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The ghost of a past regret
The tome hidden under Damianās mattress continued to burn in the back of his mind. He knows he shouldnāt have kept it. Magic is dangerous, that of the Infinite Realms especially so. And there was no guarantee the book was even accurate; heād never given the cultists a chance to make use of its contents.
But a single section from it refused to leave his mind. He couldnāt just throw out the opportunity it offered.
āDanyalā¦ā
āāā
Damian had hated to admit it, but his twin brother could be cannier than him at times. Danyal had caught on to the harm of the League long before he ever had.
And he had tried to get out. To get them both out.
Damn him. Why couldnāt Danyal have been selfish for once in his lifeā¦
But Damian had still been caught up in it all. He was the perfect heir. He was loyal. He would not betray his family in the League.
And yet heād been so quick to betray his brotherā¦
Danyalās shocked gasp as Damianās knife slipped between his ribs still echoed in his ears when he awoke from nightmares. Sometimes, on particularly bad nights, he would swear he could still feel the blood dripping down his hands, and amount of scrubbing ever made the sensation go away.
He was sure Alfred at least had noticed the redness of his hands, but he never pushed for answers. Damian was thankful for that, even as he felt undeserving of the comfort. It had all been his fault.
At the time of the betrayal, Damian had felt little of the emotional weight. He was disappointed in his brother, but he was just doing his duty to the League. It would only be later that it set in, and the regrets continued to eat at him long after his family forbid all discussion of the traitor his twin.
What if he hadnāt fought? Would they have succeeded at escaping? Would they have met their father sooner? Would he still be able to see Danyalās smile?
It was pointless to wonder. Danyal was gone.
āāā
But perhaps not completely.
The siren song of the spellbook continued to call to him. The first thing to ever offer even the faintest glimmer of hope for finding closure.
For it contained a ritual to summon the ghosts of the betrayed.
Maybe it wouldnāt work. Regardless of the bookās accuracy, heād never done anything like it before and wouldnāt be using the spell for its intended purpose. It was described for use in combat, tearing apart enemies with the specters of the vengeful dead, not for seeking atonement. Was changing the context even possible without entirely restructuring the ritual? He didnāt know.
And it wasnāt like he could ask the magicians of the Justice League Dark for helpāeven the most unscrupulous among them would still try to dissuade him and likely inform his father.
But how could he not try?
It might be wishful thinking to hope he would ever forgive him. But even if Danyal rejects the apology, it would still be worth it just to see his brother just one more timeā¦
He grit his teeth and clamped his eyes shut as emotions warred against logic inside him. It was a terrible idea. He shouldnāt do it. He shouldnāt.
āDamn it.ā
The tome felt impossibly heavy as he pulled it from under the mattress with unsteady hands.
He had a ritual to set up.
#iāll leave it up to you if Danny actually died there or survived until the portal incident#surviving would put him closer to DPās canon#but he could still become Amity Parkās ghostly protector and make a new life there either way#demon twins au#bruce wayne is dannyās bio father#betrayal (in the past)#dp x dc#dpxdc#dc x dp#dcxdp#danny phantom x dc crossover#dp x dc prompt#dpxdc prompt#dc x dp prompt#dcxdp prompt#danny and damian are brothers#danny and damian are twins#danyal al ghul au
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Homesickness is where the heart is
#my art#tea n ink#favourite scene in the entire game#i have SO MUCH respect for the dev for keeping the missing country a complete mystery#like an event only ever comedically referred to as āthe incidentā#like a horror movie monster you never fully see#i want to know so badly and i hope im NEVER TOLD#the fact you never find out and both the player and siffrin just gotta DEAL WITH THAT#is infinitely more interesting than anything any writer could say was canon#also can i say?#the importance that someone's religion culture food and language has to literally every other character#makes the fact siffrin cannot have that and cannot get it back HURT SO MUCH#AND AND AND#the fact that all of it is so intuitive and familiar to him that he can ALMOST grasp it but never enough to make it hurt less is just *mwah#ISAT#in stars and time#siffrin#isat siffrin#isat#isat fanart#artists on tumblr#isat tea n ink#isat spoilers
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Something something Dooku survives the Clone Wars, the Imperial Era, and even a few years past the OT...
And Luke finds him while looking for More Jedi to help him teach.
Chewie recognizes the decrepit old bastard, and there is yelling, but being A Hundred And Nine has mellowed Dooku out in his own dusty hermit hut, on the other side of the galaxy from Ben and Yoda's hermit huts.
All the Jedi ghosts are unhappy with this but Dooku isā¦ not REFORMED, technically, but he's old and tired, even if the Force keeps him a bit more healthy and energized than the average Old Guy, and humans routinely live to pretty unreal old ages in the gffa anyway so really 109 for them is probably like 85 for us.
But yeah. Old mountain hermit (to contrast the desert and the swamp) who's been in hiding from That Dick Sidious since he lost both hands to babyface Vader in 19BBY.
@jebiknights (Sammie) said:
Dooku finds out Luke was also trained by Yoda and is like "oh Yoda finally gave me a younger brother like I always wanted"
Alternately he could probably get Luke to call him Great-Great-Grandfather.
Sammie: Funniest option is he's both which makes Luke even more confused lmao Ghost Obi wan in the background like "stop fucking using non Jedi terms to describe Jedi relationships it doesn't fucking work"
Luke calls him, irreverently, Gramps, but also. Leia definitely recognizes him as a Recent Historic Political Figure, but not until AFTER Luke has already integrated Dooku into his new Jedi school.
"Why did Chewie let him do that?" He thought it was funny. (And/or if you like Chewku, you can make this some sordid exes thing.)
"Why did R2 let him do that?" Best keep evil man in electrical prodding range.
Sammie: Leia comes to the school for her biweekly Jedi lessons and sees the newest teacher was a traitor to the Republic š
Best if they can find Quin or Ventress out in the black. Partly because like. Does this make Ventress their step-grandma (Quinlan's on-off something) or their great-great-aunt (Dooku's 4th apprentice)?
Sammie: Both and also Luke's niece. Luke has a migraine by the end of it and Leia is ready to disown herself. Ventress: I didn't realize the Jedi were so incestuous Luke: war flashbacks to before he realized Leia was his sister
Ahsoka in the corner with Spacebucks, five years late "Y'all suck. Hey, Quin."
Sammie: I know you likely didn't bring up Quinlan thinking of QuinObi but now I'm imagining Quinlan declaring himself their grandpa when he meets the twins bc 1) he loves to cause chaos 2) he does/did consider Anakin his kid even if not in neat non Jedi terms and 3) Obi-Wan thought being considered Anakin's father made him sound old, and Quinlan needs to harass him beyond the grave
Dooku must have a cane that the ghosts heckle him about because He Clearly Wants To Be Just Like Yoda.
@lyntergalactic (Lyn) said:
I feel like evil gramps could really bring out Ahsoka's snark once she shows up and that would be highly entertaining Ahsoka is simultaneously his most and least favorite grandchild
She's the most experienced as a Jedi (Ventress went full Sith, not just leaving the Order but following the tenets like Ahsoka, and Quinlan isn't in the lineage), has never Fallen unless you count that thing on Mortis.
Also she WILL bitch Dooku out at this age, and honestly he kind of appreciates the brutal honesty.
Ahsoka: I'm not a Jedi. All the old people: Lies
She brings up the Hondo incident since nobody else is putting in the effort. Anakin and Obi-Wan COULD as ghosts but nooooooo she has to do everything around here.
Sammie: Oh but it sets them off so hard they can barely get the story off from laughing NGL I think the twins did not understand how truly annoying Obi-Wan and Anakin could be together until the Hondo story gets told.
They are The Worst.
#star wars#count dooku#luke skywalker#leia organa#asajj ventress#quinlan vos#quinobi#incest mention#(the canon incident)#quintress#obi wan kenobi#master yoda#anakin skywalker#force ghosts#phoenix posts
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Today I offer eepy morning Jiaoqiu!! (I wanted an excuse to put this pink foxboy in a comfy hanfu-)
#honkai star rail#hsr fanart#jiaoqiu#hsr#star rail jiaoqiu#digital art#husband wormās art#artists on tumblr#I feel robbed I feel like Hoyo could have fr given him a nice hanfu canonically šš#guys I swear heās just yawning- no sussy heizou bd art incident going on here
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How about Floyd, who came back as promised, hugging little Branch who just saw Grandma Rosiepuff get taken/eaten by the Bergen Chef?
Or how about Floyd, who came back as promised only to find the Troll Tree devoid of life and Rosiepuff's pod empty, going grey as he mourns baby Branch whom he thinks got eaten?
Hey so! Totally fun (and not hurtful at all) fact-!
For Trolls Band Together, the story the writers wanted to go with (according to the Artbook and novelization), implies that Brozone's disbandment happens before Bergen Town is even a thing, which has such severe implications to me.
so.
tfw you return to your home to find that
actually, the forest that sheltered you is eradicated, replaced with a giant town whose occupants' sole form of joy consists of devouring you.
the tree that served as your home is the only thing left of that forest, and it is decayed, withered, and desiccated... displayed in the middle of the town in a cage.
your pod, your home, is empty. every home around it is empty too. there are no trolls in sight.
as far as you know, everyone that used to be here is gone. or dead. most likely dead.
you will never see them ever again.
you were just a teenager.
#trolls#floyd#meadow-hearthfire#sandflakedrew#asks#u can pry this from my cold dead fingers#this is canon .. to Me specifically#because i'm a sucker for something that makes a thing Both Better And Also Sadder#in addition#the way i've been reconciling the general timeline is like so:#1. There was the Inciting Bergen-Ate-A-Troll Incident however many years ago - which fractured the pop trolls into smaller communities#2. The Bergens had indeed been eating pop trolls for generations complete with Trollstice#HOWEVER.#That had been amongst a moving Bergen settlement and those various pop troll populations#(<those groups have been eaten to extinction)#3. Therefore - Bergens were things our specific group of trolls were aware of at large - but one they had not yet experienced#4. It culminates with Bergen Town being the recent Settlement and the luck of Peppy's group running out.
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āØmechanisms character designs!!āØ
lyf gets to be blue because i said so
who else should i draw!!!!
#galahad my beloved#i read exactly one (1) fic where lyf had a tail & immediately decided that was canon#the mechanisms#the mechs#hnoc#galahad hnoc#high noon over camelot#lyfrassir edda#lyf tbi#the bifrost incident#rose red#once upon a time in space#ouatis#ouatis cinders#galahad slander is Not allowed thats my baby girl#short king rights abdkgkgkd#my art
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this idea still cracks me up so i figured i'd share it out into the world in a separate post playing ring toss with malleus' horns
(this originated from here in a reblog, thank you @fidenciothecryptidgent ajdklsjlaj)
#the incident was never brought up again#but yuu still attempts to do it from time to time#[āā¦-#-ā§ my art#-ā§ comic#twst art#twisted wonderland#twst#malleus draconia#twst oc x canon#malleus x yuu#twst yuu#twst yuusona#(š) yuuna#-ā¦ā]
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Prompt 217
Babies can die if they donāt have enough physical contact. This is something that is known, but Talia does not have time to spend with her twins, and itās not like she carried them thanks to the false Lazarus womb, so she didnāt even have that excuse to use.Ā
What she did have, was a near braindead teen who could be taught things through muscle memory.Ā
Which is how Jason ended up caring for a pair of toddlers between any training, even after his dip in the Pit. Well, he cared for them until he left for Gotham, to enact his plans, even if he continued to call them every week.Ā
But that wasnāt enough for little Damian and Danyal.
Where had their caretaker gone? Away from them? Where is Baba? Across the sea? Unacceptable. They will not stand for this!Ā
Which in turn, is how Jason discovers his the twins outside his safehouse window, having somehow made it to Gotham on their own- what the fuck, kids!?
#DCxDP#DPxDC#Prompts#Dad Hood#Jason canāt even go to a meeting without the kids clinging to him & are willing to cut off a hand or two#Theyāre even more ecto contaminated then the rest of the League of Assassins#Danny might not have all the powers he has in canon but heās still Liminal as Fuck#The bats when investigating Red Hood after the Duffle Bag Incident find out he has a pair of small children#Who are very clingy & who he is very protective of#Also who he speaks to in League Dialect- TALIA ANSWER YOUR PHONE#Itād be hilarious if Talia refers to Jason/Hood as OUR son & now Bruce is spiraling because WHAT DO U MEAN TALIA- DONāT HANG UP-#WHAT DO YOU MEAN OUR SON-
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a glimpse of what their early dynamic looks like
#i'm posting these in this blog first because i think its very silly#i could talk about them if you want me to#*ignores if you want to hear me or not and simply starts talking*#I think at some point during development i stopped thinking about them as 'mrs. afton and mr. afton'#it's funny knowing they were never supposed to meet at all#Ballora belongs to sister location. which takes place some time around 1983 or 1985 (Behind The Codes has its own canon timeline)#Fazbear's Fright happens in 2023. which is 30-40 years apart#but then we have Ultimate Custom Night. Everyone is trapped together in the same location seemingly with no chances of escaping.#if you think about it. they're just a part of this huge scrupulous plan#no one is predestined to anything. it's certainly not different for Springtrap and Ballora.#they are just... there. like everyone else#they are all linked in some way. all the clues tie back to the Missing Children Incident.#but... you're probably right. maybe there's more to it#maybe there is A Link rather than a link. you know what I mean?#Episode 3 will explore this and much more#for now. have these two idiots trying to figure out how to get out of trouble#behind the codes#fnaf#fnaf behind the codes#five nights at freddy's#ballora#springtrap#fnaf btc#my art#starbstalks
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Some past fiddlestan? (Like Ford just went through the portal. He gone now. Past. Yk?)
The mystery misery yaoi
#the angst potential is so juicy#I understand why it might not be everyone's cup of tea but I like the idea of them being so 'toxic' for each other (after the portal#incident. if they met before I think they'd be pretty healthy and wholesome)#like. Fidds is already kinda losing it because of the memory gun and Stan is grieving. they're not in a mental state for a relationship#Stan would hit him with his car by accident and then try to gaslight him that 'no that never happened you're imagining things'#and Fidds would be pretending that Stan is actually Ford or trying to use the memory gun on Stan to make him believe he IS Ford#or. my favorite yet. the one I have as 'canon' in my head. they end up in a messy relationship but Fidds thinks Stan is Ford#and in tge end Stan can't keep pretending and he ends things or something#there's also the more 'happy' versions. where Fidds is still sane enough to help Stan work on the portal. I'll make some fanart of it#at least of Fiddleford tending to his burn wound or something. for now take this little doodle (I thought it was funny but what do I know)#ask#not anon#gravity falls#stanley pines#stan pines#fiddleford mcgucket#fiddleford hadron mcgucket#fiddlestan#young fiddleford#young stan pines#young stanley pines#art#fanart#traditional art#misery yaoi#ignore all that it's late I'm tired I don't know what I'm writing
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Was going to write a little ficlet to go with this, but. Vaccine tiredness is killer.
A little bit of art for the FOP Nature au by @bunnieswithknives. I cannot recommend checking it out enough.
#art#my art#fop nature au#fop#fairly oddparents#fairly oddparents a new wish#fop a new wish#fopanw#fop dale#dale dimmadome#he deserves to die in a dimmaditch#body horror#blood#candy gore#Anyway the concept behind the ficlet was going to be basically about Bramble#(because im a dirty little bitch who shoves their oc where they don't belong)#setting up traps in the forest with the intention of not catching actual deer#but rather the rogue fairy disguised as a deer that the fairy council had warned her to be on the lookout for (aka Flowers)#The Council doesnt really give a shit about Bramble or her forest#they just want to make sure Flowers isn't COMPLETELY unsupervised after the Dale Incident#So anyway Bramble does catch something#and its certainly not a real deer#but he's pretty damn sure it isn't another fairy either#(idk why Dale would be in the forest I guess maybe he just went looking for Flowers to fix this and freaked out and got lost? idk)#Anyway none of that is actually canon to the au ofc it was just in my head#and it gave me an excuse to draw a fucked up deer man so like what else could I ask for
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Suddenly half-human
Danny was a full ghost hanging out in a random spot in the Zone when suddenly a rift in space tore open on top of him.
His very essence shifted as strange energies poured into him from a previously-unfathomable direction.
No longer pure ectoplasm. Something new, something living in a deeply foreign way.
A force suddenly pulled him to collide with cold, solid ground.
He felt different.
His whole body felt weighed down as if encased in thick rubber, preventing him from shapeshifting or even just floating up. Something thudded to life inside his chest, pumping a new fluid throughout his insides.
As he continued to lay there in shock, his chest began to burn.
Instincts he didnāt fully understood kicked in and his mouth flung open, gasping for breath. The burning subsided as his chest continued to heave.
What the hell? Since when did he need to breathe?
He heard three young, panicked voices from across the room. He flopped his head in their direction and took in their appearances semi-deliriously, still trying to pull his thoughts back together.
They were humans. Living, breathing humans. A tall redheaded girl, a boy in a beanie and glasses, and a girl in what he believed was referred to as āgothā clothes.
Waitā¦ was he human now?
Awkwardly clambering to his feet, leaning against the wall of the strange tunnel for balance, he tried to give them a grin. It probably came out a bit more unhinged than he intended.
āSo, uh, any idea what just happened?ā
#Danny was a full ghost half-revived by the Fenton Portal when it opened on top of him in the Zone#up to you if he was a human who died previously or an entity native to the zone#why did they activate the portal right then? idk. maybe Sam and Tucker are friends with Jazz?#or maybe they went over to the house for like an interview for a school project#well whatever the reason was they ended up in the basement and unknowingly hit the button#if you want the Fentons to still be his family maybe he spins a tale of being a human who was trapped in the zone until the portal freed him#and the Fentons then adopt him because he doesnāt have any other family and they have so many questions!!#danny phantom#dp#danny phantom au#dp au#danny phantom prompt#dp prompt#full ghost danny fenton#well. prior to the incident#after the incident heās the same as canon more or less:#halfa danny fenton#half ghost danny fenton
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pr*ship c*mship neutral etc dni/don't repost lol
#self ship#self ship meme#self shipping#selfship community#oc x canon#f/o community#safeship#.sillypost#i was gonna put real selfship drama incidents on that meme but remembered half those people r still in this community LOL
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David was in the car when Gabe died.
When David Shaw awoke after the crash the first thing he felt was his Dadās hands on him. Pushing magic into his core, healing him with everything he had within him. David looked into his Dadās eyes and saw the blood covering the side of his face. He saw his Dadās expression. That smile. That Gabriel Shaw smile. But in that moment it was not a smile of happiness, nor reassurance, but a smile of resignation. This smile was a goodbye.
The last thing David saw before he passed out once again was that smile, the last thing he felt was his fatherās hand on his cheek, and the last thing he heard was the gentle words of his Dad:
āItāll all be okay David, Iām here.ā
#happy fatherās day#redacted audio#redacted gabe#redacted david#idk how the incident went down so if thereās canon information someone let me know#angst headcanon
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Been mulling over Titans Tower and it's really interesting to me how it's treated in Fanon as compared to how the events transpired in canon. it's a really fun topic! Honestly, the original writing in canon is DOGSHITE but not for the usual reasons people cite.
Here's what does make sense in canon but is largely ignored (this is using canon characterisations at the time): First, it's all about the whole Titans team, not just Tim. They really downplay his death a lot, did not put up his statue or honour him whatsoever. Plus the hero community tends to victim-blame him a fuckton. Jason is showing that his death could've happened to anyone. Second, Tim and Jason are just two yearish apartāJay died at 15, Tim becomes Robin at 13āso those Titans are more like his colleagues than anything else; he's not some older guy beating the shit outta them. Third, Timās indifference to Jason's comments and his cockiness about being a better Robin are pretty on-brand for his early portrayal as Robin. (I think fanon Tim derives a lot of his characteristics from his Red Robin run, which is valid as well! But here in particular we have Robin Tim... who... was... uh... a bit of an asshole when he was written back then and the HUBRIS on that man? Immaculate.)
What still makes this absolutely dog shit is the dialogue and how Jason is pouring his heart out to someone who he doesn't really care about. Jason... just doesn't operate this way... Why's he trauma dumping on... tim... ???? It makes no sense whatsoever because Jason really is someone who'd keep those vulnerabilities to himself. Why would he open up to... CANON TIM??? He makes scathing remarks when faced with Bruce and Dick because he knows the knife twists then and at he cares about their reaction. But not tim ????? Canon UTRH doesn't even mention Tim ????? ???? So in the end it's still shit imo.
I also find the use of Pit Madness in fanon super interesting, despite it not being canon. It's used to propel the Titan's Tower incident, which fascinates me because it shows how people are willing to work around its flaws to maintain consistent characterization in their works (which is !!! cool !!)
It's so interesting how many other incidents that do occur in canon aren't as well known as this one aren't given much thought. But this one is and it's interesting how people try to work with it regardless of it's flaws originally!
I'd really love to hear your opinions about it and how flexible you are with the Titans tower incident! :) How do you work with your Jason and your Tim? because it's cool to hear your analysis etc etc
Hooo boi okay i was planning on replying to this earlier but this deserves a proper, thought out response (which Iām shite at but Iām trying here. Words are hard.)
For one, I wholeheartedly agree with the whole trauma dumping thing.
Obviously we all have different tastes in media and I know there are quite a few people who enjoyed the confrontation with Tim, which is totally fine, but personallyā¦ yeah, not my thing.
I got into the Batman/batfam fandom via fanfic, so my first introduction was some version of Titans Tower I believe. I was super intrigued by the characters and the tidbits of lore sprinkled throughout that I immediately began reading up on them and digging through the internet for more info and background story on them. Which then quickly evolved into the part where my adoration for Jasonās character began and a short phase where I absolutely despised early canon Tim.
Likeā all the victim blaming. He seriously couldnāt mention Jason without adding something derogatory about getting himself killed, which sat so, so wrong with me. Not to mention the Titans just accepting a new Robin right off the bat and joining in blaming Jason for his own death. Iām pretty sure that was the point where I swore off comics for a long while and decided to live off fanon š¤£
And then Jasonās part in the Titans Tower incident. I think part of how weird the canon event was is due in part to how the writers fumbled to depict trauma? Or maybe they just outright hated him because I know a lot of people back then despised Jason and his run as Robin.
Whatever the reason, I think I genuinely cringed when he revealed the Walmart Robin costume he was wearing. And then the trauma dumping.
Jason is smart enough to know Tim wouldnāt care about his grievances. I mean- dude just broke into his hideout to attack him, I think Timās about as done with Jason as with any other criminals, regardless of his past. And all that is proven by Tim fighting back tooth and nail without pause. He doesnāt even react to the accusation of the missing statue in Jasonās honor. Like, he genuinely doesnāt seem to care. And why would he? They donāt know each other.
And yeah maybe he was trying to beat some sense into Tim (which is still wrong butā vigilantes I guess? Idk) and make him quit Robin, but Jasonās also smart enough to know that Robins donāt quit easily. And then, as soon as Tim is down for the count and canāt keep fighting, Jason leaves. Just like that. No actual murder attempt, no kicking-while-heās-down (at least as far as I remember).
It makes no sense. What would Jason be gaining from that encounter? Why would he blame the kid that replaced him and not the guy that did the replacing? Hell, it would make more sense for him to go after the Titans than Tim. Not the mention him casually doubting Timās talents when he must have done some background checks on him.
Itās why I like the idea of Pit Madness I guess, and that Jason actually went to the tower with the intent to kill. Because that way the entire thing wouldnāt seem soā¦ pointless.
As for how flexible I am with the Titans Tower storyline, it really depends on the route people choose to explore. But Iām a huge sucker for the āJason was Timās Robinā trope where thereās at least a mild amount of hero worship going on. šļø Oh, and happy endings. I canāt deal with tragedies.
But yeah these are my thoughts on it. Obviously no hate to whoever enjoyed the comic mentioned above š weāve all got different things we resonate with after all~
#I wish I was more articulate in English but as much as I write fic my brain just BLANKS when I try to respond professionally in English#itās like āyou get to use metaphors but your vocab is void for argumentative convosā#Iām so sorry anon I swear I was trying very hard#I hope some of this is understandable on a deeper level#because I have FEELINGS on this topic#but mostly it boils down to me not being a fan of the canon titans tower incident#ghost talks#jason todd#titans tower incident#Tim drake#red hood#robin
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can i just say. and this is probably a niche hill to die on. that i am so gobsmacked every time someone vaguely hints at the idea that jotaro doesn't care meaningfully for the other crusaders, usually particularly kakyoin and joseph, when those two actually tend to be the ones he reacts to being hurt the hardest
like he cares for his loved ones!!!! that literally plays into his character motives in every single part he shows up in!!! stop lying to me!!!!!!!
#me.txt#jjba#i'm going to ramble in tags actually. excuse me#ok. rereading sdc and so confused at the general perception of jotaro and his friends/family. he's not NEARLY as flat or as dickish#i understand that the anime (particularly the dub) tends to slander him but even then he still clearly cares for them! i'm confused#i also understand that a lot of people dig against jotaro and kakyoin as a dynamic because 'they're popular' and that generally disliking#popular things across media is a thing that i've seen consistently everywhere but the discredit to them simply as a DUO and not even as a#pairing is so..... odd..... like they're considered to be a duo that clicks for a reason. i enjoyed them even before i got into the fandom#every time i see someone say jotaro is overrated/dull i take a shot and assume they're an anime-only or only read the manga like once btw#joseph and jotaro also have a neat dynamic and they obviously both love and care for each other. like they're not going to go around loudly#or anything but literally the entirety of the lovers and the prelude to the dio fight IS jotaro being worked up over joseph getting hurt#equally i don't know if it translates to the anime as much but joseph is VERY complimentary when it comes to jotaro. like he sings his#praises so often and reminds everyone that he's his grandson so frequently (d'arby the gamer is a good example of this). either way it's so#peculiar....... there's not enough avdol and jotaro content btw (also in canon) because jotaro obviously looks up to him and avdol jokes#around with him on the occasion they interact after their intro which doesn't start very well. it's very cute#i do think an important thing to note about jotaro's character is how he acts AFTER his intro because he's so drastically different. early#jotaro and later jotaro aren't the same character and i do not mean this in a character development way. excluding the jail incident he's#completely different and probably shouldn't really be taken into account (especially considering the amount of slapstick in araki's intros)#and i think that's really???? what people center on for his character? Which sucks balls bad!#anyways. i could ramble more about this if asked i have so much to say but sigh. jotaro cares so much for his friends and family he's not a#flat fully cold asshole character regardless of whether you watch the anime or ova or read the manga. you just have poor media literacy#i wouldn't recommend watching solely the anime for his character though. the dub also changes a lot so it's... questionable#i love the anime and it's still important for him though. also adds neat stuff. i need to stop myself. i have many thoughts on the matter#jotaro kujo#joseph joestar#noriaki kakyoin#adding in case anyone sees: i am not saying that he is perfect about this. in fact he is very ass about it with jolyne and holly and that's#very important. he also is in fact an asshole sometimes. NOT as much as you guys are making him though!#please don't get me started on how much of a dick etc people make kakyoin to veer away from the 'woobified' characterizations of him#in fact i think that's bad if not worse because it CLAIMS to be in character. hes a prim asshole at times but not that angry or dishevelled
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