#; PATRICK U ARE JUST A FUCKING ICON

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happy (late) halloween omg ace! i am so glad to see we are all in shambles over the halloween show i swear matty chose violence (quite literally) with the patrick bateman costume like..... will instantly be imprisoned if I voiced my thoughts about those photos bye-

also the halloween blurb???????? mainly just sending this to scream ab how it literally killed me bye this is so stupid but it instantly made me so happy to read after work and oh i am weepy and weak at the idea of annie masterminding a group costume 😭 even the simplest or ur writings i absolutely adore (still not over the massive list of pre reader dad matty blurbs oh that made my DAY i tell u...)

can we just.... the idea of annie begging u to join them trick or treating,,,, and reader meeting mayhem and mayhem holding the candy bucket in his mouth while annie shows u how well she can walk the 'massive horse dog' 😭😭 and the way u just fit in their unit together so well... oh matty absolutely can feel his heart bursting at the sight gn (and also u getting mistaken for being annies mom/his wife multiple times and the way he just cannot handle how oddly right it feels.... bye!)

(bff anon hopes ur doing better ace! just know basically anything u post..... ive basically read bye need to stop lurking like an insane person 💀 xx)

HAPPY VERY LATE HALLOWEEN!!! It is my fault this is so late, I just couldn't stop talking… are we shocked tho? Jail is calling my name with some of the things I said in dms… let alone my thoughts FUCKING HELL. it was too good-

Stop I'm so glad you liked it, I just love them on Halloween so much. The fact that it made you happy after work actually just added 20 years to my life I'm so glad!!!! I made your day?!?!? Please I'm gonna vomit. You are so sweet and kind. Those ideas were all so fucking good, a google doc has been created bc I loved them so much. You are a genius truly.

Literally, this idea has been living in my mind rent-free in my mind ever since you sent it. MAYHEM HOLDING THE BUCKET YOU'RE KIDDING. Any mayhem content and I am obsessed (hence the mayhem reference in the actual fic), but this image has me sobbing.

(lots more insanity below the cut)

I am gonna alter what you said so slightly bc teacher girlie is PROFESSIONAL and she has work/life boundaries… sometimes… let's say Annie does BEG you to come trick or treating with them and you have to break it to her that you definitely cannot do that but you hope she has the best time ever. “But miss y/n I want you to meet my doggy, he's coming with us. He's gonna be scooby doo! My daddy is shaggy, and I’m Daphne. He's trying to get my uncle George to be Fred, but he wants to have a party with my auntie Charli. They are gonna be-” You have to cut in before Annie gives you a detailed list of everyone she knows costumes (but also, isn't the Scooby gang iconic for them all?!). 

You, of course, have a pumpkin out and are waiting for trick-or-treaters and have the full-size chocolate bars because you always wanted to be that house. A knock at your door happens, and you come running to it in your Wizard of Oz costume. Who is behind that door but the whole Healy family? Matty just makes a noise of shock that he later over-thinks massively, “but Ross, it was such a weird noise. I basically choke-coughed at her. No stop laughing-” Ross eventually assures Matty you didn't notice. 

You did and later tease him about it when you finally get together, “I swear I had to actually bite the inside of my cheek to not laugh, it was so ridiculous” and Matty is like “Can you blame me?? You were in that cute little dress, and you had those plaits with the bows on the end. You were asking me to choke on thin air when you dress like that, sweetheart.” And you're like… “well I think I still have that costume in my wardrobe upstairs if you'd be interested in-”. Immediately, his face lights up, “WHICH ONE? THE BIG WARDROBE OR THE SMALL ONE?” he shouts whilst dragging you up the stairs as you giggle uncontrollably.

Anyway, sorry I got distracted, HALLOWEEN! They're reasonably late in the night, and somehow Matty gatherers himself enough to talk to you, “ohmygod hi!” he says and awkwardly waves, another moment he thinks about far too often (“Why couldn't I do anything normal around you.” and you reassure him “dont worry, babe. it was cute, I swear”) 

Annie perks up and shows you mayhem who just adores you, wagging his tail and you bend down to his level and he's licking all over your face and you just can't stop laughing, matty is mortified. “Oh god y/n I’m so sorry he isn't normally this friendly, very weird actually… but please just- oh mayhem please can you stop-” and he's tugging at the lead trying not to die of embarrassment.

You insist it is fine, and Annie begs you to walk him “Just for a little bit miss y/n! Because then you can see how strong he is and then how strong I am because I walk him all by myself” This comment has you looking at Matty behind her who just shakes his head, confirming that this, in fact, is not true and just another Annie exaggeration.

You agree, grab your bag and come to walk with them for a bit, only after confirming with Matty about 30 times that it's really okay, “are you sure I do not want to intrude” you ask and Matty just dies at your kind eyes looking up at him whilst cuddling mayhem.

“Of course! I'm sure Dorothy would be good friends with the Scooby gang. Please, walk with us” and he offers his hand to pull you up. It's the first time you've really touched, and god, the spark flying thing may seem like a fairytale, but you both swear in that moment that you actually get a shock from the touch. Of course, his hand lingers a little longer than necessary as you stare at each other just vaguely holding hands. Your brain catches up, and you start moving, but god, you wish that moment could've dragged on forever, as does Matty.

As soon as you and Matty get properly talking, you end up walking with them for a longgg time. One house in particular though makes a mistake that lives on in infamy in your relationship in the future.

“oh god, that one house that thought we were together, that moment was on replay in my head for weeks after. The idea that someone else could see us together just confirmed to me I was head over heels for you, and then sadly solidified that it couldn't happen after you corrected her and I was sharply reminded you were my daughter's teacher”

Maybe it's an older woman who opens the door and jumps at mayhem originally but is soon cooing over him and giving him milk bones, “What a pretty boy” and Annie is giggling and telling the woman all about her “horse dog” (nice reference btw bff anon I love u).

Soon, she looks up and actually addresses you and Matty, “Sorry! You must be mum and dad. What a lovely little girl you've raised, and what a beautiful couple you are! Reminds me of me and my husband, constantly talking and laughing” You and matty just stand there open-mouthed like fish for a good few seconds. Annie is, of course, laughing hysterically. You both stutter out explanations, “Oh no-” “Oh I'm actually her teacher. It's a funny story so they knocked and i was like-” Of course, the woman apologised profusely, but the comment haunts you and Matty for WEEKS.

Perhaps a few more people coo at your “lovely family” and perhaps you just… stop correcting them…

Cut to Matty talking to himself (and mayhem) at 3 a.m. in the kitchen whilst making tea, “No it's totally normal people thought that. Man + woman + child + dog = family. and so what we stopped correcting them?? That's normal too… We just got sick of it. And it's also fine that it made me feel weird. It was a weird situation. Anyone would get butterflies at someone saying they're a nice couple. Right, mayhem?” and Mayhem somehow gives him a look that says “Really?” and Matty sighs and nods.

I think this might be the moment he goes “fuck.” and realises he really does like you. And he just… freaks out. Calls Ross and talks a million miles an hour.

I'M SO SORRY I LITERALLY CANT SHUT UP, WHEN WILL I STOP?!

I am doing much better and I literally cannot believe someone likes my bullshit enough to read my posts, I am genuinely obsessed with you?!?! KEEP LURKING I LOVE IT! I LOVE YOU!!!

blurb masterlist here!!

[wheresurboytonighthelookslikeenj]

hi malloy i want to listen to more fob do you have any song recommendations?

hellow vic! gosh how do i recommend fob to someone when the discography is so large and varied... hmmmmmm

ok i’ll separate by album so you can like choose what you wanna listen to depending on your style, with one gateway song that i think is a good intro to it and a personal fav

under the cut because i got carried away (like seriously i ended up writing a paragraph for each album 💀) but there are eight albums so sixteen recs for you👍

malloy’s crash course in fob albums + what to listen to first

take this to your grave — their first official album, a pop punk staple, extremely pop punk very clearly showing their hardcore roots:

gateway song: grand theft autumn/where is your boy (teehee its my url song but also i believe every person dipping their toes into the scene needs to listen to this song. it’s that iconic)

a fav that u should also listen to: saturday (this song means a lot to the band! they close every single show with it! and also it goes off!!)

from under the cork tree — the breakthrough album, the album with sugar we’re goin down and dance dance, another pop punk staple but now with slightly more pop friendly elements:

gateway song: a little less sixteen candles a little more “touch me” (another hit single and also just. a bop. an absolute bop)

a fav that u should also listen to: the music or the misery (this one isnt even on the actual album it’s technically an additional track from a deluxe edition. however i think it’s going to be in my spotify top 5 this year. the hook goes SO hard)

infinity on high — probably the most popular among fans? ive already said this album is insane it had such a perfect mix of their pop punk sound with stuff like soul, r&b, horns and violins… fucking insane. this is the one with bang the doldrums:

gateway song: i’m like a lawyer with the way i’m always trying to get you off (mmm i feel like i can eat this song it’s so comfy and easy to get into)

a fav that u should also listen to: i’ve got all this ringing in my ears and none on my fingers (OUGH. the orchestrations.. the piano!! the horns!!! patrick’s ba ba ba ba ba ba ba da da during the bridge. a banger.)

folie à deux — this one goes hard. it was a very different album so there were a lot of people who hated it when it first came out but now it’s commonly agreed that it’s one of their best!! folie is like ioh with the experimentation turned up even more with lyrical focus on criticizing the media and celebrity culture among other things and it is cool ✨:

gateway song: she’s my winona (catchy as hell, i’ve always thought it was the best track to introduce someone to folie)

a fav that u should also listen to: america’s suitehearts (my fob tag (#you don’t don’t know you’re a legend) is lyrics from this song. it is. really fun to sing to and the music video is wonderfully trippy)

save rock and roll — first post-hiatus album! these next three are very different from the previous albums, way more pop than pop punk. srar itself is what i can only describe as an album that sounds so 2013 radio pop rock sometimes feel like i’ve regressed 10 years and the next song i’m going to listen to is counting stars by onerepublic. this is the album with my songs know what you did in the dark. album still slaps tho. fun fact they made a movie out of it which has elton john:

gateway song: alone together (top tier example of a 2013 pop song tbh. pop done wonderfully. wowzaz)

a fav that u should also listen to: where did the party go? (the bass… the synth… the delivery of the lyrics… this was the song that convinced me to relisten to save rock and roll and really get into it)

american beauty/american psycho — people call this one sports commercial/stadium rock music and honestly yeah. yeah. this one had not only centuries but immortals from the big hero six movie. i’m like split down the middle on this album because half i simply cannot care about but the other half goes really hard fav after fav so:

gateway song: fourth of july (*cackling* (this is the other song people heavily associate with mikey way) but seriously this one can wreck you)

a fav that u should also listen to: the kids aren’t alright (this one will wreck you. genuinely? lyrics of all time.)

mania — my fav ✨😌 though polarizing among fans because this album is the furthest from pop punk theyve ever gone; it’s experimental pop rock/electropop. but i love it to pieces its clear themes of changing yourself for better or worse and looking back at how things used to be and knowing that you’ve survived and redemption through love drive me insane. ough:

gateway song: the last of the real ones (a single. it bops and its lyrics are wonderful. the piano is iconic)

a fav that u should also listen to: sunshine riptide (SONG OF ALL TIME!!! idk if it’s still my fav but damn i love it so much. beach vibes. a summer song. banger hook. vocals that make me feral.)

so much (for) stardust — THE RETURN ALBUM! came out in march :D “a return to their roots” everyone says, mirroring folie in its rock/pop punk sounding base with funk, soul and even disco influences? insane. absolutely insane:

gateway song: hold me like a grudge (the funky bass is enough for me to die happy tbh this is such a silly bop. yeag this was the song with the lyric fanfic writers were clamouring over (“part time soulmate, full time problem”))

a fav that u should also listen to: what a time to be alive (they made a fucking earth wind and fire song about the fucking pandemic and it is kinda their best song ever)

[petefromarma]

definitely agree that the response 2 saportagate was super performative like i love their music so much but like as a muslim person ever since that happened i have such strong disdain for them as people so it’s so infuriating seeing (nonmuslim) fans that were whipping out pitchforks and shit abt it a few months ago just conveniently forget that it ever happened!! like its so funny in a bad way 2 me that theyll still be like ugh fuck gabe saporta (valid) but don’t mention who put him up on that stage in the first place!! there’s just something so unique abt the fall out bot fandom in that ive genuinely never seen a fanbase knowingly ignore the awful things their idols do/say while condemning people who do the exact same shit like u cant pick and choose when you want to pretend about palestine 😭??

i'm sorry you've had to experience that anon; i agree that this is absolutely a problem the fandom has in general, like, they do this with everything so i guess it's no surprise but it is extremely disheartening that so many big blogs on here were, like, oh, how can i make this situation all about me? and then once they reached their quota of pretending to care went back to acting like nothing happened like they always do. the general attitude of fob fandom seems to be to ignore any criticism of them whenever possible and then when it can't be ignored any longer to pretend to care for a few days before everyone forgets and you can make patrick your icon again. which i mean if people don't want to talk about it like okay fine i suppose but don't then proceed to throw a tantrum when someone points out the very real flaws that these men have. what's craziest about it to me maybe is that i know these people would if given the chance tell any random lib with a twitter acct that they're an imperialist warmonger but like if it involves the random band members they stan they don't actually gaf lol it's all just a big performance for them; all of that showboating about not wanting to be associated with fob anymore and they didn't even get a fucking apology out of them

[sheila--e]

2am. Lets rate la squadra.

n1 is Risotto, personally I find his design extremely pleasing to look at both anime and manga wise, his ability more iconic than the bad it references, himself more iconic than risotto the food (because when I go to the supermarket and see risotto I think of him) and his fight extremely cathartic at the time (now u see me liking Doppio but back when I fucking hated him, so seeing him get his ass beat was awesome and left an impression.)

2 is Ghiaccio, his design is silly and I like it (big fan of his glasses), I LOVE that his stand is a fursuit and I love more that he's a perpetual motion machine fueled by deeply rooted anger issues, we should all love him more because he made dear Giovanna drive his car straight to a frozen lake like a fucking idiot. My biggest complaints is that we didn't see more of him, frankly... he also should've had waves.

3 would be(even tho I normally rate him the lowest out of principle) Illuso. What can I say about him? Not only do I wanna twirl his gorgeous brown pigtails and call him my beautiful queen but I also wanna hit him with wet cables; he truly is multifaceted. His fight with Abbachio was unforgettable in that it was almost straight up gay porn, man in the mirror also looks like a cute little flight captain bird and I think that's silly. This man is gorgeous and should've been at the club and not the mafia killing little autistic girls' big sisters.

4 is surprisingly Pesci! Idk, I just always felt bad about him and I think he deserves at least 4th place. I think that Araki wanted to draw a fat person properly with him but he didn't know how to do a double chin and ended up fucking it up badly as usual, and we got... whatever he is. His stand has a cute name, as a remark.

5th is Prostitute, better known as Prosciutto, who I frankly forgot about until halfway through writing this. You may crucify me over this but I thought he was kinda cute when he old man'd himself tbh. Idk I don't rlly have a lot to say about him except for the fact that I like old men and his ability is to make people old... he was very mean when he didn't have to be, like bro Pesci is already going thru enough by having nowhere where his face ends and neck starts, u don't have to do this shit to him...

n6 is Formaggio, I think he was too run of the mill for me, he was good as introduction and to get Nara to blow the city up but not for anything else. He's named after cheese and his ability is called Little Feet so he always made me feel a tad uncomfortable, plus his cut is ugly (tho I can say that about many of these other dudes too lol)

number 7 and last is Melone, not bc I have anything against him but because 1 his fight barely included him and 2 the most notable thing he did was get killed. I only remember the Babyface fight cuz Giorno was getting killed and Nara went hehe he's waving at us ^___^ Also atm I didn't rlly think much of it but he's kinda weird y'all r right, like not even in the good way...

Sorbet and Gelato R not included cuz we knew jack about them. Araki just wanted to bury some gays and he made them up ig... they're ok if I have to rate them, notably I did do the soyjak face when I was watching American Psycho and Patrick said Gelato... like that's one half of the JoJo guys my mutual in law likes..

[phlipshea]

everyone watch this video it’s important to me

[doomh3ad]

could you write hate sex with patrick bateman?

love how many patrick requests im getting omg?? i know he's literally my icon but it's fascinating hope u enjoy!

patrick bateman + hate sex (nsfw under cut, degrading language, rough sex, mentions of murder etc)

"You think you're something, don't you, you fucking whore?" Patrick hisses at you, squeezing your throat in time with his thrusts.

You're not shy to mouth off even with your shortness of breath, shooting back "I could be fucking any guy from Pierce and Pierce right now and I wouldn't know the difference, you're all so fucking - oh, god - so fucking bland."

He smirks in satisfaction, having successfully pulled that moan out of you. Patrick has to admit, you're the first one to present a challenge. You didn't jump into his bed right away, refused his date offers, competed with him and mocked him and he hates you for it, no, hate isn't a strong enough word, but it makes you real. You're not a stereotype badly disguised as a person. You're like him, you see the world. At least, you'll definitely see it like Patrick does once he's done with you.

"That all you got, Bateman? Could've spent these two minutes doing something else," you're mocking him, and god if it doesn't make him want to grab the scalpel in the drawer next to the bed and slit your throat, make you bleed all over his pristine white bedsheets, but instead he just goes deeper, and you're whining too loudly at the feeling for any words to form in your mind. Has he fucked you stupid? Will you submit to him, now? Give up like everyone else did, eventually?

No. Your nails rake down his back, mark up that perfect skin, and you've flipped him so he's the one on his back, now. And with the way you pull him up using his hair to plant a bruising kiss on his lips, that's not all you have in store for him. The pain, the pleasure, it's enough to make both of you come undone.

"Round two?" He's asking before you've even finished coming down from your high. Your hurried nod as he turns you on your stomach has you both smiling, even if neither of you can see the other doing it.

You hate him, but god is he good at what he does.

[omegalomania]

omg thank u sm for the joe quotes i like saw a bunch of people dragging patrick and pete saying they ruined the band and joe should be “freed” so i got so worried something awful happened😭 low and behold it’s just people going too far again

people talk about fall out boy like joe and andy's parents sold them to patrick and pete and now they keep the two of them shackled in a basement and only release them when its time for their yearly scheduled Creative Suppression Time and not a band of four grown adults who want to remain friends and so had to learn to communicate and doing so marked one of the biggest shifts in their career

that is to say name a more iconic duo than fall out boy fans and doomposting <3

(allow me to briefly break character to assure everyone's fears for a second, because i don't want to shade people who get panicky over stuff like this. after the hiatus pretty much everyone will interpret anything as a "sign" that the band is breaking up or going on another break. and while the time between mania and now has been longer than the hiatus, the energy is nothing like the hiatus in the slightest, because the band is still writing music and performing in festivals. they're just not touring/promoting an album right now. they're grown adults with kids and that's going to slow things down compared to the relentless touring pre-hiatus, which nearly fucking broke the band and gave us the hiatus in the first place. also, i want to stress how many times joe said, repeatedly, that these people are his friends and as long as they still enjoy each other's company they're going to keep doing this thing. they're all still writing music and have constantly, it's just not being directed toward anything atm.)

[thekidsarentalright]

rank fob eras but not for the music just for the era

mania era... they were so happy fr they were just being happy silly lil dudes, interviewing w puppies and releasing bath bombs that patrick had to make a video abt not eating, we got pete's bathtub live q&a and disloyal order live and patrick's making of church vlog... so much good in mania era... also they were so happy...

srar era... similar to mania era they seemed So happy to be back in action, so many classic interviews and fob moments came from this era, the setlists from srar era tours were also incredible like. ugh such a good era

abap era... their happiness is important to me okay they seem so much happier post-h than pre-h and abap era continues that trend... it comes w slightly less iconic interviews and moments but they were just touring and making music and seemed like they were having Fun and that makes me So Happy

tttyg era... van days fob has a special place in my heart like they were just 4 young dudes fucking around not knowing what they were doing but they were having fun with it!!!!! not to mention how cute tttyg era patrick is that's my fuckign girlfriend!!!!!!!

ioh era... some of Thee most iconic fob things came from ioh era, their most iconic pre-h looks come from this era and i love all of that but like... they were less happy then, i kinda think ioh was the beginning of their downturn as a band bc of how fame affected them all so like. meh :(

futct era... very mixed feelings abt this era bc while i Love it and Love how gf patrick was and how gender pete was i think like. certainly pete was less happy in this era and it's a weird cusp between them not being famous and not knowing what tf they were doing and them suddenly being famous so like. good era but not my fav at all

folie era... while i love folie, the era was just. u could tell they weren't happy, they weren't enjoying what they were doing anymore and that just. sucks all the enjoyment out of it for me so. worst era ya

[petewentzisblack1312]

hey dils!! was listening to sunshine riptide and thought of u so i wanted to say i hope ur taking care and also ask if u have any favorite fob videos/interviews?? lately i have been obsessed w the promo video patrick did for the honda civic tour where he drove around LA and said the only reason they got the tour was because he already drove a civic ahsjdbd

first of all it is SO flattering that listening to sunshine riptide made you think of me 🥺

secondly i was molded out of clay to answer this question, 100% i have a lot that i think about like way too often

the one where petes giving a tour of his parents house where he lived at the time and was showing off his stuff and was particularly very excited about the fact that his band was turned into action figures and then half way through andy shows up and is like "were best friends forever!" and petes like "yeah andy comes over for sleepovers a lot, we hang out in my basement and make zines and stuff" and then at the end he gets all excited cuz he hears his moms car pull up and he goes out and shes coming out of the car and then patrick gets out of the car carrying groceries and petes like "here mom me and patrick can put the groceries away you finish the interview" and shes like "no- pete i just got home from work im a mess" and hes like "what? no! no mom you look great, you can finish the interview well take in the groceries" and then she did and the camera crew came back to the two of them messing around and putting groceries away.

"pete wentz is honestly the only way to describe pete wentz. hes the most complicated guy i know." [cut to] "if anyone can make a strike without touching the lane i will pay you $300" *throws bowling balls straight into the air* *runs down the lane*

ok but in all seriousness i love that interview not only for that iconic moment but because later the footage is like blaring i dont care and pete goes and grabs a stuffed giraffe out of the prize thingie and hes like "what do you mean :)? we bought this with our tickets!!" and the editors are very much trying to make it a bad boy rebel without a cause moment except if you looked the woman behind the counter had a smile on her face and was laughing and then afterwards he gave it back and said "we werent really gonna steal it" but it really seemed like she knew that already

and then at a different point a couple fans showed up and they were all shy and excited to meet him and he was just like "hey are you guys coming to the show later" and they were like "yeah" and he was like "cool! thanks for coming out :) do you want a picture?" and they took a picture and it seemed like he was still kinda excited that people were excited to meet him. marcus (their bodyguard) was like trailing behind him and smiling and laughing throughout most of these antics and i just think thats sweet.

later in this same interview once again as they were on the ride back to their hotel or whatever theyd brought back a fake moustache and patrick put it on and did a bunch of dumb impressions.

patrick: if i wasnt doing music i think id be like a music critic or music journalist or something

andy:...i thought you said youd work at walmart

theres this one srar era interview thats just joe and patrick riffing for like 15 minutes. like it looks like they just straight up forgot the interviewer was there its so funny theyre such good friends.

this one joe and pete interview where i dont even really remember what they were talking about but theres a moment where joes talking about music with this intense passion and pete just kinda looks at him with this level of brotherly pride that keeps me going

this one andy and pete interview where 1) there were waterfowl chillin behind them which was deeply fascinating to andy and 2) they took a moment to swivel their chairs and hug each other bc theyre besties

band superlatives, specifically the moment where theyre all separately like "technically marcus isnt in the band but like. its marcus." bc that was sweet, unofficial 5th member of fob. and also "whos the most talented" "patrick. patrick. its patrick, hands down." "hm. petes like a really good soccer player" like thats a moment out of a fucking sitcom

halloween asmr with pete wentz. the man cant act but god can he commit to a bit.

there was this like live text chat that they all were in with fans on some radio station website. there were a lot of very fun moments, including joe saying "this is very current technology." as a comment on how very dated the live chat was and andy being like "can we set an icon i wanna change mine to an XVX" and pete and joe being like "oh are you vegan straight edge? we had no idea." and then pete was like "actually i wanna change my icon to andy hurley" and andy was like "no pete im not gonna send you a picture of me" and he was like :( and then a minute later he changed it to andy and he was like, and i swear this is almost a direct quote "BOOM! i love my life haha" and andy was like "goddammit" like i have no idea where to find this but it was so good.

theres this one "this or that" interview with joe and andy wherein the interviewer was a woman and like she seemed pretty at ease around them and got to the last question and imo seemed kinda uncomfortable and kind of established (in a way that seemed like she didnt usually do that) that it was a gross question, which was "would you have sex with a super hot celebrity but shes just died" and both of them were like "hey. what the fuck. absolutely not." and shes like "oh thats a first" and they are both like "do people say yes to that????????" and shes like "youre literally the first people to say no haha" in a way that made it seem that she did not find it funny and i just find that to be an interesting moment and i hope shes doing well and has a better producer now.

theres this one interview w andy on a hardcore podcast where the interviewer asks andy "do you every wish fall out boy were more political?" and he said (paraphrasing) "fall out boy is political, in its own way. we may not be as explicit with our politics as my other stuff, but kids find fall out boy, and through me, with all my other bands, or through joe, since he does a lot of metal, find heavier stuff, and are introduced to this stuff and to being vegan straight edge or anarchist or just more radical politics, and i dont think that just because we arent being super political in our music we arent a political band" which was really something to me bc i had just been thinking about that as a concept i call "gateway punk"

theres this one interview i recently found of a very small chicago music news outlet where a young lady interviewed pete and asked far more interesting questions than any other interviewer id ever seen and one such question was how he felt about the legalization of marijuana in illinois and he said that it was cool that it was legal but everyone locked up for it right now should be released and i like that he got to be political

theres a moment on the badass jew podcast episode joe was on where the interviewer whomst i do not recall was espousing some veiled antiblack sentiments wrt some antisemitic comments some famous black people had made and joe just completely rebutted it immediately and pointed out that black people not only are not a monolith bht are at a greater disadvantage

and also he made a joke that i could never make and cant fully get bc im not jewish but it was very funny and i love hearing people make jokes that arent for me.

this one interview before patrick had kids where he was saying how everyone kept asking him and elisa when theyd have kids and he was like "you cant just make that happen yknow? how do you just do that?" and pete immediately grinned and leaned over and mock whispered "you have sex" and patrick punched the air and was like "i hate you so much"

that one interview about abap where pete was like "we actually got the guy who did the whistles on patience by guns n roses to do it on this" and then he looks over at patrick and patrick shakes his head and petes like "you couldnt let me have this?" and he was like "i was gonna but then you looked at me and i just couldnt."

"whats the most important thing to you right now?"

patrick: star wars

joe: my daughter.

patrick: ...my son?

the puppy interview. everyone involved including the puppies was having the time of their goddamn life.

i have to stop this is too much its been like an hour

[thefallenchildofthestars]

the perks of being a wallflower

i haven’t read the book yet and i do plan on it, i swear. BUT the movie comes off netflix today so i needed to watch it. my room doesn’t have a DVD player or i wouldn’t have bothered but it’s laright. 

i love charles, he’s really relatable. not super enjoying the social settings, doesn’t participate in class, doesn’t have any friends. perfect. i like patrick too, he’s the popular OH SAM SAM SAM yes there is sam. the samantha. the trio of friends who you would die to have. 

lmao i wish our high school football team was half as decent as theirs, maybe the games would be tolerable. 

slut and the falcon. living room routine.

god i wish i could do high school over again. i wouldn’t talk to anyone i wouldn’t look at anyone i wouldn’t meet anyone i wouldn’t do anything other than my schoolwork. no dating, no friends, just my family. 

i like the dynamic of him and his sister, it reminds me a lot of aubrey and i. 

oh the cliche’s i live for it. come on eileen is a good song too. but standing against the cement wall drinking shitty punch watching complete chaos unfold. 

and the cast of this movie!!! it’s to absolutely die for!!! i mean emma watson, obviously, speaks for itself. paul rudd as the fantastic english teacher support character. logan lerman? icon. erza miller is a really good actor. 

i would love to do weed brownies in someone’s random basement and talk to random girls about giving marching band letterman shit and how its not a sport and how its pointless to give it to them. 

“are you baked?” “like a cake” 

oh im gonna cry at this movie what the hell. i wanna feel noticed and welcomed. 

here we go the iconic scene, where its emma watson in the tunnel on the bed of the truck. where charle falls in love with sam for real this time, where it’s practically a visual tutorial of how to feel weightless and infinite.

i think that if i do end up switching schools (which will be kind of sad because then i don’t get to go to the cadaver lab) i will live my little indie movie fantasy. 

the rocky horror picture show!!! oh it makes me so happyyy. i want a group of friends like this oh my gosh. 

we accept the love we think we deserve.

okay season change, we are drifting into the christmas season. i wish that someone would study for the SAT’s with me,

below average!!!

i love the aggression towards mary elizabeth.

oh the stupid record for sam. and when charlie first puts on the suit!!! i think that is brendon urie on the wall but like i don’t think it fits the vibe. OH MY GOSH SHE GOT HIM A TYPEWRITER. IM GONNA CRYYYYYYYY.

write about us. i will. 

i just want to make sure that the first person who kisses you loves you. 

i love you charlie. i love you too.

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. god this movie fills me up with stupid warm hope about life and love and oh my goddd.

the way that his brother and him talks about his mental health is so important. because im the only one who yk has gotten checked into a hospital (twice, thank you very much). who knows what’s going to happen next and im so sick and tired of not living my life but i also can’t live my life the way i want to while im at east because o people and that’s okay its not their fault, it’s mine really. but it would also be my fault if i never tried to give myself better. try to give myself tunnels and weed brownies and mixtapes and secret santas. 

oh the record. oh the record. 

i’m gonna have to sit down and watch the rocky horror picture show to get full context of the references to the movie but i’ve been meaning to watch it anyways. 

sometimes i forget its set in the 90s. the outfits, the language, the everything. oh god mary elizabeth i forgot she liked him since the beginning of the movie and it’s lame because charlie loves sam. oh just mary elizabeth flirting with charlie is bad. like i just never see them together and them making out is weird and OH IT SWITCHES TO SAM. woah boyfriend? 

i like that he still writes letters to his friend. it’s important to me. she really just bullies him for the things that he likes. and he just like wont break up with her.

OH OH OH YOU KNOW PATRICK he reminds me of conan gray!!! and maybe that’s why i like him so much oh my god. 

WOAH CHARLIE REALLY KISSED SAM INSTEAD OF MARY ELIZABETH bruhhh. like he really should have just dumped her like a week or two later. 

im worried about charlie now, because he’s getting worse again and mary elizabeth isn’t helping. and patrick got caught and now everything is going to shit and holy crap everything is rushing back and everything hurts

hearing the story about patricks breakup with his boyfried and then he kissed charlie and he was so okay abuot it because he knew that he was hurting and he just wanted him to be okay. and then everyone started getting accepted into college.

charlie is getting worse and the blackouts are getting worse and im worried that he is going to attempt and its the last day of his freshman year and i don’t want him to.

this gives very unrealisitc ideas about high school and it makes me very upset. but it’s okay. sam is still with her jackass of a boyfriend. OFC HE WAS CHEATING ON HER FUCK. 

nothing hates u.

charlie kissing sam and calling her beautiful and it makes me so happy that he kissed her. i hate that she is crying when she kisses him goodbye and i hate that she has to say goodbye and now he’s going to be alone again because all of his friends are gone. and i cant breathe and hes in the hospital.

this movie broke me. 

we are infinite.

[santonali]

weewoo an actually genuinely fun questions meme, thank you @spinazzola for giving me something fun to do!! <3 beware if u further read this it’s just so much bullshit from yours truly

1. Why did you choose your URL?

jordan henderson is my favorite footballer, and that much is still obvious even as i’m less and less involved with liverpool. this is also why it’s so hard for me to part with this url, and honestly idk if i will! i’ve had it now since he lifted the premier league trophy.

2. Any side blogs?

abso-fucking-lutely yes it’s @vetustamorla and i post everything there from tv to fandom to pretty things to the occasional oversharing

3. How long have you been on Tumblr?

since 2016 and counting, but only since 2017 as proper, sole football tumblr

4. Do you have a queue tag?

absolutely not, do i look like i have a queue tag? if u come to this blog looking for content i doubt u care if it’s current or queued

5. Why did you start your blog in the first place?

cause of euro 2016 -- i had to find a space to express my love of arek milik and my hatred of the portuguese national team, and its still pretty much the gist of things

6. Why did you choose your icon/pfp?

bc i mfing LOVE erick pulgar he’s the funniest most random footballer to stan and that’s why he’s the one for me. also, bc i enjoyed chile at the copa america last summer

7. Why did you choose your header?

patrick cutrone was the first player i loved at milan, i watched him grow and grew with him, and i’ve had this header ever since and haven’t stopped. it’s not going anywhere folks. se queda.

8. Whats your post with the most notes?

my 3 posts with the most notes aren’t football-related so i’ll skip them; that would be my rant about simon kjaer post you know which denmark match in the 2020 euros

9. How many mutuals do you have?

many, probably, but the amount i’d say i interact with and/or talk to frequently is........10. but this isn’t a very conclusive number.

10. How many followers do you have?

1227 thank yall i doubt most of you exist but still

11. How many people do you follow?

1448........look, i couldnt even name a 100 blogs but ok

12. Have you ever made a shitpost?

bro i wont even answer this

13. How often do you use tumblr?

everyday pretty much bc of one person and u know who u are, damn you, i like talking to you....and i also like the act of scrolling

14. Did you ever have a fight/argument with another blog?

oh for sure yes

15. How do you feel about the "you have to reblog this" posts?

don’t like them personally bc i don’t treat tumblr very seriously at all

16. Do you like tag games?

sure

17. Do you like ask games?

sure

18. Which of your moots do you think are tumblr famous?

some of my england mutuals definitely get a lot of traction on their blogs

19. Do you have a crush on a mutual.

nah we’re all lads lads lads i love yall though for real <3

gonna tag @circusleague @daylightisfadingaway and @lukamodric so 30% of my alleged mutuals from question 9

[totallytrucked]

list of sa vids (mostly boots, a few bts vids)

saw this done by @lady-ivie-iv and i didn't want to clog up her post with additions so I made my own

(contains a lot of the same videos, i just added some cast members + more int. productions)

Lincoln Center concert

OBC: Jonathan Groff (Melchior), L*a M*chele (Wendla), John Gallagher Jr (Moritz), Lauren Pritchard (Ilse), Jonathan B. Wright (Hanschen), Lilli Cooper (Martha), Gideon Glick (Ernst), Remy Zaken (Thea), Phoebe Strole (Anna), Brian Charles Johnson (Otto), Skylar Austin (Georg), Christine Estabrook (Adult Women), Steven Spinella (Adult Men)

Backstage at Spring Awakening with Jonathan Groff

OBC kinda: Jonathan Groff (Melchior), L*a M*chele (Wendla), John Gallagher Jr (Moritz), Phoebe Strole (u/s Ilse), Jonathan B. Wright (Hanschen), Lilli Cooper (Martha), Gideon Glick (Ernst), Remy Zaken (Thea), Krysta Rodriguez (u/s Anna), Brian Charles Johnson (Otto), Skylar Astin (Georg), Frances Mercati-Anthony (u/s Adult Women), Steven Spinella (Adult Men)

Jonathan Groff and L*a M*chele's last performance: Jonathan Groff (Melchior), L*a M*chele (Wendla), John Gallagher Jr (Moritz), Emma Hunton (Ilse), Matt Doyle (u/s Hanschen), Lilli Cooper (Martha), Blake Daniel (Ernst), Remy Zaken (Thea), Phoebe Strole (Anna), Brian Charles Johnson (Otto), Skylar Austin (Georg), Christine Estabrook (Adult Women), Glenn Fleshler (Adult Men)

7 Aug 2008: Matt Doyle (u/s Melchior), Alexandra Socha (Wendla), Gerard Canonico (Moritz), Emma Hunton (Ilse), Jesse Swenson (u/s Hanschen), Amanda Castanos (Martha), Morgan Karr (u/s Ernst), Caitlin Kinnunen (Thea), Emily Kinney (Anna), Gabe Violett (Otto), Andrew Durand (Georg)

Broadway probably 2008: Matt Doyle (u/s Melchior), Alexandra Socha (Wendla), Blake Bashoff (u/s Moritz), Emma Hunton (Ilse), Jesse Swenson (u/s Hanschen), Lilli Cooper (Martha), Blake Daniel (Ernst), Remy Zaken (Thea), Phoebe Strole (Anna), Brian Charles Johnson (Otto), Skylar Astin (Georg) Glenn Flesher (Adult Men), most likely Christine Estabrook (Adult Women)

Broadway Tony Performance

Weird censored performance on good morning America

Spring awakening cast does grease (iconic)

Broadway press reel

First national tour: Kyle Riabko (Melchior), Christy Altomare (Wendla), Blake Bashoff (Moritz), Steffi D (Ilse), Andy Mientus (Hanschen), Sarah Hunt (Martha), Ben Moss (Ernst), Kimiko Glenn (Thea), Gabrielle Garza (Anna), Anthony Lee Medina (Otto), Matt Shingledecker (Georg), Angela Reed (Adult Women), Henry Stram (Adult Men)

29 Nov 2011 1nt: Jake Epstein (Melchior), Christy Altomare (Wendla), Blake Bashoff (Moritz), Steffi D (Ilse), Andy Mientus (Hanschen), Sarah Hunt (Martha), Ben Fankhauser (Ernst), Kimiko Glenn (Thea), Gabrielle Garza (Anna), Anthony Lee Medina (Otto), Matt Shingledecker (Georg), Angela Reed (Adult Women), Henry Stram (Adult Men)

Totally Trucked 1nt bts vids

2nd National tour (audio playlist, video playlist): Christopher Wood (Melchior), Elizabeth Judd (Wendla), Coby Getzug (Moritz), Courtney Markowitz (Ilse), Devon Stone (Hanschen), Aliya Bowles (Martha), Daniel Plimpton (Ernst), Emily Mest (Thea), Rachel Geisler (Anna), George Salazar (Otto), Jim Hogan (Georg), Sarah Kleeman (Adult Women), Mark Poppleton (Adult Men)

Class of 1891 bts vids (2nt)

London playlist: Aneurin Barnard (Melchior), Charlotte Wakefield (Wendla), Iwan Rheon (Moritz), Lucy May Barker (Ilse), Jamie Blackley (Hanschen), Hayley Gallivan (Martha), Harry McEntire (Ernst), Evelyn Hoskins (Thea), Natasha Barnes (Anna), Edd Judge (Otto), Jos Slovick (Georg), Sian Thomas (Adult Women), Richard Cordery (Adult Men)

Deaf West (act 1) Spring Awakening (act 2): Austin McKenzie (Melchior), Sandra Mae Frank/Katie Boeck (Wendla/voice of Wendla), Daniel Durant/Alex Boniello (Moritz/voice of Moritz), Krysta Rodriguez (Ilse), Andy Mientus (Hanschen), Treshelle Edmond/Kathryn Gallagher (Martha/voice of Martha), Josh Castille/Daniel David Stewart (Ernst/voice of Ernst), Amelia Hensley (Thea), Lauren Luiz (Voice of Thea/Melitta), Ali Stroker (Anna), Miles Barbee/Sean Grandillo (Otto/voice of Otto), Alex Wyse (Georg), Camryn Manheim and Marlee Marlin (Adult Women), Russel Harvard and Patrick Page (Adult Men)

LA dwsa woybr: Joey Haro (Hanschen), Josh Castille/Daniel David Stewart (Ernst/voice of Ernst)

Dwsa Tony performance

Dwsa on Seth Meyers

amateur/regional productions:

Spring awakening at Syracuse Summer Theatre: Chip Weber (Melchior), Maya Dwyer (Wendla), Tim Willard (Moritz), Madeline Shuron (Ilse), Liam Collins (Hanschen), Chelsea Colton (Martha), Doug Schneider (Ernst), Taylorann Flurschutz (Thea), Taylor Peck (Anna), Chris Wagner (Otto), Emmett Wickersham (Georg), Michaela Oney (Adult Women), Tallon Larham (Adult Men)

Bitch of living from Ann Arbor Concert: Ben Walker (Melchior), Rohit Gopal (Moritz), Matthew Kemp (Hanschen), Cameron Sirian (Ernst), Grant Rossini (Otto), Griffin Binnicker (Georg), John Siebert (Adult Men)

Some non-english language productions:

Mexico playlist ( Despertando en Primavera): Mauricio Romero (Melchior), Melissa Barrera (Wendla), Pepe Navarrete (Moritz), Roxana Puente (Ilse), Iker Madrid (Hanschen), Ivonne Garza (Martha), Arturo Valdemar (Ernst), Melissa Ortiz (Thea), Estibalitz Ruiz (Anna), Pablo Rodriguez (Otto), Diego Medel (Georg), Fernanda Borches (Adult Women), Cristobal Garcia-Naranjo (Adult Men)

Brasil cast recording (O Despertar da Primavera): Pierre Baitelli (Melchoir), Malu Rodrigues (Wendla), Rodrigo Palfando (Moritz), Leticia Colin (Ilse), Thiago Amaral (Hanschen), Laura Lobo (Martha), Felipe de Carolis (Ernst), Julia Bernat (Thea), Estrela Blanco (Anna), Bruno Sigrist (Otto), Andre Loddi (Georg), Debora Olivieri (Adult Women), Carlos Gregorio (Adult Men)

Some Spring Awakening Vienna videos: Rasmus Borkowski (Melchior), Hanna Kastner (Wendla), Wolfgang Turks (Moritz), Jennifer Kothe (Ilse), Johannes Huth (Hanschen), Sonja Dengler (Martha), Matthias Bollwerk (Ernst), Jeannine Wacker (Thea), Jana Nagy (Anna), Marlon Wehmeier (Otto), Dominik Hees (Georg), Julia Stemberger (Adult Women), Adult Men unknown

Argentina proshot (Despertando en Primavera): Fernando Dente (Melchior), Florencia Otero (Wendla), Federico Salles (Moritz), Mariana Jaccazio (Ilse), Eliseo Barrionuevo (Hanschen), Belén Pasqualini (Martha), Leandro Bassano (Ernst), Julieta Nair Calvo (Thea), Mivaela Pierani Méndez (Anna), Cristian Centurión (Otto), Julián Rubino (Georg), Irene Almus (Adult Women), Tony Lestingi (Adult Men)

SA Japan trailer (there are other vids on yt)

SA Korea Totally Fucked (South Korea)

gosh this is long as hell omg... Once again thank you to @lady-ivie-iv for the idea and great list!

[greetings-from-the-refuge]

I just finished watching the 1992 Newsies movie so here's a commentary that absolutely no one asked for✨✨

This is gonna be long and filled with my reactions to the movie so uh if ya don't like it then move alonggggg

Without further ado, here it is

Ooooh I like the intro

Aww sleepy bois

HEY LOOK IT'S BATH- ooh wait lyrics are different oof

Topless Mush is a blessing

Aaaaaa move ya elbooow

The different lyrics keep throwing me off

H i p T h r u s t s

Patrick's mother is amazing

DA DELANCEY BROTHAS oh wait fuck does Morris have a mustache?!

DAAAAAAAVVVVVEEEEEYYYYY!!!!!!

Oh and Les too!!

Man this thing is more chaotic than the live version

"must be from brooklyn"

*Pulitzer turns in his chair* I hate him already

Confused Davey trailing behind Jack is adorable

Oh fuck it's Snyder run RUUUUUN

YAY IT'S MISS MEDDA!!!!!!!

Ooh we actually get to see the parents Oh hi Sarah!!

Aww Les singing in his sleep

Oh wait Santa fe? Now? Huh

Oh wait fuck the dance break

"It'll give us a bad name!" "Can't get any worse!"

Ooh is this the Denton? Gasp IT IIIIIIIISSSS

Ooooh they're going to Brooklyn! Oh it's the docks! G A S P ITS SPOOOT!! SPOTSPOTSPOTSPOT-

AGSJAKSHA RACE WITH A KAZOO

Oh fuck Crutchie N O

Oh wait are they trying to break him out?

"Jack stay calm." Jack: *proceeds to do the opposite of calm*

Brooklyn's entrance is ICONIC

"Where's me picture where's me picture"

The head nod

Oh I hate this Pulitzer more than musical Pulitzer

pERIODT

Don't simp Spot Don't simp Spot Don't simp-

HIIIGHHHH TIIIMEEESSSS

YES MEDDA DEFEND THE CHILD WAIT RACE NO-

LEAVE THE CHILDREN ALONE

Oh a court oh nice

oN tHE gROuNdS oF bRoOKlYn yOuR hONoR

Wait Denton don't leave-

Newsie heist Newsie heist Newsie heist

Jack: *is literally not saying anything*

Pulitzer: "You shut up and listen to me!!!"

Holy shit did he just pin Davey to the wall-

If y'all touch Sarah imma fuckin- YES PUNCH HIM- NO!!! DAVEY!!!

Hell yeah Once And For All!!!

"Know how to read?" That's so heartbreaking...

Oh my god that's a lotta people- uh I mean STRIKE!!!!

AYYYY CRUTCHYYYYY'S BAAAAAACK!!!!

Hasta la vista Snybitchhhh

Omg is that Spot riding in the carriage?! What an absolute icon!

Moral of this post? I am an absolute simp for 1992 Spot Conlon

[bxngthedoldrums]

worst hair looks of all the boys except for teal roots gerard: go

ALRIGHT ALRIGHT U GOT MY NUMBER W THIS ONE BABEY!!!! saving mcr for last bc its a doozy

panic:

honestly ??? 2004. just 2004 in general. an atrocious time for everyone when it came to haircuts and panic is no exception, but bonus points to br*ndon’s bowl cut in 2008. other than that panic was fairly decent in the hair department (i know there are mixed opinions on the ryhawk but i am someone who liked it) and therefore no photos are necessary imo

fall out boy:

patrick stump until like pre-hiatus was pretty bad, im anti sideburn,,,joe’s hair always has looked fairly good and i DARE say he manages his curls better than ray does,,,,,,,,,,andy’s hair is always mediocre??? bland. pete is the one who was really doin some experimenting and one of my least favs is the chunky red streaks

bitch what the fuck

cobra starship:

honestly??? not a lot happenin for them. completely unmemorable, every member. nate rly embraced the long flippy hair of the time and i commend him for that, but past that???? bland. boring. 

the academy is:

mike carden’s hair always looked like shit so i’m not even going to narrow it down to one for him,, however i personally hate santi era hair for both william And sisky it was ugly and bad and i will not budge on this!!! esp compared to almost here era!!! tf!!!!!!! additionally i just do Not like william w short hair so anything post 2011 is a no from me. heres santi:

my chemical romance:

oh baby. your hopeless hair, indeed,,,,,the way brothers both have had some HEINOUS hairstyles and so has frank,,,,ray’s hair has never looked bad persay but he def got better at maintaining his curls during danger days and i love that for him!!!! for the rest of them tho....

frank’s worst BY FAR is the nasty crusty grinch finger white dreads he had in 2002 during bullets. they were disgusting they were ugly they were horrendous and i dont even want to look at an image of them....to add insult to injury he also had this weird scraggly chinstrap beard at the same time and it was BAD

mikey way was a particularly misguided man hair-wise during bullets and revenge, and i could talk about the flock of seagulls-esque hair from bullets or the rats nest that followed, but what i TRULY hate and think is perhaps the worst and most iconic was the flat iron fried pin straight greasy hair UNDER the glasses

now....gerard way’s hair timeline is like a greatest hits compilation for the worst shit you’ve ever seen. every era had it’s own fucking TERRIBLE moment, so it’s hard to narrow down, but i’ll list some of my favs not counting teal roots (aka the root of all evil):

- not really a hairstyle but it was always disgusting during bullets. no ones hair should ever be greasy enough to look like its made of wet yarn 

- i liked all black long revenge hair but he crossed a fucking line when he bleached JUST THE BACK HALF AND SOME TOP BITS??? AND THEN COLORED IT RED???? I HATE IT!!!

- when he buzzed it and went platinum in tbp was probably the best for him because what followed was

- that terrible bowl’ish cut from the teenagers vid

- which turned into another bout of fucking repulsively grease-clumped hair

- the danger days undercut was a look but only on accident

- he then bleached it and it turned into straw again and was this dingy yellow/orange/blonde

- hesitant alien had its own struggles i cant even get into modern day gerard

and a HOST of multiple other grisly and ghastly looks in between these.........i can never know peace

[gamerwoo]

Pentagon as Spongebob Characters

This is the ask that inspired it because @cozynochu and I were talking about pirate!Wooseok and how he would probably be a lot like Mr Krabs (kinda dumb and just wants to keep his gold from everybody) and I posted about it (but no we did not make Wooseok Mr Krabs because they’re not really alike at all) but then we got carried away and,,,,,,this hapened

-

Jinho > Plankton

don’t tell me i did him dirty bc y’all saw this coming

yes it’s bc he’s tiny

tiny people love world domination for some reason

*plankton voice* “i am small”

while jinho isn’t evil he definitely would cut a bitch if he had to

but he’s not married to a computer so he has that going for him

Hui > Squilliam

rich n famous musician/dancer/whatever the fuck squilliam does

you know who’s jealous of squilliam? squidward

you know who’s jealous of hui? shinwon

both are loved by all and hated by one :’)

talented bois

even though i still don’t know what the fuck squilliam actually does

both of them could probably buy and sell me tho

Hongseok > Larry the Lobster

another one y’all saw coming

buff boys

that’s really it

that’s all i got

they just go to the gym and flex a lot

shirts????

Hyojong > Patrick

okay y’all probably thought kino would be patrick bc laugh but hear me out i am spongebob expert

patrick is just as loud as spongebob

does all the dumb things spongebob does

sometimes dumber

but he’s more aggressive

you can’t tell me edawn isn’t a loud, single-braincelled boy who would fight somebody for funsies

but patrick can still be sweet too just like hyojong

Shinwon > Squidward

y’all already guessed this after i said shinwon was jealous of hui

both tall and kinda just done w everything

squidward wants squilliam’s fame

shinwon wants hui’s money

and more lines

underappreciated just like squidward

y’all only see them as memes smh

Changgu > Grandma Squarepants

literally just soft

can do absolutely no wrong

just wants to bake some cookies and love everybody

spread all the love

knit a sweater with love in the stitches that’s so big that the whole world can fit

Yanan > Gary

men of few words

but will be loud when needed

cute

even if you don’t watch spongebob, you still like gary

even if you don’t stan pentagon, you still love yanan

Yuto > Bubble Buddy

give me a break ok yuto was hard to place

men of few words pt 2

don’t really do or say much

so nobody can really not like them

still super nice to everybody though

bubble buddy was almost fuckin murdered and was still polite like that is definitely yuto

he’s too soft

he belong in super weenie hut jrs

yuto, not bubble buddy

Kino > Spongebob

happy loud boys

iconic laughs

kino’s sensitive right

well when spongebob feels shit, he REALLY feels it

“can u feel it now mr krabs”

like when he’s sad he just wails or if he’s happy he laughs and yells

plus combined w patrick aka hyojong, it’s really just a whole mess

but it’s a fun mess

Wooseok > Pearl

both fuckin huge

loud as heck

kinda dumb

savage

pearl will literally insult somebody on the spot u can’t tell me this isn’t wooseok 

[wolfhuntsmoon]

Sarah Rogers pt 2: or, how baby!Steve imbibed a fuck-you attitude with his mother’s milk

Okay, so after looking at Sarah’s backstory, how she met Joseph and had Steve and decided to go to America, I couldn’t stop thinking about: what next? The MCU wiki is VERY thin on the ground with detail, and she’s so interesting! Plus, this is, like, one of the most criminally underdeveloped sources for Steve Rogers’ character, as I mentioned in pt 1. So, what can we reasonably source from the time to fill in the gaps?

So: I said in my previous post Sarah likely arrives in January/February of 1918. This is because in those days, travel times were long, conditions were VERY poor and you did not want to be heavily pregnant on a cheap ship to America with the conditions on board. Plus, in those days there was no guarantee a ship company would even sell you a ticket if you were visibly pregnant. It did happen, but was risky for the company, so you could never be sure. Sarah would have left asap once she made a decision. 

The journey itself would have taken about 3-4 weeks. First she would have had to travel to London, because nothing would have been leaving to America from the French or Belgian coastline, as a) most of it was too close to the war and b) the bits that weren’t wouldn’t have been profitable. Travel to London from Passchendaele would have taken a few days to a week, given the mud and absolute priority troops and military materials were given on all journeys. This map here shows it took between 7-10 days to arrive in New York from London (by ship, no flights until the late 1920s/1930s) in 1914 before the outbreak of the war. I mentioned how at this point the German U-boats were basically sinking anything they found not flying a German flag, which made this journey pretty hazardous, even with the newly introduced (and very effective) protection of the convoy system. If Sarah was travelling on a fast convoy (less likely as they were primarily for troop ships) it would have taken about a week. Slower moving convoys carrying mostly cargo might have taken 2 weeks, even 2 and a half weeks if the weather was bad. Convoys, by the way, were where groups of ships were clustered together and escorted across the Atlantic by a combination of naval ships bristling with every explosive known to man, and navy ships disguised to look like harmless merchant cargo ships but ALSO bristling with every explosive known to man, to prevent U-boats sinking them. And also attack U-boats when they turned up. Not if. When. As you may be imagining, these journeys often contained lots of Things Going Boom and people Dying in Unpleasant Ways. Sarah would have been told by literally everyone she knew that this was a stupid, near-lethal decision, and that she should just NOT. But Sarah being Sarah, ignored this in the pursuit of what she felt was right and best for her and her baby... that doesn’t sound familiar at all, does it?

Okay, so she’s made it through the journey to the iconic Ellis Island. The next problem was that Immigration to the USA was incredibly curtailed by 1918, compared to the levels of immigration to the US prior to WWI beginning. In this, Sarah was lucky. Prior to WWI, on average between 1900-1914 about 1 million immigrants arrived into the US each year. In 1918, roughly 110,000 did - Sarah being one of them. I’ve said before that she would have had an easier time getting passage on a ship in the first place because she was comparatively better off on a nurse’s wage and was a middle class professional. More than that, most travel was reserved for the military - and Sarah likely had connections, being the wife of an American soldier, which made it easier for her to gain passage on a ship. (More on this later.)

Her status and profession is also very important for explaining how Sarah gained entry to the US, because by the end of WWI, the open door policy of the 19th and early 20th century had been solidly shut. The open-door policy had essentially allowed anyone who could pass a very basic medical and legal check free entry to reside in the USA, and the Ellis Island museum has a very good description of just how cursory these checks were - they were nicknamed the ‘six second physicals’. 98% of immigrants passed straight away, and a only a very small percentage of the remainder were put on a ship back to their country of origin. But by the outbreak of WWI, politicians and the public had become uneasy about this. Mostly due to racial concerns - Chinese immigration was the first to be restricted in 1882 with the Chinese Exclusion Act. Japanese immigrants were targeted in 1907 and all Asian immigrants in 1917. (I see a lot of posts on tumblr talking about how immigration restrictions in the US began by denying Jewish refugees entry in the 1930s, which... is wrong. So, so wrong. But anyway.) Here is a contemporary cartoon showing a pretty good summary of attitudes to immigration by the time Sarah would have been travelling:

(The 3% refers to immigration restrictions put in place by Congress AFTER the war, btw.)

But the US wasn’t just worried about one continent’s people! Or even ‘just’ non-whites! Oh no... they were also VERY worried about the ‘wrong sort’ of white immigrant too. Namely, anyone from southern and eastern Europe, and the Irish. 

The discrimination against the Irish is an interesting one, because on the face of it, the Irish were the kind of immigrants the US wanted - north and western Europeans. But here’s where eugenics and pseudoscience come along and fuck things up for a lot of people. Part of the reason why the US was suspicious of southern and eastern Europeans was political - that they harboured a tendency towards violent revolutions, communism and anarchy. The Irish, after the violence of the 1916 Easter Rising and the fact that a not-insignificant number of violent revolutionaries tried to facilitate a German invasion of Ireland (and then unionists ran guns during the war through Kriegsmarine U-boat dropoffs on the Irish coast in... defence???? Idk either.), came to be included in this politically radical group. That’s the first strike.

The second strike came from the fact Irish had the British working against them. In those days, British media and culture really set the tone for the rest of the world. Remember, the US was not a world superpower yet - this is when Britain is at the height of its power, ruling 20% of the world’s people and 25% of its land surface by 1924. Britannia really did rule the waves, and much of the world’s culture, at this point. Hollywood, and American ‘soft power’ had yet to develop into the behemoth it is now. British culture persistently depicted the Irish as subhuman, ape-like, feckless, uncivilised and dangerous, as you can clearly see here:

The top one is from 1866, and the second one from 1849. Both were cartoons published in Punch Magazine, which was the pre-eminent social and political publication that EVERYONE read in the Victorian and Edwardian eras. It also played a huge role in shaping social attitudes, and you can see more of its, and others, views on the Irish in these excellent galleries. The rest of the British media was the same - almost universally negative views of the Irish, which filtered across the Atlantic over time. And seemed to be vindicated by events like the 1916 Easter Rising, and before that a long running number of secret societies the British kept discovering, plotting revolution against their rule. The whole ‘kiss me I’m Irish’, dying the Hudson green on St Patrick’s day, ‘omg I love an Irish accent’ thing? Didn’t happen until the latter half, or really the last quarter, of the twentieth century. The Irish were pretty much persona non grata when Sarah was alive. Part of the explanation for this came from the idea that the Irish were a part of a lesser race, their Celtic origins leading to a lack of judgement, predisposition to alcoholism and hotheadedness, and passionate outbursts which meant you needed to treat them more like children. Conveniently enough for the British, this explanation meant you didn’t need to treat your subjects like equals, deserving of the vote, or indeed with anything except violence and condescension. Ha. Funny that.

But anyway, back to America.

Third strike: the Irish were Catholic, as Sarah would have been. Only the very richest in society were Protestant, because they were descended from British settlers. Both the British and the US governments of the time viewed Catholicism with deep suspicion, partly for historical reasons (Martin Luther, 1517 and all that jazz) but ALSO because the Catholic Church remained a vastly powerful institution which could and did command the loyalties of people more than the national government, and this represented a dangerous fifth column within the nation state. Most of north and western Europe was Protestant, unlike the south and east which was predominantly Catholic (with the exception of France. But hey, they’re the French. No big.) so the Irish being 99% Catholic was yet another reason they got lumped in with the other ‘undesireables’. 

Not a small part of this was caused by the fact that the Irish had been immigrating to America in vast numbers ever since the Great Famine (aka the Potato Famine/Blight) to the tune of and average of c450,000 Irish per decade between 1850-1900. That is... a LOT. Like, New York’s population in 1890 had only just hit 2.5 million! Ireland’s population TODAY is 5 million! So by the end of WWI, there was already a sense that Too Many Irish were here, particularly since the Irish tended, like most immigrant communities, to move into certain areas in large numbers via family groups and connections. Sarah would have been no exception to this, which I’ll explore more in pt 3 later. It was a very common practice in this period for a man to go to America and work, then bring his family and extended family over. Or for young relations to go and live with family already in America if there was no work in Ireland - which there wasn’t, the Irish economy being subsistence agriculture and not a lot else. 

All of this together means that when Sarah arrives in Jan/Feb of 1918? She’d get a pretty rough welcome at Ellis Island (still used for incoming immigrants until new legislation establishing a visa system in 1924 went through and basically made it redundant.) and beyond.

Below is a pic of an Ellis Island arrival card, just because it’s cool:

These tightened restrictions resulted in not just health checks, but intelligence tests and ‘mental fitness’ tests, which if failed, could result in the immigrant being sent back to their country of origin. However, Sarah would have made it through okay, because she had good English, her profession and likely her marriage cert and references from Joseph Rogers’ commanding officer to speed her passage. She may even have had family connections already in New York or America, but for the reasons outlined in my previous post, probably wasn’t in contact with them. Or if she did contact them, was likely to be ignored and ostracised. Because patriarchy, yay.

But ironically? Getting into America was the easy part. I know, I know, unbelievable, especially when you consider she was PREGNANT during this. I mean, can you imagine enduring morning sickness and all the other joys of pregnancy on a boat in the middle of the Atlantic in WINTER, in danger of sinking from a U-Boat torpedo at any moment? Can you? Can you??? Sarah Rogers came up against an immense set of obstacles just to get into America and just fucking ploughed through them like they were tissue paper. Which explains a LOT about Steve Rogers, that’s for sure.

Join me next time for pt 3, where I explore Sarah’s living and working situation after she arrives and we all learn to be even more in awe of how fucking metal she was.