#[sinner Adam probably]
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randomrandomalright · 1 month ago
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The reason I love the theory (Adam did not eat the apple) which is if you don’t know when Lucifer tempted them to eat the apple, only Eve ate it- Adam either did not do it or wasn’t there-
The reason I love this theory is because it gives a extra layer to Adam (who currently feels so one-sided) to me, him not eating the apple, gave him no moral code/compass, he doesn’t know right from wrong, he believes everything he does it right (ergo: I never a f*cking mistake in my life)- he believes what he doing is right, via what the seraphim tell him, manipulating him into doing the dirty work- the wrong thing, since he is only human who doesn’t know. Now does this excuse his actions? Not in the slightest! But does it give him a explanation to why he behave like this? In my eyes, yes! (Because he doesn’t know better!!!!)
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mistystarshine · 10 months ago
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Have a quick preview of the fic I'm working on! I finished the first chapter in one day and will probably post it tomorrow. Admittedly, the first chapter is short - 2.9k - but the actual beginning of the fic is split between two chapters due to how I'm formatting it. Expect lengths to vary wildly.
I still need to figure out a name for this thing. RIP.
Edit: It exists now
“Adam,” Charlie tries again. When she does not get an immediate response, she snaps her fingers a few times. Finally, finally, his attention shifts back to her, and she can get a move on. “Do you want to redeem yourself?” Adam’s ears twitch. He glances at Alastor. Alastor smiles down at him, and he looks back down at the floor. “…Sure,” he grits out. “Sure?” Alastor sighs heavily. “After all you did to hurt my friends, I expected far better than sure, Adam.” He looks like he’s trying to hide it, but Charlie catches the shudder that runs through Adam’s body before he looks up and, through fanged, gritted teeth, says, “I want to be redeemed. Let me into your hotel.” Alastor hums. “Let me into your hotel…?” Adam takes in a painful-sounding breath and closes his eyes. “Please,” he whispers, so soft that Charlie can barely believe it. So impossible that it takes her a moment to realize that she did hear it. Charlie looks between Adam and Alastor with eyes wide with disbelief, or maybe something else entirely. “What did you do?” she asks. “I figured you could use a helping hand, so I got a misguided soul onto the path of redemption,” Alastor cheerfully says. “He’s already made an incredible amount of progress, wouldn’t you say?” “Fuck,” Vaggie whispers. Charlie swallows. “Thank you, Alastor,” she says, because Adam has made progress. He certainly never would have spoken to her politely before, let alone say please, and what is that if not progress? Alastor is helping her, helping the hotel, and Charlie should be grateful for that. She feels like she’s going to vomit.
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randombfb · 11 months ago
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karothefool · 11 months ago
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more redesigns I forgot to post
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i have some changes i’m making to charlie’s and adam’s for my AU i’m planning but otherwise here they are
quick summary of the changes i made:
- Husk is trans
- Charlie goes all in on the hotel metaphor
- adam has another pair of wings and i made his horns into his halo
- made angel dust reflect his death more (imo) by giving him a more “mobster” look to him
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whimsythepuntable · 5 months ago
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The existence of redeemed Sir Pentious AUs where he doesn't remember Hell implies the existence of at least one sinner Adam AU where he doesn't remember shit about his life in Heaven.
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hairdestroyer · 10 months ago
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Decided I’d hop on this while it’s at least still the same month lmao
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thesupernaturalhouse · 9 months ago
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More elaboration on ep6, from this post
So I do think imma split ep6 into 2 parts. Jsut because I do want to go more into detail about heaven and sera
Cause it's clear Sera doesn't LIKE doing the extermination, but thinks it's necessary. I also wanna add some stuff into the trial
Lute asks why angle didn't get here in heaven, and charlie says that 'because he DID committed sins. I'm not denying that- but he's TRYING he's getting better- he's not perfect, but he's trying the best he can, and he deserves a second shot."
I wanna add in them challenging chalries pov more, cause I do think there are flaws in it, like. Not ever sinner should be redeemed. Not every sinner wants to be redeemed. And there are vile souls down in hell
Like, I'm sure not all are evil, and some are down there for small sins or, like, killing someone in self-defense. But there are absolutely vile people like Valentino down there that shouldn't be redeemed
And I also kidna wanna make that part of charlies character arc, realizing not everybody SHOULD be redeemed. Not everybody deserves a second chance.
And I wanna like, explore that more in the trial, it want it to focus on back and forths. And then when Sera is starting to seriously consider that 'hey, maybe this could work, we could try and examine souls again' Lute and Adam try to rig it in their favor
Exposing Vaggie, but at the same time what they did, helping Charlies point. And then exposing EMILY when that fails
And oh boy, is that a shit show! I think Sera would be too in shock to really do anything in the moment, and I do think Adam would kinda take advantage of that, like 'those people corrupted your sister and made her fall can we kill them? Pleaseeeee'
And I think he'd spat out a 'fine' just so he leaves her a lone to process it all. She 100% regrets giving him an okay later once she's processed it all, but it's too late by that point
Side note; a theory I have is that she was fed false information, maybe by Adam maybe by lillith, that Hell was planning an uprising. We'll, I have to see
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saltwatersweets · 10 months ago
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i like to imagine that sometime in between ep7 and ep8, charlie takes vaggie to cannibal town to help train some of the residents who will fight in the upcoming extermination, and while visiting vaggie sees the kid she spared and maybe gets to have a proper conversation with him and/or his family
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#i know that vaggie probably looks rather different than she did three+ years ago when she fell#but i definitely feel as though if you were a sinner who was about to be brutally stabbed by an angel#and then she Didnt Stab You#i think you’d be able to recognize her even if you’re fairly young#(also i know some people think that all the cannibals are hellborn but i believe that some are sinners and some are hellborn)#(this child being hellborn would make no sense because that means vaggie was kicked out for sparing a hellborn child)#(aka doing what she is legally supposed to do)#(so being a cannibal will probably get you into hell regardless of age)#also i really like the idea of vaggie and charlie getting to see the good that came out of her actions#assuming lute and adam didnt just go immediately kill the child she spared (it can be applied the extermination ended almost immediately#after vaggie fell given that you can see charlie walking around looking for injured sinners just a few minutes later so hopefully the#child survived)#then i like to believe the child ran home and got to tell the people who care for him that story#and maybe someone will even thank vaggie for her mercy#in a very strange way givennthat they are cannibals and all#think of a cat who kills mice and gives them to you. that’s probably how cannibals show love except with human limbs#anyways i want to write a one shot about this tbh#my post#hazbin hotel#hazbin hotel vaggie#hazbin vaggie#hazbin hotel cannibal town#cannibalism#should probably tag that just in case lmfao#does this cannibal child have a name#im calling him#spared cannibal child#very very original and thoughtful name i know i know#hazbin hotel charlie#charlie morningstar
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onesidedradiostatic · 11 months ago
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do you think alastor got to kill his victims again when he arrived in hell, or would they have been quickly picked off soon after they arrived, before he got there :( given his code (?) Hell provided him an all-you-can-eat buffet, no wonder he made such an entrance. like a fox in a henhouse. it’s interesting that even in Hell there are sinners who don’t meet his kill criteria, i wonder if that decision was in place right from his arrival, or came a little later
imagine the awkwardness if some victim didn’t even show up in hell, (possible as the assignment criteria are flawed) would probably inspire alastor to kill god
oh yeah they would probably end up in hell too huh, honestly if they weren't already finished off by exterminations, then yeah alastor probably went ahead and broadcast their screams himself
any of his victims not ending up on hell would be crazy though that's basically god straight up saying he disagrees with alastor's code lmaooooo, but considering adam, not impossible I guess
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seventeenjackson · 10 months ago
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So I know this is weird. But I decided to make an oc x canon. I thought it would be fun, since Adam is so much into rock it’d be funny if he met someone of a famous metal band. Finally someone to put him in his place.
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mossdoesartshit · 9 months ago
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hellooo i promise im working on sinner adam stuff the next part is just really big... after tha just a bit more and arc 1 is done, qnd arc 2 will be a buncha slice of life things!!
on qnother note, how do you do that "read moee unser the cut thing" i feel like it would be beneficial for rhe nexr post
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normystical · 9 months ago
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idk. some sinner adam concept stuff.
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since we're all kinda doing our own designs and stuff, thought i'd do my own as well since i'm interested in the idea
not sure on the details. had like 2 older concepts not shown here. wasn't sure on the hair but i decided and changed some of these. input would be niceee,,,
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definetelynotavampire · 9 months ago
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Lemme guess...Fyodor is a rat overlord lmfao?
yeah he definetely has the potential TT hot take but i also see him at the hotel for redemtion bc he wants to see his bestie in heaven (Jesus)
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lightbringer-morningstar · 3 months ago
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@lettherebemonsters asked:
"I don't care what you want." (Adam at Lu!)
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"Right, yeah, well, you've done the most you could to make that painfully clear now, haven't you?" he clicks his tongue. At this point he's done all he can to try to assist Adam, he figured he owed it to him when this all first started off. With the urging of his daughter, he had not much against the idea, help another sinner find redemption. What they hadn't expected was exactly how much resentment and push-back Adam would hold against any progress.
"I'll tell you again, since you seem to want to keep up this imaginary fight—I only want to help out with this pathway back to Heaven for ya and I promised both you and Charlie that I would put my best foot forward but if we really wanna get down to the nitty gritty of it all, well, the fact of the matter is, I really don't have a horse in this race. So, with that being said, if you really don't want anything to do with me, then that's that, I suppose. You say the word and bing-o bang-o, I'm gone and you'll be free to do as you please without my checking in."
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primordialruin · 2 months ago
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I will never push my ships on anyone. I'll suggest it, but I'm not going to insist if you're not with it. I'm an artist and writer, if I want to indulge in it, I can make my own stuff so dw 👌
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adyophene · 1 month ago
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Radiotrio day 6: Roleswap!
Alastor - Charlie
Husk - Vaggie
Niffty - Angeldust
Deets under cut!
"Alastor":
Alastor is actually Cain going under a pseudonym. He's trying to redeem sinners not out of the goodness of his heart, but as a fuck you towards Adam, his estranged deadbeat Father. He vaguely believes redemption is possible, but on the outside he gives off the vibe of thinking its nonsense. Eve, who is in hell, is the one payrolling the whole thing. As the first Sinner in hell she holds a bit of power. (Eve - Lucifer swap)
Al exclusively advertises the Hotel through radio commercials and jingles and doesn't really care that it is probably is why no one knows about it.
"Husk":
A fallen angel who always fucked off and drank and gambled during exterminations instead of killing sinners. When he caught his wings were chopped off and he was left for dead. Alastor found him and offered him a deal. Al would keep Husk's identity secret so long as Husk worked for him. Husk tried to refuse and goad Al into finishing him off, but was instead lured into a bet. He lost and became Al's right hand cat.
Husk doesn't believe in redemption at all. He is trapped in Heaven's mindset that once you fucked up you're done forever. He puts up with Al's antics with a heavy amount of booze.
Niffty:
Hell's favorite killing machine. Niffty is a weapons spokesperson working for Carmilla. She's recorded by a camera crew when she goes out to kill his rivals and its all pitched as a fun and brutal reality show with a star who revels in the thrill of the hunt. Niffty loves her craft and is extremely skilled, but is becoming burnt out. She suffers from an addiction to amphetamines to keep up her 'high energy camera persona'. (When exhausted she just ends up freezing out and staring into the camera ala the gag in the show.)
Niffty is ambivalent about redemption, but likes to stay at the hotel cause she likes Al and Husk, and because it gives her a break from work.
Charlie: A former human who made a deal with Lucifer so she could come down to hell and try to help the undeserving sinners there. She is absolutely ecstatic about the hotel and is all but overbearing in trying to help Alastor achieve his goal.
Vaggie: A sinner who went to hell for her 'extremely violent tendencies', despite the fact that all her actions were in the protection of herself and family/home. Charlie found her in the aftermath of a territory dispute, and after helping her/hearing about her backstory, all but glued Vaggie to her side. Vaggie doesn't believe in redemption, due to her guilt/shame over her violent past, but is dragged along by Charlie.
Angeldust:
Charlie's mysterious and excitable friend. Angel loves a good 'naughty boy' and doesn't so much as clean, but rather struts about posing in whatever meido costume he likes for the day. Charlie knows his past and is the reason he works at the hotel. She thinks he is a good candidate for redemption. Angel doesn't really care either way and is just happy for a shit easy job that he can dress up cute for and slack off all he likes!
I don't know when, but I might come back to this roleswap idea in the future and expand out other swaps!
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