#* character study: tiffin ellerian wrynn / BEAUTIFUL AND WILLFUL AND DEAD BEFORE HER TIME.

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this is maybe me projecting my feelings because I’m too alliance main, but in any verse tiffin survives beyond her canonical death, I think she’d be very supportive of those looking for justice for what happened to them. gilneas fell to the forsaken and genn lost his son (she doesn’t know and dreads ever knowing what it would be like to lose a child, but her kingdom fell when she was a girl, and although it didn’t cause her to hate all the orcs, she’s certainly felt anger and resent). innocent people died and theramore was obliterated, after everything jaina did for peace she just lost so much (and while I write characters on the other side of that who didn’t in fact know what was going on because garrosh kept them in the dark, the alliance side of things doesn’t know this, and jaina most of all? I get her not even wanting to hear it). tyrande lost not only her land but had to see something deeply sacred to her and her people burn, people who suffered horrible deaths.

and I just think she’d feel very deeply for each and all of them. it doesn’t make her hate the horde and think they all have to die, that’s not ever her approach to things, but moving forward ignoring what happened before isn’t building peace, the way tiffin would see it, it’s just an interlude until the next war comes. you have to face what happened and people have to be held accountable or the old hatreds will resurface at some point. without any sort of justice, those who suffered won’t heal. but there are ways to make justice less about punishment and more about reform, and I feel this is mostly where she’d stand when it comes to people paying for their crimes. 

I don’t think she’s oblivious to the alliance having their share of wrongs to right either. they have enslaved people and destroyed cities and killed innocents too. and that’s also something they’d have to face if peace is ever to be achieved, because acting like they’re morally superior won’t get anyone anywhere.

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* tag drop: tiffin ellerian wrynn.

‣ muse { tiffin ellerian wrynn } —  ❝ WILDFLOWER. ❞ ‣ character study { tiffin ellerian wrynn } —  ❝ BEAUTIFUL AND WILLFUL AND DEAD BEFORE HER TIME. ❞ ‣ isms { tiffin ellerian wrynn } —  ❝ THERE IS BRAVERY IN BEING SOFT. ❞ ‣ in character { tiffin ellerian wrynn } —  ❝ MADE OF SUNLIGHT. ❞ ‣ aesthetic { tiffin ellerian wrynn } —  ❝ WILD AND BEAUTIFUL AND DRENCHED IN SUN. ❞ ‣ physique { tiffin ellerian wrynn } —  ❝ LIKE A WILDFLOWER‚ BEAUTIFUL AND FIERCE AND FREE. ❞ ‣ dynamics { tiffin ellerian wrynn & varian wrynn } —  ❝ WE HURT‚ WE BURN‚ WE BLOOM. ❞ ‣ dynamics { tiffin ellerian wrynn & anduin llane wrynn } —  ❝ FOR EVEN IF I’M FAR AWAY‚ I HOLD YOU IN MY HEART. ❞

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“She loved that locket, Anduin,” Varian said. “She loved beauty, and the people of Stormwind... but the thing she loved the most of all was you.”

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in light of me finally understanding the sorting of the shadowlands broke sometime during legion, I was thinking about my sorting for my muses again:

alleria would still be maldraxxus and she’d be like why am I here but she’s too much of a warrior, and too little about order or nature to go anywhere else alternatively, void related afterlife, which would likely suck but is also interesting to think about aksjdfnkjasndf

kelantir I don’t? really know? she’s a paladin and all but I don’t see her fitting in the ‘you follow this path and never question anything ever’ place kasjndfkajsndf if she went to bastion because order and serving, she’d probably end up as one of the failed ascended

nalice is revendreth all the way. if she died and was actually redeemed would be interesting... in that scenario she’d likely stay in vampire land to help redeem others!

nathanos would go to revendreth, were he to die and things to be working. his first death he didn’t stay dead long enough to be judged and sent anywhere, but I feel like he might have gone bastion... maybe

tiffin went to bastion and refused to forget about her life you can pry this headcanon from my cold dead hands 

sindragosa definitely was in bastion for AGES when arthas decided it would be cool to bring her back and I have lots of feelings about that because she died like.... when deathwing turned? in the war of the ancients? that was THOUSANDS of years ago? and she was in bastion all this time and then... and then..... I don’t think she’d have ascended though bc everyone can see she’s unable to forget her resent towards malygos specifically and I bet given the chance to literally forget she would have taken it tbh but she just can’t  it’s a nice thing to use to explain why she doesn’t much care for other dragon stuff! she likely did forget bc she let go of those memories, but malygos and her death specifically stuck with her

still can’t decide for tyrande tbh bc I want to say ardenweald but Idk if that’s valid

I think alex fits with the whole ‘had a natural calling in life for service in one form or another’ ‘order’ ‘purpose’ ‘serving’ stuff from bastion, though she is very tied with nature and life so that’d be ardenweald?

illidan is a demon and doesn’t get to go to the shadowlands

lorna is probably maldraxxus which she would absolutely hate wtf this undead aesthetics is she a joke to you

lor’themar and thaly I really don’t know. specially her I don’t feel like she fits in any of those so I’ll just imagine she’d go to one of the ones we haven’t seen aksndfakjfd

that’s all subject to change when we have more info but

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riots happen as they do in canon, tiffin is injured but survives (ony in the bg like why won’t you die)

varian is still pissed, the stonemasons still go into hiding

the house of nobles under ony still gets bolvar to be anduin’s regent when varian goes missing

but uh no one can convince me tiffin wouldn’t have been there to nag at bolvar to not do everything the nobles wanted

ony uses her spells to control him anyways so she gets to do what she wants ig I’m just saying tiffin would be there to push on the opposite direction even if it doesn’t work asknfksdnfkjnf

varian is split shenanigans happen, and uh, she has Doubts that’s really him when half of him returns

that was worded in such an awkward way but you guys understand what I mean

ony ensorcelled him too and there’s all that stuff with him being interested in her that? would be? a lot more awkward with his wife being around ig

by awkward I mean she’s angry and upset and doesn’t want to look at his face or katrana prestor’s aksndfkjsndnkjfn

she’d probably try to stay away from him as much as possible and in turn that probably allowed ony to keep doing her thing and bolvar and anduin to investigate as happens in canon

10/10 wanted to go after ony herself when anduin was abducted tbh 

listen I know she would die and she knows that too but that doesn’t mean she wouldn’t okay  l i s t en 

everyone involved was probably like no but she’d have wanted to go ok it’s her son, he’s in danger, nothing else matters

anyways anyone who helped save him? she’s eternally and entirely grateful. y’all the best she loves you

would be quite content to have varian back, this time for real

even though at first she might be a little? idk. she doesn’t know either. on one hand dragon spell and etc, on the other hand if she had to deal with her husband being openly interested in katrana prestor that’d be something that happened, even if it was magic and not bc he really would, and something that hurt her so. it’s uh complicated.

with the pre-wrath attacks on stormwind, I figure her priority would be to set up whichever measures could be used to stop/prevent plagued food from getting to people, and to keep as many civilians out of the way as possible when actual battles would happen

which is? more or less? the default of what I see her doing? as in, if there’s something happening in stormwind like that, she’ll see to the measures in regards to civilians/that people are cared for and fed to the best of their ability. 

listen there’s a lot of people involved in the world saving stuff, someone has to make sure the rest of the people who are there just trying to live their lives don’t die ig

also while she’d obviously not be the one commanding this sort of thing in other kingdoms, she’d 10/10 offer help where she could, even if it’s literally like being there to tend to the wounded to the best of her rudimentary abilities

what can I say she likes to make herself useful by helping people

she’s in stormwind most of the time and whenever varian leaves for any reason she’s the one in charge

I can’t see her not doing her best to see westfall recovered 

like? people going weeks without food? on her kingdom? kingdom that is otherwise fine in spite of the world ending crisis every two years or so? not on her watch 

and that’s not even purely because she cares for the people and the place she came from. like, it’s just a good idea to see the place that provided for most of the food for the kingdom to be recovered, you know? 

specially when not having food is a problem in this very region…

I don’t think that interferes with vanessa much? other than maybe having less of the people’s support given that even if westfall is not recovered, it’s recovering and there’s visible effort in that direction?

I’m pretty sure I’ve said it before but she’s a supportive mom that’d support anduin’s choice when he chose to go learn from velen

tiffin vc: do what you feel is the right thing to do you’re doing amazing sweetie

but I mean she demands he sends her news bc you know she’d miss him a lot :c

when varian dies, as devastated by it as she’d be (and she would be), I don’t see tiffin losing herself in grief, and she’d most certainly be there for anduin and to give him support

and I mean this in every sense. when genn is like ‘we need him to be a king you know’ she’d very much be like ‘he will be and a great one at that but if he needs time he’ll have it, I’ll take care of things in the meanwhile’. if anduin needs to cry and for his mom to hug him? she’ll also be there. if he needs to talk to someone who understands his loss as something personal and who’s also going through that, she’s there too. 

and when he does become king I also see her being there to make things easier on him as much as possible, be it advising or taking care of some of it so he doesn’t have to handle everything on his own

what I mean is: tiffin is there to make sure the weight of being king won’t crush him, as well as when it comes to grieving and subsequent healing

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What would you say is Tiffin's greatest flaw, and how does it relate to her greatest strength?

UNPROMPTED ASKS // always accepting!

I would say it’s her stubbornness, probably. She’s very strong willed, even if people fail to see that sometimes due to her not usually acting agressively assertive or being openly , but she is definitely stubborn in a way that can be harmful (mostly just to herself). It isn’t something I’d say happens all the time, but it is still frequent enough as to be a flaw that is largely prejudicial to her, and it can lead to Tiffin being so set on something that it hinders her ability to reason or to listen to others, or to give someone a chance --- so it conflicts very directly with how she is and her usual approach to things, given she tends to be rather levelheaded and openhearted.

Which are some of her main strengths, although it is in caring I think her greatest strength is, because of how broadly she cares and because of how driven she is on acting on it and doing all that is within her power to make things better for others. She isn’t one to ignore someone else’s pain, regardless of who they are, or to not try to help if she feels she can do something.  But her refusal to change her stance on something or her opinion of someone gets in the way of that sometimes; for example, I think it likely was something that hindered her ability to be better at court politics, something that is quite contrasting to Varian’s description of her as someone adaptable and adept at gentle persuasion (because she disagreed, or did not like how things were done, that in turn causing her to be unwilling to compromise unless she absolutely had to, even if trying to find a middle ground or playing accordingly would allow her to achieve better results on some fronts and she’s definitely smart enough to realize that); or even in regards to Varian, who she decided she hated at age nine or something and stayed set on that and refusing to even get to know him until the situation resulted on getting to know him happening anyways and they fell in love and everything could have been simpler and nicer and easier if she wasn’t like that (he too but I’m talking about her flaws so asdfjasdifhuadsi). 

I think her willfulness relates to her strengths in a very ambivalent way, in that it can enhance her strengths when it is a motivator and something that pushes her forward in doing good no matter what stands in the way, but at the same time it can be something that gets in the way of her best qualities when it leads her to be unwilling to compromise and set on disagreeing/disliking something or someone without even giving them a chance.  

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anonymous said: Would Tiffin have wanted other children?

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She would, yes. Tiffin loved her family, and she loved her son but she loved being a mother too, so I do think she would have very much wanted to have more children. Of course parenting is hard, and there are bad parts too, but she liked it, she liked taking care of Anduin herself, she loves children but also she’d just really like a big family.

With how I portray her, she was not an only child, and she had good relationships with her brothers, even better than with her parents, and that likely would influence how she sees it too, because beyond how she feels about it, there’s how it impacts her children too, and I think she’d see it as beneficial in several ways, and companionship and having someone to turn to beyond parents was possibly part of it.

So she’d think it’d be good for Anduin and her other eventual children, and on her part she'd definitely want multiple children.

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@fatesblades​ said: How does Tiffin feel about the other races on Azeroth? Has she spent time with any?

SEND ME QUESTIONS ABOUT MY MUSES // always accepting tbh.

The way I see her being, Tiffin really is the kind of person who’d just make friends with all sorts of people, and I think that’s true race-wise too. She tends to judge people more so individually than as a group, so I don’t know how much of an opinion she’d tend to have on races as a whole, specially the ones she’s had no contact with. I believe she wouldn’t really feel one way or another about them for the most part

Given how wrecked Stormwind was in the First War, and that this affected her very directly, her experiences with orcs were far from good. Still, that wouldn’t make her hostile towards an individual that wasn’t hostile towards her; wary, sure, but not really antagonistic unless she had a reason to be — her stance would always be more avoidance than conflict. As far as her feelings towards other races go, I think orcs would be at the most negative end of the spectrum, and even then, it’s far from like, hating them or something like that, even if there's disliking. She’s more likely to keep her distance and be distrustful of them, but she doesn’t really resent them as a whole, or at least she doesn’t judge them negatively from the moment she understands they’re also sentient living beings that think and feel much like the humans do. In spite of her personal losses and how much her homeland suffered, judging them all as the same thing would then feel wrong to her; there are good humans and bad humans, and people who’d enjoy war as much as she dislikes it, so surely this is true in regards to them also. Which doesn’t mean they can’t be violent, and she’s seen enough destruction caused by them that her first reaction won’t be to be as friendly/approachable/warm as she usually is. She may not hate them, but she won’t assume they’re good either.

Her views on Alliance races on the other hand would be mostly positive, given there’s no reason for them not to be and they’re allies (this being the Alliance of Lordaeron when she was alive, so dwarves and High Elves being the allies). I think the elves leave it more or less by the time she dies, but even then, what their leaders decide to do in that regard wouldn’t really be a reason for her to dislike them? Regardless, I think she wouldn’t have interacted a lot with them, except for mostly formal situations when she was being queen and etc, because I tend to think she’d have stuck more with Stormwind. Considering she was queen consort, not heavily invested in politics and didn’t have a good relationship with Varian at first, I feel like this is specially true early on, as he wouldn’t really have listened to her about anything and she wouldn’t have tried to get involved in any of that. Later on, maybe, but by then the Alliance is kinda dissolving and they still have a lot to deal with in their own kingdom, so yeah, she mostly sticks with Stormwind’s inner workings than Alliance anything.

Had she survived, she’d likely have interacted with other races more and then maybe had more of a certain way she’d feel towards them, but as was she didn’t really spend much time with any of the others. Tiffin is usually both curious and thoughtful enough that I see her taking a true interest in learning about the other races and wanting to interact with them, and while this would mostly be Alliance races, if the opportunity was there to do the same towards the others, she’d probably take it. Like I said about the orcs, she might be a bit wary of some of them at first, but she’d always give people a chance. She may have kept her greater affinity towards the dwarves and elves? maybe? I’m not sure. I think it’d depend on how her interacting with the other races would go, so I’m not really set on which ones she’d have a greater liking or disliking towards.

But yeah, tldr generally speaking, I think her feelings about the other races are mostly neutral, with some of them varying more towards positive or negative depending on her own experiences.

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Tyrande’s favorite flowers are Burning Blossoms (why yes this is entirely based on MEMENTO OF TYRANDE). The favorite plant she had in her home, however, was the alor’el Shandris gave her and Malfurion as a wedding gift.

Thalyssra’s are, of course, Dusk Lilies — but she actually really likes flowers in general (I feel like her estate validates this because… many flower thingies). She actually enjoys tending to her gardens herself, too, very much so — using a bit magic, of course. She is a nightborne, after all, and the First Arcanist no less asdnjskadnfsakd

Tiffin loves flowers! all flowers! I don’t actually think she has a favorite? not one she could say ‘ah yes that’s my favorite’. you bet the keep had a nice garden dedicated to her that was probably her favorite place.

If you give any of them flowers, they’ll be very happy

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@redeeming-sun​ said: 🍇🥝

𝐅𝐑𝐔𝐈𝐓𝐘 𝐇𝐄𝐀𝐃𝐂𝐀𝐍𝐎𝐍 𝐏𝐑𝐎𝐌𝐏𝐓𝐒   ♡   𝐒𝐘𝐌𝐁𝐎𝐋 𝐌𝐄𝐌𝐄 // accepting.

🍇  :    how would my muse describe their childhood?  how much has it impacted the person they are now,  or will become as an adult?  around what age did they or will they start to mature,  and why?  do they wish to go back to their days as a child,  or have they embraced adulthood?  

Well, Tiffin’s childhood was great until it wasn’t asuhdfasidhf There’s a very clear line of before and after the First War, and I think on her part whenever childhood is mentioned she would think only of the before, so she would remember it fondly, and would describe it as being good.

As a little girl growing up in Westfall, she had a great time. Westfall was considered an important part of the kingdom, considering it was called the ‘breadbasket’ of Stormwind and it is also important because of the mines. Nowadays it has yet to recover from all the shit that happened there, but when Tiffin was little, it was thriving. Being a noble child from the family who ruled there, she was in a pretty comfortable position; and because her family was minor nobility, ascended to it through wealth, she ended up growing up much less restrained by rules and traditions and such (that and she not always cared to abide them, I think). She got to be a child, and do childish things, to indulge her love for the outdoors, to play and interact with other kids, even those she wasn’t really supposed to befriend. Of course she had certain duties, had to attend lessons and all, but she had a lot of freedom and lived very comfortably, and it was a pretty good childhood.

Things change a lot when the Horde attacks. Westfall fell to the Horde before Stormwind and Redridge, and well, that changes everything. Her home is ruined, her brothers go to war and two of them end up dead, her mother is killed in one of the many times they had to escape orcs, because they are some of those who are left behind due to not reaching Lothar in time to flee to Lordaeron. For Tiffin herself, I think she would consider her childhood ended when this started, so it doesn’t really count --- because there was no more room for being childish when survival was at stake. I don’t remember how old she’d have been then but I think it was something around eleven? So technically you could consider her late childhood counts here but Tiffin personally would not. Regardless, it is undoubtedly when childhood had to be left behind and she had to assume more responsibilities.

I think that time influences her more heavily than what she would define as her childhood, because the deep changes and suffered losses and everything she saw up close and lived through left undeniable marks that made her grow into someone even more caring and kind than she may naturally have been. The freedom she had as a child and how prone she was to being around all sorts of people surely had some influence on her, though, because Tiffin certainly values freedom a great deal, and she sees everyone as valuable and important, no matter their background, and this is something that does shape how she acts as a queen.

I don’t think she longed to go back to those days, as an adult; at least not in the sense of actually going back. She would sometimes wish for simpler things, and less responsibility and things and people who were lost, but I think that’s more about longing for those things than for her actual childhood -- something she definitely did, for a time, but not a long time. Mostly she simply remembers her childhood fondly.

🥝  :    does my muse have any  ‘  unusual  ’  habits, interests,  and  /  or talents?  do they hide it,  or are they proud of it?  

Lor’themar doesn’t have anything really unusual as far as habits/interests/talents go? He’s basic and a lot of what he likes/is good at is related to the one thing he defines himself as the most, which is being a ranger. Even what isn’t tied to that I wouldn’t really describe as unusual? Regardless, any interests/habits/talents he has I don’t think he’d try to hide, but he wouldn’t really show it off either so knowing about it or not really only depends on how much you know him.

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Tiffin was born and grew up in Westfall

Westfall fell to the Horde before Stormwind and Redridge did, so I’m placing this at year 2, if the First War starts with the opening of the Dark Portal on year 0. She’d have been about 12 ? I think.

Her family needs names so her dad was Auberon Ellerian (and he was an only son). Her mother was Clarissa Ellerian née Luxford. Her three brothers were Soren, Alaric and Garlan.

Her brothers Alaric and Garlan died fighting for Westfall and Stormwind in the First War. Lothar didn’t manage to gather all survivors before going to Lordaeron, and Tiffin and her family (what was left of it), as well as a small number of people from Westfall, were some of those who stayed behind. Her mother was later killed in one of the many times they had to escape orcs that were hunting for survivors.

With the Second War and the Horde turning towards Lordaeron and Quel’thalas, and everyone thinking Stormwind was lost either way, that probably led to a period of less struggle than the immediate post-war following the First War. 

Tiffin doesn’t know how to fight beyond Idk ‘stab them if you need to’. She did learn a few things as far as healing/taking care of people goes, and also a bunch of other things that seem really basic but she wasn’t taught as a noble lady, such as cooking, because life was considerably different and harder having to survive the war and the orcs. 

She was already prone to making friends everywhere, even with people far bellow her station, and she always did care for the commonfolk, but that particular experience definitely brought her even closer to them and shaped a lot of her stance as queen and why she’d be known as ‘a queen of the people’.

As soon as the Second War was over and Stormwind retaken, her family definitely pushed for Varian to keep the arrangement and marry her as soon as possible. He was officially crowned at eighteen, and I think they’d have been wed around that time. This? Should? Be? Around year 8 I think.

Anduin was born in year 15, which is also when she died. She’d be 25 or something close to that. I think.

In the verse she doesn’t die (ofc I have a verse where she doesn’t die that’s mandatory), the riot still happens and she is injured but survives. It is severe enough an injury that she would have experienced symptoms such as confusion and memory loss, and it took her years to recover from those. More permanently, she’d have trouble with severe headaches and dizziness.

Varian is still pissed, the Stonemasons still go into hiding.

By the time Varian disappears, she is well enough she could be Anduin’s regent but I haven’t decided if I’ll do that because saying she wasn’t his regent impacts things less. I’m leaning towards the House of Nobles under Katrana Prestor pressing for Bolvar to be the regent even if she’s alive, and probably trying to use her health as an excuse, even though by then she’d have recovered.

Regardless, Katrana is hardly the only one advising Bolvar because like hell Tiffin will let the nobles do as they want.

The Varian that returns is not her Varian and she would have doubts he was really Varian at all but he is as far as anyone can see/prove and she’s as heartbroken as when he disappeared tbh

also she’d be deeply hurt and absolutely enraged at his interest in Katrana Prestor, which would have led her to stay away from him as much as possible and to become a lot more withdrawn, and in turn that probably allowed Onyxia to keep doing her thing and Bolvar and Anduin to investigate as happens in canon.

She wasn’t there when Onyxia was finally revealed. Even though she isn’t a warrior, she would have rushed towards the Great Hall as soon as she realized something was wrong, though, because Anduin was there. Ofc, she isn’t able to stop Onyxia of abducting him.

Varian having been split into two different people and ensorcelled by Onyxia, while it explains a lot, definitely doesn’t make her immediately amenable to him

She wasn’t a priest but she has a great affinity for the Light

Very loving mom who loves her son very much and is very supportive of his choices and is very proud of him.

And who would be beside him to advise him and help when he becomes king, and to give him support and overcome grief together when Varian dies

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Considering the Ellerian family had a small piece of land in Westfall and was not an important noble family, not even having a seat in Stormwind’s House of Nobles before Tiffin was wed to Varian, I… don’t know what the Wrynns got from the match, although I assume it had to be beneficial for both sides since it was arranged when Tiffin was born. Since it is said they owned a small part of Westfall, I assume it was more about what was in said small piece of land and their political influence in the region, considering back then Westfall was still thriving and said to be Stormwind’s ‘breadbasket’ and to have ‘abundant mines’. 

For the Ellerians, the benefit was obviously to become part of the House of Nobles and ensure a place as part of the most powerful bloodlines in the realm. I think that is telling enough they most certainly were ambitious, even if that is less true of Tiffin herself. 

All of that considered, plus the fact devs said “Tiffin helped Varian control his occasional anger issues and taught him economics, while Varian helped teach Tiffin about politics and social etiquette.” my headcanon is that her family was rather recent nobility, ascended to it through wealth.

She was the youngest child and only daughter, having three older brothers.

One of them was probably the one to assume their family’s seat in the House of Nobles.

None of them are still alive probably.

A big part of why she hated Varian at first was that she was sentenced to marrying him even before she had any sense of self so. That was not fun. She hated the match itself, for being something she was forced into, more than she hated him. But she also hated him.

They probably argued A LOT early on when they met, and lots of people were like ??? where did that come from she’s so sweet and pretty

Anyone who knew her well/was close to her also knew that while she was sweet, yes, she was also very willful

And feisty. She is good and kind but she would absolutely not take shit from anyone. 

10/10 would argue with people she shouldn’t, because if it is the right thing to do she will do it regardless of consequence and not caring to appease people that are clearly wrong/acting in a way that would be harmful to others. She really wouldn’t stand for injustice.

…yeah she’d definitely need help with learning to navigate politics.

Tiffin genuinely cared for the people, and did try to defend their interests whenever it was possible. She was very popular with them; not so much with the House of Nobles.

I need more time to make sense of dates/ages/timeline bc I suck with those thanks

also I’ll just use this post to make the tag drop

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Did Tiffin have a childhood sweetie

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S   :   SWEETHEART.   did your muse have a childhood sweetheart?

Yes. Tiffin made friends everywhere with all sorts of people (even though she shouldn’t, according to her family), and she just ended up being really close to one of those friends, who was not a noble, just the son of farmers. As is usually the case with childhood infatuations it was all very innocent ofc but her family saw them hold hands once (1) and she wasn’t allowed to talk to him ever again because she was already promised to Varian and because her family is shit and they’d be horrified she let someone who is not a noble hold her hand regardless. 

Tiffin being how she is, she’d have tried to sneak out and meet him anyways because he was her friend and she liked him very much, but like I said, her family is shitty so they’d probably have warned his family not to let him near her again, and that was the end of it.

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a historical / fantasy / period / medieval friendly character survey.

repost and bold your muses preference.

roses / cherry blossoms / orchids / tulips

winter / summer / autumn / spring

thunderstorms / sunshine / snow

indoors / outdoors

meat / fruit / sweets

extravagance / traditionalism / minimalism

cats / dogs / horses / birds

sunrise / sunset

day time / night time

fire / earth / water / wind

reading / writing

rising early / sleeping late

wine / ale / neither

fur / silk / satin / lace

rubies / pearls / sapphires

horse back / walking / carriages

love / power

having company / being alone

lakes / rivers / oceans

knife / sword / bow / poison

gold / silver

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wyrdmachinations replied to your post: anonymous said: Would Tiffin have wanted other...

Do you think being a royal would also have her wanting another? Considering a line of succession? Great take.

I think her wanting more children would really come more from a personal place than duty. When they have Anduin, Tiffin and Varian have been wed for a couple years (checking my notes on the timeline, they likely got married soon after the second war, likely around year 8 or 9, and Anduin was born on year 15, which means they’d have been wed for more or less seven years? what is math). In their case, I see it as being not so much that they struggled to have a child as they wouldn’t have tried until some time after they actually really had a good relationship, considering neither of them wanted to get married in the first place.

So while I’m sure there were likely lots of people like THE SUCCESSION LINE!!! WHERE ARE YOUR CHILDREN!!! @ them, the duty aspect of it doesn’t seem to have been enough to have pressured them on having a child in the first place (which seems accurate because Varian and Tiffin are both quite stubborn). I mean, 7 years is a considerable time, and given the instability of Stormwind and all, since it had to be rebuilt and etc, keeping the Wrynn line alive ought to have had? some more priority than that akssjdnfknf but it wasn’t and I think that really speaks a lot about how they would have dealt with things where having children is concerned, and I do see it as always being a choice that’s less about duty and more of a personal nature, even if their marriage happened out of duty (or perhaps specially because of that! they didn’t have a choice in that, and luckily for them it turned out well and they fell in love, but now they can choose things, such as when have children and how many, and I think that would matter to them both, though I can’t really speak for Varian aksjndka)

Because of all of that, I think the line of succession would just be one more thing in favor of having more children, albeit so small I don’t know if I’d count it as a motivation to her

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𝐖𝐇𝐀𝐓  𝐓𝐑𝐀𝐆𝐈𝐂  𝐂𝐇𝐀𝐑𝐀𝐂𝐓𝐄𝐑  𝐅𝐑𝐎𝐌  𝐀𝐍𝐂𝐈𝐄𝐍𝐓  𝐆𝐑𝐄𝐄𝐊  𝐋𝐈𝐓𝐄𝐑𝐀𝐓𝐔𝐑𝐄  𝐀𝐑𝐄  𝐘𝐎𝐔  ?

YOU ARE:  patroclus

you are patroclus, from the iliad by homer, doomed by fate to be stuck in a love story that has no place on the battlefield. although you always have the best intentions, you have to realize you cannot save everyone. your unwavering loyalty means you often lose yourself in the process of putting others first. take a deep breath, remember who you are, and that you are deserving of the same love you try to put out. you are kind, you are strong, and you give and you give but it is never enough to protect those you love. in the end, it’s not even enough to protect yourself.