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the four F’s (and Daisuke)
#mouthwashing#curly mouthwashing#daisuke mouthwashing#anya mouthwashing#swansea mouthwashing#jimmy mouthwashing#talking tag#jimmys flight bc he’s always moving on to the next thing that will ‘fix it’. i know it doesn’t fully fit whatever
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one thing in the mouthwashing fandom that annoys me is when people make those jokes like "Swansea would have killed Jimmy if Anya told him" because like,,,,,, she did and he didn't. but also. i don't think the moral the game is trying to show is that Anya should have picked another man to protect her
#bubby talks#SHE NEEDED LOCKS AND A GUN#THE WHOLE POINT IS THAT IT WAS A MALE DOMINATED FIELD AND THERE WAS NO SECURITY IN PLACE FOR HER BECAUSE SHE WASN'T CONSIDERED#mouthwashing#anya mouthwashing
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there's only four players. curly sat out. no one talk to me (except there's more under the cut)
something about anya and daisuke getting really into games, really into joy is something so special pre-crash. the fact that daisuke is considered "always insanely lucky", too, has importance, even though curly is just talking about board games. when curly breaks the news to everyone and jimmy goes off on his rant, he doubles down about how daisuke will be fine because of his parents, making him, supposedly, "the lucky one."
in the end, daisuke climbed through a vent just to witness either the final moments of anya's life, or to be face-to-face with her corpse. no one could stop it from happening, but jimmy had put so much pressure on him to "save her and curly". when jimmy goes into the medbay looking for disinfectant and he looks to the vent, he says "at least he made it out the other side". was that luck?
daisuke truly was just a damn good kid trying his best.
#yeah so the thing is its gonna be a while until i stop talking about this game#and i mean like#a while. a long time.#when the ost drops i will not be normal the menu music is so relaxing#ahem. anyways#mouthwashing#mouthwashing game#mouthwashing spoilers#mouthwashing 2024#mouthwashing anya#mouthwashing daisuke#mouthwashing curly
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imagine being obsessed with drawing your crush haha couldn't be me 💕
#↑ lying#this is the most self indulging shit i ever drew HANDS DOWN#i am in my damian era rn do not talk to me#(jk ofc i get really happy over interactions 🫂)#the sacred black cover a5 sketchbook is a real story btw#spy x family#damianya#my art#spy x family fanart#anya forger#sxf#damian desmond#sxf fanart#art#fanart#fancomic#emile elman#ewen egeburg
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One scene in the film sees Emma suffer a sudden nosebleed in an emotional moment, and Taylor-Joy somehow managed to start bleeding from her nostril right on cue.
The original plan had been to cut the scene and add the fake blood under Taylor-Joy’s nose, but as she told The Guardian there was no intervention necessary.
“I didn’t know I had that talent until that scene,” said Taylor-Joy. “As soon as my nose started bleeding, [director] Autumn de Wilde and Johnny [Flynn, who played Mr Knightley] both got as excited as me. The crew were going, ‘Cut, cut!’ because they were concerned about me but us three were like: ‘What are you talking about? Keep rolling! This is unbelievable! We have to capture it on film.’”
#emma.#emma. 2020#anya taylor joy#filmedit#fyeahmovies#useraurore#emmaedit#tuserdana#usersjoy#userhers#perioddramaedit#ceremonial#femalegifsource#ladiesofcinema#autumn de wilde#gifs*#this is not talked about enough?????#HOW DID SHE DO THIS
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Who is Anya? For the blind, she is vision. For the hungry, she is the chef. For the thirsty, she is water. If Anya thinks, I agree. If Anya speaks, I'm listening. If Anya has a million fans, I am one of them. If Anya has ten fans, I am one of them. If Anya has only one fan, that's me. If Anya has no fans, I no longer exist. If the whole world is against Anya, I am against the whole world. I will love Anya until my very last breath.
#mouthwashing#mouthwashing anya#anya mouthwashing#mouthwashing game#anya#copypaste#a friend edited this while we talked and i needed to share it#anya fans rise up#we stand for our queen anya mouthwashing
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I think about the fact Anya locking herself in the infirmary with Curly to kill herself and how it is in way reclaiming a space that was initially hers from Jimmy.
Not to mention how she must've been aware of Jimmy's obsession with Curly and the idea that he would lose his power over the both of them (based on the fact she likely thought they would never get the door open) and having to face the responsibility of two deaths being on his hands as acting captain.
It was her final act of agency stuck on that ship with her abuser and it says something that she chose to die next to Curly, despite his inaction, leaned against him as if they were just in a casual conversation before her death. Despite everything, Anya made the final decision on her own terms and it speaks volumes considering her treatment and demeanor up until that point.
#sadly this did not work but I slso assume that she chose to use all the pills because she did not htink theyd be able to keep curly alive#too much longer without her knowledge and seeing how everyone died almost immediately following her death well...#I think Anya is merciful and would've killed Curly if she did not feel like Jimmy would retaliate as she would understand being at the merc#of someone who only resents you and sees you less than a person now. Like do i think she fully forgave him for not doing much and possibly#crashing the shit? no but i think she can understand his hesitation just a bit better in those final moments#also small headcanon is she knew he likley didn't cause the crash just due to how Jimmy talked of it and Curly being at fault because you c#even tell when Jimmy is avoiding the truth or lying in a lie and he was much to eager to constatnly talk down to Curly rather than wonder#why his closest friend would also do something like that much like Curly was confused and shocked Jimmy actually did it and she died knowin#Curly was at least innocent about that#anya mouthwashing#mouthwashing anya#curly mouthwashing#mouthwashing curly#captain curly#mouthwashing#mouthwashing game#mouthwashing spoilers#suicide tw#tw suicide
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I didn't really think about this before, but in the iconic proposal scene, twilight thinks "until my mission do us part" and yor thinks "until my killing do us part". twilights bit made sense to me bc he planned to eventually end the family, but for Yor I was kinda like "oh endo must have just needed a parallel and yor doesn't have a specific end in mind so he must've just went with 'until my killing do us part' even if it doesn't make as much sense".
but i realized that maybe by "my killing" Yor didn't necessarily mean her job killing people, but rather HERSELF being killed? like was her life prior to the forgers just doing jobs until an inevitable end? cruise arc showed us that she found her new reason (family) to keep going with garden, but before that, was she just like. waiting for the one job that'd end up killing her?
idk maybe this was really obvious but I didn't realize LOL
#yor :(((((#on an unrelated note ive been seeing people saying anyas backstory is next in the manga#but i feel like yors would come first?#like from a storytelling pov i think anyas would be saved for last#since she's kinda like the glue that binds the family together#But i dont know#all this to say that when we get yors in depth backstory ill probably go insane#spy x family#yor forger#dia talks
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This is still one of my favorite interactions between Anya and Loid
#spy x family#anya forger#loid forger#don’t listen to that man when he says it’s ‘just a mission’#he immediately understood exactly what she was talking about#that’s Advanced Dad Shit™️
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HEADCANON: Becky 100% gets her first Tonitrus Bolt when she snaps and publicly cusses out a teacher for being a jerk.
You think so, huh?
#myart#my art#art#sketch#spy x family#Becky’s first bolt#full color version on ko-fi#drawing the kids in the transition phase of canon designs to mine is hard#what are even children#damianya#damien desmond#bill watkins#becky blackbell#anya forger#emile elman#ewen egeburg#Becky: notorious verbal murderer#that not funny forger gimme back my money#you can’t just take back a donation#think of the children#I did and I hate you#Anya hand me my half#I won the bet Damien owes me twenty#stay out of it Emile#you’re such an ass Emile#hey real talk should we help Bill#I value my eyes Ewen#no you don’t your stupid hair makes that clear#no wait please Ewen I didn’t mean it OW HEY THATS MY POMPADOUR ASSHOLE!#sxf fanart
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I love how, despite being batshit insane sometimes, SxF still has some moments that are extremely realistic about children and their poor stressed out parents like anya destroying brand new clothes
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Everything we know about Project Apple (and, by extension, Anya's past) thus far
thought i'd compile all of that now while endo's on break Just In Case the next chapter happens to start anya's backstory (i don't Think it will but endo likes surprising us LSDFKLFS)
important disclaimer that project apple and the organization in charge of anya's experiments have not been confirmed to be related! there's evidence that they have things in common, in particular employees, but that's our only real connection between the two thus far. still! worth looking into
more under the cut!
so, starting very strongly with the very first mention of anything related to the project: anya's introduction in chapter 1
despite her being a main character, we know very little about her past at the moment, and this little blurb at the beginning makes up a very big portion of what we know.
things to note here:
as an experiment, her name was "Test Subject 007". important to note that the notation differs between her and bond: she was Test Subject 007, bond was Subject 8, no zeroes in there;
she had been made thus by accident, the phrasing itself implying quite heavily that she was just a normal child before said accident (but this is the translation! i don't know japanese so i can't cross-reference with the raws to clarify if the phrasing changes anything, but the fanbook uses the word "gained" to describe her powers too);
because her mind-reading is an unintended consequence, that means the scientists were presumably not, at least initially, trying to achieve cognitive enhancements in humans, and were instead trying to achieve something else, whatever that might've been;
she escaped from the facility and then moved from institution to institution, looking for a family.
so, crucially, through this little introduction we learn that there is an organization, government-funded or otherwise, that is or was conducting human experiments for unknown purposes. we also learn that whatever family anya had prior to being involved in the experiments is more than likely unreachable, at least as far as she knows, and so she has settled for finding a new family to take care of her instead.
in terms of the facility itself, here we see they clearly drilled it into her that she can't ever reveal her secret (and the darn plush is there too -- in the anime it's even more emphasized, as you can see in the gif i made)
through her reminiscing though, we get our very first look at the scientists that were in charge of her! they're in the gif above but here they are in the manga too. it's so interesting that the anime actually shows their eyes behind the glasses though, fascinating choice.
the insistence on world peace is important, as it explains her own personal obsession with it and shows that it's not just because of twilight's own focus on preserving the peace. i also don't think twilight ever really talks about "world peace," only about "preserving the current peace between westalis and ostania" -- anya seems to be the only one talking about WORLD peace (even in the very first scene where either of them mention it in proximity to each other in ch 1, loid says "understanding the other party is the first step towards peace" and anya's interpretation is "understanding me makes world peace?") but take this with a grain of salt because i might be wrong! going through every single mention of peace in the story just to fact check this one little trivia fact is a bit much i think so i'm not doing it JSDFKLSD
but yes
remember mr hair strand and baldy, we'll see them again. not her though, ig she wasn't in charge of bond
now, fast-forwarding to chapter 19, we finally get a name and a premise for the experiments:
"but oana," you might say, "this is talking about animals only! how do we know it's the same project as anya's, which involved human experimentation?"
i don't think it is, is the thing! i think it's related to the experiments anya was a part of, which is evidenced by the same scientists being featured in project apple too, but there's more going on that we don't know about. there wouldn't be such adamancy on keeping the two separate in every official mention of them if they were just the same thing, imo!
back to the evidence, we learn that the project, conducted and funded by the previous ostanian regime (meaning donovan's related to it one way or another, since he was prime minister), was marked by franticness and desperation -- a prime place for accidents like anya's telepathy and bond's future vision.
we also learn that the project was sacked by the new administration and that the former test subjects ended up on the black market.
(this makes it very important, imo, to learn when anya escaped the facility vs. when the project was sacked. it's clearly no longer in function, but while we've heard nothing from them thus far, i'm willing to bet the shady dealings around the desmond group are NOT related to the war, as W.I.S.E. has been led to believe, but rather to reignite project apple. that is speculation however so i'm going to refrain from theorising much on why the desmond group is focused on acquiring pharmaceutical companies!!)
ok speculation tangent over, back on track
so, that's already a decent amount of info! but moving to chapter 22, when bond is finally home, and we finally see some familiar faces
behold! baldy and mr hair strand!
and 2 other guys we don't know but will see again in another bond flashback!
that's 2 out of the 3 scientists we've seen thus far from anya's own time as subject 007, confirming that there IS a connection between anya and bond's experiments, regardless of whatever the project anya was a part of might've been named.
this is also the chapter in which we learn that bond himself was subject 8 (or, if we take it from the fanbook, subject #8. still, diff notation from anya!)
in chapter 31, we learn an interesting tiny piece of trivia. we don't get any further info on it, but it IS mentioned as something that is known by W.I.S.E.:
ostania is rumoured to have done human experimentation! and W.I.S.E., and by extension loid, are aware of that.
do i know how them knowing may be important later? not really!
the next droplet of info we get is in chapter 40. we see that project apple had collaborators that are still functioning unhindered.
of course, born industries is only rumoured to have been involved with project apple, but regardless of whether or not they actually were, the rumour itself implies that the project likely pulled scientists from various other companies' R&D departments.
(this makes the desmond group's acquisition of glooman pharmaceuticals shadier, but anyway)
as a side note, twilight is emoting so much at just his wrong assumption that bond is seeking revenge against the scientists. imagine how he's going to react when he finds out about anya JKSDFKLFSD
and now aaaaall the way in chapter 58, we see the bald guy who anya also knows, the two scientists from bond's previous flashback, and one whole new guy!
and thus ends our current knowledge of it all!
the only other thing worth discussing is anya's knowledge of classical language
but plenty people have already discussed these scenes, especially recently, so here are some links: 1 | 2 | 3
the only thing i can add is that i'm fairly certain that classical language is a lot more likely to be latin than old english, because it's a very common language to learn in school (in europe at least, and ostania is based on east germany so it makes sense to me. i learned mandatory latin in school for a few good years too, even if i wasn't that good at it lol) and because one of the most common modern usages of latin are in medicine and science, it would make sense that she'd be better at it due to exposure.
a possibility is also that the scientists would think in latin to conceal their thoughts from her, and that's how she ended up learning so much. she's not fluent in latin, she's just well acquainted and that cicumstance would explain the how.
BUT THAT'S SPECULATIONNN
also i don't think "ANIA" is an acronym, nor do i think anya's been misspelling her own name out of lack of knowledge. "ania" is a polish diminutive of anna and an alternate transcription of Аня, so i think it's far more likely that anya isn't ostanian or westalian than it is that her name comes from an acronym.
now,
TL;DR!
what we know about project apple (and the "mysterious organization"):
project apple was funded and conducted by what appears to have been donovan's regime and, from what W.I.S.E. knows, aimed to create highly intelligent animals for military purposes;
W.I.S.E. is aware that ostania is at the very least rumoured to have dabbled in human experimentation;
the project is presumably no longer on-going, though it is likely there are efforts behind the scenes to revive it;
it is rumoured but not confirmed that project apple had collaborating companies that are still functioning perfectly fine;
the same scientists who were in charge of bond were also in charge of anya, signalling that there is a very significant connection between project apple and the "mysterious organization;"
based on what they were telling anya, they were/are very focused on "world peace";
their experimentation methods include but likely aren't limited to electrocution.
and what we (vaguely) know about anya that relates to this:
she is at the youngest, 4 years old, and at the oldest, 5 nearing 6. we don't know her real age, all we know is she definitely lied about being 6;
she is very fixated on specifically world peace while twilight is focused on peace between ostania and westalis. the scientists are the very first we see talking about this, so it's likely their fault;
she is unreasonably well acquainted with classical language;
she has escaped the facility at LEAST 1 year ago;
and, one tidbit from the fanbook (page 29): "Anya has been reading minds for as long as she can remember," implying that her memory of a life before the lab is muddy at best and absent at worst.
that's all we know that i know of!!
if you got this far, thank you for reading :D hope any of this was interesting or sparked any theories >:] have a good day!
#sxf#spy x family#manga spoilers#project apple#anya forger#bond forger#sxf manga#spy x family manga#sxf manga spoilers#spy x family manga spoilers#analysis#meta#I DIDN'T OWN THE FANBOOK WHEN I FIRST MADE THE DRAFT FOR THIS BUT THEN I BOUGHT IT well my brother bought it for me#bless his heart#AND SO I WANTED TO READ THE ENTIRE THING BEFORE CONTINUING ON!!! didn't find much out in relation to this post specifically but#there's quite a lot to infer on how anya's powers work#and there's a distinction between what she reads (internal voices vs mind reading which would be digging into someone's subconscious)#so that would be super interesting to talk about but uh not in this post KLSDFJSDKL since it has little bearing on the project itself
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Local Floriography Bitch Emerges from Hibernation Because Cute Spy Found Family Romcom Has Cheeky Flower Shot!
Alright, let's get the Basic Bitch of Floriography addressed first, which means looking at Bond and his Yellow Rose
Roses are the flower that even people who know next to nothing about Floriography usually know on sight, but it's still cute that they gave the flower representing Friendship to Man's Best Friend.
Moving Counterclockwise through the picture, our next subject is Yor, sporting a fetching Orchid on her hairband.
Orchids symbolize Beautiful Woman, Refinement, Grace, and Uniqueness, and while it's 100% accurate for Yor, a part of me started to strongly suspect here that Loid is responsible for everyone's blooms, and used to opportunity to give discreet messages to his family without them knowing what he's telling them. (sneaky sneaky~)
Speaking of Loid, the man himself is up next, standing slyly with a Blue Aster.
Asters are also known as Starflowers, a sneaky nod to Loid's codename Twilight. And like roses, asters have different meanings depending on the colors you choose. Blue asters just so happen to symbolize Trustworthiness and Faithfulness. The perfect flower to represent a hardworking family man devoted to his wife and daughter! And certainly not the sort of thing one would associate with an undercover spy!
And finally, there is the last Forger Family Flower, and a brutal suckered punch to my soul;
Anya, and her Cosmos.
Just like with Loid's Aster, Cosmos are also flowers associated with the stars, and have even been called "Mexican Asters." Which doesn't feel like an accident when Anya here is mimicking Loid's pose and holding the flower to her lips. And Cosmos have a very, VERY special meaning.
"Hold My Hand and Walk With Me"
#spy x family#loid forger#anya forger#yor forger#twiyor#bond forger#forger family#floriography#I did notice other OP/EDs also had flower symbolism in them#might go back and talk about those too...
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MOUTHWASHING
#craziest fucking game ever#im so obsessed rn#this is literally all i talk about oops#my art#digital art#mouthwashing#mouthwashing game#wrong organ#cw blood#cw gore#cw body horror#cw violence#jimmy mouthwashing#anya mouthwashing#captain curly#daisuke mouthwashing#swansea mouthwashing#mouthwashing fanart#video game fanart#made with adobe fresco#i don't even play video games i just thought this one was really cool lol
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Keep it together.
#anya mouthwashing#mouthwashing#traditional art#sketch#taydraws#uncertain-tay#she has a lot of depth to talk about#and hinted past regrets#a full and complex life brought to a halt in so many ways#she wasn’t even allowed her grief or anger or anything at all
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I don't feel safe saying this on twitter, but genuinely, where is all the jimmy x curly shipping I keep hearing about? Y'all talk about it like it's one of the core problems of the fandom, but I've seen maybe 6 fanarts of the ship. Most of the drawings and writing with them together just portrays the abuse in different ways and in no way advertises the idea that Jimmy and Curly were/are/should be in a romantic or sexual relationship.
Genuinely where are you finding all that?
#mouthwashing#captain curly#jimmy#jimmy x curly#i'm asking because it now feels like a fucking strawman we can all supposedly gather around and laugh at#and tbh?#its getting boring#i'd much rather read an interpretation of their relationship as romantic or see the ship art at this point#because the conversation is now basically “oh everybody wants to see that toxic yaoi but nobody wants to talk about anya smh”#who's everybody
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