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luff-gore · 19 days ago
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[...] The 1st. Lieutenant of the Erebus [Graham Gore] has got a dog if therefore you have not sent off Cæsar [the Goodsirs' family dog?] yet it is just as well to keep him at home poor brute as he is rather old for the voyage altho not so advanced in years as the one we are taking. [...]
- Harry Goodsir to John Goodsir (Woolwich Dockyards, May 6, 1845)
[...] Lady [Jane] Franklin has given us, among other presents, a capital monkey [Jacko], which with old Neptune & a Newfoundland dog which is coming & one cat will be all the pets allowed. [...]
- James Walter Fairholme to George Fairholme (Greenhithe, May 17, 1845)
[...] In our mess we have the following whom I shall probably from time to time give you descriptions of – First Lieutenant Gore – and his black labrador dog [...]
- James Fitzjames to Elizabeth Coningham, née Meyrick (HMS Erebus, June 5-25, 1845)
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Potter, Russel et al. (ed., 2022): May We Be Spared to Meet on Earth. Letters of the Lost Franklin Arctic Expedition. London et al. (Thanks to @lup-garou!)
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saints-who-never-existed · 8 months ago
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Y'know, as much as I want to see multiple episodes-worth of everyday friendship things and Beach(y)-episode nonsense, I have to admit that my train of thought today was actually inspired more by the thought of The Lads (TM) clashing.
More specifically, it came from remembering this gem of a scene from that very earliest pilot script in which it's not Irving who reprimands Manson for his refusal to enter the hold but Dundy (who is also described in the script as "impatient and shrill")
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Isn't that just so fascinating?! Le Vesconte actively displaying callousness and poor judgement right from the get-go? Gore even being a bit antagonistic in the way he belittles Dundy as he leaves? It's such a fascinating thing to me and it changes everything!
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abrahamvanhelsings · 10 months ago
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imagining the things graham gore could and would have done to edward little's cervix had he lived a little longer
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frmulcahy · 1 month ago
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So guess who just learned about The Ministry of Time a couple hours ago because I received a copy 👀
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theselkiefolk · 4 months ago
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Terror folks is it gauche of me to cast Tom Weston-Jones (LT- graham gore) in my concept work AND have his call sign be sundog??
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ghostshipglamour · 9 months ago
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Who’s the beautiful lesbian on the French wikipedia article for Midshipman. where are they. Is she free tonight-
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(I swear it’s the real image but you can check for yourself)
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bell-swamp-fitzjames · 2 months ago
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well it's official, in the shower today i realized there is a terrible canon i can inflict upon this one xmas exchange fic i shan't, i simply shan't but technically if u think about it well..... it's lowkey the one of the questions i had about the graham gore book but i can't remember if it got addressed
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luff-gore · 15 days ago
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Thank you so much for the reply!
To no one's surprise (I am not subtle at all when I genuinely start getting invested in a historical subject, despite all the dumb Terror jokes I post), Gore was who I had in mind indeed! I already suspected that much because I was able to trace the family a bit too easily in a single Sunday session on Trove and the Gallaways (descendants of Gore's brother Edward) still used Gore as second name well into the 1940s (among other things like not really leaving the general area of Brisbane since the early 1880s) but having an actual confirmation is great! It definitely opens up a few additional opportunities should I ever find the time to actually start researching properly (instead of just shallow goreposting) and travel down under.
And, to be fair, it's just really interesting to finally have an official list of who still needs samples and who doesn't, even if it's not entirely up to date. Some of them are surprising, in my opinion (Hodgson: I assume the eligible descendants just don't want to give a sample?), some less so (Le Vesconte, Fairholme, Franklin, Crozier). Makes me all the more curious about Irving and Goodsir, however, for the obvious reason of there actually being bodies that haven't been identified for certain.
Well, I assume I have to take another look at my notes on the Littles then. I didn't really make it past his nieces (daughters of his sister Margaret Anne Cragg) during my first attempts at research because I got too fixated on figuring out the chronology of his service at the Navy, only to immediately hit a wall due to having no access to the musters, description books etc. at the National Archives in Kew (or the British Newspaper Archive in general).
Either way, all the best!
Good evening,
I hope you don't mind me sliding into your inbox like this. I have mainly been lurking on your blog but I greatly enjoy the content you post both here and on your official website. The depth of your research is really inspiring and shows how much time and effort you put into it! Oh, and also (belated) congratulations on your Fitzthesis! Definitely looking forward to your future publications, especially the updated Fitzjames biography.
In a way you have initiated the research I currently have sunk my teeth into because I haven't even heard of the Franklin Expedition before the partial remains of James Fitzjames had been identified last September, so thanks for that! Since you have obviously been able to get in touch with the right people after finding a relative/descendant, I was wondering whether you happen to know whether there is any official information on which members of the expedition already have been supplied with samples by a relative/descendant. I *might* be close to finding one for my own person of interest (or at least one of them) but am uncertain whether the work might actually have already been done beforehand and, thus, is a little obsolete from my side.
Thank you so much in advance!
Hello and thank you so much for your kind words! That's amazing that you were introduced to the Franklin Expedition after hearing about the identification of Fitzjames. I'm glad that the news inspired people to do genealogical research to find eligible candidates for a DNA match with the Franklin crew. The most up to date public list of whose family's DNA the research project already has is from this article of December 2021. It was this list that informed me that the project had no DNA sample to match with Fitzjames, and what spurred me on to find an eligible living relative myself. I know that the project has now obtained DNA samples for additional crew members, but there's no public source for this. If Graham Gore is your person of interest, somebody already found an eligible candidate for him. The list from 2021, names for whom DNA has been obtained are in bold:
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tac-the-unseen · 6 months ago
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Could you write slashers with a s/o who’s an artist? You can do with all/any you want but I would specifically like maybe the Sinclairs, Billy Lenz, Brahms and maybe Pinhead?
Slashers x Artist Reader + Pinhead
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Micheal Myers:
•Pretends not to care, but he's an artist at heart
•If you sculpt or blind things he will insist on watching you over your shoulders
•Will steal supplies for you whether you ask or not
•if you Draw or paint, it's going on the fridge or wall
•He truly admires your work
Billy loomis & Stu macher:
•Billy and Stu really just lets you do your thing
•Stu suggest glitter no matter the work or meaning
•Billy Suggests You make a lot of gore pieces
•Both of them will go the extra mile to kill models for you, so you have a subject
•Both Jokingly propose to model nude for you
Thomas Hewitt:
•Loves it when you proudly show him your art
•if you draw/paint on paper, He'll build custom frames So he can hang it up
•If you paint on a canvas, He'll make you canvases so you can make more art
•If you sculpt/Make pottery He'll make a display case for your work
•He's very proudly flaunts it to the family
Bubba Sawyer:
•Shows you his Bone art
•Wants to make art with you
•No matter what you do, He wants to join
•Will be as happy as can be if you make crafts with him or use his supply of bones in your art
Bo Sinclair:
•His Brain immediately connects you to Vincent
•He subconsciously starts treating you like his brother, no matter your relationship with him
•When he goes to other town he grabs you and his brother some supplies
•kinda just plops you down with Vincent and expects you to to get along, especially if you sculpt
•That's about as nice as he can get
Vincent Sinclair:
•He's excited to have somebody who understands
•Will silently sit next to you well both of you work on your craft
•Feels oddly comforting to him
•His family has always been connected by art, even though they're not great people. So having you make art with him solidifies your position as family to him
•shows you his technique with wax working, and wants to teach you how to sculpt with wax
Lester Sinclair:
•pt. 3 of familial bond
•because he didn't receive much attention as a kid, He desperately tried to be an artist to gain favor of his mother
•It didn't click with him the way it clicked with Vincent so he was shoved aside for “real artists”
•If you sit down and make art with him, he will cry
•constantly seeking your validation and praise
•holds your art very dear
Billy Lenz:
•Yet another creature looking over your shoulder
•He's fascinated by your ability to create
•You have hands And he has hands, yet your creations are always different than his
•He's a little jealous
•demands you teach him how to be better
•If you already don't know he'll show you how to crochet in return
Brahms Heelshire:
•In All his time locked away He has had plenty to make art
•He focus on the more classical sides of painting and traditional drawing
•He makes stunning portraits, So if you have a different art style it confuses him
•He's lived his life very sheltered so at first he might not even consider it art
•He later learns how much time and care you put into these works and starts to appreciate your dedication
•He also steals some of them to put up in his room
Hannibal Lecter:
•Very excited
•Starts showing off his own private art collection
•Takes it upon himself to teach you “proper technique”
•Gives you random history lessons on your choice of art form
•buys you very expensive supplies
Will Graham:
•Okay dude
•Doesn’t really care
•Just happy that you're happy
•Secretly admires your work when you are away
•Always make sure your work is safe and undamaged
The Lost Boys:
•Marko is immediately grinning ear to ear
•David pretends not to care
•Dwayne silently watches you
•Paul is all up in your personal space while you work
•No matter what you make or how proud of it you are, It's going in the horde pile with all their other treasures
•Paul and Marko asking you to draw them all the time
•If you do it's being hung up on the wall
Pinhead:
•Another artist in his own way
•He prefers body modification and rigging as his art form
•Will creepy watch you work from a distance
•He’ll give you polite criticism from time to time
•Seeing you so focused and dedicated makes him think of all the other past artists he's met
•Decides fairly quickly that you are his favorite
Thanks for reading <3
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br0nzefox · 16 days ago
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So I just finished rewatching Hannibal and I noticed a detail in the final scenes of the series.
In the final episode Will pulls himself and Hannibal off that cliff right? And then the camera pans down to the ocean where they fall.
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But the ocean is undisturbed. If two grown men fell into the ocean from a cliff there would be a pretty big splash. But there’s nothing. There is no sign of two bodies falling into the water. But the camera focuses on that.
There is NO WAY that is a coincidence. That it isn’t intentional. Otherwise it would be unnecessary to draw out attention to the ocean down below.
Plus the post credits scene is a pretty big hint that Will and Hannibal survived. There is no way Bedelia would cut up her own leg and prepare it and there is no one except Hannibal who would do so to her.
So my theory is the Fall was Will’s imagination. We already know his mind is prone to hallucinations so I think it is very plausible the fall was also one. It was more of a metaphorical fall. Wills moral fall. The FBI Agent Will Graham and the cold and emotionless Chesapeake Ripper are well and truly gone. Dead. Drowned. Their person suits shed. Will’s
And all that was left was the real Will and Hannibal. Monstrous, free and completely bound together.
“Can’t live with him, can’t live without him”
The old Will and Hannibal couldn’t, so they died that night in each others arms.
The new Will and Hannibal finally accept each other and themselves fully and truly. The blood, the gore and the love.
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sex enjoyers poll part 2!!!! My bad for not putting Blanky on the first one, apparently there’s a cuntiness limit we hit last time 😔😔
personally I would want to fuck Francis Crozier when he was better but if I couldn’t… I’d fuck him again but when he’s going through the alcoholism withdrawals so I can sensually nurse him back to health like a baby bird except he’s a sad sweaty man (..Jopson…. I get it now….)
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luff-gore · 1 month ago
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G. Gore del. / Graham Gore drew (it) A compilation [1/?]
engravings, based on original sketches (c. 1841) in: John Lort Stokes' Discoveries in Australia (vol. 1 / vol. 2, 1846)
I cannot allow these volumes to go before the public, without expressing my thanks to the following gentlemen for assistance, afforded to me in the course of the composition of this work: [...] to Lieutenants [Graham] Gore and [Lewis Roper] Fitzmaurice, for many of the sketches which illustrate the work [...]
1-2: South branch of the Albert River [in the Gulf of Carpentaria, Australia] / North West part of Magnetical Island [Yunbenun (Magnetic Island), Australia)]
3-4: Killing an Alligator, Victoria River [in the Joseph Bonaparte Gulf, Australia] / Coepang [Kupang, Indonesia], from the Anchorage
5-6: Passing between Bald Head & Vancouver Reefs [in Mammang-Koort (King George Sound), Australia] / Entrance of Van Diemen's Inlet [in the Gulf of Carpentaria, Australia]
7-8: Burial Reach, Flinders River / Upward view of Hope Reach, Albert River [in the Gulf of Carpentaria, Australia]
9-10: First View of the Plains of Promise, Albert River [in the Gulf of Carpentaria, Australia] / Last View of the Plains of Promise, Albert River
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theyonagoda · 1 month ago
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The Terror characters (who are historically connected to Australia in one way or another) as marsupials.
John Franklin was the governer of Tansmania, a job that he wasn't particularly good at. (un)fun fact: I think everyone deserves to know the story of Mathinna, a young indigenous girl adopted by the Franklins in an attempt to "civilize" her, who was abandoned and died young after they left. In the show, his visage reminds me quite a lot of the northern hairy-nosed wombat.
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John Irving tried to start a business raising sheep with his brother in Australia. He was robbed, almost died of dysentary, lost a ton of money, and went back to the Navy in shame. Fun fact: A piece of his cutlery was found with William Wentzell's initials carved onto them- implying that he was amongst the the deceased officers whose things were re-distributed amongst the men. He's a spotted-tailed quoll to me.
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Graham Gore's father, John Gore, was a prolific explorer who circumnavigated the globe twice and participated in the Terra Australis expedition, later becoming one of the first British settlers on the continent. He was also the first person to shoot A. a person of Maori descent and B. a kangaroo. Most of Graham's family moved to Australia by the time he was a young man. Graham's squarishness reminds me of the extinct thylacoleo- also known as the pouch lion.
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Bonus Round:
I've heard some information spread about Alfred Gibson, a man reported to be William Gibson's brother, who died in Ernest Giles's expedition in Australia in the 1870s. The Gibson desert was named after him. "Alf," as he called himself, was born in was born in 1851 and was almost certainly not related to our Billy. Nontheless, I'll bite and designate Billy a marsupial- the numbat! A rat-like, termite-eating, thin-snouted little dude.
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rmstitanics · 5 months ago
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* FAMOUS INDIVIDUALS WITH YOUR MOON SIGN.
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If you’re looking for suggestions on which authors and music artists to check out next, look to your moon sign! In Western astrology, the moon is said to represent your subconscious mind, emotions, and inner personality, so it is widely believed that we tend to relate to media by artists who share our moon sign.
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♈️ ARIES MOON
WRITERS:
Gore Vidal
George R. R. Martin
Nicholas Sparks
Rick Riordan
Jennifer Lynn Barnes
Christopher Paolini
MUSICIANS:
P!nk
Whitney Houston
Céline Dion
Selena Gomez
Rihanna
Tupac
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♉️ TAURUS MOON
WRITERS:
Jodi Picoult
F. Scott Fitzgerald
Hans Christian Anderson
Clive Barker
George Bernard Shaw
Aldous Huxley
MUSICIANS:
Pharrell Williams
Kelly Clarkson
Bob Dylan
Demi Lovato
Christina Aguilera
Pitbull
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♊️ GEMINI MOON
WRITERS:
C. S. Lewis
Fyodor Dostoevsky
Orson Scott Card
Franz Kafka
Margaret Mitchell
R.A. Salvatore
T. S. Elliot
MUSICIANS:
Ella Fitzgerald
Florence Welch
Art Garfunkel
Billy Idol
Sia
Tina Turner
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♋️ CANCER MOON
WRITERS:
George Orwell
Liu Cixin
Brandon Sanderson
Cassandra Clare
Diana Gabaldon
Lois Lowry
MUSICIANS:
Tchaikovsky
Taylor Swift
Kurt Cobain
Halsey
Aretha Franklin
Janis Joplin
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♌️ LEO MOON
Oscar Wilde
Holly Black
Geraldine Brooks
James Dashner
Jack London
Ta Nehisi Coates
MUSICIANS:
Lana Del Ray
Paul McCartney
Queen Latifah
Niall Horan
Bruno Mars
David Bowie
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♍️ VIRGO MOON
WRITERS:
Leo Tolstoy
John Grisham
Claudia Gray
Isabel Allende
Xiran Jay Zhao
Douglas Adams
MUSICIANS:
Dolly Parton
Nicki Manaj
Madonna
Lorde
Bo Burnham
Lizzo
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♎️ LIBRA MOON
WRITERS:
Jane Austen
Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie
Sylvia Plath
William Shakespeare
Maya Angelou
R.F. Kuang
MUSICIANS:
Ariana Grande
Charli XCX
Bruce Springsteen
Jay-Z
Harry Styles
Fergie
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♏️ SCORPIO MOON
WRITERS:
Veronica Roth
Edith Wharton
V.E. Schwab
Harper Lee
Keira Cass
Meg Cabot
MUSICIANS:
Lady Gaga
Tyler the Creator
Cyndi Lauper
Beyoncé
Bob Marley
The Weeknd
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♐️ SAGITTARIUS MOON
WRITERS:
Stephen King
Victor Hugo
Marie Lu
Suzanne Collins
Samantha Shannon
Adam Silvera
MUSICIANS
Hozier
Freddie Mercury
Adele
Ludwig Van Beethoven
Chappell Roan
John Legend
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♑️ CAPRICORN MOON
WRITERS:
Sarah J. Maas
J.M. Barrie
Jeff Shaara
Joyce Carol Oates
Stephanie Meyer
Angie Thomas
MUSICIANS:
Frédéric Chopin
Neil Diamond
Jon Bon Jovi
Lin-Manuel Miranda
Stevie Nicks
Donna Summer
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♒️ AQUARIUS MOON
WRITERS:
Margaret Atwood
Leigh Bardugo
Louisa May Alcott
Seth Grahame-Smith
Anthony Horowitz
S.E. Hinton
MUSICIANS:
Cody Simpson
Marilyn Monroe
Britney Spears
Billie Eilish
Tim McGraw
Carrie Underwood
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♓️ PISCES MOON
WRITERS:
Toni Morrison
Edgar Allen Poe
Malcolm Gladwell
Lisa McMann
Alice Oseman
Philippa Gregory
MUSICIANS:
Kenny Chesney
Elvis Presley
Frank Sinatra
Prince
Kendrick Lamar
Sabrina Carpenter
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laniusbignaturals · 1 year ago
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This, too, counts as “exploring each others bodies”
I’d worry less about whether or not I project too much in my writing if this lil nasty ass Sallowgraham WIP didn’t keep getting derailed by one of them taking a second to wax poetic about how good it would feel to gut the other like a fish
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nigesakis · 9 months ago
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In light of the Graham Gore book (The Ministry of Time) coming out on May 7th and a show adaption already greenlit, I think it's important to talk about the fact its about the historical Gore, not the AMC character. As far as I know, the author first was a Terror fan and then picked interest by seeing historical Gore's portrait, and then got into the historical information (and you probably couldn't write a whole book about the AMC character anyway, considering the little screentime). So, it's not a Terror fanfiction, but a book involving RP fanfiction.
Anyway, what I wanna talk about is that The Terror fandom, me included, has a problem with mixing the historical and fictional sides. The Terror is a work of fiction, the characters' personalities and their actions are fictional.
Especially Fitzjames, who is as fictional as Hickey is. He's mostly based on Battersby's "research", which we now know includes a lot of bullshit (the Barrow scandal apparently did not happen, for example). @jamesfitzjamesdotcom can probably tell you more about that than I can.
So, the thing is, if you wanted to write a book about Fitzjames, about Francis, Fitzier, Goodsir or basically any other character with screentime, and then say it's about the historical persons, you could not do it if your interest and knowledge is majorly based on or fueled by The Terror.
You couldn't mix AMC James and historical James together, because they are two different people. If you write about Fitzier with their characterisations from the show, you couldn't call it historical Fitzier; it'd be like writing Destiel and then saying it's Drarry. Or some other ship that has barely any canon content, because if you look at historical Fitzier, there's no Fitzier. Like writing about Bungo Stray Dogs and then saying its about historical Ozamu Dazai just 'cause they use his name and some character traits.
It's one thing to take historical lore and use it for The Terror fanfiction or headcanons. But you can't look at historical Fitzjames or other crew members and extend their AMC/Simmons counterparts onto them.
The Terror is an amazing show in itself, but it's not a biopic or historical show like HBO War is, for example. It's not a show that tries to represent the real people as they were, the expedition as it was, it's a work of fiction inspired by real events, subjectively interpreted and then fictionalised. So if you're interested in the real events, you can't just watch or read The Terror, because it doesn't represent them. It doesn't represent the people.
This fandom, again me included, needs to be more conscious of that when talking about the historical people and events.
Especially now, because the Gore book will most likely attract more people to watch/read The Terror and get into the Franklin Expedition. So it's important that when they get here, there's a clear, or at least clearer, cut between The Terror and the real history.
For example, not tagging historical FE content with "The Terror/The Terror AMC/terrorposting" (since the historical Terror would be HMS Terror it'd be a difference) is a start. Tagging the show/book content clearly with "Simmons/AMC/2018" somewhere, and not with "Franklin Expedition", is another way.
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