#*points to emmie and jo*
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apollosgiftofprophecy · 10 months ago
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I while ago I was thinking about Reyna and her relationship with allonormativity, and these were the thoughts I dropped into the Discord server to explain my thoughts on it so far;
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Because yeah - Rick has stated he thinks Reyna is alloace, and I can why people would think that, but Reyna just reads as arospec to me instead of acespec. But the thing is, Reyna's whole deal was centered around her relationship with romance - and asexuality doesn't cover that. Aromanticism does.
I'm spitballing here but like. Let there be girls who join the Hunt but aren't necessarily opposed to romance. Reyna has never once stated she isn't interested in a relationship, but that at this point in her life, it's not on her agenda. Figuring herself out is top priority, and I love that for her <3
so yeah. Demiromantic Reyna is my heart.
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rosabell14 · 6 months ago
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The hunters of Artemis, Reyna, and Asexuality in Riordan's writing
I kinda started thinking about this since Reyna became a hunter. I could never articulate why I hated this Choice. I was asexual after all. Shouldn't I be happy about this rep? We Ace people barely get any after all. Then I realized that it's because I just didn't like the hunters as ace representation. And I didn't need to be grateful for mediocrity.
You want to know why the hunters of Artemis suck in general? And as Ace rep specifically? Because Riordan did not write them with that mindset.
Like people are so busy hailing this man as the king of representation in literature(blegh) that they forgot how heteronormative and white(sometimes racist) the original series was. Y'all really think this man was thinking about writing asexuals in the year 2007? Get real. What Riordan was doing was a white man trying to write feminism and failing (there's a reason most of his female characterization of female characters boils down to tough "not like other girls" characters who are dicks to the boys around them yet also to the girls around them if they're jealous)
Now onto the hunters.
The hunters when first presented in TTC are not a group of asexuals but rather religious celibates. Fantasy Pegan nuns if you may. The first problem arises when their ages are brought up.
"Then the archers came from the woods. They were girls, about a dozen of them. The youngest was maybe ten. The oldest, about fourteen..."
Remember, before ToA gave us Emmie and Jo, the hunters WERE all young girls. Now why in the world are they so young? Especially when in the actual myths, the hunters could come from any age whatsoever? Well the reason is a doozy.
"Are you surprised by my age?" she asked.
"Uh… a little."
"I could appear as a grown woman, or a blazing fire, or anything else I want, but this is what I prefer. This is the average age of my Hunters, and all young maidens for whom I am patron, before they go astray."
"Go astray?" I asked.
"Grow up. Become smitten with boys. Become silly, preoccupied, insecure. Forget themselves."
Hooo boy. What a way to phrase it. Going astray. Losing themselves. This kinda confirms that the reason why Artemis goes after young girls specifically is because she only wants girls who have yet to finish puberty. Girls have yet to discover their own sexuality. Now I'm not a representative of Asexuals everywhere, but I'm pretty sure most of us don't discover our sexuality at the age of ten. Let alone have the maturity to decide to become celibates about it. And let me reiterate: celibacy is not sexuality. Sure asexual people CAN choose to be celibates but it's not the same thing at all. In fact Zoe and Thalia are big cases for this. Both of them had liked men before(herakles and luke) but joined for their own reasons. Thalia to escape the prophecy and Zoe out of heartbreak. Hell, Bianca herself is mostly swayed by the idea of having no responsibility and a new family.
Now Rick does another thing that goes against the myths. The exclusion of make hunters. Artemis frequently hung around or taught male hunters who respected her. Daphnis, Scamandrius, freaking Hippolytus whom Artemis greatly cared about. Oh but we need to come up with bullshit reasons why Nico can't just join the hunt with his sisters so the hunters of Artemis are all: Ewww men. Also note how at no point does Riordan mention people who fall in love with women.
Now the next point is the oath itself. Artemis says this:
"What oath?" I said.
"To forswear romantic love forever," Artemis said. "To never grow up, never get married. To be a maiden eternally."
When I tell you that Emmy and Joe were retcons . Rick was freaking INSISTENT on the hunters being kids. Also note the three points: to never fall in love, to never get married, to stay a maiden.
I mean I think I don't need to explain why obsessing over the virginity of young girls is creepy. Does Riordan think girls older than fourteen can't keep it in their pants? And let me be adamant here Riordan only cares about the virginity Clause here. He mentions falling in love and marriage because he sees them inherently intertwined with sex.
Now onto the wording of the oath itself:
'I pledge myself to the goddess Artemis. I turn my back on the company of men, accept eternal maidenhood, and join the Hunt.'
I mean you might be able to interpret men here as mankind and therefore excluding women as well. But I have many reasons to believe that Riordan didn't even CONSIDER women as a possibility(someone inform this man that lesbians existed smh 😞). Also note that falling in love is not mentioned in the actual oath but maidenhood is.
Now onto the next big issue. Percy Jackson's Greek gods and its chapter on Artemis. It basically confirms all of my problems.
"IT’S NOT THAT ARTEMIS HATED ALL MEN, just most of them. From the moment she was born, she knew one critical fact: Guys are kinda gross."
No mention of girls. In this chapter Percy(Rick) brings up Artemis' disdain for dudes over and over again.
“Let me be a maiden forever, Father,” Artemis said, twirling her finger in Zeus’s beard. “I never want to get married.---- But you can grant me a bunch of followers: ocean nymphs, river nymphs, wood nymphs—what the heck, how about mortal girls, too? Any girls who want to join me can become my followers, as long as they remain maidens like me. They should probably make the decision when they’re about nine years old, before they get interested in boys, because after that, they’ll be all distracted and of no use to me.”
Yikes yikes yikes. Ladies and gentlemen the age has been lowered to 9. Freaking 9. Also I guess girls older than that don't need Artemis' protection then? (the real problem is that older/married girls should be out of Artemis's jurisdiction and under the protection of other gods like Hera, Hestia, and Ares. But Hestia is barely there. Hera is terrible and the Amazons also suck)
Now when I tell you that Artemis' big point was about virginity, I mean it. This actually has mythological evidence.
The myths actually DO mention what happens when female hunters fall in love. Rhodopis and Euthynicus were two hunters who offended Aphrodite by choosing a chaste life so she had Eros make them fall in love. However note that they weren't booted out of the hunters for falling in love, but rather after having sex in a cave. THAT was what Artemis took offense to.
Another myth is the story of Aura. A huntress who offended Artemis by comparing their breasts(Greek mythology am I right?). Saying that her breast were better than Artemis' because they were smaller and hey maybe that means that Artemis isn't actually a maiden. Artemis punishes her by making her lose her VIRGINITY. She goes to nemesis for revenge. Nemesis goes to Eros who makes Dionysus fall in love with Aura and when Aura refuses his advances he ties her up and... Yeah you can guess where I'm going with this.
But hey! Those myths aren't in the Greek gods book. You know which myth is? The myth of C(K)allisto. And this one angers me so much I want to chew on the drywall.
The way Riordan writes it. Zeus turns himself into Artemis, brings Kallisto's guards down with the disguise, gets close to her and then when Kallisto REJECTS Artemis' supposed advances, forces himself on her. I need to say this again. Kallisto does not fall in love, she isn't seduced, she does not break her oath. But we still need a reason for her to be yeeted out of the hunters so her lack of maidenhood it is
“You were my favorite,” Artemis said. “If you had come to me immediately, I could have helped you. I would have found you a rich, handsome husband and let you settle into a new life in the city of your choice. I would have allowed you to retire from the Hunt with honor. You could have gone in peace. Zeus’s assault was not your fault.”
Kallisto sobbed. “But I didn’t want to lose you! I wanted to stay!”
Artemis felt like her heart was breaking, but she couldn’t show it. She had rules about her followers. She couldn’t allow those rules to be broken, not even by her best friend. “Kallisto, your crime was keeping the secret from me. You dishonored me, and your sisters of the Hunt, by not being honest. You defiled our company of maidens when you were not a maiden yourself. That I cannot forgive.”
I want to slap this man so hard he flies to the opposite side of the universe. We are not here to blame victims of assault guys! Except we are! But with extra steps. If you get attacked, it's not your fault, but If you are too scared to admit the truth then you deserve to lose your only safe space and turn into a bear. Oh nooooo Kallisto DEFILED Artemis' company by being an icky non virgin. The moment you lose your virginity even if it's not your fault you get punished. But not because I'm gross but because YOU lied. How terrible! And he expects us to feel for ARTEMIS???
But rosabell! This is how things go in the myths. What was uncle Rick (bleghhhh) supposed to do? I don't know... Choose a different version of the story? There are versions were Zeus/Hera are the ones who transform Kallisto into a bear. There are versions where Kallisto actively CHOOSES to sleep with Artemis. Granted it's still assault because she's being lied to but at least then, she'd have a degree of autonomy in the events. At least Artemis could rightfully accuse her of breaking her oath. But noooo, Riordan doesn't know lesbians exist. He actively makes Zeus into a canonical Ra*ist. Why is he on the throne again?
(the fact that this book came out AFTER HoH y'all 😭)
Once again, Riordan sees maidenhood(virginity)/love/marriage as intertwined. This is NOT what being on the aroace spectrum means. You can fall in love but not have sex. You can have sex but not fall in love. You can have sex AND still be an asexual. You can be married and still be a "maiden". Riordan doesn't get to claim to be such a progressive ally for retconning the hunters in 2017, TEN years after he first introduced the hunters because he suddenly remembered that lesbians exist.
Or more like because he doesn't know what to do with his female characters. The hunters more than anything are Riordan's heroine dumping ground. If you don't want it put them in relationships, either kill them(Bianca whose main purpose is to die) or make them eternal virgins(the hunters, Rachel). The fact that some people genuinely think that Calypso should have joined the hunters astound me. Girl suffered for years because of the gods and you all think that the best thing outside of Leo for her(not that I like Caleo) is to become a servant to the gods? Because you can't perceive a female character doing anything else if she's not in a relationship. Like with Thalia, this at least made sense on a strategic level because she didn't want to reach sixteen. Oh but we also don't know what else to do with her so she needs to want to be a hunter after the war is over so we give her a half-assed argument with Luke and now she can be all: wah wah Zoe you were totally right about boys. And the cherry on the cake is that she doesn't even get to be in the final confrontation with Luke or say goodbye to him because of a freaking STATUE. And after pjo her personality becomes Zoe 2.0 and her and Jason get ONE measly meeting.
When I first spoke of not liking Renya joining the hunters this is what I mean. Riordan had so many options with Reyna. Why did she have to leave her esteemed position which she worked so hard for? Two boys rejected her? Why couldn't she go reconnect with her sister more then? She could have joined the Amazons. But nooo Riordan was so allergic to the fans asking him wether she could be Bi or a lesbian. For the stupidest reasons too? Oh Reyna being a lesbian would come off as stereotypical because she got rejected by two guys beforehand! My dude, do you think people don't say the same thing about us who are on the aroace spectrum? That we say we are aro/ace because we got rejected before? Come up with a better excuse next time.
My brother in Christ couldn't even allow Reyna to talk about her sexuality and whatnot. It couldn't even be fully about her. No. He had to turn Reyna into his own mouthpiece admonishing the EVILLLL fans who may have shipped Thalia and Renya. He literally had her say the word "shipping". How cringe can you get? And then he had the audacity to admonish the fans by saying: Why does a strong friendship always have to progress to romance?
It's a sentiment I agree with but coming from this man, it's extremely hypocritical? I don't know Richard maybe because YOU are obsessed with shipping? No character can escape your shipping hands unless they're eternal virgins or dead. You literally turned the Argo2 into Noah's ark2. So much attention focused on shipping that the seven barely felt like friends.
Why does Reyna need to join the hunters? She can choose to not relationship without having to become a servant to female Peter pan.
This is actually a really adequate metaphor when you consider that Emmie and Jo say that they have not met Artemis in YEARS and Apollo mentions that the two of them were lucky she let them LIVE. god can you imagine joining Artemis when you are 9? At an age when you have still not finished maturimg cognitively and therefore shouldn't be trusted on taking a freaking celibacy vow(were you even given the talk yet that age) and after 70 years you decide you want to leave? If you're lucky Artemis will part with you on good terms but SIKES every person you probably knew before joining is now dead. Where is THAT angsty Bianca fic?
Speaking of Bianca. How she was handled also angers me. In another post, I've already talked about how the hunters barely gave her adequate information before letting her join.
How Zoe was the main reason for her death. Zoe KNEW that at least 2 people might die in the quest she was given and yet she decided to bring the least experienced girl to the quest and couldn't even watch her properly.
But you know what else pisses me off? The fact that THEY should have been the one to tell Nico about his sister's death. I've always hated how Chiron made Percy the CHILD tell Nico the other CHILD about his sister dying. But more than anyone, it should have been the hunters' responsibility. Bianca was THEIR responsibility. She died in a quest to save Artemis. The least they could do was tell her remaining family of her fate. The Doylist reason of course is that we need to kickstart Nico and Percy's complicated relationship and have Percy discover that Nico is a son of Hades. But in universe, the fact that they immediately fuck off from the camp upon regrouping makes them come off as extremely selfish. We don't even know if Bianca was given a funeral by them or not. We see Artemis being upset about Zoe but we never see her react to the news of losing Bianca.
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bomber-grl · 3 months ago
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Hugging Leo
Pairing(s): Leo Valdez x Gn!Reader
Req ~ Hello!! Can I request a Leo Valdez x reader where Leo really likes readers hugs and just melts into them
A/n: I added some extra
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You two met, fell in love and got together
Someway, somehow, Leo had not given you an actual hug
Like you two would joke, lean on each other, you’ve even kissed idk how many times
But the hugs you’ve shared only ever lasted for like a second
Then, one day you just decide to hug him
It was random and out of nowhere, not that it mattered
This was the first time that the itch Leo had for physical affection was finally scratched
He doesn’t remember how long you two stood there, just embracing, but he does remember how much he loved the hug
He practically melted, molding to fit in your arms perfectly
This doesn’t go unnoticed either
He teases and makes jokes, but you can tell he really looks forward to any affection you give him, especially these hugs of yours
So give them to him, we all know how desperately blud needs them
Eventually it becomes a daily occurrence
So much so that Leo becomes absolutely and utterly shameless
Always going to see you (whether you’re at camp, the Waystation, your house, etc) just to receive some affection
(The distance won’t be too long since you’re inseparable)
Others begin noticing and your friends at camp, Emmie and Jo, even Festus 😭 begin to tease him
I mean Jo was one of the people that Leo talked to about you (mainly for advice) so it was inevitable
Aside from just liking them, Leo feels absolutely safe when you hug him
He’s barely been introduced to the demigod lifestyle (in comparison to you probably)
So being able to relax is a limited luxury
There was always this or that, and if it wasn’t, it was something entirely else
Even before he met Piper and Jason, went to camp half blood and built the Argo-
He was couch surfing for a good while (can only be described that way since he was hardly ever at his foster homes) no security whatsoever and had no idea what tomorrow would be like
Especially when he’d sleep under the Houston bridge
At least now when you hold him he allows himself to be himself than just joking all the time as a way to cope
Plus, you really just make him feel like he isn’t the “7th wheel”
Honestly a firm believer that you hugging him would cure all his problems
Which is why he always goes to you when he’s had a bad day
Maybe it was when you guys visit camp and he has to wait to see you, or after school when you guys have no classes together and he’s just exhausted
Even without an excuse he’ll still look for you.
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Today a friend and fellow camper had gotten harmed while you two practiced (truly a story for another time) and so you had to accompany her to the infirmary. Not just because you cared, but was also just worried overall.
Leo must’ve heard from a Dionysus kid through the grapevine because one moment you’re by your friends side as Will is treating her and the next Leo is at your side.
At first he’s apprehensive and skims his eyes over you from head to toe, once he sees that you’re not hurt he sighs and starts sulking.
Just a playful and weirdly funny habit he’s learned (?)
“I thought you were hurt when I heard that you had come to the infirmary” honestly a pretty valid assessment.
“Awww” you’re babying him, just to tease his previous behavior “I’m sorry I worried you”
You went in and gave him a wholehearted hug, just to emphasize your point you began soothing the back of his head.
And to add some theatrics, you began swaying him back and forth.
Usually Leo loved to be affectionate and open back, but seeing as he got caught in his arguably cringe response, well…
Leos face immediately flushed and despite it, he still hugged you back, melting into your arms.
He didn’t argue, didn’t say anything really. Maybe he just wanted to get rid of the humiliation he felt.
Sometimes he just gets a bit shy at the affection is all
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So sorry it was short, i literally could not rack my brain for the life of me
Also, The friend watching: 🧍
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ottpopfic · 1 month ago
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He can't do this, and now he's wrecked everything here too, Leo turns on his heel and books it out of the house.
“Leo! Where are you going?!” Piper calls after him as the screen door slams, but it doesn't matter.
He just runs, and keeps running, just mindless sprinting as fast and as far as he can go. He's going to keep going, just like always, until he collapses in a new place with a new start like all the times before. Or he would if he didn't hear Piper call after him
“Leo Stop!”
Its charms speak, magic the only thing able to push past the need to get the fuck out of there. His legs lock mid-stride, momentum overbalancing him as he careens ass over tea kettle into the dead cattails. He still feels the need to run, the need to go, but he can't move his limbs with the spell on him. He ends up just laying on his back, looking up at the gray winter sky and screaming himself raw into the empty air
“Jesus Christ” Piper pants when she finally catches up to him, hands on her knees as she sucks wind “How are you so fast with those short little legs”
“Fuck you” he yells back trying to kick to no avail “Let me go!”
“Are you gonna run if I do?”
“You don't need me here” he continues to yell, but he's sounding more choked then he would ever admit “I'm just making everything worse like always, let me go!”
���Of course I don't need you dumb ass, but I sure as shit want you, get back in the goddamn house”
“You can't make me” he screams like a tantruming child
“Yes I fucking can!” Piper yells back, one hand still on her knee as she continues to try and catch her breath, the other pointing back the way they came “Get Back In The House!”
Leo goes, she can make him after all
“Never run off on me like that again” Piper berates him once they are both back inside, shoving him down onto the couch “you didn't even grab a coat!”
“A coat!?” he shouts hackles raised “That's all you care about?”
“Shut the fuck up” she scolds, finger in his face “Stop being an asshole I know what you're doing”
“What!? What am I doing?”
“You're trying to pick a fight to make me push you away” she reprimands “It's not gonna work dickhead all you are doing is scaring the shit out of me!”
“Exactly” he cries, half needing the fight, half wanting to curl up in a corner and die “I'm just making everything worse, I brought the shit here with me, I need to go!”
“No” Piper cuts him off “No shut up, I'm done doing this we’re watching Moana”
“What?!”
Piper beelines for the remote “SHUT UP WE’RE WATCHING MOANA”
They watch Moana, it's as good as the last three times Leo has seen it, one of the ones Georgie always requests for movie night. At the Way Station they have an old but reliable projector that's been tinkered into near sentience, casting its light on the wall that holds the building's liminal space. It makes Leo a little homesick, too bad he can never go back
They end up with Leo curled up against one arm of the couch with Piper laid out across the rest, her head on Leo’s shoulder and her arms around his waist like she's trying to hold him down. It's nice, to be held, it feels like a long time since he's been held. Even when he and Cal cuddled, alone or during the movie nights, it was always Leo doing the holding. And it felt stiff, awkward. He would get hugs from Georgie and Jo and Emmi, but they never held him, he never let them
“I lied” Piper murmurs eventually into the still
“Hmm?”
“Earlier when I said I didn't need you,” she confesses, eyes on the singing crab “I lied. I do need you”
Leo heaves a huge sigh and rests his head on top of hers, wrapping an arm around her shoulders to hold her back “I need you too Beauty Queen”
They watch Ponyo next, and then Thumbelina, and then somewhere in the middle of The Princess Bride Mr. McClean comes home. Leo gets roped into helping with dinner, it feels good to do something with his hands, he's starting to feel the prickling in his fingers as his creation calls to him asking to be finished. He pointedly ignores the feeling
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onceuponagalaxyfarfaraway · 3 months ago
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yall, valgrace kid fics are lacking but i need them to live because theyre adorable so at this point I'm writing them myselves
give me grown up jason and leo who have changed and matured but still love to tease each other and now there are mini-thems running around because they love each other so much and feel so safe with each other that they're going to do the only thing scarier than fighting monsters: raising kids when their parents wouldn't or couldn't be a part of their childhoods 🥺🥺🥺
ALSO emmie and jo as grandparents and auntie piper is a NEED 😤😤😤
and yes I wrote this it is located here:
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poppitron360 · 2 months ago
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Hello :)
What is in your opinion a) the best Sapphic ship and b) what are your headcanons for them?
This has been in my ask box since may, and it’s been on my mind for a while.
So sorry I took ages to answer, I was waiting to finish the series so that I’d have all the relevant info (I’d heard Thalia x Reyna is a thing and I wanted to see for myself) don’t worry I HAVEN’T FORGOTTEN ABOUT YOU-
Also, Life has gotten pretty badly in the way of things lately.
Tbh I haven’t really seen/paid attention to the sapphic ships in PJO.
Currently, drafting this before BoO, I’d say it’s probably Ruegard (Selena x Clarisse). While I very much think Beckendorf and Selena were in love, you can’t have two same-sex characters parallel Patroclus and Achilles and NOT have them be queer-coded (Unless Rick genuinely believed that Patrochillies really were just platonic besties, which is objectively false and factually incorrect and gay erasure honestly Rick).
I think Dying For Each Other IS queer culture (Valgrace for LIFEEEE).
While I swear by Aro/Ace Reyna and will die on this hill, the ships she’s paired with are cute dynamics.
- Theyna is badass. It gives similar vibes to Buffy x Faith from Buffy the Vampire Slayer (easily one of the non-canon sapphic ships of all time) I just love how when they first met Thalia kidnapped Reyna and Reyna hit her with a chair. I just see that and think “couple goals”.
- @demigod-shenanigans has forced me to think about Pipeyna and honestly yeah they would be really cute. Particularly their dynamic paired with Valgrace. I love Reyna and Jason’s friendship and I love her relationship with Leo.
- Reynabeth (is that a ship? It should be). Daughter of War Goddess x Daughter of War Goddess SUPREME!!!!
But also, we need more aro/ace rep in media. I heart my aro/ace siblings.
Pipabeth is also some of the most sapphic shit I’ve ever seen. I think it’s just RR not really knowing how female friendships work (or maybe it’s me never really having the kinda touchy-feely female friendship I see on TV all the time, and so being unable to comprehend that kind of platonic compassion, but I’m not gonna unpack that here) but you can’t tell me these aren’t two cottagecore lesbians collecting mushrooms and building a fence and shit that cottagecore lesbians do.
Also shoutout to Rachabeth and basically any sapphic Annabeth ship. She is bi in my mind.
Shelper is underdeveloped. There is so much potential in a mortal x demigod relationship that was explored a little bit with Perrachel but never fully. I need to write a fic about them at some point.
I was writing something earlier and ended up maybe starting a Nyssa x Lavinia ship (hardened grunge Lesbian x bubblegum Lesbian)
But my favourite???
EMMIE AND JO!!!
We NEVER get sapphic romances for old people. I NEED a spinoff about them. I mean, you’ve got the forbidden romance from being in the Hunters of Artemis turned marriage (Idk if they’re canonically married or not but they are in my mind) and you’ve got them being badass fighters and you’ve got them being moms to Leo and Georgina and basically everyone at the waystation. It seems like “giving up immortality for each other” is Rick’s standard for “true love” and Emmie and Jo did exactly that. I love them sm.
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necromancer-at-abattoir · 6 days ago
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HOW RICK PORTRAYS ARTEMIS
Now, before I start on the nasty pile of shit that is Rick Riordan written PJO Artemis (NOT the real one, NEVER the real one) let me give you some links to posts talking about her portrayal in PJO which you should most certainly read.
You should most certainly read these posts-they talk about the subject of this post magnificently. Especially the first one.
THE HUNT OF ARTEMIS IS TERRIBLE AROACE REP
Rick makes her and her hunt aroace and depicts them as radical feminist misandrists.
This is misogynistic and aphobic, as it makes the narrative and by extension the readers think that hey, aroace women actually hate all men, which is not the case for every one of them!
Also, Rick writes Artemis as usually liking to appear as a young girl and never assumes a form older than twenty. And she always appears as a child in PJO. Never any other age. Also, the Hunters are apparently literal CHILDREN who are called immature and misandrist while also being aroace.......hmmmmmm.........aphobic much?
Yeah, do you see how aphobic this is?
People usually view aroace people as childlike and immature due to the fact that they don't want to have sex or romance when they can be just as mature or even more mature than non aroace people.
Also, the two hunters who've left the hunt, Emmie and Jo, are 'growing out of it'. Also, they fall in love and aren't as 'childish' anymore. This implies that aroace people are just 'late bloomers' and 'oh, you'll grow out of it!'
Which is not the case. It's never the case. They never 'grow out of it' because they don't feel attracted to it, and there's nothing wrong with that.
Romance and sex do not determine an adult's maturity. And they sure as hell don't determine Artemis' sexuality.
Also, Artemis kicks wlw hunters out-lesbians being kicked out of a safe space for women just for romantically liking women, does anybody hear this?-and calls romance a plague.
What the hell? Aroace people don't always think like this. And sex and romance are to different things. It's possible to be an asexual lesbian too.
This is lesbophobia, which is awful, because men are often violent towards queer women, so this could have been a good form of rep for queer women-queer female solidarity.
Now, I'm aware that Rick is allowed to portray Artemis as aroace. I'm simply pointing out the aphobic and misogynistic tropes that he fell into.
This isn't the only virgin goddess that Rick has turned into a child. Rick also turned Hestia, a former Olympian in PJO, into a child for no reason, most likely because she is also a willing virgin goddess. This is also extremely aphobic and unnecessary.
Artemis usually appears as a young woman in her statues and paintings. If Rick really wanted to make her young, he could've had her be in her late teens or early twenties. There was no reason to make her look like a child.
Also, the major huntresses of Artemis that we know of-Thalia, Bianca and Zoe-joined because they were traumatised from their past.
Thalia because Luke 'betrayed' her, Bianca because she thought she had to take care of Nico, and Zoe because Hercules also betrayed her. They're all traumatised and are frozen to become eternal children. And Reyna is also heavily traumatised.
Do you see this shit, my liege? This implies that all the aroace people are traumatised and that's why they suddenly become aroace and join the Hunt. Absolute nonsense.
Also, not all Hunters of Artemis are aroace. Taking a vow of virginity is not equal to aroace. I get that you want to have your representation, which is fair, but you need to know this.
PJO ARTEMIS IS CREEPY AND PREDATORY
So, we know from the Titan's Curse that Rick Riordan written PJO Artemis recruits girls between 10 and 14 into her hunt.
She says that girls that are older than 14 usually 'go astray' and 'leave their senses, running after boys all day'.
She makes her huntresses take oaths of virginity and celibacy. Why would anyone make a child take a virginity and celibacy oath?
She recruits girls who are too young to know if they want to date or have sex or grow up and pursue something else instead of just hunting all day.
She calls romance a plague and kicks out all lovers from her Hunt, be it mlm or wlw, which is terrible, because she was a sapphic icon back in the day.
And she promises young girls nice things and twists her word, not actually telling them about the bad things of the Hunt until they're actually in and can't get out again.
Do you know how terrible this is? And how terrible it is for the real Artemis and her worshippers?
This is very predatory-and extremely OOC for Real Artemis. She's the protector of girls-she doesn't take them on monster hunts.
REAL Artemis is the protector of children, especially young girls-she would not freeze them biologically forever and pull them out of their lives and take them on monster hunts, thus harming them and endangering them. She would take young girls into hunt, but she would educate them and train them to defend themselves and only take them on monsters hunts when they were fully mature, consenting adults.
Let me fill you in on info about the REAL Artemis' hunt-
If Real Artemis accepted girls into the hunt, they would age normally, and they weren't immortal. And she wouldn't make them hunt monsters. They'd hang around at camp, dance, sing, pick flowers and worship Artemis, like the original nymphs in the myths, who, by the way, were adults.
Also, Real Artemis' huntresses didn't always stay with her. They stayed for some time and left-actually, being a companion of Artemis was a popular title for heroines of Greek Myths, like Anticlea, mother of Odysseus, who hunted with Artemis when she (Anticlea) was young or Beroe, who was also a hunter before becoming a lover of Poseidon or marrying him.
Real Artemis' followers must be virgins or they cannot join her, but they are free to leave, and after that, they may lose their virginity.
Real Artemis' followers are not immediately granted immortality-they must earn it. Artemis grants Britomartis immortality after the latter jumps off a cliff fleeing from King Minos. In some versions, she turned Iphigenia into a goddess as she was sacrificed for Artemis.
And I get that it was a fun concept for Rick to make Artemis' hunt an immortal sisterhood band-and I'm not saying that it's a bad concept.
I'm just saying that the concept was horribly executed. It's absolutely horrible that the girls are frozen forever in time and never get to grow up and be more mature and educated. It would also help their muscle mass and strength, effectively making them better hunters. I've made another post about this.
And Rick also makes Artemis not interact with men because.......her first few interactions with men failed?
This is hilariously terrible. Oh no, Artemis doesn't like men because apparently a few of them failed her and her interactions with them went terribly wrong, so no men now!
And also, she kicks lesbians out of her hunt.
Read this post. It'll detail all the bad things about my last sentence, and in the meantime-
This is terrible, because Real Artemis was heavily associated with lesbianism back in Ancient Greece or before that. Also, Rick's hunt was supposed to be a safe space for girls. So many little lesbians thought that they'd been seen-only to have Rick throw this back into their face. And you know what's even more horrible? He could've made the hunters ace lesbians, because yeah, you can romantically love women and not want to have sex, it's entirely possible.
PJO Artemis is ultimately 'redeemed' by helping Percy and his friends and voting against his death, but her portrayal in such a popular books series will be an eternal tragedy.
And I've heard some people say that he turned Artemis into a radical feminist because it was popular at the time, and let me tell you-
You don't get to do that. You don't get to use a culturally, religiously and ethically sacred goddess as your experimenting ground for humour and modernity mixed with magic.
You don't just get to ignore all the myths and then reduce a sacred belief and way of life to something so horrible as what Artemis' hunt was in PJO-predatory, creepy, cult-like and abusive.
It isolated girls from the outside world and fed them one source of information.
It tricked them into joining by lying to them, promising them happiness, not telling them about the bad things, and then it did not let them leave when they wanted to, making them regret it eternally.
So many people actually worship this goddess-imagine how horrible they feel about this portrayal.
@fandomloverangel
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lorezhaze · 5 months ago
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🩸⚔️ Roleplay Partner Search! ⚔️🩸
🌟 Introduction -
Lo | 23 | He/They EST time zone.
Very minimal triggers and limitations
Preferably 21+ writers, only 18+ characters
mxm, nbxm or nbxnb
3rd person literate writing, at least a paragraphs length
Discord only
I love world building and knowing the other character’s feelings. I also love getting to know my rp partners and becoming friends of sorts. I'm also a sucker for creating playlists and Pinterest boards.
NSFW scenes and/or undertones/themes at some point. I do like smut, especially paired with angst and certain dynamics, but if that isn’t your thing and our writing styles are otherwise compatible we can always keep it limited or fade to black. 🤍
CW(!): From here down, my plots or OC’s backgrounds may contain triggering content, I try to remain vague and non-descriptive given these are just outlines!
🌟 Plots I’m willing to explore -
Reese Willow is a fledgling vampire who is sent on a mission by his sire to target and take down an infamous vampire hunter's son, only for the plane Reese was following him on to crash land. After a handful of months, only Reese and the other man are the only survivors remaining, until it's just Reese. For the next 29 years Reese remains stranded, walking along the wilderness in a daily routine like a ghost, until another vampire finally picks up his weak delusional voice amongst the many and seeks him out.
Forbidden love, childhood friends who become estranged because of (Daniel)’s strict parents and eventually moving away to the other side of the country, then when (Daniel) comes back for college under his father's supervision (despite being over 18 now) and the two former friends are completely different from each other now (Daniel) for his public image by default just goes with the other popular wealthy students while the former childhood friend is more down to earth and nerdy and their groups/cliches clash to the point where (Daniel) is sort of a bully this friend as this 'tough guy' front. A short lived (private/behind the scenes, kinda toxic and probably on and off again) ‘situationship’ takes place in that time until the 4 year degree is finished (but Daniel transfers out half a year early) and a handful more years later (Daniel) has settled down in that old town again, slowly starting to get his life together and take responsibility for being a dad now himself but he also cant stop thinking about the childhood friend/lover.
The only son of a wealthy family clashes with their parents every chance he gets, rebels, tries his best to be untraditional and overall just piss them off hires an unconventional sex worker named Emmy an obscene amount of money to come home with him for the weekend and pretend to be his significant other and/or fiance. Feelings develop and it becomes really complicated when his father eventually like offers him an opportunity that is nearly impossible to turn down and he has the choice to either leave them behind with nothing to the life that was nearly killing them or give up his own cushy lifestyle and let love prevail. Alternatively, a older man who thinks he’s straight, has a successful career, empty marriage and multiple kids ends up falling in love with a slightly younger intersex and narcoleptic sex worker, the first and only sex worker he hires.
Post-apocalyptic setting, Celeste the final survivor of a run down camp continues to live among the undead of their loved ones. Another survivor from a nearby camp stumbles upon the ruins of the previous camp while scavenging and sees someone alive on the other side of the fence, living with the dead as if they were dead as well. Day by day they come back, bringing their new things, trying to bring some life back into them again.
Damon is a serial killer that moves around city to city state to state every year to kill another local predator in hopes that one day he'll manage to take down the number of men (whose faces he can't remember) who abused him, using his job as a criminal data analyst to not only cover up his killings but also look for new targets that may have missed the sex offender registry or dodged conviction despite solid proof against them. This time when he moves to a new city and gets settled in he finds that somebody else had already gotten to his potential target, not only that, this didn't seem to be the first killing like this in the area. But this time the perpetrator left a tiny piece of evidence that everyone else but Damon noticed, and instead of turning it in to help solve the case he keeps it to himself with peaked interest.
16th - 19th century setting ✨
Enemies to lovers, a member of the royal family ends up falling for a knight that saves their life, unfortunately, this knight just happens to be the royal’s childhood enemy.   The youngest son of a royal is 7th in line for the throne and has health issues, thus has no chance of inheriting the throne. in attempts to grasp onto any bit of power his father has, the royal marries off his frail and feminine son as a wife to a prince of another territory, an upcoming heir of a throne (loosely inspired by sporus and nero).
The King allowed his son (Lucien) to be abused by his painting instructor growing up, all this rage builds up and explodes when Lucien tries to convict his instructor, but the King instead pardons the boy’s abuser during a set of public trials outside the castle. Lucien, a teenager and young Prince at the time, kills his father in front of everyone, unintentionally becoming King himself from then on. Despite exiling his abuser after the bloody trial, the then Prince, now King is seen as cruel and scary, not to be crossed even nearly ten years later. Meanwhile, a citizen with a sick sister is caught stealing medicine. Being on trial with King Lucien is scary enough, but medicine thieves in particular are known to be punished heavily, since the Princess, who is one of the only people thats kind to the prince-now-king, makes a majority of the medicine available. During a public trial, the thieve’s mother pleads for his life and Lucien realizes that the thief is someone he knew, that he had recognized those fearful eyes from somewhere else. He was amongst the crowd when he killed his own father. He spares the thief, and allows the best doctors to treat his ill sister. As long as he works directly for him in the castle until his debt is repaid. 
It is tradition for the royal family to keep their children within the gates of the castle and away from the public eye until they are grown enough to handle it. The Princess was introduced to society at the age of 13, but every year the reveal of their younger and troubled son (Lucien) his delayed for various vague reasons. Everyone is both eager and suspicious, which doesn’t help matters. This is when the royal parents essentially give up when the boy turns 21, allowing him out with no announcement to the public. While practically frolicking through the flowery fields, enjoying the feeling of the grass and the new sights, he has a love-at-first-sight moment with another boy (your character). This is just an ordinary boy from a hard working family, and since the Prince was never revealed, he has no idea the boy he’s immediately smitten with is the Prince everyone is eagerly awaiting to meet. That is until he finds out, obviously.
(Movie theme) The Hunger Games, two people from opposite teams. Queer themes; gay men, trans person called upon as their assigned gender at birth. Exploring the earlier hunger games (11-50th), escaping and/or faking deaths, etc.
(Movie theme) Ego: Character A gets hurt and temporarily loses their vision. While their wealthy parents look for a medical solution, they have them live in the guest house and hire a caregiver, character B, to stop by everyday and take care of them. Naturally, character a and the caregiver get close, but there’s a big problem: character A is a superficial, seemingly shallow and straight. As a result, character B feels pressured to lie about their identity and what they look like when character A tries to guess what they are like. 
Advanced AI recently developed, now available to the public for purchase in the last 5 years. Man born into generational wealth has no interest in marriage anytime soon despite being good looking, smart and successful. Despite being happy with this life, his house is beyond messy with books haphazardly stacked everywhere and take out containers everywhere. Somebody in his life decides to take it upon themselves to purchase him an android, to which the first time in his life he starts growing feelings for somebody.. something? As if it wasn't confusing enough, did the android have feelings for him as well? (Inspired by Detroit: Become Human)
Stalker falls in love with someone, all falls apart when things go too well and their obsession crosses paths with them and they eventually go out, but break up. stalker is determined to watch over their lover while also keeping others away from them until they “come to their senses” on their own time.
I’m more than willing to hear out any of your plots/ideas as well! ✨
🌟 OCs -
Bios/docs linked to each character, each doc includes a linked Pinterest board, some also include Spotify playlists.
Lucien - Usually aged between 21-23 yrs old, cisgender male (bisexual, switch/sub-leaning). Medieval prince, alternate versions of character for different plots.
Reese Willow - Vampire stranded in the Canadian wilderness for nearly 30 years after a plane crash he ended up inevitably being the sole survivor of.
Emrys - 23 yrs old, cisgender gnc man (doesn't mind any pronouns but still identifies as a man, doesn't take gender too serious, bisexual, switch/sub-leaning). Oldest sibling of a chaotic troubled family, natural caretaker, feminine man with motherly qualities. Works in assistive care.
Deana - 31 yrs old, cisgender man (bicurious, switch/dom-leaning). (Bruce Wayne/Batman inspired) Only child of a wealthy well-known family turned orphan at a young age now upholds his family's public image and business affairs while in private he works as a hitman for hire.
Celeste - 27 yrs old, gender-fluid (Intersex, queer). Final survivor of a run down camp continues to live among the undead of their loved ones.
Emmy - 22 yrs old, nonbinary/intersex (AMAB, all pronouns, queer, switch/sub-leaning. Sex worker, narcoleptic insomniac estranged from wealthy adopted family, taken away from single immigrant mother when they were young.
Daniel Laurie - 26 yrs old, cisgender man (bicurious, dominant yet flexible). Recovering addict and childhood abuse survivor trying to make it back in his home town (after being gone for a handful of years) while longing after his childhood love affair.
Damon - 24 yrs old, cisgender man (bisexual, switch). Crime DNA analyst/serial killer, CSA abuse survivor. Originally written to have a power/ability where he can feel and somewhat influence nearby people's emotions, this in turn leaves his emotions open to others, meaning nearby people can sense his emotions even if they don't know why they're feeling them.
Del  - 23 yrs old, cisgender man (bisexual, switch). Custom outlawed species character called a bloodluster (similar to vampires), after his biological father got captured/taken away his mother fled to another state where she met his 'adoptive' father and shortly after found out she had been pregnant when she left. Not long after he was born, his mother died and a good portion of his life was spent raised being experimented on in a lab. Until one day he found an opening, and ate his mad scientist of an adoptive father. Now he's off in the world, trying to get by as a normal person despite his "condition" without killing anybody.
Lena - 26 years old, nonbinary (AFAB, they/she, bisexual, switch/dom-leaning) Obsessive stalker from a broken family.
Folder of all character bios (some incomplete): [link]
Fandoms/Ships I’m willing to explore: 
(Bolded characters are those I’m willing to write as)
IWTV
- Louis x Lestat
OFMD
- Izzy/Blackbeard
- Izzy/Blackbeard/Stede
- Izzy/Lucius
- Jim/Lucius
HANNIBAL
- Will/Hannibal 
MR ROBOT
- Tyrell/Elliot
Candy Shop AU No 5/9 hacks or fsociety, Tyrell runs a Swedish sweets/candy store that lately Elliot frequently visits for the same fix of cherry hard candies, and to steal glances at the good-looking store clerk. After talking it out in therapy, Elliot’s therapist, Krista, convinces him to be honest about how he feels.
Post-Apocalypse AU After the world goes to shit whatever left of New York that wasn’t completely ruin down by the undead is primarily taken over by a few different groups. When Elliot’s group becomes completely run down with major fatalities, Tyrell’s group (which he happens to lead) decides to lend a hand to an old friend. Little does Tyrell know Elliot was injured in the attack, and little does Elliot know the infection is less straight forward than they anticipated. 
UNTIL DAWN
- Josh/Chris
- Josh/Mike (Post-prank, twins live AU) Josh is the openly gay friend in the group, Mike becomes curious after walking in on Josh hooking up with someone at a party and later can’t get it out of his head.
Other beloved honorable mentions include: Batman (riddlebat, batjokes), Killing Eve, Sally Face, Yellowjackets, The Wilds, Scream (Billy/Stu), Sherlock, Life is Strange (Nathan and Warren) and sometimes Harry Potter (Drarry).
Discord only, please reach out to me if you're interested!
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via-rant · 11 months ago
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Leo stood in front of his burnt house in despair. He spent months building it and now it's in complete ashes. There was nothing left - he checked - because of the stupid Chimera attack. He could try to rebuild it but that would take more time, more energy on a house he's wanted since forever. Another few years collecting the money for the same materials as before to rebuild it. Another few years... Hasn't he waited enough? Hasn't he worked hard enough?
Isn't it obvious? Haven't you learned by now? You'll never be enough. Everything and everyone you love will always leave. He sobbed, not bothering to stop himself. It felt pointless to try again. He worked so hard for nothing. Everything he does always amounts to nothing if he's not sacrificing himself. It only works if it's for someone else.
He fell to his knees crying into his hands. He thought of telling someone but remembered he had no one. He ran away after everything. Calypso broke up with him, Jason was dead, everyone else ignored him completely or didn't know how to handle him. He wanted to start a new life. He knew he was better off alone, that Nemesis was right. He was alone and he always will be. No matter how much he missed Piper. And Hazel. And Frank and Nico and Annabeth and Percy and Reyna and Jo and Emmi... But reminded himself of what Nemesis said every time he feels that way.
When he stopped crying the moon was out and, remembering his bed was gone, just fell asleep right there.
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"Leo?" Thalia asked and the boy groaned.
"Oh my Gods, it is you!" She yelled and he sat up rubbing his eyes. When his vision cleared he groaned again, this time in exasperation. Of course.
"What the hell?! Where have you been?! We've been looking everywhere for you!" She yelled pointing and accusatory finger at him. He just pushed it away and glared.
"Obviously not, since it took you this long to find me." He said and she scoffed. "Gods, I forgot how selfish you were. You run off without telling anyone, and when we find you your only thinking about your dam self!"
"Maybe I'm not and you only think that because you're mad at me. For some reason, I don't know why you even care. Piper, Hazel, Nico, and the rest understandable, but you? We were never close."
"Doesn't mean I don't care." Leo laughed out loud.
"Yeah, right. I was weird back then, your attitude back then was understandable, I don't care if you like me or not." Thalia sighed her expression softening.
"Leo, if anyone understands being a runaway, it's me. Whether you ran away because you were scared, or because you felt alone, or thought you didn't belong there, we looked because we care. Even if you don't believe it." Leo sat there pondering her words. Then he glared.
"CPS says the same thing. 'We wanna help' and they never do." He said. He took a breath. "You shouldn't be worried. I'm fine. I'm an adult, I can take care of myself."
"You're 19."
"Legally, an adult. I have a job, looking for a house-"
"Yeah, sleeping on grass by a giant pile of ash is totally normal for a house."
"I'm not trying to convince you to come back. I joined The Huntress' for a reason, but just... visit? Piper really misses you."
"And as soon as she sees me again, I'm dead."
Thalia snickered. "Probably." Leo smiled at the thought.
"Just... think about it? At least?" She asked and he didn't answer before she left. He looked back at the pile of ash that was his house and sighed.
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ryuusei-niu · 3 months ago
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It would be so funny if Leo and Calypso stay on the way station, feel like Jo and Emmie are their mothers and at some point they break up and become like something similar to siblings. It would be the norteño experience for rule ever. And of course Lit and Georgie would make fun of them for the rest of their life.
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apollosgiftofprophecy · 1 year ago
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RRVerse Fandom, Please Hear Me Out...
Message to the wider Riordanverse fandom:
Please correctly tag your fanfics with the correct fandom tags.
I am getting tired of seeing non-Apollo fics cluttering up the Trials of Apollo tag (such as Percy/Annabeth. like. what. they're barely in ToA. why are they there.). If your fanfic does not deal with Apollo, Meg McCaffrey, or the story of ToA or the consequences of it, please do not tag it as such.
I have seen fics tagged as ToA and not even have the MC, Apollo, tagged as part of the cast. So please. I am begging you. Please stop. You have the Percy Jackson & the Olympians - All Media Types, Percy Jackson and the Olympians, AND The Heroes of Olympus tags.
Solangelo writers, you now have the Sun and the Star tag, as well as the All Media Types one. Unless it happens during or alongside something to do with Apollo & his story, please refrain from tagging it as ToA.
And no. I do not think just being Solangelo should qualify all Solangelo fics to be tagged as ToA. If anything, they should be The Sun and The Star tag or even The Heroes of Olympus tag because that's when it all began! However, if, say, it's during The Hidden Oracle or takes place in the ToA timeframe then sure! ToA tag it!
But if it's just like an AU or something that only focuses on Solangelo? Then please don't. It's not ToA then.
This is what the ToA tag looks like btw:
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I know, Nico, Will, and Percy are all popular characters, but COME ON. This is Apollo's tag, please give him this! It's so hard to find fics I want to read because it's so cluttered! Apollo's not even in the top three most-tagged characters in his own fandom tag.😒
And look at the gap between the number of fics Apollo's in compared to Percy! A 354 gap! And there's 1,616 gap between Apollo and Nico! And I can say with certainty that not all of those fics Percy - and even Nico and Will - are in are related to ToA.
Meg McCaffrey, the second MC of the series, is not even on the board. And she's a very close second MC.
And trust me. I know a bunch of these fics have nothing to do with ToA. I have scoured the tag many times and have figured that out.
So please, please, please leave The Trials of Apollo tag be unless you are writing for The Trials of Apollo. We are our own fandom and frankly, it's getting annoying having to shuffle through a bunch of fics that have nothing to do with ToA just to find ones we want to read.
Fic authors, it would be such a big help if you could remove the ToA tag from your fic if it doesn't have anything to do with ToA. I know you want your fic to be seen, and use a bunch of tags to do so, but this really inconveniences the ToA fans who just want to read about our favorite loser god and his gremlin adopted sister. ☹️
Sincerely,
A ToA fan who just wants to read fics about her favorite character but can hardly wade through the fics even with the filtering system.
Thank you. It needed to be said.
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lockandkeycake · 11 months ago
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Reyna is visiting the Waystation, and apart from some awkwardness between Leo and Calypso still, everything is going well. They all feel like a strange second family to her, in a different way than the Legion had.
So that's why it bugs her when after dinner she notices Leo flinch out of the corner of her eye as Jo pats him on the shoulder - congratulating him on some invention or another. Jo didn't seem to notice, no one did. But, Reyna saw it.
Cornering him later, Reyna asks him point blank if Jo had hurt him at all. As out of character as it seemed, Reyna knew better than most how people could change, or only show a different side to themselves in private. But Leo looks shocked, shaking and crossing his arms in front of himself in a big X shape.
No, no, no, he insists. Jo would never. It wasn't her, it was just a reflex, Leo explains.
Reflexes come from repetition, Reyna counters, and Leo deflates slightly. His face does this half smiling thing, like his mask is melting off slowly. Before he'd died, Jason had told her that Leo wasn't exactly what people thought - or what Leo wanted them to think. They might not have liked the comparison, but he reminded her of Nico in that way.
I had a foster mother who... Leo trails off, but he makes a half hearted fist and swinging motion with a skinny arm. It said enough, he didn't have to explain more.
Reyna tells him she'll talk to Jo and Emmie about it, but that makes him blanch harder. He doesn't want them to act weird around him, doesn't want to be pitied or judged.
They're your moms, Reyna says. They're not going to pity you, they love you.
It seems to give Leo pause, a great feat for him.
You should talk to them, Reyna says again, quieter, less of her Praetor voice sneaking in. Leo agrees, and gives her a short hug before darting off somewhere.
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coquettemouse · 5 months ago
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I love how Leo and Piper are canonically affectionately with each other just like siblings:(
I'm so happy cause he have Piper. He have Reyna. Georgina. Jo. Emmie. The Hephaestus cabin:( his family is so big.
(spoilers)
I'm sure that if Jason was alive, he would be part of the waystation family at some point too:( he could have an family dinner for the very first time
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ottpopfic · 5 months ago
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Jason loves having an office
Jason loves having an office
It started because the pure existence of Leo fucking Valdez is a distraction of the highest caliber. Jason gives himself some leeway on that, because how was he supposed to get any work done with Leo building things? The way his muscles move under his button-up, the way his brow scrunches as he thinks, the dexterity of his fingers, the way his skin hits the light when he pulls his shirt up to wipe away sweat, the way his ass looks as he bends over.
After about the twenty millionth time Georgie and Lit teased him about drooling on his paperwork Jason gave in and talked to Jo and Emmi about asking the Way Station for a room to become an office.
And the Way Station made him a wonderful room. It's not ginormous, but it has a high ceiling and a bookshelf that runs the full length and height of one wall. There's a large arched window overlooking the Pan Am Tower with a wide wooden desk pushed against it, and multiple smaller tables against the other wall for his dioramas and preparations and projects. The back wall by the door has a large papasan couch and bean bags, less for guests and more for Jason to curl up into a little nest when he wants to. It's perfect for his needs, cozy yet airy, with space to both relax and focus. 
He's never had a place that was just his before. He was in the barracks with the Legion, and Cabin One was always more his fathers than his. Even during the short stint when he had his own bedroom at the Way Station he never really settled into it, too panicked about not knowing where Leo was at all times and if any of this was even real to make it his own. 
But his office is his. He can go in there and just like, stare at a wall for hours if he wants. He can take a nap with no lingering guilt because who will find him? He can float around reading if he wants to, never needing a ladder to reach the highest shelves. He can focus down and get tons of work done, he can fiddle with side projects. It's his space.
He also likes Leo in his office. He's the only one the Way Station knows always to let in, although Jason is pretty sure he never told it that. 
In hindsight the Way Station just knew , just like everyone else in their lives, how dysfunctional they are without each other. Piper removed herself from the demigod equation and they may have floundered for a hot second. The amount of times they have dragged each other out of an unhealthy hyperfocus is innumerable at this point. The amount of times Leo has stopped Jason from eating what is apparently ‘Weird shit off the ground’, the amount of times Jason has made Leo eat in general. 
So yeah, it's a good thing that Leo can always get in his office, even though he's the most distracting creature in existence who loves to climb onto Jason’s desk in the middle of important paperwork and demand attention. Jason kind of loves that part too.
He also loves bending Leo over things in his office, or being pinned down in there himself. Because the space is his, and Leo is his, and everything about the situation is good.
Like now, with his Leo splayed out on his desk as Jason has him two fingers deep. And Jason fucking loves fingering Leo.
There's something about the way he is like that, the way Leo moves or cries out or holds on, that has Jason going crazy over it. He's not sure completely what it is, the sounds or control or the way he can wring it out of him over and over and over, but it's fucking addicting.
Leo will do this thing, when Jason loves him like this and he's getting close, where his back will arch and his hips grind down. He will become this beautiful curve of desperation, seeking out whatever Jason has for him. It's hard to take his eyes off of his Leo like this, muscles tensing and fingers trembling, making this high lurching whimper as he builds towards the crest. Jason can't help but touch him elsewhere as he works him up to it, kissing the Lichtenberg figures by his navel, running his hand along the side of his waist towards his ribs to relish in the way Leo is bending. He's so pretty, he's pretty all the time but especially like this.
Leo is even more gorgeous as he trembles apart, every bit of him shaking. It's Jason's name on his tongue as he comes, and Jason's hair tangled in his fingers. That arch of him exaggerates, his whole spine leaving the wood of the desk. Jason is in awe, he always is of Leo but specifically now, all he wants to do is keep working him on his fingers and see if Leo’s body will gift him with another one.
“Holy shit” Leo sobs, using his hand in Jason’s hair to weakly try and pull him off of where he's biting into his hip “Holy fucking shit Jase pump the breaks I need a breather”
Leo is crying with it, little beads of moisture welling up and slipping down his face, the way he does when Jason gets more than one out of him. The first couple of times it scared the shit out of Jason, but now he knows it's closer to an overwhelmed standing ovation. It's almost as good as when he makes Leo catch fire.
Jason nudges his fingers away from that spot in Leo, but he doesn't pull out, instead busying himself with planting kisses all over Leo’s exposed middle. Jason knows he can get another out of him, three is hardly anything anymore, and Leo hasn't given him a color so he knows he can push a little.
“Bet you can give me another” he taunts, nipping down the line of Leo’s ribcage.
“I can't” Leo whines, running his own hand through his sweat-soaked curls. There is a rogue sticky note plastered to the underside of his arm.
“Please?” Jason smiles back into the tan skin under his lips, his Leo is so good when he's all debauched and trembling like this. He scissors his fingers a little, just to make Leo feel it “Can I have another? I know you can do it”
“ Fuck,” Leo whimpers, the hand still in Jason’s hair clenching then loosening so his nails can scratch as he cards through the strands “Fuck okay please green yes”
Jason makes an elated little chuff and gets back to work.
Leo is just so soft inside, and so warm. Jason knows Leo is always worried about burning him, but Jason isn’t. If anything he wants to get more heat off of him, burrow into Leo and curl around the flame that makes up his soul. Find out how much heat he can put off, kiss the steam out of his breath, lick fire off of his skin. This is as close as he can get without opening him up and climbing inside, and better yet it makes Leo feel good too.
But it's not about the feel of him that gets Jason, it's making him come apart. He knows he might be a tad possessive, but being the only one who gets to bring Leo this kind of pleasure satiates something in Jason. He could do this forever, playing his Leo like some kind of instrument, all beautiful and golden in the late afternoon sunlight. 
He gets to watch him best like this too. No distractions from his own body or anything else. He loves to focus down on him like this, find every little bit of him that makes Leo make any little sound. Wring out as much pleasure as he can out of him, watching him shatter over and over. Leo deserves to be doted on like this, deserves to be worshiped like every other god that crosses Jason’s desk, he's so captivating and kind and wonderful and Jason just absolutely needs to be the one getting him there.
“Fuck,” Leo gasps as he comes back down to earth again “Holy fucking shit mi cielo ”
“That was a good one,” Jason compliments, just running his mouth over any bit of Leo’s heaving chest that is close by “You want another one?”
“Babe what the fuck,” Leo whines in disbelief, raking both hands through his hair as he tries to regather himself, he's so overheated at this point his breath is visible “Are you gonna fuck me or not?”
“Do you want me to fuck you?” it honestly didn't even cross Jason's mind, he could sit here and do this all day if Leo would let him.
“I literally just let you finger-bang me for an hour”
“Yeah?” Jason props his chin on Leo’s middle, getting comfy with the cuddle “What about it?”
“You're ridiculous, this is ridiculous” Leo groans
“I can keep fingering you if you let me?” Jason asks hopefully.
“Dont I fucking know it” Leo sits up on his elbows to look down at him “You're obsessed with my ass”
Jason may feel slightly offended at that one “You say that like it's a bad thing” he pouts
“I mean it does make it hard to walk at times” Jason feels a flash of pride and satisfaction at a job well done shoot through him, Leo frowns “Stop smiling, you’re not allowed to be all proud of giving me a sex limp”
“But then everyone-“
“Everyone already knows, ” Leo falls back again to cover his smoking face with his hands, it sends a pen scattering to the floor “It's impossible not to know you fuck my brains out in the daily”
“I mean not on the daily,” Jason goes back to kissing Leo’s chest and middle, there's still parts of him he hasn’t loved on enough today “Sometimes you fuck out mine ”
“Por dios babe!” Leo peers back down at him, pink in the edges “What am I supposed to do with you?”
“Let me keep fingering you?” he tries
“I won't be able to stand”
“You don't need to stand,” Jason grins all teeth at the idea “I can carry you”
“You can not just carry me everywhere”
“Huh? Why not?” he would love to get to carry Leo around more
“Because, because- ” Leo groans, covering his face with his hands again and letting out a long string of cursing in Spanish. Jason goes back to kissing up his chest, laving his tongue over a nipple when he reaches it.
“Stop stop,” Leo puts his hands on Jason's face to half-heartedly push him away, but it barely does anything “You’re gonna get me all revved up again”
“Hmmmm? But that's the plan”
“You just want to finger me until you break my brain”
“That is one of the many end goals yes”
“Jason,” Leo snatches him up by the hair and jaw to pull him off his skin, locking eyes over the enticing expanse of his body “Stop fucking around and fuck me ”
“Oh,” Jason says, perking up at the new way to play with him “Okay”
“‘Okay’ he says” Leo contemplates like he's trying to make fun of him, but its effect is lost in his soft tone and his thumb stroking Jason’s cheekbone “Like he wasn't even thinking about it”
“I wasn't, I just really like fingering you,” he confesses, pressing his cheek into Leo’s hand “You're so pretty when I get it out if you like that”
“More like you enjoy getting a shit ton of orgasms out of me”
“That too” he wiggles his fingers gently from where they are still inside of Leo “Can I stretch you?”
“Yeah, go ahead”
“Can I-?”
“Yes, you can get me off agai-oh Jason !”
Stretching Leo is also such a delight. Not as fun as gently coaxing climax after climax out of him, but lovely all the same. Jason knows that Leo won't stand for more than one more right now, so he does actually have to stretch him, but the hiss and groans he makes as Jason works in another finger make up for it easily.
He focuses on the soft inside of Leo’s thighs as he works him, nipping and sucking at the delicate skin there as he gets him ready. It's such a shame Jason can't admire the marks he leaves here on the daily, covered with cargo pants and jeans as they are, the colors get so rich and beautiful. He tries to time his teeth with his fingers, in the way that gets little breaking whines out of Leo that turn into rasping panting when he eases up. Frantic little sounds through his teeth, shaking fingers as he holds on to Jason’s hair with one hand and the edge of the desk behind his head with the other. 
When Jason starts edging his tongue in with his fingers Leo shatters back apart. It looks to have surprised him, with the timing or the intensity Jason can't tell, but he gasps with it all the same, grinding down on Jason like he can't help it. When his body is finally his own again Leo fists the hand in Jason's hair and another over his shoulders, hulling him up to mash their mouths together.
“If you don't fuck me right now I swear on every fucking god-“ he demands
“How do you want me?” Jason pleads, continuing to stretch him on his fingers just because he can
“I want you in me”
“But do you want to change positions or-”
Leo gives an aggravated “No MAMES!” and starts kicking and shoveling, pushing himself up and Jason back until they are both in Jason’s chair together. He's kneeling on either side of Jason’s legs, using the amazing muscles in his thighs to make himself taller. Jason's hands go immediately under the curve of his ass, both supporting and just to knead fistfuls into the meat of him.
“I’m gonna ride you,” Leo demands through his teeth, hand white-knuckling into Jason’s hair and wrenching his head back so they can lock eyes “And I want you to be good and take it”
“Okay!” Jason chirps, delighted with the turn of events. 
“Pants” Leo demands, starting to work him out of the mentioned garment with his free hand. Jason helps shuck them and his underwear down over his hips with his own, Leo rewards him by sliding his thumb into Jason’s mouth. That's very good, Jason immediately starts to melt.
“You'd do anything I'd tell you too, wouldn't you?” Leo says half to himself “You just love being all mine ”
He does, he would, and Leo can see it in his eyes he can tell. He pushes his thumb farther into Jason's mouth, until the meat of his palm is past his lips and his thumb is at the very back of his throat. Jason just groans and sucks, greedy for any bit of Leo he can get his mouth on.
“Slick yourself up so I can ride you” Leo directs in his ear, Jason scrambles to comply.
And Leo is wonderful as he rides him; this concentrated furrow in his brow, the way his lips part as he gets into a rhythm, the movement of his muscles under his skin. Jason is transfixed, eyes locked on Leo’s face, hands traveling up and down his legs and waist. 
Leo's curls bounce as he moves, escaping from how they have been plastered with sweat this way and that into a perpetual motion directed at his own pleasure. Jason wants him to get there again, he wants to feel him coming apart around him. He's so lovely, the flush and heat of him, the little sounds he makes as he works himself up and down, the way he holds Jason as he takes what he wants. And Jason wants what Leo wants, because he wants Leo, he doesn't think he will ever want anything more.
And he just feels so good. The plush heat around him, the give of his body, silken and wet. It's so easy to get lost in him, the divine pull and the sounds he makes. Jason gets his feet flat on the floor so he can move with him, meeting Leo in the middle in a way that makes him gasp out steam. Hands up his waist, pulling with his give, arching so their chests are flush together, desperate for his warmth, reaching towards nirvana-
It's then that Jason falls the fuck out of his chair
It's not the first time they have fucked in his desk chair, nor the first time they have fallen out of it. In all honesty it's a miracle (or just Valdez design and ingenuity) that they haven't broken it at this point with the abuse it receives. Jason lands flat on his back sending the chair careening across the hardwood on its wheels, the impact forcing a grunt out of him and derailing his build
But this time Leo is on a down stroke, making Jason plunge harder and deeper than he was expecting. It has to be good though, because it sends Leo into a shakey gasping climax. His whole body goes taut, back arching again and head falling back, little licks of flame flashing across his skin like a comet trail. It takes him multiple toe-curling seconds to come back, and then Leo is laughing at the state they are in.
“Oh my god,” Leo cackles “Oh my god Jase are you okay?”
“M’ good m’ good” Jason reassures, sitting up so he can kiss Leo all over his face. He may be chuffing out how pretty he is in Wolf at the same time, who's to say?
When he pulls back to look at Leo he is backlit in the pre-sunset haze of the big arched window. It sets his hair into a glowing halo, laurels of light and fire, the entirety of him shining and golden. Jason can't help but think he looks divine smiling down at him all gap-toothed and auburn, like the vistage of the gods who visit him and ask for his prayers, like he is made of more than mere flesh and bone and fire. 
Jason could build such a temple to his Leo, one that all of Olympus would be envious of. Gold and copper and bronze, painted marble and intricate mosaic. Ionic pillars, open impediments, detailed entablature. And a skylight, so when Jason goes down on him on the alter the light will still catch his hair.
It's probably sacrilege, even thinking about it in his position, but Jason doesn't care. Not when it's Leo, never when it's Leo. He kisses him all the same.
“Did you come?” Leo asks, Jason hums a negative into where he's moved from kissing his mouth to kissing him all over. Leo pulls his head away gently in both of his hands, examining his face and whatever he can read behind his eyes “Do you want to come?”
“I, uh-” it would be nice, but it's not something he needs. He's never really had this drive to work towards a completion himself, at least not how it's described in books and shit, it's more of an abstract fact that happens sometimes. Sometimes his body wants it of its own accord, but in his mind it's always been more neutral. At least until Leo, who has made certain that Jason knows he enjoys giving him pleasure just as much as Jason enjoys getting it out of Leo. It makes sense in that context, because Jason is obsessed with Leo and every part of him, especially the parts that make him feel good. Leo must sense the dilemma of getting all that verbal. 
“ I want you to come”
“Yeah!?” he perks up, because that definitely changes things
“Yeah,” Leo smiles all soft and lovely “You wanna be good and come for me?”
“Yeah, yes please”
“You wanna be good?”
“Uh-huh”
“Okay Cielito, it's okay I got you”
It's then that Leo grinds down again.
“Your uh-” Jason falters, hands gripping at Leo’s waist as pleasure skitters back through him hot and tantalizing “You -”
“I want you to come in me” Leo rasps, kissing across Jason’s cheek until he can talk to him low and explicitly in his ear “And you're gonna be good, right mi alma ?”
“M’ gonna be good” he parrots back, his head already starting to fuzz out like it does when they're like this. He slides his arms around Leo’s waist and up his back, needing him close 
“You’re gonna be so good,” Leo reinforces, voice telling him he completely believes in his ability to do what he says, gently maneuvering Jason’s face into the crook of his neck as he grinds and grinds “Just for me” 
“Just for you” Jason sighs and relaxes into Leo’s hold, putting himself into his sure and capable hands.
It's just another way to lose himself in Leo, letting him love him like this. To be vulnerable, to be pliable, to be his. Leo never takes it for granted, touches him and cares for him with such diligence and consideration it makes Jason’s brain short-circuit. 
When he gets to be good for Leo, when Leo takes the weight of the world off of him for a moment, Jason gets to let go. There's nothing but the two of them and the little things Leo asks of him, it's gentle and easy. Loving Leo has always been easy, having him for a while not so much, but the love was always there. It built, like he is now, this constant organic devotion. 
When Jason figured out what it was, when he knew it was love, everything else made sense. Everything else started falling into place. It was worth fighting for, it was worth waiting for, it was worth dying for. Because the love part was easy, and Leo was always the light at the end of the tunnel.
“You're so good Cielito, doing so good” Leo praises breathlessly, so much love in his tone “Want you to come for me”
He's panting into Leo's neck, hands clenching he's so close. He wants to be good, he wants to be so good for Leo. Leo makes him feel like he can never fail at it, like it's actually worth it. And his Leo feels good, he feels so good, like everything is right in the world.
“Cm’mon Cielito, mi cielo, cm’mon I got you,” he says, hands carding through Jason’s hair voice soft in his ear, a little hitching mewls in the back of his throat “You can do it, just for me right good boy”
That gets Jason there.
He comes with hips stuttering and Leo’s name on his lips like a mantra, like a prayer. Like worship, it's worship like all the other work that goes on in his office, and Leo is the most breathtaking monument ever built.
“You verbal?” Leo asks as Jason comes back into his body, he shakes his head no into Leo’s shoulder and pulls him closer as Leo sits up some to pull out “That's okay, think you can get us to your nest thing?”
Jason can absolutely get them over to his pile of pillows and bean bags and papasan, but only if they fly. His office is set up for people who fly anyway, all high ceilings and ladderless ledges. Leo is used to it at this point, not even trying to hold on as Jason just summons air under them and glides over, kicking off the rest of his pants as they go.
Having Leo in his ‘nest thing’ makes the wack part of Jason’s hindbrain fucking purr. Something about having his Leo all tucked in nice and safe in his little den makes Jason feel content. Like he doesn't have to fret over where he is and if he's okay, like he provided that safety. That worry isn't so bad anymore, not now that they are together, but it still rears its head at times. 
Sometimes Leo will just join him in his office for no other reason than that is where Jason is. He gets comfortable over here on his own, playing on his Switch or fidgeting with his pocket project until he gets bored enough to bother him. Jason loves that, having his Leo here in his space with him, having him wanting to be in his safe place. It's a contentedness he's still getting used to, something he thought he gave up on once upon a time that he found and made for himself with maybe a little help. Maybe a lot of love.
Leo picks up on his gooey train of thought 
“I guess I do also fuck your brains out huh?” he chuckles, tucking errant locks of Jason’s hair back into place
Jason just gives him a satisfied ‘I told you so’ huff snort and gets more comfortable. Usually Leo ends up on the bottom of the cuddle pile, more than happy to use Jason as a weighted blanket. But right now Jason has no intention of adjusting that much, he just rolls a little so his Leo is pressed into the padded back of the papasan into the most protected part of the little den he and the Way Station have made and settles down for the long haul.
“Baby no!” Leo complains “Oh my god don't get comfy were gross ”
Jason only half disagrees, they are very sticky, but the part of him that doesn’t care looks to be winning. Leo on the other hand does not have that problem, he's squirming and failing out of where Jason put him in the safest curve of his little den. He shoves and kicks and wiggles until he's sitting on top of Jason, frowning down at him good-naturedly from his perch on his middle.
“We are gross,” Leo demands, Jason tries to grumble in reply but he's already getting distracted by how pretty Leo is with out-of-control sex hair above him “We are taking a shower!”
Jason lets out a pathetic little puppy whine that would make his mother nip his ears until he got in line, but it only makes his Leo laugh at him.
“I will take a shower without you” Leo threatens like he can stand on his own right now, Jason can still feel his legs shaking. He squints and snorts in challenge, it makes Leo raise his eyebrows and grin at him “Here I gooo ”
Jason doesn’t need to do much to call Leo’s bluff, because the second he tries to swing a leg over he starts to topple. Jason scrambles to catch him, making them both over-balance out of the papasan and into the beanbags below. Leo breaks into bright delighted cackles, looping his arms around Jason’s neck as they hover in the air above the soft material. 
“Let's go clean up,” he beams up at Jason “And I'll see if I can convince the Way Station to send dinner to our room”
And that sounds like a good deal, Leo must see it on his face because he starts laughing again. It's endeared and blinding, like staring at the sun, white-hot leaving afterimages behind when he closes his eyes. Jason can't help but press a few giddy kisses into Leo’s cheek before flying over to the materializing door between his office and their room. Out of his own space and into the one they share together.
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evansbby · 1 year ago
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✨my grey’s anatomy unpopular opinions✨
some of these may not even be unpopular but anyways
Cristina & Burke >>> Cristina & Owen
Burke wasn’t perfect but at least he realised he couldn’t change Cristina and so he did the best thing for both of them by leaving. Obviously leaving someone on the altar is shitty but like in the long run it’s a good thing.
Apart from that, as a couple they were so sweet like if you just watch old clips of them dancing and just living in their apartment and he’s all neat and she’s all messy but it’s just cute!!!
Owen is literally the worst. I don’t even need to explain this one. There were moments where I felt kind of bad for him but overall he is just the worst.
Teddy and Henry were such a cute couple, their story was so sweet and I wish he would’ve stayed alive so they would’ve been endgame.
The scene where Teddy comes home to find Henry throwing up blood on their sink 🥺🥺 When I tell you I cried so hard!!! To me they were top five couples of Greys idec.
They RUINED Callie’s character! She was so good and badass when she was first introduced and then they gave her the worst exit ever. I loved Callie but her last arc aka the custody battle really made me hate her.
Izzie is overhated! I love Izzie and she’s my fav character. Yes cutting the LVAD wire was wrong but she was desperate and in love.
Katherine Heigl (Izzie) CARRIED the first five seasons of this show especially season 2. Her acting was so brilliant, it’s insane. Actually, Katherine Heigl and Sandra Oh (Cristina) carried, and deservedly won Emmys and Golden Globes for their roles bc they were brilliant.
Izzie x Alex >>> Izzie x Denny. Izzex was THE Grey’s couple in the early seasons after MerDer. She changed him 🥺 he changed for her. Their wedding was beautiful, everything about them was beautiful except how she left him but I sort of understood after everything she’d been through. Just know it wouldn’t have panned out like that in storyline if Shonda didn’t have a problem with Katherine. But they got their happy ending in season 16 which I was SO happy about. My fav couple ever. Like I felt bad he left Jo but HE ALWAYS LOVED IZZIE MORE.
I feel like Lexie is overloved? I mean she was a really nice and funny character and she was lovely but why is she people’s favourite character ranked above Cristina and others??? Lexie’s storylines were never really big or important, why are you liking a character just bc they are nice?? Like Sandra Oh didn’t deliver such AMAZING performances for y’all to pick Lexie over her bc she’s “nice”.
CRISTINA WAS THE HEART OF THE SHOW! Which is why I stopped watching at the end of season 10 the moment she left!!! Her dramatic scenes, her comedy, her everything was perfect.
I honestly feel like the central relationship of the show was the friendship and bond between Meredith and Cristina. It was the crux of the show. It was heartwarming watching them be so close, almost telepathically connected without even saying anything.
George was VERY pick me in the early seasons, but he was a GOOD guy and it showed by his actions. Also the way he was so brave in a quiet way.
The scene with Izzie in her prom dress getting in the elevator and the doors open to reveal George in his army uniform showing he died WAS PEAK CINEMA. I CRIED SO HARD.
Alex was genuinely really mean to George up till George died and for no reason?!? He just didn’t like George at all and bullied him and it was uncomfortable to watch like bro it’s been five seasons WHY DO YOU STILL HATE HIM. Like Alex had started being nice to the girls by that point but he was still horrible to George??? I wish I’d seen their friendship develop.
DEREK was a dick. Like at the beginning. I just didn’t like him at all. He grew on me a bit but I honestly didn’t care that much that he died. He had his good moments but first three seasons he was a dick to both Meredith and Addison. I understand why with Addison bc she cheated on him, but he was so awful to Meredith when she was sleeping around and he basically called her a whore??? BRO YOU ARE THE ONE WHO REJECTED HER AND CHOSE ADDISON?!? Bye lmao
Bailey was SO good in the early-mid seasons. Like just so entertaining to watch and honestly Chandra Wilson is the third person who carried the show along with Katherine and Sandra. But she got annoying in later seasons.
But Bayley and Cristina in the shooting episode was top tier acting. You could FEEL their emotions through the screen.
Grey’s Anatomy doesn’t have the same magic anymore since Cristina left. I really don’t like any of the new characters like Maggie or even Amelia or any of the new guys. And OWEN IS STILL THERE WTF.
Besides that, here are some scenes where I felt like the acting was brilliant:
— When Cristina is performing surgery under gunpoint.
— Izzie when Denny dies. I think the best acting performance of the whole show. “An hour ago he was proposing and now he’s going to the morgue.”
— Cristina when Burke left her on their wedding day, “he’s gone, I’m free”
— Bailey in the shooting episode.
— When George remembers that he slept with Izzie when they were drunk. The scene doesn’t even have any dialogue yall, it’s just their EXPRESSIONS are so good. It’s my favourite scene in the whole show. It’s so emotional and dramatic and only a few seconds long.
— Probably others but I don’t remember.
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theamazingmaddyas · 5 months ago
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The Dark Prophecy rants (part 2): Georgina and Apollo
As stated prior, I had read the Dark Prophecy before, back in 2017 when it was released, and every year I would get the new book and convince myself that it would confirm or deny whether Georgina was actually Apollo's bio daughter, and every year I'd get dissappointed. It got to the point that I went to the virtual Tower of Nero tour back in 2020 and my book was backordered so I hadn't read it yet, but gaslight myself into believing that TON would state it so hard that I decided not to ask Rick Riordan though I really really wanted to. (Yes, I did scream out loud a week later when I read it and the ONLY SCENE WAS GEORGIE ASKING ABOUT HER DOLL AND APOLLO LOST IT)
Somehow, gaslighting myself runs deep because I gaslit myself that I just misremembered The Dark Prophecy and Georgie's parentage would be in the book. Which is why I waited until I finished to make this post, even though I think I knew deep down Georgie's godly parentage was not confirmed. Spoiler alert, it was not. In fact, Trophonius specifically said he wouldn't tell Apollo so he suffered and I screamed. Uhg! I think I suffered more than Apollo!
And okay, I understand Rick's message being that Georgie has parents; Jo and Emmie. And Jo and Emmie are her real parents. But what 13 yo me (and me now) is most interested in is godly powers. Whether Georgie is Apollo's bio kid or not changes everything about whether or not the allure of the Cave has to do with her godly parentage, and whether or not her visions are the power of prophesy. Because if it is, that has the implications that Georgie could suffer a similar fate to Hal Green if she uses this power.
Over the last 7 years, I've bounced off a lot of theories of Georgie's godly parentage, and so I'm going to share them now. I'm going to split them into 2 categories: Category 1: Georgie is related to Apollo, and Category 2, She's not.
Category 1:
1) Georgie doesn't look like her bio mortal parent, nor is she from Indianapolis originally
Apollo, though I think it pains him to admit this, remembers his children through their mortal parents. He's an absentee father, so he doesn't know much about his kids, but he does know about his partners. We see this in how we first meet all his kids: Will is compared to Naomi, Kayla to Darren, Austin to Latricia, and Trophonius to his own mother. He tries to think of if he was in Indianapolis 8 years earlier, and with whom and falls short. And in Tower of Nero, to my memory (about to gaslight myself for 3 more books that I remembered TON wrong) he never mentions remembering again when he becomes a god. If Agamethus found her somewhere else and brought her to Waystation, it would make sense why Lester wouldn't make the connection. As for why Apollo doesn't mention it when becoming a god again and being the GOD OF KNOWLEDGE HE SHOULD KNOW THESE THINGS NOW I don't know, and it irks my soul.
2) Georgie is the daughter of Apollo's Roman aspect
This theory is my favorite, especially since it makes the most sense with the Roman emperor plotline, and since Apollo's memories seem to be mostly greek, why he wouldn't be able to remember Georgie or her bio mortal parent. It also could explain why Apollo doesn't mention anything in Tower of Nero. Of course, we know very little about how different Apollo's greek and roman aspects are in the series, especially since he's the only god who has the same name, but I'm sure there's some differences.
Category 2:
1) Georgie is a clear-sighted mortal and destined to be an Oracle
This theory of mine relates Georgie to Rachel Dare and May Castellan. In the same way that they were having visions about being the Oracle of Delphi, Georgie was having visions of the Cave. Georgie is Trophonius' little sister in the metaphorical sense, as she is destined to rule an Oracle like he did. Of course, in the case of May, Hades' curse sent her mad, but it is heavily implied that she was supposed to be the Oracle of her generation. It seems to me that each generation has one clear sighted mortal to become the Oracle of Delphi, so it's possible that Georgie is the oracle post-Rachel in this theory. I'm not sure how far apart in age the oracles are meant to be, but it's always a possibility. Or, like the Oracle of Delphi, the Dark Oracle has chosen mortals to take it on, but since Trophonius has been trapped doing it for a millenia or more, those mortals never get the chance to, like May, and go mad. And with the dissolving of the Oracle, Georgie is no longer destined to that awful fate.
2) Georgie's connection to Agamethus is what drives her. She's either a clear sighted mortal, or a demigod of another parentage.
Trophonius, in this theory, views Georgie as a little sister because Agamethus views Georgie as a little sister. Agamethus is the one who found her, so it makes sense that he has some form of kinship to her, and therefore his brother does too. And because Trophonius has taking a liking to her, he's sent her visions. In this theory, Georgie's bio parents could be literally anyone. She could be a demigod, a legacy, or a mortal.
3) Georgie's a legacy of Apollo (Greek or Roman, doesn't make a difference)
To be honest, I wasn't sure which category this fell into, but I chose this one because she's not specifically Apollo's daughter. The sister is metaphorical in this sense too. Legacy's can sometimes inherit powers (as seen in the Zhang family, as well as if one believes Octavian has some prophetic powers) so it would be there that Georgie's interest in the Cave starts. Also, would explain why Apollo doesn't remember her, because she's his kid's kid, or even more generations than that (though if I had to guess, if this theory were true, I'd say no more than great-grandkid)
So, those are my theories! Yes, I think about Georgie way more than I should over the last seven years, but I digress. I just want to know about if she has powers, and what Cabin she'd be at CHB if she went, so I can write cool canon-compliant fics about her!
If you've read my Solangelo fic "Surprise!" on ao3, in Chapter 8, "Leo and Calypso's Garage: Auto Repair and Mechanical Monsters" you'd notice that I did write Georgie, who's seventeen in that fic, as having clairvoyance, as seen when she knows Lena Valdez (Leo's adopted daughter) is going to come into the garage where her and Harley are fixing Harley's car (he and Georgie are best friends, and no one can change my mind). Obviously, I thought a lot about it beforehand, but decided that I would make her a bio Apollo kid for that fic, though whether she's Greek or Roman is up in the air. Though, even if she were Roman, I do not think she'd join the legion. Jo and Emmie would be very much against that, I think. As for Camp Half-Blood, if she were a demigod, I think they'd be very skeptical, but would let her go for the summer because she'd beg after hearing Leo and Harley's (my hc is that Harley lives in Waystation which is why he's not a year rounder in TSATS, if you want more on this theory, I'll elaborate later.) stories about camp. At least, unlike Camp Jupiter, she wouldn't have to stay year round till her legionare years are up.
In conclusion, Rick Riordan, confirm Georgie's bio parentage, and give her a list of powers and a CHB cabin, and my life is yours. I've been thinking about this nonstop for 7 years, I know Trophonius was trying to hurt Apollo, but he ended up causing me multiple sleepness nights instead.
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