#( thor: mirror. )

[virushoney]

I have to do this meme art XD

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do not use or repost

[starkkawajiri]

darling guess who's back from jail

humanized Genshin!Cloak of Levitation (Astirfae) no way!!

(idea from @nekojetto!!!!!!)

(still dont know which color palette to stick to)

strange and astirfae mean best friends that convince each other to make very bad decisions

and pspsp,,,, let me know if i should write some lore for her

small doodle of tonio and sufian with matching lil star face tattoos before you go

theyre so stupid i like them a normal amount

theyre lucky theyre in genshin where main characters dont die, it means i cant kill either of them

[firstkanaphans]

[tyrannuspitch]

Odinson twin manifesto

Part two: IMPLICATIONS

Or: Why should you see Thor and Loki as adoptive twins? What does this reading add to the story? (Part one [evidence] here)

Thor and Loki don't look related, much less like twins. But the idea of them being twins would help deflect accusations of bastardry, because if you question Loki's parentage, you (apparently) have to question Thor's too. Even if you doubt it, what are the chances of a bastard being the exact same age as a legitimate son? It's almost a mind game on Odin and Frigga's part - telling such an obvious lie that surely it has to be the truth, because how else could they be getting away with it?

Thor and Loki each look far more like their birth fathers than they do each other. They are, arguably, the Jotun/Asgardian rivalry incarnate. Copies of their fathers, generational cycles, intertwined histories... I've long held that Odin and Laufey's enmity seems personal, and by making Loki his son, Odin made it even more so.

But at the same time, Loki has been made to look much more like Odin and Thor than he naturally would... He is an artificial twin and an artificial copy of an Asgardian.

Thor and Loki's signature colours (red/green) are complementary. Jotun and Asgardian pigmentation are also complementary colours. They look so different on the surface, but beneath the surface, there's so much symmetry.

The perception of Thor and Loki (in fandom and in-world) includes this pervasive (but not very well-founded) idea of them as strong vs weak, and healthy vs sickly. In-world, perhaps people have been assuming that some of their differences came out about via Thor leeching all of Loki's nutrients in utero - which projects their rivalry back to before they were even born.

Twinhood intensifies everything about their relationship -codependence, rivalry, power struggles... They are inseparable, mutually-defining opposites, and they always have been. They are each how the other learnt to relate to other people in general. Their very first and closest companion; possibly each other's first memories.

Twinhood means they will have grown up sharing everything - friends, birthdays, bedrooms, symbols from Odin's helmet - even, in theory, an inheritance. But they can't share forever. Only one of them can be crowned. They walk side by side, until they can't any more. The succession crisis is inevitable! You cannot have twin princes and expect it not to cause problems!

The idea that Thor is not actually older adds a real edge to the times when he acts like he is, and a weight to Loki saying that he wanted to be Thor's equal. Like, if they're twins... why are they demonstrably not equals? Why can Thor even say "know your place" - Why is Loki's place known to be beneath Thor? The power struggle is far from one-sided, and far from spontaneous. Thor keeps Loki down as much as Loki tries to overthrow Thor. There is something larger and deeply sinister at work here.

(Of course age dictating rank is always unjust (everything about monarchy is unjust!) - But that injustice will be so much more visceral and maddening for Loki if the age difference is allegedly minutes, not years. A tiny, meaningless accident of birth, defining them both forever...)

There's also the question of how real their relationship is. We pretty much all agree that adopted brothers can be "real" brothers... but can adopted twins be "real" twins? How deep does the bond have to go to count? Is being infants together enough? Newborns? Do they have to actually have shared a womb to claim to bond they always thought they had?

Resonance with Thanos and the idea of cutting the world in half. Thor and Loki as two halves of a whole, one destined to die (over and over) and one to live (on and on no matter how many loved ones he loses.) A cruel supposed-necessity of the myth that is their lives.

Weren't Vili and Ve twins [in comic canon]? Twins are genetic. This would also lend credence to the lie.

And if Loki and Thor are Vili and Ve... Does that not make Odin Hela?

I'll admit that many of these things aren't strictly twin-specific, but I feel like the twins reading just adds a little extra power to it all! It's not a hill I'd die on, but I do REALLY enjoy rotating it in my mind.

[drrutherford]

[the-mjolnir-owner]

[dougielombax]

Okay.

Here we go again.

(This is a small redux due to editing issues)

Parallels.

Or

Seeing Patterns in Things that Aren’t There

Part 30.

(First Parallels post of 2024!)

Falling in Reverse

1. “I have been falling for thirty minutes!” - Loki. Thor: Ragnarok (2017).

2. “Outside the bunker I encountered two beings. The demon and the monster. The monster distracted me as the demon opened the earth beneath me. I fell and fell and fell. I fell for hours. I landed in a room with a television. A TV? Or a mirror?” - Cthonaut A (modern day universe). The Monument Mythos: Season Four - Alcatraz, Always (2024)

This one was meant more as a joke but I still thought it was worth putting together anyway.

One could make comparisons between Cthonaut A’s experience and that of Virginia Arnoldson (all of her). The video even does so itself. Sort of.

Loki’s fall on its own is but a minor predicament compared to the shit that Virginia (all of her) and Cthonaut A end up going through.

Still.

Make of this what you will.

[devoursjohnlock]

What do you think of Mrs. Hudson’s role in Sherlock tho? Like since Una Stubbs has (sadly) passed away, can her role be replaced by another character through mirror characters? Or would they need to have another person play that role?

Hi anon,

Of course it's devastating to lose Una Stubbs as Mrs Hudson, and it's much harder for those involved in the show, who knew her personally, than it is for us.

In the Sherlock universe, I think the most obvious way to deal with the loss of Mrs Hudson as a character would be to cast a new actress as Mrs Turner, and have her appear as the 221B landlady without explanation. This would mirror Doyle's occasional use of Mrs Turner instead of Mrs Hudson.

The 221B landlady is unnamed when she first appears in A Study in Scarlet (1887), and then named Mrs Hudson in the next novel, The Sign of Four (1890). Despite this, she is named Mrs Turner throughout the first short story, A Scandal in Bohemia (1891). Much later, Mrs Turner is lined out in an early draft of The Empty House (1903), and replaced by Mrs Hudson:

Interestingly, there are varied theories about how long Mrs Hudson remained at 221B. Many Sherlockians believe that the old woman named Martha in His Last Bow (1917), described by Sherlock Holmes as "the only servant I have left", is actually Mrs Hudson, even though her last name is not given, and bringing Mrs Hudson along for undercover work at the German spy Von Bork's house seems a bit presumptuous. In Sherlock, this story is largely incorporated into His Last Vow (hardly surprising, given the title), and several of Von Bork's traits are incorporated into Magnussen's character. In the ACD Sherlock Holmes universe, this would place Mrs Hudson at the latest point in the timeline, dated at 1914 (it will be the last story in Letters From Watson).

However, the mention of a "new cook" in the Case-Book story Thor Bridge (1922), which Sherlock also borrows from in His Last Vow, as well as in S4, has led some Sherlockians to speculate that Mrs Hudson is no longer at 221B by that point.

"There is little to share, but we may discuss it when you have consumed the two hard-boiled eggs with which our new cook has favoured us. Their condition may not be unconnected with the copy of the Family Herald which I observed yesterday upon the hall-table. Even so trivial a matter as cooking an egg demands an attention which is conscious of the passage of time, and incompatible with the love romance in that excellent periodical." (Holmes to Watson in Thor Bridge)

In Sherlock, the role of Jane, the inattentive maid in The Abominable Bride, appears to be borrowed partly from Watson's maid Mary Jane, who cuts his boots while scraping mud off them in A Scandal in Bohemia, and the new cook who can't boil an egg in Thor Bridge.

The thing is, in the ACD Sherlock Holmes universe, Mrs Hudson is the cook; this is not in dispute. So, the reference to a "new cook" suggests to some that Mrs Hudson may have passed away sometime before Thor Bridge, which would mean that Martha cannot be Mrs Hudson if you take the dates seriously.

None of this directly answers your question, but my point is, the Great Game presents some interesting considerations for addressing the appearance of a new landlady for 221B. They may choose not to address it at all, swapping in a Mrs Turner for Mrs Hudson without comment, as Doyle did, or they may choose to mention the death of the character directly, or they may choose something else. Their method is pretty flexible, and they have options because of the way that Doyle wrote and the way that his stories have been interpreted over time. There is some ambiguity around Mrs Hudson as a character in the later stories; I assume they will lean into that, though I could easily be wrong.

[midnightcowboy1969]

they should've had sex, clap if you think they should've fucked

[luvsavos]

unironically bossgat lives in my brain rent free

[greenvertumna]

Look I can’t say I love Loki x Sylvie but honestly I am getting a kick out of imagining the field day Thor would have knowing his brother fell in love with himself.

[ink-pocket]

i call this one "if you tell me about how you don't believe in guilty pleasures because you enjoy things guilt free one more time, i will shoot you with a gun"

or, some garbage is ok

[daddy-ul]

@lovely-menza MAIDENNNNNN! HI :D

Always happy to see one of my fave duders around tunglr 🖤

(I love that "actually listen to" sjdjsjsjsjs like one of us would lie, like the hard part isn't choosing ONLY five.)

Anyway, TRUTH OF THE MOMENT ...or I'll end up overthinking this

This Picture - Placebo

Dehumanized - Disturbed

Trauma (arranged) - Ghost Trick soundtrack (it's a v good videogame 10/10 would recommend)

Bells in Santa Fe - Halsey

Rebellion - Linkin Park

NOW, the Metallica version (bc ... Like, if I just look at the most recent listened song, they are basically all tallica songs sksksksks I listen to them on my bike to and from my dojo, and tonight was karate night so....)

Halo on Fire (14/02/18 live)

Until it sleeps S&M

Astronomy

Harvester of sorrow

Battery S&M

Like, they are literally the songs that I listened to on my way to and back from the dojo snsjsjsj

Maiden, TYSM, this was so much fun!

[tyrannuspitch]

oh no the fun symbolism in that edit that just came out of my queue is not linguistically accurate :(

that's a T-rune not a TH-rune, so it doesn't matter than the L-rune is a T-rune with a missing piece. because his name is thor not tor :(

but! potentially you could still argue that a TH-rune (ᚦ) is two L-runes (ᛚ) put together, with one mirrored along the vertical axis... like so:

which could maybe mean something about... shadows? reflections? halves? loki as a defective version of thor, but thor's sense of identity inherently incorporating loki? loki being lonely and severed from thor? idk it's less obvious and therefore harder to interpret. but it IS linguistically accurate. whenever you need someone to make your symbolism worse and more contrived just give me a call 👍

[worstloki]

Nightly Routine

Thor is shirtless posing in front of a full length mirror. Loki is in bed reading a book.

and then they cuddle

[kinnoth]

you ever get headcanons that are like, incredibly true, completely IC, something that fits into your understanding of a character precisely, but you can’t find any occasion in which to deploy it?

bc i very strongly believe that loki would be super into F1 racing