#//Honestly at this point; I’m glad those two are on break. and glad Stolas has sb who is emotionally available there for him

[helliixns]

Once my WiFi stops being fucken estupid, mark my words I will ADD Stolas’ new beau into the roster bc he is a CUTIE

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I remember the long wait between ep7 and s2e1 dropping was really weird on the instagrams

at first it felt like they were going to actually address the full moon argument in the show so the instagrams had to spin their wheels

this led to, hilariously, Blitzo living his best life hanging out with M&M and smiling in a way that seems not just genuine but the happiest he'd been in a while. meanwhile Stolas was cancelling full moon meet ups saying he was ill, or he was just 'taking a self-care day'.

looking back on it, it's honestly hilarious Stolas was so broken up that Blitzo put his foot down and told him he hates Stolas treating him like a sex object that he sulked about it for two months straight on the instas. that illustration where he's doing that smile makes him look like he's hanging on by a thread. like you said it's not romantic; it's codependency. he's staking way too much of his emotional wellbeing on Blitzo, that's not romantic. if they just wanted to get across the full moon meetings were suspended for now they could have done it without making Stolas look like he's passed the event horizon for pitying himself for no good reason

anyway it seems like maybe at some point while the legal issues with ep8 rolled on that Viv or someone else told the instagrams that they wouldn't be resolving the full moon conversation for several episodes straight - in fact it wouldn't come up directly at all in Seeing Stars. so they just resolved it in the instagrams, where I guess Blitzo felt like he should be 'earning' his way to earth and shows up to Stolas' balcony with the book in one of the photos and...everything's fine, I guess?

if you wanted to give Stolas the benefit of the doubt it could be assumed he was deciding to break off the deal in those months and not just crying himself to sleep because he discovered his sex slave views the sex as a chore he has to put up with. he obviously came to that conclusion in the show, sad as it is that it took him multiple months of in-universe time to like. just do anything about it.

the show's kind of weird about this, tho? in full moon Blitzo says 'it's been a few months' but doesn't say whether or not that pause started straight after Ozzie's or not. meanwhile the instas just imply they went back to business as usual in the post when Blitzo turned up with the book. and like, it's pretty weird if Stolas came to the conclusion that the deal was wrong but still wrung a few more meetings out of Blitzo anyway, right? like couldn't he commit to the idea the deal is wrong for longer than 5 seconds?

What a goddamn mess. I don’t have much to add since I wasn’t there to see it so I’ll trust your rendition of events anon. Sounds like an awkward poorly written mess. I’m glad Blitzø got a night “off” but sadly the chains of guilt and pity will make sure he never has another one again.

When stolas said “you can just drop the book off and go” that’s probably what happened? And no Viv I’m not giving him a medal for that.

Unless the image you’re describing has a sexual caption which knowing stolas, it does. How sad that blitz has family and friends but stolas only has an empty house just like at the start of Ozzies, yet he’s learned nothing. He enslaved Blitzø because he didn’t think a consensual relationship was possible for someone as undesirable as him (Twitter says otherwise stolas, no worries there!). Yet somehow this makes him sympathetic. But he’s a loner with only people attached to Blitzø to be his friends. Pathetic.

And I think he’s resentful that he lent him the book a few months without getting sex out of it.

What a vile, weird, creepy story of romanticised sexual abuse.

[showtoonzfan]

Oh god this is Salt-bug, I deleted my account cause I didn’t want anything to do with Vivziepop at all cause it’s been keeping me down but man I can’t help it when there’s a new Helluva…from what I’m hearing about it, I can tell Viv was the writer. Doesn’t sound as awful as Adam’s episodes but still bland, with out of place moments and fanfic drama that probs won’t be addressed til another year or two…I just have a few things I wanna say.

1. Bet that Stolas is gonna be all better the next time we see him with no physical injuries, bringing the status quo back immediately. Or if anything, he’ll just have an arm sling and acting the same woe is me horny rich man.

2. I have a feeling the texts about Ozzie’s was a last minute add-in just so critics and fans will shut up about it not being addressed in Seeing Stars, but it just made it worse cause it was blink and you’ll miss it but what did we expect from writers that think addressing plot points and details through Twitter or Patreon only Q&As will solve all their writing problems…

3. Why is MOXXIE the one stabbing and actively fighting those guys, wasn’t the point of M&M’s dynamic that Moxxie was ranged combat while Millie’s close range? I even complimented the parallel of Moxxie’s lack of scars and clothing tears and Millie’s abundance of them in their designs cause of that, if they wanna give Millie moments outside of being a badass assassin then make it in character. I can’t imagine how their character notes or lack there of read…

4. I didn’t think I’d hate Andrealphus as much I did before but he sounds too…no when it comes to Stella. Judging by fanart Viv liked of Andrealphus insulting Stella, she’s most likely to become the fifth character in this show with familial abuse, will she be humanized thanks to it? Doubt it cause she hates Viv’s golden child Stolas.

Hey Salt-Bug! Glad to here from you. Yeah, you’re pretty much right about the episode, it’s nowhere near as bad as the previous two, it’s clear that both Viv and Adam can’t write for shit, but I honestly have to admit that Adam is worse than Viv if you compare them. Adam’s episodes are the ones that piss me off, where as Vivzie’s are so underwhelming, feel like no effort was put into them, and more importantly feel empty, cause whenever Viv is the lead on an episode, I always feel like I sat through nothing, because most of her writing isn’t satisfying or leads to something big for how much she hypes her stuff up. Like…when I first saw Ozzie’s, I felt the same way I felt when I saw Western Energy, because shit barely happens. Western Energy’s core focus was Stolas being tortured for a bit, and everything else around it was pointless fluff and filler, and Ozzie’s core focus was the House of Asmodeous song, everything else also being pointless filler or fluff. Like..it’s so obvious that Viv comes up with core episode ideas, but has to find a way to write AROUND it and that’s where she’s not good at it.

I agree with your thoughts here, my prediction is that as much as I hate to say it, the Barbie episode will probably be next, with the show taking a break from Stolas and the drama, to go to Blitz. While Stolas is in the hospital, judging by the trailer it seems it’ll be a Moxxie focused episode, until he comes across across Barbie, and it turns into a Blitz episode I guess. I have the heavy feeling it’ll be exactly like Spring Broken where Barbie and Blitz just throw insults at each other until we realize that she was genuinely hurt by him and then tease her for a future episode, especially if you’ve seen the episode leak where that ghost dude is taunting Blitz for how he treated her. No doubt the show will go back to the status quo, wether Stolas is in the hospital or not.

As for Stella? I don’t think we need to be worried about her and Andre, for now at least. If you’ve seen the finale leak, they seemed to be just fine, laughing together on the couch. I guess their goal is just to make Stolas poor? Like..strip his power away I guess. I have no idea. I also have no idea wether they want to make Stella sympathetic or not, but again, judging by the leak, I don’t think they’re going to do much with her this season, which is a bummer. Other than that, hope you’re doing well Salt-Bug!