#(also no pressure to the ppl i tagged Obviously)

[muninnhuginn]

This is probably my favourite panel in the last few chapters of Rebirth tbh (yes, including the time/mirror aesthetics) just because of the impact.

You know that comic with the crows where one asks the other if they think they're friends in another universe and then you zoom out and see all these other timelines where they're always a part of each other's life? It's the complete opposite of that. So many different timelines and not a single one where his mother loved him.

[valleyyofthemoonnn]

thank you for the tag @girlgregcoded noah my good friend noah

last song i listened to : Heaven by mitski (its so good this new album will Murder me kill me alive)

currently reading : mythos by stephen fry !!!!

currently watching : new girl ….. its silly and i need an escape ok

current obsessions : the locked tomb brainrot is still going strong i fear …❤️ Also . various minecraft rp and creators but that’s a Constant .

i tag : errmm @cowboys1million @spiritorbb @slytheo hope i haven’t bothered u kiss kiss

[badcountryofficial]

"Maybe you believe deep down that no one will ever be able or even willing to meet your needs.. :-(" yeah haha maybe. Maybe NOT so deep down lol

[aroaceofthesea]

hardcover or paperback // bookstore or library // bookmark or receipt (i remember the page numbers too) // stand alone or series // nonfiction or fiction // thriller or fantasy // under 300 pages or over 300 pages or the exact number of pages needed and no more or less // children's or ya (i guess?) // friends to lovers or enemies to lovers (friends to friends🔝)// read in bed or read on the couch or anywhere // read at night or in the morning or anytime // keep pristine or markup // cracked spine or dog ear

@karkod @yoihino @hopping-shrub @skywalkersan @thatdamneddame @ironpaladont @peachinfusedtea @angrycatlovesfandoms @no-passaran

Thank you @why-the-heck-not for tagging me :)

hardcover or paperback // bookstore or library // bookmark or receipt // stand alone or series // nonfiction or fiction // thriller or fantasy // under 300 pages or over 300 pages or the exact number of pages needed and no more or less // children's or ya // friends to lovers or enemies to lovers // read in bed or read on the couch or anywhere // read at night or in the morning or anytime // keep pristine or markup (depends!) // cracked spine or dog ear

Free tag for anyone who wants to join!

[beartitled]

Can you do some more comics with Francis mosses

I can, but the problem is

That I’m pretty much out of ideas and I’m progressively getting tired of tnmn fandom

Ppl who look at my tags probably noticed that 😓

More of my thoughts under read more for curious ppl

(short answer maybe I will do more, but I desperately need a break from tnmn)

! Just a general warning: this came out kinda long + sort of venty

Originally I planned to do 1 comic drop and move on, but got stuck bc ppl liked tnmn comics and kept asking for more (and still do-)

Generally I don’t mind doing more if the ideas are there, but I want to address this: I’m tired

I know blowing up is usually a good thing and I appreciate people enjoying my stuff

But it’s exhausting to see that tnmn is the only type of content which is relevant, to the point that my own projects or stuff I enjoy are just kinda.. ignored

It’s fair – again my blog is heavily fandom based

(+Tsp were and still is kinda the focus)

But with tnmn fandom it’s a bit… different

Maybe I’m biased and it’s just my negative experience with tiktok comments

Remember this art?

cleaning up transphobic comments was.. um tough

Again, I get that you can’t be in that neat bubble completely sheltered from negativity

Humans are just assholes by nature really/j

So I was expecting the backlash, but not that much

I think maybe tsp fandom spoiled me a bit (in a good way), bc I got a feeling that everyone in tsp was positive of any lgbt+ headcanons and just generally more supportive

(don’t get me wrong, there ARE problems in tsp community too, taking narrators design controversy into account as one of the examples)

Obviously every fandom always has it’s own issues, show me at least one fandom that didn’t have some sort of meaningless controversy or some sort of problematic people in it

It happens

But it leaves a bad taste in your mouth sometimes

And for me personally it only added to not so pleasant experience

The thing I also noticed, when I interacted with other fandoms

Ppl wrote positive stuff first and foremost, not really asking for anything

Here it’s just “hey more. I want more. Do more. Do this character. Do this. Do more.”

The only reason I kept doing more, because likes, reblogs, views – these comics get a ton of attention

there is a audience to please alright

But this thing comes with a pressure tho

and it shows

so let me illustrate

This bookcase

Is my shame

Because I was so rushing, I just copied and colour corrected this bookcase from my diploma comic and pasted it here in hopes for the best

💥IT LOOKS HORRIBLE OKAY💥

Usually it’s normal to take materials used in other projects

the not so normal part is

to leave it like that because your stress reducing tea doesn’t work and you don’t really have time to redraw it

my m en ta l s t a t e i s f i n e ah ah h ah ah

Ok but jokes aside: it’s really tempting, to just abandon everything and produce content like some sort of content farm

But I don’t want to, I’m forcing myself and it makes my art worse

Yes it’s subtle, new people won’t even see this

But I’m not improving

And I don’t enjoy just anxiously popping out comics because everyone keeps asking

I can give it my all to something when I’m passionate, but just “hey I’m getting attention” is not the best motivator

Attention like that does get to my head, I know that I will probably give in again and do more, bc I will compare my posts engagement

But what’s the point of recognition, when you feel.. so numb about it…

Sorry for a mountain of text and thank you for ppl who actually took their time to read it

It’s been building up for a while and I feel like people need to know the reason why I’m not so enthusiastic about making “more”

I’m not necessarily completely abandoning this fandom

I still plan to do ask/suggestions event for STP (I’m just making sure I can dedicate my time to it, that’s why it’s taking so long) and I can add tnmn to the mix

Like STP+tnmn kind of deal

But for now – I need a break

At least for a little bit

[muirmarie]

wip list tag tag - ty for the tag @margottrek & @fexalted!

rules: make a new post with the names of all the files in your WIP folder, regardless of how non-descriptive or ridiculous. let people send you an ask with the title that most intrigues them, and then post a little snippet or tell them something about it! and then tag as many people as you have WIPs

i only title things properly when the fic is finished and titled and re-saved in my finished folder lmao, so, uh, sorry about this lmao

these are all ~active wips, but i kind of rotate through working on them? but it's not like my planning posts where i just have a few notes, these are all in some state of being written. back, bb, and too warm are the ones i've mostly been focusing on the last week or two. is this too many to include? too late i am doing it anyway, it's fine, idc

mcspirk back

mcspirk bb

mcspirk brekkie

mcspirk harvest

mcspirk hear thoughts

mcspirk jealousy

mcspirk joanna not his

mcspirk lab spock frisky

mcspirk magical healing

mcspirk mirror fallout au

mcspirk one bed

mcspirk plato's stepchildren au

mcspirk ropes

mcspirk sex injuries aka lying liars

mcspirk tentacles

mcspirk time loop sequel

mcspirk too warm

mcspirk vulnerable operation annihilate

spones saliva coagulate hm

as a bonus i can tell you the idea i've had swimming around in my brain since i got off work that i do not know if i will ever write but that i am Thinking Strongly About lmao

no pressure tagging:

@princesssarcastia, @the-magpieprince, @becausethathappens, @aerialworms, @laurenthemself, @destiel-wings, @thegeminisage, @offdensen

also, like. i tried to look and i think a lot of ppl who i know write fic have already been tagged, but i know how much it sucks to want to do a thing and not get tagged, so like. obviously you can consider this is a general tag, BUT you also can just msg me and i will 100% tag you properly as well! <3

[enden-k]

this bothered me for a few days now but i didnt want to comment on it but just now was the last straw (i blocked that person bc they rlly got onto my nerves there for this) but yea maybe i should say that

1) personally i find it incredibly rude and hurtful to comment on someones OCs how they look like whatever mf from some show u dont know about. like seriously, call me childish if you want but this makes me seriously angry and i know some other artists who also are no big fan of this

dont compare someones OCs to other characters. some artists rlly dont like that

2) maybe dont follow me when youre not interested in shippy stuff bc i very obviously draw character ships and i self ship so 90% of my blog is all about ships n boats. you can follow who you want ofc but if this makes you comment the dumbest mindless stuff then maybe stick to what you like or genuinely interests you

also its still confusing to me (bc they started their comment exactly like that) but if you start a sentence with "this is prob the worst thing to say-" on someones art, maybe consider keeping it to yourself. if you are aware its bad or rude or uncalled for to say then. keep it to yourself

oh and while im already ranting, this was someone else who did this and not this person but

3) DONT contact me in private chats to spam me w several message over time -to make sure i read the second message in case i didnt read the first ones- to PLS draw zhong///////chi again just bc YOU love this ship so. this is exactly the reason why i dont look at my dms on here anymore (sorry for ignoring some ppl who are not at fault, im just uncomfortable atp) and also why i lit am so damn tired of zc that i blocked the tag everywhere bc i just feel incredibly bothered and pressured

anyway sorry for ranting, i usually ignore this but all this bothered me sm it rlly gave me bad mood

just, please think before you speak or interact with strangers

[ourflagmeansgayrights]

yeah my tl;dr opinion on the second billboard is that it’s gonna have very little impact on making us more visible and probably very little direct impact on our chances of getting renewed, but if it makes some ppl feel like they’re doing something then i don’t rlly care bc it’s not my money. that being said, i’m a little worried that the second billboard might end up hurting the general ofmd fandom’s morale more than helping.

elaboration under the cut bc this shit got long

so the ofmd fandom has already caught the attention of the media, we have new articles being written about us pretty frequently. hbo/wbd is also facing a lot of public backlash for their continuous cancellation of tv shows, especially diverse shows, AND they are specifically getting a lot of shit abt refusing to sell coyote v acme. they have a lot of money to gain via tax write-offs from shelving thay movie and refusing to sell, but refusing to sell ofmd isn’t gonna make them that kind of money. so public pressure + financial incentive combined, there’s a pretty good chance of wbd selling ofmd to another studio.

ironing out a deal with netflix/apple tv/amazon+ is gonna take time tho. from a fandom perspective, it’s already been be a very long, very demoralizing waiting game, and personally i would be surprised if we’re even halfway through it.

so there are two things at play when it comes to the fandom giving djenks et al the best chance of securing the best deal for this show: maintaining visibility and maintaining fandom morale. obviously visibility is more directly affecting the negotiations, but morale is important in keeping as many ppl in the fandom active as we can during this gravy basket of a waiting period.

so the question is, how does the second billboard serve those goals? will it maintain or increase our visibility? will it boost fandom morale?

before i get into the second billboard tho, i wanna talk abt the first billboard.

i think we can all agree that the nyt billboard boosted morale: cast and crew were posting about it, djenks shared a selfie in front of it, the energy on ofmdtwt and in discord servers and here on tumblr was very hopeful and excited. it was an emotional high point that i think we’re all kinda missing as the weeks drag on and we approach the two-month mark since the cancellation.

but did the nyt billboard increase or maintain our visibility? more specifically, did it increase or maintain our visibility to a degree that was proportionate to the amount of money spent?

i’ll be honest, i don’t know the answer to that one. i don’t know much about advertising or about tracking ROI for things like billboards and flyover banners. i think, though, that any significant increase in visibility came not from the billboard itself, but from the social media response to the billboard. the excitement of seeing cast and crew talking abt the billboard had us all hyped up and posting/tweeting in our excitement, and that got us trending. the livestream of the billboard probably had an increase in viewership, which i’m sure is something that gets tracked somewhere. and i’m also sure wbd execs were aware of the billboard, and djenks tagging netflix, apple, and amazon means those executives were definitely made aware of it, too

but i’m doubtful abt how much the nyt billboard raised our visibility outside of a few ppl in the streaming/entertainment industry and outside of the ofmd fandom. there were already articles being written about us by that point—did any publications decide to write more articles abt the renewal campaign directly because of the billboard? did the campaign for s3 reach the general public? did site traffic to the petition actually increase? did anyone on the streets of new york or LA actually follow the link/qr code/whatever to learn more about what was being advertised?

on twitter, at least one person who had been supportive of the renewal efforts and who claimed to have relevant industry experience said that the return-on-investment from the billboard/truck/flyover was shockingly small, meaning that for the amount of money that was spent, we should have received more site traffic, more social media buzz, more mainstream awareness than what we got. this is not me saying the ofmd fandom was scammed—the people who donated money were told what the money was going to be used for, and the money was used exactly as promised. but the criticism was that if the goal was to increase our visibility, perhaps the money could’ve been spent differently.

so that’s the nyt billboard: successful at raising morale, unclear exactly how effective it was at increasing visibility. now for the london billboard, located on the vue cinema on leicester square

first, a few things about the site of the london billboard: the ad space being purchased is not, as i have seen claimed, on a hugely iconic billboard and venue. arguably, it is not even located on leicester square. the giant billboard is on a budget movie theater that is right off the corner of leicester square. people have been confusing the vue theater with the odeon theater, which is an iconic landmark in the middle of leicester square where movie premiers happen and where many tourists stop to take pictures. from what i’ve seen (and heard from various uk fans), the foot traffic by the vue theater is not really comparable to the foot traffic at the location of the first billboard.

so, billboard 2 and visibility. the question of if this billboard increases visibility of the campaign, whether that be via successfully advertising to the people walking by or via generating social media buzz.

the thing with the foot traffic issue is i’m honestly not sure how much of a boon the high amount of foot traffic was to the first billboard. bc honestly, how many pedestrians pay attention to billboards enough to actually check out the thing that’s being advertised? probably not very many, hence why there was criticisms that the billboard yielded a low ROI. if there was any increase in our visibility externally (by which i mean, not within studios or within the industry, and not within the fandom and other ppl already aware of the existence of the renewal campaign), it most likely came primarily from articles and social media buzz.

i personally am doubtful that the second billboard is gonna generate the same kind of attention online. the location is less flashy than the first one, david jenkins probably isn’t gonna fly over to london to take a selfie with it, and simply the fact that it’s a second billboard is gonna decrease the energy in how ppl respond to it. like, we already did this in a very famous tourist location. now we’re doing it again, only it’s around the corner from a different, slightly less famous tourist location. the surprise and excitement we saw from the cast and crew will inherently be lessened when we pull the same trick twice. that might also extend to media coverage—how many times do we think journalists are gonna cover the same media stunt pulled by the same general group of people? there is a possibility that the answer to that is only once.

but, to be fair, i did say that visibility was only one part of the equation. the other important thing was morale and keeping the fandom’s energy up, something that is going to get harder and harder the more time passes without us hearing any news.

a second billboard is definitely one way of tackling that issue. fans can meet up at the billboard, post selfies with it, hang out. it’s kind of a cool thing, to see a huge sign on a billboard and know that it was a bunch of passionate fans put it there. and we already know that the first billboard had everyone pumped. more than increasing visibility, maybe this is the primary goal of the second billboard: to hype up the fandom.

i worry, though, that it’s not going to hype up the fandom in the way people are hoping for. like i said, i doubt we’re going to see the same outpouring of excitement from cast and crew that we did the first time around—even already some of the actors have said to the fandom that it’s not worth it for us to spend our money this way. and even within the wider ofmd fandom itself, i would not be surprised if fans just aren’t as excited by this second billboard simply because it’s the second billboard. already, it seems to me like ofmd fans who aren’t directly contributing to the renewal campaign aren’t responding as enthusiastically to this billboard as they did the first one—there’s a question of why it’s necessary, what it’s going to accomplish. so a less encouraging response to this billboard might make a lot of people feel disheartened, disappointed.

and christ, that’s not even mentioning the fact that that almost every time this fandom is trending, there’s a wave of “ofmd fans kys” sentiment that is quick to follow. i have long ago accepted that suicide baiting as a regular part of my internet experience, but most people have not (and frankly, they shouldn’t). a lot of people just will stop posting about ofmd if they get attacked for doing so. if that happens, it is 100% going to negatively impact the renewal campaign and our chances of getting picked up by a different studio.

even if none of this happens, even if the morale is boosted tenfold by the new billboard, i just feel like there are other ways to keep the energy up without crowdfunding ridiculous amounts of money. we already have samba gradually doling out bts content in tiny doses and catapulting us through the roof with each one. i’m also a fan of what AdoptOurCrew is doing on twitter, sharing articles and info and coming up with silly little games to play with their followers. it’s not a huge stunt like a billboard, and it’s not gonna get us on the front page of a huge pop culture publication, but we already have a pretty consistent stream coming in of articles mentioning ofmd and the renewal effort. also, yes, what aoc is doing is not the huge adrenaline high of the nyt billboard, but this is gonna be a marathon, not a sprint. there are a lot of ofmd fans, so if we just keep the general fandom feeling reasonably good abt posting ofmd content, that’s more than enough to keep our online presence consistent enough that studios will know we’re invested in that s3. but if we keep chasing highs we’re gonna burn out fast—at the very least just bc ppl are gonna run out of cash.

that’s what my concern comes down to, really: the money. because to me, the use of actual real-world money should go towards boosting visibility, and boosting morale can come from simply engaging in the fandom, doing fun projects, spreading positivity. and i am very, very doubtful that this second billboard is going to increase the show’s visibility to people who aren’t already aware of ofmd and what’s going on with the renewal. i understand that the idea was to capitalize on s2 airing on the bbc–a good idea, but if the intention is to reach this new audience, shouldn’t the ads should go somewhere they’re going to be more visible, more inescapable? the underground would’ve been a good choice, imo, bc the cell service down there sucks and ppl have no choice but to stare at the walls while they wait for the train. but this might have been less effective at boosting morale, because it’s less flashy and a significantly worse place for fans to meet up. so it’s about what the priority is here: is the money primarily for boosting morale, or boosting visibility?

like i said, i think prioritizing morale-boosting is the wrong choice. and even if that wasn’t the intention, i think that’s the only thing that’s gonna be affected in any way by the billboard. but like, that’s why i didn’t donate to the crowdfunding for this billboard (or to the first one tbh). bc ppl can spend their money however they want, even if i think it’s a waste. currently the average donation to the SaveOFMD ko-fi is abt £34, or $40. i’m not gonna get that worked up over a few hundred strangers online spending $40 for something i think is a waste. ppl spend all sorts of money on stuff i think is a waste. who cares.

if everything backfires and the billboard ends up hurting the renewal campaign then… idk. i hope if it blows up into drama that the drama gets to be funny, at least.

[ladylightning]

i had a few beloved mutuals tag me in this (tysm @evermqres @casboobs @letterlimerence) so i'm just making a new one here!!! love you guys!!!

 3 ships: this is literally SO HARD ok off the top of my head obviously destiel (spn), ned and chuck (pushing daisies), hollstein (carmilla)

first ever ship: idk maybe percabeth? was not super invested in "shipping" per say until destiel but i did love their dynamic

last song: scott street by phoebe bridgers

last movie: adventureland

currently reading: dnf'd a ton this summer idk why, trying to finish up nine pints by rose george, up next is a reread of white oleander by janet fitch (this is my all time fave, let's see if that's still true upon reread)

currently watching: forever rewatching supernatural on a perma-loop (s12 rn) just finished my yearly rewatch of gravity falls, also need to catch up on wwdits.

currently consuming: water (stay hydrated!!!)

currently craving: the answer is always chocolate. particularly obsessed with gansitos as of late!

people i’d like to get to know better in no particular order no pressure tags: @chrispineofficial @pinkdean @naomisofficelighting @samrubygf @spiritmunie @deansflipphone @not-roman-and-not-a-god and anyone else who wants to!

tried not to tag ppl who have been tagged already in the other versions but everyone is welcome to jump on! love you!

[zombiethingy]

Last Sentence Tag Game!

Rules: share the last sentence you wrote, then tag as many ppl as there are words (or as many ppl as you want).

I was tagged by @thetragicallynerdy and @griefabyss69 so here's one sentence for each of you 💜

"Thanks," he smiles at Steve, "much better. Now I'm comfy."

Obviously I'm tagging you back again: @thetragicallynerdy and @griefabyss69 😏

And also tagging @ozais-lobotomist @hammity-hammer and @ao3usermelancholyhues (no pressure obviously!)

[wolfgangevenstar]

get to know you!

thanks for the tag @bubblegumflavor and @miyagi-hokarate !!

-> Last Song I Listened To: “Snow (Hey Oh)” by the Red Hot Chili Peppers

-> Currently Reading: “Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes” (i tend to be a slow reader so it’s taking me a while lol)

-> Currently Watching: doing a re watch of Cobra Kai rn! I’ve also been trying to watch the new live action ATLA but it’s slow going 😅 also also i’ve been watching a lot of Seinfeld lately (kramer speaks to me on a spiritual level ok)

-> Currently Obsessed With: TKK/CK obviously, that’s been my main focus for a while now i’m actually surprised it’s lasted this long. Other than that i’ve been pretty into the Hunger Games, and i’m pretty much always at least a little bit obsessed with Lord of the Rings

tagging (no pressure ofc): @yallwildinrn @zannolin @zappedbyzabka @landslided @eightyfours @purty-pumpkin @soobiesworld @gondorsfinest @karatehusbandos @corroded-coffin @variousqueerthings (tried to think of ppl who i haven’t seen already been tagged, but i could be wrong abt some)

[rainknow]

i was tagged by @fauna-and-floraa to post my lock screen, home screen, first picture on Pinterest, and the last song I listened to ^.^

I haven't changed my wallpapers in a long time, also me and pinterest have a good relationship obviously she knows me well

idk if u ppl been tagged or not but I'll tag @burntstay @qazastra and @rhyperographer and anyone else who wants to do it :p also no pressure of course

[komero-otus]

Get To Know Me Tag Game

aaaaa I was tagged by @t00obsessed !!! thank you!!!<3

Last song: Disease by Lady Gaga (it's a banger!!!!)

Favorite color: yellow and purple! idk why, it's just been like this since forever

(ok I lied I DO KNOW why yellow, because it was the colour of my favourite plushie when I was a baby kiddo. As a toddler I just decided that yellow is my fave colour for forever I guess. purple developed into a second favourite a bit later, but I do not have an origin story for that one. that colour just tickles my brain.)

Last book I finished: Hell Followed with Us by Andrew Joseph White! it was really cool and I enjoyed the horror aspects and the vibes. (Also I can't even begin to put into words how much it matters to me that I can finally nowadays read MULTIPLE different books with transmasc MAIN CHARACTERS. truly blows my mind. happy to see it.)

It was a nice breather while I had a break from reading Dracula by Bram Stoker but uhh... then I never got back to dracula after and just started reading Somewhere Beyond the Sea by TJ Klune. :')) to be fair I've been waiting for this one a while now. (though my reading has been on a break for a while. idk my brain just doesn't let me read currently but I'll get back to it at some point again! I probably won't be able to finish the books I'm currently in the middle of before the year ends but that's alright!)

Last TV show I watched: uh... Beast Wars: Transformers... (me n my friend have been on a transformers kick. their old hyperfixation is stirring once more and I am so glad to be along for the ride :3 )

Sweet/Spicy/Savory: I??? don't know??? I like sweet things?? but savoury is delish too??

Last thing I googled: Pancake recipe (I wana make a pancake to keep me and my brain busy and get a sweet treat while I'm at it)

Current obsession(s): UHHHH the strongest currently is probably Great God Grove since it FINALLY came out and I love love love that game so much it was definitely worth the wait!!! <3<3<3<3<3 also obviously Batman since it's the latest long lasting hyperfixation I've had in a WHILE. and the best thing is that there's.. A LOT of batman media I still haven't taken a look at or read or played etc. so never stop the madness or however that one meme goes.

(I also reblog a lot of stuff of all my other interests since like.. my adhd brain, yes gets hyperfixated on one specific thing for periods of time, but once the fixation period chills out the enjoyment doesn't fade. so like... Psychonauts, Pacific Rim, Mp100, Lupin the third, tf2, and SO MANY OTHER THINGS my beloveds. my blog is a mess of stuff I enjoy, but I try to tag everything so if someone gets sick of seeing a specific thing they can blacklist it!)

Looking forward to: I think winter get together/ christmas actually??? cant wait to spend a chill and calm and not stressful xmas with my friends,, not everyone in the group celebrates christmas so idk what I should call it but. its our little winter celebration thing. and the people there are very dear to me. I can't wait! <3

I'll tag uhhhhhhh @julletin , @mossitism , @radiant-sunlight-blueberry , @miduana , @enwie , @sateenkaaripieru , and I'll add more ppl if I have time! and if any friend or mutual wants to do this and I forgor, just poke me and I'll tag u!! <3

BUT LIKE NO PRESSURE TO PARTICIPATE IF YALL DON'T WISH TO!!! this is just for funsies!!! take care <3

[slut4thebroken]

Hey same anon that was talking abt your speech👋

Im not saying its your fault that people pick on you, its definitely not your fault that they're assholes. However you said your tone was the main issue for this and I still think that that is something that's controllable. Again not saying this like it excuses them cuz it doesn't but im saying while adhd isn't something you can control, things like tone can be controlled.

And I wasn't saying all this so that you could accommodate for people, I was coming from the perspective that you could accommodate for yourself. Like this whole situation with the mean classmates, im a firm believer in saying something so they dont feel like they can continue to display their bad behaviors. (Side note: I understand masking is telling you to basically copy these people but the people you're copying are rude so im not blaming you)

But my advice wasn't that you mask. I have a husband who suffers the same as you and he used to mask with me and pretty much everyone in his life. I understand masking isn't ideal and I understand that you guys think about every little social interaction. My advice was to be comfortable with yourself but also look more inward and think that maybe you are rude during those interactions. Obviously I don't follow you around everywhere so idk how these things go. But from what I've seen from my husband is being comfortable with yourself and communicating things thru does wonders for both parties to understand each other and being comfortable with yourself id say limits the masking.

Also I figured id give you an explanation on why I thought you were rude since you were confused. I understand you were self hating in the moment but things that came off as rude and like you resent people were things like your tags when you said "so they should know by now that I cant fucking control it and thats how I talk" (which I totally understand this my husband was a jerk when we met too. The issue socially is probably youre too literal. Its not an easy fix but it is fixable from experience but saying things like "I can't control it" is very limiting towards yourself.) The reason this is rude is bc its rude to you obvi but also in your mind it seems like you kind of subconsciously expect people to just tolerate these things when they are not normal to "normal people" (you can educate me on the correct term btw cuz I honestly hate saying normal ppl I just can't think of what the correct term is called at the moment, im not hating)

You also made assumptions that people immediately get annoyed with you or think you're annoying and there was something you said abt people not feeling the same as you abt certain things you like. 1. Making assumptions abt how people feel abt you is always iffy cuz you just came up with that answer yourself you didn't ask them. It kinda shows how you view people or what you think they think which is most likely not the case. 2. For the not liking similar things, im not sure if these people don't have similar interests with you at all or what but a lot of times in life its not gonna be common to find someone with the same amount of interest in something as you do. Not saying its impossible tho I just wouldn't put that pressure on people. Them being fake however is a different thing but I wouldn't know if they were being fake with you or not. There's a lot of gaps with this because we don't know each other but im not trying to be mean or hateful and im not saying all this like its definite, you could take it or leave it. But I hope there's no hard feelings i just 1. Mainly wasnt okay with how you were talking to yourself but 2. I also did think you were being a bit rude to just people in general cuz ive been there myself. Obviously were different people and im not saying our situations are similar at all but how I took it was that while you hate these things abt yourself, you were also blaming people for things that are (whether we agree or not) in your control. But I could be totally wrong and thats okay.

I hope this didn't come off as rude tho cuz I dont intend for it to be but if it was im sorry. Its not often but sometimes I see things I have the full intention of just being helpful but I end up being the opposite. I do genuinely hope that these issues don't continue to bother you up mentally tho. (Also sorry that these have all been lengthy).

Please enlighten me on how that’s controlable. If you were talking nicely to other people, just trying to engage in conversation and be a good friend, and people constantly said that to you, what would you do? If you’re already consciously trying to sound nice. What else is there to do?

And I was comfortable with myself. My parents stopped saying I have an attitude when I was just talking a long time ago, none of my long term friends have ever made it seem like something that was a huge problem, even my ex understood that I literally just sound like that. But now I’m constantly reevaluating every interaction, trying to figure out if I actually sounded rude or if I just thought I did, or if maybe they reacted a certain way because my tone didn’t match what I was trying to say. And I’m fucking tired. I don’t know what else I should do when I’m already intentionally trying to not sound rude other than just not fucking talk at all lmao which I just realized that I’ve lowkey started doing.

And I am too literal… that’s why I don’t pick up on things like I mentioned in my original post. There’s nothing I can do to train myself to not be literal so I’m not exactly sure how I would fix that. The term is neurotypical and I’m not saying they should tolerate it but when I quite literally apologize and correct my tone immediately after saying something that could be seen as rude, I personally think it’s a dick move to continue to be mean about it rather than just say “thanks for the apology. Good to know.” And I appreciate when people tell me that something I said sounded off because then we can fix the miscommunication and also I don’t want anyone to think I don’t like them because of that one interaction. But after having this conversation (“wtf. You don’t have to be so mean about it.” “I’m sorry, I wasn’t trying to be mean. I meant it like this__.”) so many times, I don’t understand why they would continue to respond like that. Some people have started saying stuff along the lines of “lmao girl that did not sound how you wanted it to” and I apologize again every time.

As for the making assumptions part, clearly you don’t know what it’s like to just be able to tell that someone doesn’t like you lol. I’ve delt with that my whole life (as have most neurodivergent people), I’m rarely wrong about that stuff for myself personally. And I understand that people have different interests… that’s not what I was saying. What I was saying was I don’t like how I’ll get excited about something and start talking about it cause I get riled up and then I realize that I’m talking a lot and that they don’t care. I’m not good at stopping that before it starts and the only reason I put that in the original post is because I literally did it earlier that day lmao.

It did come off as rude and it actually really hurt my feelings. In the future, maybe ask if someone wants help rather than giving unsolicited advice about a situation you barely know anything about. Never in my original post did I ask for advice, I was literally just venting after having a really rough day. And while I appreciate that it was your intention to help, you should just be more thoughtful moving forward.

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As another non-split aroace, you're so correct for saying that we're treated as the punching bags of both aro and ace communities. Like if y'all can accept and support straight aros and aces but are hostile towards aroaces, you're just aphobic. Yes even if you're aro/ace yourself. Aro spaces nowadays literally have the same attitude towards aroaces that exclusionists used to have towards asexuals, that we're weird freaks bringing purity culture into their "safe" communities just by existing and therefore need to be pushed out. And ace spaces still act like we're the bad guys and need to be pushed out of their "safe" communities because we can't romantically love other people, which makes us heartless monsters apparently. It's just exhausting. I've never seen aroaces being so hostile towards non-ace aros and non-aro aces, we're always trying to uplift their voices and bring awareness to their issues. But the moment we try to talk about our own issues in aromantic or asexual spaces we're told to shut up and let them speak over us because we somehow have it better than them. Not to mention the pressure to split your experiences into aro vs ace and prioritise one part of your identity over the other if you want to be taken seriously in those spaces. Like sorry but for some of us our aroaceness is interwined not split. But we're still aros and aces, still a part of your community. Stop trying to push us out of our own communities on the basis of aphobic stereotypes.

Honestly I've been kinda biting my tongue on it for a while because I understand why Aro and Ace ppl have been trying to separate the communities. it can be frustrating to constantly be paired with an identity that you don't relate to - but i feel like so many ppl have taken it way to far. They've taken the relatively understandable stance of "Aromantic and Asexual are not the same identity" and pushed it to the extreme of "Aro and Ace are so completely different they have nothing in common and NO overlap" and the worst part is i don't think anyone has particularly noticed.

Idk I was most active in the aro and ace communities when we still kinda shared communities. the idea that aro and ace were separate was still a thing (hell, aroaces were the ones helping to push that distinction. we wanted people to recognize our aro identities too, yknow.) but we recognized the overlap and similarities and supported each other... now it just feels like im seeing post after post reminding people not every aro or ace person is aroace and that people shouldt tag aro posts as ace and vice versa and "no ace people cant relate to aro experiences" "no aro people cant relate to ace experiences" because "They are so different they are completely not the same and don't have any overlapping problems at all" and as an aroace it sucks!

it sucks feeling forgotten in my own communities.

It's almost feeling like they are blaming us for there being this idea that people are are Ace must also be aro and people who are aro must also be ace. Like they know they cant get mad at the allos so they get mad at aroaces and act like we are the reason allos think this way. It's like aroaceness is only brought up to talk about how "Not everyone is aroace" or "aroace characters are so much more prevalent in media (Proceeds to only talk about ace characters)" or how aroace ppl must have an identity that means more to them - how their aro or ace identity must be more important or effect them more because they can't possibly intertwined and overlap and "hey you tagged your post with aro and ace tags but obviously its only about aromanticism/only about asexuality so remove some of those tags because it's annoying me" or worse I see aromantics being acephobic or asexuals being arophobic and it's like.... where do i fit in?

people think aroace ppl ran both communities as 1 community and they say it was bad and that we need to separate - but from my perspective it was two communities who worked together. the only difference now is that aroace ppl are getting pushed to the side. thrown under the bus. "you dont need rep you have tons of rep. society loves giving aroace rep!" and "not everyone is aroace. you're experience isn't universal and so you shouldn't talk about it" Aroace voices just got smaller. we got quieter. because our own communities decided we were privileged. we were more accepted than they were. or worse that we were actually the real freaks for not feeling both sexual and romantic attraction. we weren't palatable enough - there was nothing that could be used to normalize us. and besides, it was easier to just only fight for one set of rights, right?

and part of me understands it. it sucks. it sucks to always be a footnote. but guess what - aro and aces and aroaces are footnotes of the queer community. we're stuck here together and instead we're fighting over who's the more important footnote. we are all in the same boat and we're acting like we're not and trying to sink the ship forgetting we're all on it together.

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🎵💿 DISCOGRAPHY TAG 💿 🎵

tagged by: @seungs @ttathinker @seungmoes @hyunebear & @mybodyfails thank u 🫡💘 i tried to avoid doing this cause making decisions makes me throw up but im being so brave about this!!!

rules: pick an artist or band and share your favourite song/s from each of their albums, then tag some mutuals!

mixtape: hellevator

i am not: grow up, 3rd eye

i am who: question, awkward silence, my pace

i am you: get cool, n/s

cle 1 miroh: maze of memories, chronosaurus

cle 2 yellow wood: side effects, mixtape#1

cle levanter: double knot, levanter, astronaut

go live: easy, haven, god’s menu, top

in life: the tortoise and the hare, any, wow, b me

all in: slump jpn version, all in

noeasy: ssick, red lights, wolfgang, star lost

christmas evel: winter falls, christmas evel

oddinary: charmer, muddy water, venom

circus: circus, fairytale

maxident: taste, 3racha, can’t stop

skz replay side a: fam, love untold, stars & raindrops, lovestay

skz replay side b: alien, miss you, ice.cream, streetlight, i got it, zone, maknae on top, piece of a puzzle

i feel beyond sick to my stomach because ik there’s songs that should be included but i tried to limit myself 🤧🙇🏼‍♀️ but here u go!!!!

tagging: @jizung @euijin @milfho @yonglixx @wantbytaemin @njaems @sunmisbf idk who else to tag i fear so many ppl have done this 🫠 also no pressure of doing this obviously!