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The Spider Target By Dan Martins, a character designer and illustrator
#spiderverse#atsv#Across The Spiderverse#Across The Spider-Verse#spiderman#spider man#miles morales#gwen stacy#miguel o’hara#2099#jessica drew#pavitr prabhakar#hobie brown#peter parker#Peter B Parker#art#poster#also for your own sanity do NOT read the human target by Tom King#It’s… bad#the Art is good though
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summer treats 🌞🍦
#across the spiderverse#artists on tumblr#illustration#miles morales#gwen stacy#pavitr prabhakar#miguel o'hara#hobie brown#peter b parker#mayday parker#remember when everyone hung out and was friends with each other and nothing bad happened :)
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Miles thinks they found a variant.
Edit: follow-up
#Inspired by seeing fan art of miguel manhandling meows morales and wondering what the other way around would look like#Miles is bad at holding animals and babies#i didnt realize until later that i basically gave him garfield colors#Absolute unit of a cat#oh lawd he comin#my art#across the spiderverse#atsv fanart#miles morales#Cat#spider gwen#spider woman#gwen stacy#ultimate spider man#spider man#Meowgel o’hara#Cat miguel#miguel o'hara#atsv miguel#atsv miles#atsv gwen#spider man: across the spider verse#spider man across the spider verse#spiderman across the spiderverse#across the spider verse#spiderman 2099
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no but really let’s talk about the dynamic between the older gen spideys vs young gen spideys for a moment, because it’s really got me fucked up.
miguel and all the older gen spideys seem so entirely accepting of all these “canon compliant” rules, because those rules absolutely validate the trauma that every one of them has gone through. the idea of “oh our pain had a reason, oh our heartbreak was for something after all” is a VERY powerful notion that—understandably—they welcome with open arms because they have already lived it.
but the younger gen spideys…. yes, most of them have bought into miguel’s logic for most of the movie, because of course you’re going to listen to the 1,000,000 adults all telling you the same thing when you’re fucking fifteen and desperate for any semblance of mentorship. and it sure does make a lot more sense when you yourself have also experienced a similar trauma to all the others.
but that’s exactly it, isn’t it? they’ve all experienced the same trauma—
that miles and pav have not.
so, no. actually, fuck your rules. and really, fuck your demands that i must suffer what you suffered just because you cannot accept me without it. and good on miles for saying it—good for all of the spideys who realized he was right—realized he was asking all the right questions instead of drawing all the wrong conclusions.
(yet. for all my anger i feel towards the older gen for pressuring him in that way….i also understand why they cling so desperately to these stupid “canon” rules. because, if miles can manage to resist it—if he or gwen or pav can escape what they never could—then suddenly, they have to ask the question of:
“what didn’t i do right?”
and
“was all that pain really for nothing?”
and accepting your life after having to ask those questions instantly becomes much more difficult.)
#and isn’t that all the perfect representation of the divide between generations in reality?#anyways fuck miguel#miguel hater to the day i die#not bc he’s a bad person#just because he was mean af to my baby boy miles and i will never forgive that#spider man across the spiderverse spoilers#spider-man atsv spoilers#miles morales#gwen stacy#pavitr prabhakar#hobie brown
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miles saying ass, gwen saying hell, miguel saying fuck in spanish… LET THEM SWEAR
LET MILES MORALES SAY FUCK
#i forgot but gwen’s dad says ass too#and a character (miles?) saying damn (not a swear word but it’s a bad word for pg stuff)#ik it would change the pg rating but#IT WOULD BE SO MUCH FUNNIER IF THEY WERE ALLOWED SOME SWEARS#after all miles has been thru let him say it !!#as a treat#also i don’t actually know spanish but a lot of ppl have been saying he said a rlly bad swear word in spanish#spider man#spider man across the spider verse#spider man into the spider verse#across the spiderverse#into the spider verse#miles morales#gwen stacy#miguel o'hara
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Is there a Gwen Stacy in this universe?
Thank you so much!!! <3 <3
Gwen does exist...and she's ALIVE. She also hates the idea of some masked vigilante out here being judge, jury and executioner. Her current goal is to find, unmask and bring 'Spiderman' to justice.
As a tradeoff, unfortunately, neither Uncle Ben nor Aunt May exist. (He looked. The entire Parker line is gone). But maybe that's for the best.
#spiderman#hunting!spider#peter parker#local(???) man has absolute breakdown in broom closet more at 5#gwen stacy#Peter like “I was the bad variable in everyone's lives”#angst angst angst
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I JUST OPENED THE APP BRO💀
#🪽— angel’s spam#WHAT AM I LOOKIN AT 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭#GAGGED.#donald trump#donald trump mugshot#astv#astv hobie#astv miguel#astv gwen#astv miles#across the spiderverse#donald trump indicted#why he tryna serve face so bad in his mugshot#spider man: across the spider verse#hobie brown#miles morales#gwen stacy#miguel o'hara
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(Like or reblog if you wanna use)
#also read the “shit on her for no reason” as misogyny#it might come as a surprise but in order to write interesting female characters you gotta give them negative traits#ngl there are times when even writes do them dirty#but a)you can always write headcanons and “fix-it” fics.that’s what fandom is known for#and b)considering how some ignore the aspect of bad writing and continue blaming the woman characters-#-even though they aren’t real#-makes it seem like they just enjoy projecting their shit with no consequences#shower thoughts#meme#arcane#mel medarda#<= im not mildly interested but rather obsessed with her actually#but she still applies#gf mabel#tfp miko#avatar korra#atsv gwen#gwen stacy#spider gwen#ghost spider#idk i probably forgot some but oh well#mia winters
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I hate you mfs that don't like Gwen after across the spider verse it smells like misogyny
#i liked her MORE after atsv#like yeah she needs to apologize to miles duh#but why is she not allowed to make mistakes without being villanized#ive heard more people talk about how bad gwen is than fucking Miguel#shes CLEARLY being influenced if not manipulated by Miguel and jess#shes only doing those things because she wants to PROTECT miles#she doesnt want what Miguel is saying to be true#like yall im p sure she fully accepted that her dad was going to die#they had to have said some shit to make her accept that#and at the end shes trying to right her wrongs#shes become such a more nuanced character than she was in the first movie#why are you guys fucking stupid#AND shes trans shes literally amazing#gwen stacy#spiderverse#spider man across the spider verse#across the spiderverse#spider gwen#marvel
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I guess maybe that’s why I’m lying to my therapist
I keep saying things like, “I never saw him and we never kissed”
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more stacy cuddy nonsense
#they barely pass the bechdel test#yet they wanna kiss so bad#house md#lisa cuddy#stacy warner#egonk art
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Petey's Spider Experience
#tumblr im so sorry i have neglected you i just discovered mutual interacting on twitter#the image quality of my posts suck ass there though#like. my stuff looks legitimately bad on twitter. fuck u muskrat forever and ever </33#atsv#across the spiderverse#spiderman#spiderman across the spiderverse#spiderverse#peter parker#peter b parker#miles morales#spider gwen#gwen stacy#ghost spider#spiderman 2099#miguel o'hara#my art#willy's chocolate experience#glasgow willy wonka experience
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you know i'm kind of obsessed with the tragedy of gwen stacy in the tasm movies because she's - she's such an interesting, tragic creature. we get into it a little in tasm1, that. you know, her father is a police captain - you know, authoritative. incredibly protective of her.
and looking at it, gwen is constantly the victim of men deciding what's best for her. her father decides it's best for her that she stay away from peter. peter decides it's best too, obviously, even though it hurts. it's not a question of what gwen wants.
thinking of the scene in tasm where gwen confides in peter, as she's cleaning his wounds, that she knows what this is - every day she sees her father strap a badge to his chest and she doesn't know if he's going to make it home or not.
gwen's powerless - she has these men in her life that she loves that are constantly making dangerous decisions that put their own lives in danger, and she's constantly expected to sit by passively and do nothing and pray for them to get home safely. like her own desires don't matter. she wants them to be there, she wants to have a say in what these men do, because she loves them and they're important to her. but she has no power. she knows that what they're doing is noble and good for the world, but she is sidelined and never listened to. she has no superpowers, no badge, and no say in the matter.
and her father gets killed. doing something stupid and heroic. and she wasn't involved, and she was powerless to prevent it. and even still, after his death, he's trying to push gwen out of the way of danger. strip her of agency in her own life. she can't be with peter. she doesn't get a say in the matter.
of course that doesn't work out, and peter and gwen wind up back together - but peter is eaten up with guilt, and still thinks he shouldn't be with gwen because gwen is safer without him, yadda yadda, and gwen is sick of it. gwen is sick of men dictating what becomes of her. what she can and can't have. where she should and shouldn't be. so.
i always made fun of this bit of script - it's so, so funny.
"i break up with you peter. i break up with you."
i make fun of it all the time, but i get it. i get why it's written this way. the tasm2 script isn't subtle. gwen is pointedly telling peter that she is calling the shots. peter cannot dictate her fate. this is her choice. she breaks up with him. she is the one with power in this dynamic. she is taking the power. she is not his damsel that needs protecting. she is allowed to tell peter what she wants, and make her own decision about what's best for her.
cut to the end, where peter webs gwen to a car. he wants her out of the line of fire. even though she's proven she's helpful and capable, more so than peter. peter wants her out of harms way, so that he can do something heroic and dangerous.
gwen is SICK of it!! she's going to be heroic and dangerous too. if these men can throw themselves into the line of fire with little care for the people they leave watching helplessly in the rafters than, by god, gwen can do it too. she's not going to watch helplessly as peter fights his battle on his horse, dick swinging, swords drawn. and she's not going to passively sit by as peter gets himself killed because actually, peter's not as smart as he thinks he is.
he's just stupid enough to take the hits and scrape himself off the pavement afterwards. gwen is the one with the plan. and if gwen weren't there, peter might not have been able to pull everything off. he probably would've eventually taken them down in the end, but he would've definitely taken more of a beating, and more property damage, and potentially, more civilian casualties. it was a good thing gwen was there. female excellence. it's not always about who can take a hit.
of course, in the end up - gwen winds up in peril, and no. she doesn't have powers that can save her. and, these men who try and do everything to protect her - they're fallible. but it was her choice. her choice to do the heroic thing, despite her fragility. her choice to step into the line of fire, without super-strength or spider-reflexes. and i think it's a poetic, heroic way to go.
one thing though, that i feel is mismanaged, almost infuriatingly so – is how underdelivered on gwen's death as a heroic gesture. in the end it becomes more about peter's guilt than it does about gwen's sacrifice. because they still wanted to have the iconic "fall" scene from the comics. so, in the end, gwen becomes powerless. she's mid fall. she can't do anything. she has to wait for peter to save her, in the end.
it's infuriating because captain stacy's death is unfalteringly heroic. he dies to save peter.
gwen puts herself in the line of fire to save peter. in the same way her father did. but she's robbed of the heroic framing her father gets because in the end, she has to be saved. in the end, it isn't framed like she saved peter. it's framed like peter failed to save her.
so we get a peter parker pity party instead of actually, what should be a beautiful, heroic send-off for gwen stacy, who became a hero despite every man trying to sideline her.
tl;dr tasm gwen deserved the same heroic framing her father got but hollywood messed up again because they don't know how to do female hero stories
#sci talks movies#gwen stacy#sorry. i think about this a lot.#on paper i think tasm2 is really interesting. ON PAPER.#there's really so much food there. but it's such a bad movie.#but it made me start the blog so what hey.#i think about it a lot. i could do so many video essays about tasm2.
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Still getting comfortable with the new program 🫠
#sorry for the bad quality this was taken on my phone#Jacob Seed manspreading lives rent free in my mind#far cry 5#jacob seed#staci pratt#far cry#far cry fanart#jacob seed x staci pratt#rancid cultist falls for local feral cop#jacob seed/staci pratt
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Is it just me but Gwen feels like she PC games. Like she looks like it.
And NO this isn't just the trans girl undercut PC gamer blue hair with pronouns trope talking she just strikes me as someone who would enjoy playing Stardew Valley and Overwatch at 3:00am to escape thoughts of The Horrors
Either that or religiously watching streamers do such while she's wrapped up in a blanket burrito.
Gwen seems like the type to start referencing 'chat' irl. Hobie shows her and Pavitr something cool and she reflexively goes 'Holy crap! Chat, is this real?' and Pavitr is like 'Who is this Chat person you keep mentioning? Gwen, it's just us here. Is Chat even real 😭'
I don't even know who Jerma is but whoever he is and whatever he does I'm sure Gwen Stacy is an avid fan
Iconic girl gamer gamer girl vibes am I the only one who sees this or is this just a thing we all silently know
#unless hes a bad person I genuinely can't tell#I'm really don't understand him 😭#spiderman#atsv#spider man#marvel#across the spiderverse#gwen stacy#spider gwen#spidergwen#ghost spider#ghostspider#spiderwoman#spider woman
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