#‘we’re okay with the ethnic cleansing of palestinians’

[hunrising]

What’s baffling to me is that according to what western governments/media said these past days, hamas shouldn’t have attacked civilians in response to the violence they’ve been suffering for decades because it violates international laws, and I agree, civilians shouldn’t have been victims of an attack like this. However now, according to those same people, Israel has the absolute right to defend itself and have no other option but to respond aggressively, no matter how many civilians get caught in the crossfire, and thus also violating international laws? I’ve been racking my brain to see if I’m missing something, or if all of these politicians and journalists are intentionally contradicting themselves in order to please each other?

[txtaetertots]

hi all.

i’m hoping to get back to updating soon. it’s something i dearly miss and cannot wait to get back to when i have time. ive been putting a lot of my focus lately into not only my last semester of grad school but also into action for palestine. it’s more important to me to invest the little free time i have into doing what i can to push the fight for a liberated palestine. i refuse to sit here and act like everything is okay when millions of people are suffering a genocide.

hybe is complicit in this ethnic cleansing as well whether you want to accept it or not. they’ve allowed scooter braun to have the power and influence to spread zionist propaganda. scooter braun has always shown himself to be a despicable excuse for a human being, and if him being a zionist on top of all of that isn’t enough for you to consider his termination a crucial goal to work toward.. you do not truly care about palestine.

palestine cannot be free if we allow zionism to become normalized. it’s our duty to call it out and shame zionists out of our spaces! they are not and should not be welcome ANYWHERE. which is why i’m one of many moas who have made the decision to BOYCOTT HYBE. i refuse to put money in the pockets of these greedy, capitalist pigs who don’t care about anything but squeezing every penny they can out of fans. it’s not about the music anymore for bighit. all they care about is how much they can get away with because they know we’re willing to spend anything if it means getting content and merch. i don’t want to hurt txt’s comeback, but in my opinion, a comeback isn’t more important than a fucking genocide. plain and simple. i refuse to give hybe any more of my money through streams, album sales, tickets, or merch until they get rid of fuckass scooter braun.

if you don’t want to boycott, that’s fine. that’s your choice and i don’t blame you for not wanting to. as long as you’re doing what you can to help palestine in other ways, i see no shame. but i still do encourage you to consider boycotting as well. if not, but you’re able to buy multiple albums and concert tickets? i think you can also donate to palestinian aid and families as well. i just ask you not say you care about palestine yet do nothing to help their resistance.

that being said: i hope you don’t shame fans who do choose to partake in this boycott, because you need to understand this isn’t an attack on txt or any other hybe group. i’ve seen so many people attack boycotters and accuse us of wanting our idols to fail. it makes my blood boil because that couldn’t be farther from the truth. you must be truly out of touch and thick headed to think this is a personal attack on them. there are more important things than a comeback. especially when one of the songs (the killa) on txt’s new album was produced BY AN “ISRAELI”!! this is what we’re talking about when we say scooter braun is playing a huge role in welcoming zionism to hybe. people are losing their homes, their land, their families, their LIVES.. this is about removing the facilitators of genocide from positions of power in every industry they leech on. and if you somehow can’t seem to understand that, you’re a zionist too. chart positions, views, album sales, whatever are not more important than the liberation of indigenous people. choosing to believe otherwise is cruel and evil, and choosing to argue with us over this makes you no ally to palestine. it makes you complicit to the normalization of zionism which is the primary force in the oppression and dehumanization of palestinian people.

i encourage you to download the songs elsewhere (so many google drive links and free streaming apps exist (for example: musi)). don’t stream the killa. refuse the normalization of zionism. make zionists UNCOMFORTABLE! they don’t deserve to experience peace when palestinians are living in constant fear because of the barbaric attacks by that illegitimate state trying to forcibly steal palestinian land.

below i’ve attached graphics from twitter made by palestinian fans and allies who are leading the boycott against hybe. if you would like more information i will link other important twitter accounts you can check out for more. you don’t have to follow the whole list but they ask we at least adhere up to priority 3!

i’m open to providing any other information you need. thank you for reading.

- yuri

important accounts/threads:

hybe boycott priority list thread

ARMY4PALESTINE

Music Lovers for Liberation

Zionists in Music

HYBE Boycott Update

Care for Gaza

[joonberriess]

Out of curiosity, what is your take on these violent extremist groups that run many third world countries? i.e. ISIS, Hamas, Al-Qaeda, the Taliban, and all these terrorist military regimes and warlords that run a lot of African countries. The citizens are oppressed by these extremist groups. They kidnap people and teach them that it's okay to kill innocent civilians. But how are these innocent civilians supposed to rise up and overthrow their oppressors? They have the clothes on their backs and not much else. They're starving. They live in shacks or huts with no running water or electricity. The women have no rights and are sold like property. The children have no schools or any type of education. It's heartbreaking to see these children in third world countries with nothing. But how are they supposed to fight against extremist groups that have automatic weapons, bombs, etc.? It's great that you speak about freeing all these different countries in the middle east and Africa, but if the civilians can't fight and actually win against their oppressors, how will they ever be free? In order to break free and gain their country back, they need lots of weapons and training on how to use them. Who will do that?

As for Palestine, I fully support them. I think Israel is completely out of control right now. From what I've read and seen Hamas attacked Israel. But the problem is that Hamas (like any other violent extremist group) was/is using the innocent Palestine citizens as a shield against Israel. But now it seems that it's become Israel v. innocent Palestine citizens, which is completely horrible on Israel's part. I understand Israel wanting to remove Hamas, but I don't accept that Israel is killing all these Palestine people in the name of removing Hamas. But can someone tell me why the Palestinian people allowed Hamas in? Or did Hamas just come in and take over like other typical extremist groups? That's what I'm not sure about. How did Hamas come to basically overtake Palestine? And this goes back to the first paragraph of this ask, if the Palestinian people aren't strong enough to rise up and defeat Hamas, how are they supposed to be free? And if Hamas was not in Palestine, and did not attack Israel, would Israel be attacking Palestine right now? I don't know. I feel like Israel used the Hamas attack as an excuse to attack Palestine.

hamas is a direct result of YEARS of oppression. this to me r people taking back their land and fighting for their freedom. they r not using their own people as shields like what? im sorry but they r fighting against the colonization of their land and it so happens that their people are stuck DISPLACED mind you, you can’t just say “hey we’re planning on attacking and fighting back, we need y’all to evacuate.” evacuate where?? it’s like u said they got their clothes on their backs and that’s it. HOW CAN THEY FIGHT BACK? why do you think these militia groups exist? and as for ur other question on how do i think they can be free, the same thing we’re doing with Palestine. WE SPEAK UP. we shed light on the atrocities and keep going until action is taken. and as sad as it is, you realize that fighting back your oppressors OF COURSE people will be in the crossfire, it isn’t right but what can they do? they have nowhere to go and if they do they’re already dead the moment they try to leave. stuff like this is never a win win because while you can say they’re free but at a very high price bc there was no winner to begin with. now, why do you think Palestinians “let” hamas in? and no, israel has been committing this genocide since the early 1940s it’s been DECADES, israel just wanted to finally wipe out or should i say.. ethnically cleanse Palestinians.

[lets-talk-spirituality]

No talk about Palestine?

Honestly, I don’t feel super educated on the topic, so I haven’t posted much. I also don’t know if it’s my place to speak out about this as much as my place to listen to Palestinians and hear their stories. But I do want to say a few things.

Firstly, I have a very close friend who is Jewish, he doesn’t support Israel per se and has really always advocated for a peaceful two state solution, but it is still painful for him to witness antisemitism. And that is a byproduct of what is happening. There is a piece of my heart that hurts for the Jewish and Israeli community. He is my family and I understand the pain he feels towards injustice. I have some Israeli friends here as well with family over there and my heart hurts for them.

Secondly, I have gone to school with Palestinian people, and I’ve been seeing the information they’ve been posting and it’s made me cry. I’ve not always been sure what sources to use to learn about this issue since this issue has been highly politicized. I believe the state of Israel is committing genocide and has been trying to ethnically cleanse themselves of Palestinians the entire time. And they have done this in gross, inhumane and terrorizing ways. When I hear stories about what’s happened and happening, my heart breaks for these people and how they’ve been treated for decades. Chatteled and controlled like fucking animals in the Israeli government zoo. Israel controls the resources.

I don’t know how to sit with the reality of what they are experiencing. It is so painful, I’m not sure how to hold space, and that’s part of why it’s hard for me to watch what’s happening there. I have always felt a deep connection to the Middle East, a deep desire to be able to go there and do humanitarian work, to learn the culture and see the history, so when stuff happens there it breaks my heart deeply. Like when America abandoned all those people in Afghanistan, a part of me broke inside to see that. There’s so much power in the area, that’s why it’s always seemingly going through power struggles. The garden of Eden is there. The history is immaculate. The loss of life and knowledge is an immense pain I carry. These people dying right now, hold the history of the land inside of them. They hold all this knowledge and they are gone. It makes me cry.

And I agree that the holocaust has been weaponized as a way to say this behavior is okay. No. I want to make it abundantly clear that while my heart hurts for the Jewish community, it hurts deeply for the Palestinian community and their fight for human rights. Watching videos of children shaking and breaking down in tears over the trauma they’ve witnessed. How can people continue to hurt others like this, abuse and torture others. The land that everyone is fighting for, my heart breaks for her too. All the pain and death she has held.

I hold Israel responsible for the formation of hamas and honestly a lot of the militant Islamic states we’ve seen commit these human rights atrocities. I hold the west and Israel accountable. I hold greed accountable. I will never condone torture of innocents and do not agree with the hamas tactics but I believe Israel has brutalized and broken the Palestinians to a point where they feel they can only fight fire with fire. They are brutalizing their own people in the process. The power of the state and what it represents is not worth the death of all these innocent people.

Thirdly, I was raised in a Pentecostal Assembly of God church and I have always been told that when Israel and Palestine go to war, the end of times will come. Yes there has been conflict for years, but it becoming an official war, is something I wasn’t sure I’d ever see. I’m processing this. In conjunction with how this goes along with Russia and the attempt to overthrow Putin, the fires on Maui, and other issues of tension around the world—Taiwan, indigenous rights everywhere—it seems like we’re coming to a make or break period of our trajectory. And those of us who are called will have to be ready to step up and lead us to the next phase. That’s why some of us are here. That’s why I am here.

So while this is very physical, there are spiritual elements to what is happening too. And I feel these undercurrents rippling all the time. Thank you for asking anon and allowing me to answer about this. This is my position and I’m not sure what else to say about it.

[aceduchessdragoness]

This was originally uploaded on tiktok by its_.sam.03 on Dec12,2023.

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[id: video transcript – grammar/punctuation by me

snippit from the video its_.sam.03 is using to talk about Taylor Swift: […]- that if Tayolor Swift posted something that was pro-Palestine, the west would fall within the hour […]

If you follow me you’ll know that I’m a pretty big Swifty: I listen to all of Taylor Swift’s music, that I really love and really appreciate her lyricism and everything, I attended the eras tour – I know all about her, all of that kind of stuff, okay?

I 100% agree with the fact that Taylor Swift being silent on the literal genocide that’s happening right now in Palestine is absolutely atrocious, and that it needs to be spoken on, and that we can’t just give her an excuse of “oh, she doesn’t have to talk about it because she’s Taylor Swift.” We have to remember that at the end of the day she’s a person, she’s not some perfect idol, she has faults – she has flaws. And one of them is the fact that she never speaks up for people of color, and one of the criticisms of Taylor Swift, that I definitely agree with, is that she is a white feminist. We all know that. And it is okay to appreciate an artist’s music, even appreciate the personal values of an artist, but you have to understand that her not speaking on something this big is an issue!

The Weekend donated over $2 million to Gaza, Hozier has been posting non-stop on his account, on his stories about what’s happening in Palestine. Countless other celebrities have spoke up. And before anyone says “oh, well none of them have as big of a reach as Taylor Swift,” I do agree that she is a huge voice and a huge influence, and just a few months ago when she had posted about registering to vote and thousands of people had registered to vote. That’s how big her influence is, just her posting, literally she didn’t even have to say the words from her mouth or put a video up of her saying it. Just her on her story: the words, the link. People did it. That shows that she has a huge influence and if she had used that influence, or still could use that influence, to help the people of Gaza, it would mean so much as a fan, who is a human being, who cares about people who are being killed and ethnically cleansed in Palestine.

This is not to say Taylor Swift is a terrible person, okay? I know she donated a lot of money elsewhere, all the people who have interactions with her say that she’s a kind person, all that stuff, okay? We’re not negating the fact of those things, okay? But, I am saying that she has to speak up – has to say something – in order for this to be right, because she was just named person of the year – Which, look, I’m proud of her for that, okay, like I said, I’m a Swifty; I think that’s great for her. But the fact that Palestinian journalists, Palestinian doctors, who have been saving lives, who have been documenting everything at the cost of their own lives and their own safety, were neglected in this award, and it was just given to her, is absolutely insane to me, and I will die on that hill.

As a POC Swifty, it is just to disappointing to time and time again never see her speak on important issues that are going on unless they align with her ideals of white feminism. And I’m sorry, but that is just the truth. You can like a person and still critique them. It’s the same thing, like, with politics, okay? I’m sorry; anyone who is a billionaire is going to have issues when it comes to morals and ethics, okay? You can like a politician, does that mean the politician’s ever gonna be perfect? No, and we know that.

I’m not comparing Taylor Swift to a politician, but I’m saying that at the end of the day she is a businesswoman, okay? And she knows what she needs to say, and what she needs to post, and what she needs to market that is going to bring her profit. And I think there have been situations where – I know, I’ve watched the Miss Americana documentary where she’s argued with her team, argued with her father, about what she wants to fight for. And her saying things against Trump back a few years ago, was – I will admit – very good of her, but, at the same time, you can’t just argue for white issues and not care about what people of color are going through, especially when it’s an issue that is this big. You can’t just stand silent on it. I will say though, that I disagree with people who are saying that all Swifties are just ignoring the fact that she’s being silent. There is a, I believe, Swifties of Palestine account that I saw on here, on TikTok; they’re demanding of Taylor Swift to speak out and donate and all that, which I think is very admirable, and I honestly hope that is reaches her, because she needs to see. If she sees – she is someone who listens to her fans, and I do admit that it’s sad that she needs her fans to tell her this in the first place, but if we communicate enough that we would like her to speak out on his topic, she might, okay? So, I highly recommend starting to call her out, starting to say that, you know, we respect you as an artist, and we love your music, but we want to see our ethics and our morals in your ethics and your morals. Because if you don’t care about people of color, if you don’t care about the genocide that’s happening right now enough to speak on it, or do something or donate at the very least, then I honestly will lose respect for her, so…  /id]

[americanmysticom]

Skywatch TV News Five in Ten 7/16/20: Israeli Sovereignty Over Judea and Samaria

Partial transcript;

First, Israel is the only quiet place in the Middle East! Looking around you, you will see troubles in Lebanon in Syria Iraq Iran Yemen Saudi Arabia Egypt Turkey - and Israel has nothing to do with it.

It's all internal struggles between Sunni and Shiite Muslims between Turkey and Arab countries.

Israel is just standing here looking around and saying to ourselves thank God everything is ok with us we're living in peace and prosperity, and I'm looking around us and seeing all this mess so for the first time after so many years Israel is not to be blamed for the situation in the Middle East.

The second issue is that the majority of the Jewish population in Israel supports the sovereignty move, so this is this became already a sort of a consensus among the Jews living in Israel, that Judea and Samaria should become part of Israel.

I have to say that Netanyahu was traumatized by the Obama administration foreign policy towards Israel culminating in a move by Obama against Israel in the United Nations that many don't know about.

The Trump plan is a bit problematic because on the one hand it says okay Israel apply sovereignty over Judea and Samaria you have historical spiritual religious rights to these lands they belong to you according to God's coven would you just go ahead and do it.

The communities in Judea and Samaria the Jewish communities are here to stay it acknowledges our eternal existence in this land again when we're looking at what was in the past the idea that Israel is going to ethnically cleanse Jews from Judea and Samaria in order to establish a Palestinian state in this area so this is no longer part of the deal

We are here to stay the Jews of Judea and Samaria are here to stay so these are all good things that are part of the deal of the century of the US administration however we see that the idea of a Palestinian state is still part of the picture.

This is something that we definitely oppose the Palestinian state idea has only brought terrorism and grief, not just to Jews living in Israel, but also to act on Arabs.

I speak Arabic, because of my mother she's from Cairo and I have good friends in Arab villages around us, and they're telling me confidentially;

"Aaron, we are tired of the Palestinian state idea we had it with the PLO, these guys are what you brought during the Oslo agreements of the 90s, they're corrupt, they are a dictatorship, they're taxing us, the sons of Abu Mazen are taking all the money that we get from international aid and putting it in their pockets.

We want Israeli sovereignty we want to be under Israeli rule we were looking around us we see how our brothers are being treated in Syria Iraq Iran Egypt we know that if we will be under Israeli sovereignty we'll have a good life."

This is sad, this is a voice that is not sounded on the international media.

What we say his we are for sovereignty, but we were against a Palestinian state.

I would say I would divide it to the short term and the long term in the short term we're talking about a four-year period where the US administration and Israel are waiting for the Palestinian leadership to come forth and agree to certain conditions.

What are these conditions?

The Palestinians need to stop terrorism they need to stop funding terrorism they need to stop paying terrorists for the Jews that they kill,

they have to acknowledge Israel as a Jewish nation state

they have to forgo on the right of return of Palestinian refugees back into the Land of Israel

And there are a couple of other conditions that the Palestinians need to agree to in order to start the process of the deal of the century and the peace process.

During those five year four years there is not going to be any changes a physically in the roads and in the geography, everything is going to stay the same.

After four years we don't know what's going to happen.

The Trump plan, this deal of the century, is historic for the first time it acknowledges Israel's right to Judea and Samaria it acknowledges the right of Jews to live in the biblical heartland of Israel.

I can't believe I say that, acknowledges the right of Jews to live in the biblical heartland of Israel

That's how ironic it is.

So these are good things, these are new things that we never had before.

We just have to do whatever we can to to to change the idea that you know there's going to be a Palestinian state, that there's suffocation of communities, building freeze, blocking of roads, for Jewish commute - which is plain racism.

[I've heard the same feelings said by Palestinians regarding the blocking of roads and horrible daily commute. This is a result of terrorist activity, not the wish of Israelis.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20Rm9MR_UYI

SkyWatch TV 7.16.2020

[voxvulgi]

What's the deal with Gag Gadot?

Under the cut for negativity (and politics-ish???):

Okay so this is probably going to sound personal, and I could say it’s personal as a disclaimer, but??? It isn’t???

I guess a lot of people who openly hated her were called anti-Semitic, and really, a lot of them probably were. But this literally has nothing to do with her being Jewish??? Like, maybe it does for a ton of haters out there, but that’s not the case for me. I’m not even mad she served in the IDF?? Because she was obligated to do so, you know? But I hate this woman with a burning passion because she supports their cause openly, AKA she’s a Zionist. If you don’t know what a Zionist is, that’s a “person who believes in the development and protection of Israel”. Now, why am I mad about this? I’m mad about this because Israel only developed by driving out my ancestors and their neighbours from their homeland. I’m mad because they took down homes and mistreated – to put it lightly – Palestinian citizens until Palestine shrank into the Gaza Strip, the West Bank, and a few smaller cities you don’t even know the name of. I’m mad because Israel continues to cut the water supply and launch attacks on Palestinian territories, and members of the IDF continue to hurt and inconvenience unsuspecting Palestinians for little to no reason. I’m mad because this is supposed to be a “two-state solution”, but all they’re doing is fucking us over, ethnically cleansing the land, and painting us as the bad guys. And when we fight back, we’re te.ror--r.is...ts???? Thanks.

And let’s be real, I probably wouldn’t have hated her this much if she wasn’t cast as Wonder Woman. Because now, she gets to be every girl and every feminist’s hero despite the fact that she’s racist and supports ethnic cleansing of my homeland. And now Wonder Woman is a hero to everyone but me. And I hate that.

[mossadspypigeon]

i love goyim saying anything happening to palestinians = insert specifically jewish word here. that’s coopting, bitch.

POGROM is a word SPECIFIC TO JEWS AND THE JEWISH EXPERIENCE. just like HOLOCAUST IS. pogroms btw? happened long before the shoah and long after. a pro pally not knowing this? SHOCKING!!!!

ALSO THE EVENT WAS PLANNED AROUND THE ANNIVERSARY OF KRISTALLNACHT, SO YES THERE IS A CONNECTION. today is the 86th anniversary.

get your disgusting jew hating goyishe ass away from discussions about JEWISH TRAUMA. don’t tell jews how to talk about our history and oppression. you don’t fucking own it, you entitled piece of shit. we do. it’s ours.

i know about the chants fuckwit. i don’t agree with it, but it doesn’t make attacking jews and throwing them on train tracks and driving into them with cars okay.

especially since this is the shit your side does:

you idiots have been chanting for the ethnic cleansing of jews all year (that’s what your beloved FROM THE RIVER means, same with INTIFADA) and now you have issues with a few people saying fuck arabs? especially when the population that waged an attempt at ethnic cleansing was arab? when arabs chant shit like “khaybar khaybar ya yahood” to remind jews of ONE OF THE MANY TIMES they genocided us?

where is your ire and horror when jews are being attacked and chants for our genocide are being yelled? you don’t give a shit. you justify and defend attacks on us. you cheer when we’re raped, tortured, and murdered. as you did with october 7. our lives mean nothing to you. meanwhile palestinians are held up on pedestals. the racism and double standards are disgusting.

also fuckass? this attack was proven to be premeditated to the point where intelligence warned amsterdam police in advance and mossad accompanied the maccabi soccer team. evidence from the perpetrators’ social media accounts and whatsapp groups have been published. stop getting all of your news from bbc and al jazeera.

when you defend attacks against jews, you sound like an ACTUAL nazi.

the footage coming out of amsterdam is terrifying and horrible. this is a pogrom. this is what “globalize the intifada” means.

[moonlayl]

And that’s your fucking problem.

You guys are insufferable.

“War against terrorism”

It’s NOT a fucking war. It’s ethnic cleansing, it’s genocide, it’s goddamn APARTHEID.

That “terrorism” wouldn’t fucking exist if it wasn’t for the DECADES of war crimes that Israel has committed. It it wasn’t for the THOUSANDS of Palestinians that have been murdered before Hamas ever even became a thing, if it wasn’t for the millions of people that have been displaced ONLY in 1948, much less every fucking year that followed.

It’s like talking to a brick wall.

You’re literally excusing genocide. No, the death of more than 2900 children is NOT worth anything. Even getting rid of a terrorist group that only exists because those same“terrorists” have been brutalized and terrorized and traumatized in the worst of ways for as long as they’ve been alive.

Like your lack of humanity is generally so fucking concerning.

And coming onto my blog on a post about how they’re not even getting fucking water to try and act like you’re concerned and you “don’t want to support this” drop the fucking act.

More than 7000 Palestinians killed. More than 50 families completely wiped out. We’re talking everyone! Parents, grandparents, children, grandchildren, aunts, uncles, cousins, nieces, nephews, etc….entire bloodlines and names are now forever extinct. Entire family trees have been cut off.

Every second a new picture of Gaza drops and it looks similar to the aftermath of a goddamn nuclear bomb, but you’re sitting here and saying “it makes sense”

CHURCHES have been targeted, bakeries, universities, schools, hospitals, bookstores, grocery stores, etc…and that’s justified so they could get a few terrorists.

You probably think the 1 million civilians that were brutally murdered had it coming in Iraq. That it was an unfortunate but necessary casualty.

these are LIVES we’re talking about.

Israel and Israelis are not the fucking victims here. Israel is the one that has spent over 70 years killing, and raping, and dehumanizing, and ethnically cleansing, and displacing Palestinians. Not Hamas.

Israel is the one that has broken international law more than FORTY TIMES and committed war crimes every fucking year of its existence.

Israel is the one that doesn’t even give two shits about its own hostages with the military openly saying getting back the hostages is a problem because it postpones the ground invasion and then initially refusing to accept the two hostages Hamas were willing to release without anything in return,

Israel is the one unwilling for a ceasefire.

Israel is the one that’s been throwing out some of the most racist and vile rhetoric in live television for YEARS.

“They asked civilians to leave northern Gaza” then WHY THE FUCK ARE THEY BOMBING THE SOUTH AS WELL?? And how the fuck are ONE MILLION PEOPLE supposed to evacuate in 24 hours???

Why the fuck did the bomb the route from the north to the south while people were actively fleeing??

Why are Palestinians being murdered in areas that Hamas doesn’t operate from and has no control over?? Huh??? Explain that!

“Nuance”

When it’s about how Hamas are evil monsters that need to be eradicated and Israel is a poor victim (with an advanced military, billions of dollars worth of equipment) that needs to defend itself, no one wants to talk about nuance. Everyone’s quickly to say that a full blown genocide needs to happen because “Israel has the right to defend itself”

But when Israel is committing crimes, and being called out for it after how fucking long??? suddenly it’s “oh but the nuance!” “Oh but it’s not black and white”

“It’s not oppressors/oppressed” yes it fucking is.

Israel has the power to cut off water, electricity, food, humanitarian aid, fuel, and internet access from Gaza. How the fuck is that not a power imbalance?

Israel has ten times the kind of weapon, and international support.

Israel can break international law as many times as it wants and people are okay with it, faces no damn consequences.

Israelis have the ability to leave and go fuck off to the countries they came from at every slight chance there’s gonna be danger. Palestinians don’t get that luxury.

You all trying to ignore the 70+ years of history and oppression and blantant mistreatment of the Palestinian people while simultaneously preaching “nuance” is utter insanity.

No horror that Hamas committed on October 7th is something that Israel itself hasn’t committed against the Palestinians before.

Prior to October 7th more Palestinians had been murdered in 2 years then Israelis had in 20.

Palestinians are treated like third class citizens on their own fucking land. Their homes constantly destroyed, their cities being wiped out completely, them having to relocate to survive, over and over again.

A random Jewish person that has never stepped foot in Israel can gain a citizenship whereas a Palestinian’s who’s great grandfather from 8 generations down was literally born on that land, isn’t able to.

Literally apartheid.

Israel is literally an apartheid state. The actual countries that have globally been recognized to have experienced apartheid are calling it that.

Israel could simply….stop trying to steal more land and stop oppressing Palestinians the way the way they’ve done for decades. That’s a fucking start.

Like you’re literally out here saying “what else was Israel to do other than logically commit genocide and be responsible for the death of thousands of children”

Do you even hear yourself???

And why the fuck can the logic not be applied for Hamas? Why isn’t it ever “the only reason there are Israeli casualties is because of the actions of the Israeli military and government. What else was Hamas supposed to do??”

Because clearly, Israel has done a lot more damage to Palestinians then Hamas can ever even dream of. Just look at the fucking death toll and damages that have occurred in civilian areas in both regions since the very beginning back in 1948. It’s very clear who’s oppressing who. It’s very clear this is not an equal fight or equal war. It’s very clear that Israel has had every advantage and has been mistreating and oppressing the Palestinians for decades while the world let it.

Like I’m using your same logic.

Why should Palestinians care about Israeli lives when Israelis sit there living their lives at the expense of Palestinian lives, huh? (Me, personally, I am very much against innocent Israelis dying, but I’m using your logic. Why should the young Palestinian ppl that grew up being traumatized again and again since the day they were born care about what their oppressors are experiencing??)

Why shouldn’t Palestinians support the ones that say they’re fighting for their freedom? (Again, using your logic here)

Logically speaking, you think young people (and majority of the population of Gaza are very young) are gonna side with a government that’s been responsible for their suffering, or are they gonna side with the ones promising to protect them??

Are they perhaps not making the best choice,? maybe arguably, but what fucking options do they have?

Why do y’all not ever see it that way?

They’re literally victims. They’ve grown up hearing bombs, having family members killed. Being attacked and targeted since they were children.

Why do you all see them as lesser, as inferior?? Why is their suffering not valid enough? And don’t fucking lie and say “it is” because clearly based on your point it isn’t.

When you can watch and see genocide happening and come to the conclusion that “it makes sense” or “I can’t not support it” you’ve lost the damn plot. You clearly don’t think Palestinian lives matter or are worth protecting.

almost 3000 kids dead in just 2 weeks. There are premature babies in Palestinian hospitals right now that will probably die in a few days because the hospitals have completely run out of fuel and the machines keeping them alive can’t work anymore.

These are babies that are only weeks old at most. You think they deserve to die because some Palestinians are “harbouring terrorists”??

Gaza has (had) a population of 2.3 million, you think Israel has the right to kill all of them (more than one million of them are children) just so it wouldn’t risk another Hamas attack?

I have a lot of proof and sources on my blog that prove everything I’ve said. Go through it if you want.

I’ve had it to here with ppl trying to justify genocide to me. Like we’re literally being slaughtered in the hundreds every single day.

How do you justify that? How are you not revolted by Israel’s actions????

oh look "Israel has the right to defend itself" "Israel does not hurt civilians"

I'm sure the lack of usable water won't affect innocent Palestinians at all!!!!

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@my-honest-thots NO, we are not going to do this. That is antisemitism you’re espousing. “Jews” writ-large are not evil, even if the Jewish people in the IDF indiscriminately bombing noncombatant Palestinian civilians, are —and ANYONE who has a problem with that statement can go on and block me.

JFC, there are literally pro-Palestinian Jewish people protesting against Israel. Like, a lot of them. Including, but not limited to, people like Jon Stewart. There are even Jewish people who lost their loved ones on October 7th, who are advocating for peace. And obviously, all Jewish people everywhere aren’t Israeli citizens. And even in Israel there are some Israeli citizens begging and pleading with Netanyahu for peace with Palestine - and they are straight up catching hell and getting assaulted and beaten up by hardline Zionist police and even some of their neighbors for their compassion. And yes, there are even Palestinians being bombed in Palestine who are also Jewish.

And because I know that people often have their own personalized, non-standard definitions for what “Zionism” means, I have included several links to posts about Zionism throughout this response to make myself crystal clear.

Look, I’ve already blocked OP and deleted their comment, but I’m replying because if you’re a pro-Palestinian supporter, it is super important that you do not allow yourself to engage in antisemitism where “all Jews are evil.” We aren’t doing that because eventually it becomes “all Black people,” or “all Muslims,” or “all LGBT people,” and so on. We’re not doing that. Nobody needs to resort to antisemitism to support Palestine, okay? That kind of thinking always leads to Islamophobia, anti-Blackness, white supremacy and white nationalism, and I don’t want any parts of any of that bullshit.

Some reminders:

The Holocaust happened

Antisemitism is real

Islamophobia is real

Jewish ≠ Israeli

Hamas ≠ Palestine

Criticizing Israel ≠ antisemitism

Pro-Palestinian ≠ antisemitism

Israel is committing war crimes, ethnic cleansing and genocide against Palestinians

May the memory of Hind Rajab be a blessing 🇵🇸

tw: child death

The body of a six-year-old Palestinian girl, missing for 12 days after an Israeli tank targeted their family car in Gaza, has been found along with the bodies of two medics dispatched to look for them.

The Palestine Red Crescent Society (PRCS) and the family of the girl, Hind Rajab, confirmed on Saturday that all seven people inside the car were killed, with the Palestinian relief organisation saying it lost crew members Yusuf Zeino and Ahmed al-Madhoun in the Israeli attack on civilians in Gaza City.

Family members found Hind’s body along with those of her uncle and aunt and their three children near a roundabout in the city’s Tal al-Hawa suburb, the Palestinian news agency Wafa reported.

Another of Hind’s uncles, Sameeh Hamadeh, said the car was peppered with bullet holes.

“The occupation deliberately targeted the ambulance upon its arrival at the scene, where it was found just metres away from the vehicle containing the trapped child Hind,” said the PRCS statement.

“Despite prior coordination to allow the ambulance to reach the location to rescue the child, Hind, the occupation deliberately targeted the Palestine Red Crescent ambulance crew.”

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