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Heesu in Class 2: Maybe It’s Time to Stop Calling Myself a BL Viewer
After finishing Heesu in Class 2, it’s been surprising to feel like I’m in the minority for enjoying it. We’ve seen a great deal of concerted posting from fans of the webtoon about how this show betrayed its source material with its adaptation changes. Over the last few weeks, I’ve read the original webtoon to gather my own thoughts. After reading through @my-rose-tinted-glasses post on why this project didn’t work for her, I decided to sit with it for a while. I then came across this tweet from Dr. Thomas Baudinette:

I respect Dr. Baudinette’s academic interest in the genre and the useful insider insight he brings to the table. However, I will say plainly that I think this is a grossly disingenuous take, grounded in the idea that stories about queer romance take precedence over other queer stories. Additionally, it deeply misreads the adaptation choices and insinuates that a queer show that includes heterosexuality in it is somehow betraying the BL audience. There’s a lot to unpack here, but I will say plainly that I will go back to just being a queer cinephile who dabbles in BL instead of advocating for BL if this is who we are.
I am a queer person here for stories about queer truth. BL is a romance genre. While I respect BL viewers who are here to get their feelings from swoony moments, I cannot abide the presumption that a story that is inherently about the coming out experience somehow let its source material down for maintaining that connection. Every year we get into a big fight about what is or isn’t BL (see: 180 Degree Longitude Passes Through Us, Love in the Big City, What Did You Eat Yesterday?, etc.), often arguing that BL is a branding term used to get romance viewers to show up and support queer works. I think it’s fine enough to argue that Heesu in Class 2 isn’t a BL because it uses Korean drama frameworks (@lurkingshan) for its story instead of sandblasting you in the face with pop music as two boys stare at each other, but I think there’s real value in what the show is doing for mainstream viewers.
I’ve avoided discussing the webtoon too much in my commentary, but now that I have read it I will say firmly that this would have sucked as a TV show. We know that about 40-50% of the shows we get each year are based on their source material. The webtoon is adorable and well-intentioned. It’s also a very simple narrative in which we are primarily in Heesu’s point of view, and any time we leave his point of view it’s to see only what other people are thinking about him. In my opinion, simpler narratives like the Heesu webtoon work best as films and not as dramas.
We recently went through this with Living With Him, in which a really short manga got stretched to eight episodes and had to add contrivances to the middle to pad out the time that eventually hurt the core narrative. Thai BL is rife with secondary, tertiary, and quaternary couples to pad out time to meet the long run time demands of the airing schedule. When you’re adapting a fairly simple story, you either have to add depth or bloat. Oftentimes we get both. In the case of Heesu, it’s clear that they were only adapting the first season of the webtoon, and so they added depth.
The constant refrain from detractors of this webtoon is that it deprioritized the queer characters and their narrative in favor of straight narratives. I wholeheartedly disagree. Every single straight story in this show (and the gay ones) are meant to add context to the queer struggles Hee Su and Seung Won face, from Ji Yu and Chan Young to all three of his sisters.
Ji Yu’s music arc hearkens to the queer fear of being public with yourself and facing judgment and scrutiny. Chan Young’s tennis arc features real parental abandonment consequences that many a queer person fears. Hee Sin exemplifies how easy it is to fall for people and also deal with the constant rejection of most people not being into you (because they’re straight). Hee Jae exemplifies how toxic a relationship with your best friend can be when the romantic feelings aren’t fully reciprocal. Hee Yeong shows us what it means to be brave and face your friend after you’ve let them down romantically. Ho Sik highlights how easy it is for straight people to express and pursue their romances, and then be public with them. None of these plots exist in a vacuum; they’re meant to add context to the tension between Hee Su and Seung Won.
On the queer front, the show expanded on the initial lesbian advice plotline as a way for Hee Su to open the discussion about queerness with his siblings. The look shared between the sisters, their careful responses, and the way they treat him in the final episode after Hee Su comes out to Hee Sin shows that they talked to each other. Hee Sin clearly pulled on her prior knowledge when she insisted to Hee Su that she still loves him. Hee Jae, the grumpiest sister, was especially direct about praising Hee Su when he offered to help them take Hee Yeong to the airport. Hee Yeong told him plainly that he must remember that she is always on his side and will support him. Seung Won’s mom acknowledged that her own coming out affected him, and let him decide how open to be about his family.
The coming out sequence with Hee Sin was so powerful. He made it clear that this isn’t a gay-for-you situation. He said plainly that his crushes are on guys, and will probably always be on guys. Hee Sin’s response took me back to this incredible scene from The Fosters, in which Lena’s dad apologizes to her for saying “I still love you.” He rejects it as something horrible, in which you confirm to your kid that you could possibly stop loving them. He says he wishes he had instead said, “Thank you for telling me something so important about yourself, and I can’t wait to meet the person you want to share your life with.”
I’m also annoyed about the insistence that the straights were given priority in this narrative in which everyone gets about the same level of on-screen intimacy. This is a show that managed to avoid getting an R rating, which means that it’ll be accessible to a much wider range of viewers without needing additional parental controls. The straights getting time means that when the gays throw the ease at which they pursued romance back in their faces, it’s actually grounded in events that transpired in the narrative. I will also say that I did NOT like the way Jiyu and Chanyoung meddled with Heesu in the webtoon, and thought conspiring with Seung Won was not kind to Heesu. I like that the drama instead uses their stories to support the queer themes as Ji Yu directly supports Seung Won.
I’d also like to say that all the Chan Young commentary troubles me. Hee Su has been in love with this boy for ten years. I actually think the show needs to spend time fleshing him out into a real person for the audience to understand why Hee Su likes him so much. He’s charming and friendly. He’s kind and thoughtful. He wants to help the people he cares about. He also trusts Hee Su implicitly.
I do not blame him for being overwhelmed and surprised when Hee Su suddenly confessed to him, and I think there is real value in him botching that moment. So many viewers who might not have spent a lot of time thinking about how they would handle queer people coming out to them will benefit from seeing Chan Young flub that moment. What’s more important is that he did eventually talk to Hee Su and begin to repair the break in their friendship. It isn’t about being right every single time; it’s about always doing the work required to make things right.
Finally, I really loved that Hee Su got to be mad at Seung Won for confusing him all this time. It was fun to see Hee Su, who I think was way out of line for always interfering in Chan Young’s life, face the reality that he had also been subject to that kind of behavior. This worked so well for me because we understood that what Seung Won liked so much about Hee Su was how warm and open he was. I will have more to say in the future about how many shows we’ve already had this year reject one-sided pining as inherently pure.
In the end, it’s just a really dissonant experience for me to see such a kind show getting such an energetic negative response. Like anyone else who’s watched over 300 BLs since 2016, I like seeing cute boys kiss each other and make face as much as anyone else. However, if we’re unable to appreciate using a webtoon with clear ideas about the difficulty of coming out when you’re in love with a friend in a format that far more viewers are used to, I don’t think I can rock with this anymore. I can’t even find myself associated with the kinds of people who would have called Degrassi homophobic because it wasn’t exclusively gay.
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♥ masterlist | request rules | part one
♥ pairing: ex!lando norris x fem!reader x fem!oc x platonic!oscar piastri
♥ synopsis: the messy friendship breakup with lando was everywhere. it was assumed by the public that you’re now dating his teammate and there was truly no pr team strong enough to save mclaren. you were friends with lando’s girlfriend though. maybe too friendly.
♥ smau - fc: women on pinterest - as always none of the pictures are mine
♥ warnings: swearing, suggestive jokes, and hate comments !!!
♥ a/n: yn and imogen have so much chemistry I thought why not make this for my lesbian heart <3 ps lando is kind of the bad guy of this story but I'm actually an insane lando girl he's my og don't hate me its all for the plot lol
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user1 my girlfriend and i*
user2 this boy doesn't even know the difference between their there and they are
user3 oh baby we aren't hating on Imogen we're hating on you ❤️
user20 not y'all hating on him for speculations
user21 yn is the real villain here
user13 the lando hate is getting OUT of hand
user10 oh lando... the grammar in this post baby
user5 @/user10 HAHAHA
user9 LANDO'S GUILTY IDC #girlssupportinggirls
user6 @/user9 I support women's rights and women's wrongs
user17 all of a sudden he's posting Imogen... seems guilty to me he clearly did something
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user1 and they were... roomates? 😐
user3 yn in the first picture... she's got that oscar heart eyes piastri look
user2 not the friendzone 😔
user4 always an angel never a god
user9 is imogen actually comfortable with yn and lando not getting along?
user6 i mean yeah 🤷♀️ she’s clearly fine hanging out with the both of them
user7 i could never date a man my bsf hated
user18 @/user7 I could never be friends with a girl who makes up lies about my man...
user8 help I love wag friendships 🥹
user9 they’re so alex and rebecca
user10 AHHHHHH
user11 this is so girlhood
user12 i actually love that they can put their feelings towards lando aside and still be friends 🫂
alexandrasaintmleux we need to have a girls night !!
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what's y'all's opinion on the whole y/n x Imogen x lando thing??? it honestly breaks my heart to know that something happened with y/n and lando since they were best friends for so long. I remember her talking about what they were going to do when he got his first win on Quadrant a few years back and obviously that didn't happen when he finally accomplished it in Miami. I'm still a fan of both but damn what could've happened between the two for it to end like this??
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user1 probably not a hot take but I think he's still so hung up on yn even if they weren't dating. he doesn't post about Imogen at all and never mentions her the way he used to mention Y/n.
user2 yeah honestly I think he might be using Imogen to fill the Y/n shaped hole in his heart
user3 I think Y/n's being superrr petty
user4 ...we don't even know what happened bro what are you on about
user3 that post about Oscar and Imogen be so ffr
user4 clearly Imogen was okay with it otherwise it would've been taken down
user5 if I'm being so honest... I don't give a fuck about what happened with lando because there appears to be a sapphic renaissance happening in f1 right now
user6 LMAOO
user7 wag yuri forever
user8 why has NO one mentioned Oscar in this??
user9 OH MY GOSH RIGHT LOL I thought they were a couple for so long but I heard that they never confirmed it?? and it doesn't look like he's interacted with lando on his socials recently but that might be normal idk
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user1 it is !
iamimogen the trio goes hard
user2 it could be a foursome but noooo
user3 leaving out your own bf is crazyyyy
user4 I'd leave out my bf for y/n too
user5 IMOGEN AND LANDO DONT EVEN LIKE EACH OTHER ATP 😭😭😭
user6 I'm just tryna ignore the drama
user7 real
user8 if Imogen and yn are cool than I'm cool
user9 Imogen and yn spotted again!!!
user10 my favorite grid couple 🥹
user11 ...sorry??
user12 I SHIP YN AND OSCAR IDC
user11 @/user12 oh girl
user13 why the fuck is lando's girlfriend hanging out with her?? shes spreading rumors about him
user14 right?? clout hungry much...
user15 shes GOTTA be deleting comments
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user17 alex what do you know that we don't
user18 okay caption queen
user19 they're so bestie core
user10 bad race day but we're so proud of you osc 🫶
user3 sooooo how are we feeling about lando's win yn nation
user6 ...
user5 lets not talk about it
user4 and during Oscars home race 😭
user8 @/user4 he hired an Etsy witch for this shii I swear
user9 did you see Robert Irwin
yourusername GOD I WISH
yourusername literally shape shifting into a snake as we speak
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mclaren thanks for bringing enough birthday cupcakes for the class
yourusername ofc pookies anything for the garage
landonorris I didn't get any
yourusername @/landonorris well... yeah
iamimogen I got one 🥰
yourusername @/iamimogen there's always extra for you <3
user1 holy shit this is the first time I've seen her and lando interact publiclly in like a year
user2 this is like the first time I've seen her Imogen AND lando interact too???
user3 lando's still lurkingggg
oscarpiastri ❤️❤️❤️
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user5 oh you guys are so cute
user7 THE CALICO CRITTER 🫶
user8 the makeup testing on the hand
yourusername he's a real man
user8 @/yourusername I don't doubt it


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f1gossip Y/n & Oscar and Lando & Imogen were each seen separately wandering around Tokyo the day of Oscar's birthday. We all know why the first couple is out, but we think there's something deeper on Lando's side.
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user16 I think he's trying to clear his mind. I mean Oscar and Y/n were his BEST FRIENDS and now its Oscars birthday and can't hang out with them?? makes sense that he's out
user7 you're psychoanalyzing them like crazy
user16 @/user7 yes and I love it
user2 "the first couple" be sooooo for real...
user5 Oscar and Y/n aren't dating!!!
user21 oh my god can people not go outside these days without drama?? 🙄
user22 right??? lando and imogen were literally just walking and people hate on them
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lando.jpg florida with this cool girl
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francisca.cgomes and my stolen dog??
pierregasly @/lando.jpg you gotta get @/iamimogen her own puppy
iamimogen better win this one for me
lando.jpg ❤️
user1 yn is lurking
user2 as she should
user3 Imogen is beautiful can you fucking blame her??
user4 she finally made it onto the feed
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f1gossip Y/n and Imogen were seen together in Miami after the Grand Prix! It seems they ditched the driver party to go off on their own and explore the city. Groups of fans caught them all over town at bars, Top Golf, arcades, and more.
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yourusername holyyy 👅👅
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user1 you're SOO real
user2 shes me guys
yourusername 😍😍😍
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landonorris stunning 😘
alexandrasaintmleux are you single
iamimogen I am for you
landonorris ???
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francolapinto 😉
yourusername come join me xx
user1 if I were her I'd flirt with Franco too
iamimogen ur so hot
yourusername all you pretty
user5 just fucking kiss already bruh
user2 are yn and Imogen at the same beach??
user3 YNIMOGEN CONFIRMED
user4 they're so couple goals oh my god
user7 is the last picture a call me by your name reference ☝️
yourusername LMAOOO
oscarpiastri shark
yourusername shark 🗣️🔥
user6 shark 🔥 🔥 🔥
user8 SHARK 😱
-Emilia Romagna GP-
You wandered over to the McLaren garage, spotting Imogen from across the paddock. You sprinted over to her as quick as you could in your heels.
"Hi," you giggled, throwing your arms over her.
She immediately hugged you back, pausing her conversation with one of Lando's mechanics.
You pulled away, "How are you?"
"Could be better," she said, running a hand through her hair. "Uhm... Oscar told me about you and Lando."
You blinked at her, completely stunned. No no no no no this can't be happening.
"I wanted to tell you I really really did, but I figured it wasn't worth it. I wasn't trying to be your friend just to get back at him or anything-"
She grabbed your shoulders and cut you off, "It's okay, I swear. I don't..." She sighed, "Blame you."
You hugged her again, this time tighter, "I'm so sorry."
"I'm breaking up with him tonight," she mumbled into your shoulder.
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user1 just two divas crossed by a man
user2 heartbreaking really
user3 it was bound to happen
user4 YNIMOGEN NATION HOW WE FEELING 👹
user5 they’re 100% in love
user28 let’s not speculate about someone’s sexuality
user5 @/user28 says someone who has no problem when people started rumors about yn and oscar…
user7 @/user5 CLOCK IT
user8 i love women
user9 wag yuri wag yuri
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alexandrasaintmleux 😍😍😍
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user1 the girls nights in question: ✂️
user2 gay gay homosexual gay
user3 @/landonorris generational fumble
user4 i could take them both (not in a fight)
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user5 KIKA?!
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f1gossip looks like these two girls have a closer relationship than what meets the eye. yn and imogen have been spotted on what look like numerous dates throughout this f1 season. is it possible that the two former wags have formed their own romantic bond?
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yourusername not a gossip page hard launching for me 💔
iamimogen 💋💋
oscarpiastri this is how i find out???
yourusername @/oscarpiastri surprise 🥰
lilymhe cuties
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user5 HELLO???
user6 what the hellyante
user7 not yn confirming their relationship this is so tea 😭
iamimogen all the rumors are true 🤭
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Facts:
JV is a very recent convert to (allegedly, see next) Roman Catholicism.
JV is a sedevacantist*, a radical brand of Roman Catholic who believes that the Pope isn't actually the Pope (!) is schismatic, and seeks to overthrow the Vatican. ( * sede vacante "the vacant chair" meaning "no Pope on the Throne")
As Veep, JV has direct access and control of the CIA. (The CIA doesn't swear an oath to defend the people of America or the US Constitution—they swear fealty to the Executive Branch.)
The CIA, as do all spy agencies, have many bioweapons and chemical agents they are known to use for incapacitation and assassination purposes. Some of those agents cause the lungs to fill with fluid, causing death from "pneumonia"—especially if medical staff are unaware.
The Pope is dead. (Yeah the Vatican probably isn't faking it? This is the weakest "Fact")
The Timeline:
In January, newly minted Veep JV criticized his church’s role in immigration advocacy very brazenly on CBS’ Face the Nation. JV suggested the Catholic Church was in it for the money: “Are they worried about humanitarian concerns or are they actually worried about their bottom line?” (This begins his public hat red of the Pope.)
In this past February of the Jubilee Year 2025, Pope Francis publicly and rightfully criticized the Trump administration's increasingly worsening immigration policies: particularly the inhumane mass deportation plan, calling it a "major crisis". For the first time, the Pope appeared to specifically address Vice President JD Vance.
JV publicly clapped back and claimed the evil deportation policies were actually endorsed by Roman Catholic doctrine, specifically Ordo Amoris doctrine the concept of "rightly-ordered love" or "true charity"—a theological doctrine which is based in Jesus's parable of The Good Samaritan about helping others.
The Pope, who is the Pontiff of the Roman Catholic Church and who can indeed pontificate on the moral teachings with divine authority, then gave public homily and statements (without mentioning JV specifically) TL;DR—it is heretical and schismatic to claim it is Ordo Amoris when the mass deportation and Trumpism's policies and actions are in fact obviously evil and the exact opposite of the doctrine about charity, compassion, hope and love for all.
Every other theologian on the planet calls JV a retarded twat. They all side with the Pope on Twitterx.com and...
JV refers to himself as a "baby Catholic" and tweeted that there are "things about the faith that I don't know" but he publicly and obstinately asserts that he's right and the Pope is wrong. This is the definition of heresy, believe it or not.
Vance acknowledged that the Pope was critical of him, but stated he would "continue to defend his views"—whatever that means...
Oh, look! The Pope's suddenly been taken ill!
Oh, look! In intensive care in the best hospital in Italy,Rome's Gemelli Hospital—sure this is just normal, common-or-garden-variety "pneumonia"
February 28, JV addresses a National gathering of Catholics, unrepentantly announcing firmly that he's not going to “litigate with [the Pope] or any other clergy member about who’s right and who’s wrong”—
JV: "I don't think it's good for us as Christians to constantly fight with one another over every single controversy in the church"
The Freudian slip: “That is how I will always remember the Holy Father, as a great pastor, as a man who can speak truth to faith in a very profound way at a moment of great crisis,” JV appeared to prematurely eulogize the still very much alive Pope, with wording that would mirror the actual eulogical tweet less than 12 hours after the April Easter meeting.
Still February 28, JV seemed surprised to learn from the Bishops thar Pope Francis might actually pull through, and awkwardly attempted to take intercessory credit: “Every day since I heard of Pope Francis’s illness I say a prayer for the Holy Father because while yes, I was certainly surprised when he criticized our immigration policy in the way that he has, I also know that the pope, I believe that the pope, is fundamentally a person who cares about the flock of Christians under his leadership, and he’s a man who cares about the spiritual direction of the faith...” as long as that direction is Trumpism, and the Pope doesn't get in the way, and God protects him from assassination attempts...
April; Easter Sunday; The Vatican: JV forces a meeting with Pope Francis seemingly for the sole purpose of shaking his hand.
The Pope has a sudden ischemic stroke, enters a coma and shortly dies.
The stroke could have been caused by any of the transdermal hemostatic chemical agents routinely used for such purposes, or something else, but the handshake points to Prince JV and his retenue.


The Evidence:
Corpus Delicti quantity (1), dead Pope.
Modus Operandi and outcome consistent with CIA, and JV going to "finish the job—because if you want something done right, sometimes you have to do it yourself"
In Terrorem JV has repeatedly, appeared to warn the Pope to back off, has eulogized the living Pope, and had a very public imbroglio ce altercatio
Pleno Iure Excommunicato Recapiendo JV is a schismatic heresy twofer: Obstinancy and Sede Vacante
The Verdict:
👩⚖️ A Sussus Amogus


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The Exterminator
You recently found a few roaches in your home which was only the start. Mice and other bugs started popping up so you searched for a cheap embittered effective exterminator online. You landed on bomb-exterminations. The reviews were weird though, “it worked but my house stank for a week” “some of my stuff broke 2 stars!” Well it was cheap, and I’ll probably have to replace some items but at least it works, with the click of a button and the punch of your card they’d arrive tomorrow. *knock knock knock* you open the door to find the most attractive man you’ve ever seen. “Hello Sir, bomb-exterminations here!” A tall buff man in a blue polo that was stretched to its limits stood in the door. “Oh yes thank you come in” you step to the side as he walks past, your gaze fixed on his big ass stretching his jeans to the limit. You regain your composure long enough to ask him how if he was gonna start in the basement and work his way up or some other way. All the man says is don’t worry just leave the house for a bit since the gas he’s gonna use is really potent so it’s best to not be here during it and by the end your house will be critter free. He walked up the stairs and out of view. Though a little creepy you decided to follow behind him quietly so he wouldn’t notice your presence, watching him from around the corner. “He said gas, where is his tank and mask?” You thought to yourself until he pulled down his pants unveiling his bare ass cheeks BBRRPPPBBTTTTTTTTT The large man ripped a fat one, green gas spilling out from his huge ass. The gas quickly making its way down the hall BBRPBBTTTTTT into every room PPRRRTTTTTT and every floor BBRRTTTTTTT. You couldn’t help but be turns on, the sheer power of his ass had you hooked. You saw mice and bugs falling over from the smell it was impressive and quite scary. You accidentally took a full inhale, his gas toxic you tried to hold in your coughs but the smell was too much. You coughed and gagged much like the critters you were trying to get rid of. He noticed you as you fell over onto the floor his gas too strong. You awoke outside on your lawn the fresh air feeling like the first sip of water after traveling the dessert. You look to your left to see the man standing over you making sure you’re okay. “I did warn you sir. I would apologize but by the look of your friend there I can tell you enjoyed it.” I massive bulge was in your pants but as you hunched over, hands covering your face red. PPPRRBBBTTT “Whew even out there they tend to linger for a while.” The man said while waving his arm behind his ass. “Im Mateo by the way.” He hands you a piece of paper with a number on it. “I’ll leave you this so you can always reach me personally for my services.” He winks at you and rips another tiny but still potent fart that leaves you dazed.
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I used to defend army’s relationship with BTS a lot back when I was still an army. Especially from kpop stans who said we were a cult. Even did so earlier into my days after becoming a solo, but through everything that has happened, especially recently. I’ve really come to realize just how toxic it is.
I saw a these three posts earlier yesterday. (Top one from another pjm bottom ones are mine) the top one might be a solo, but solo or not though, I still know that that all 3 are common sentiments for a lot of actual armys anyway: their fear of becoming obsolete in their need of wanting to be the only people Jimin relies on, basically wanting to own him and loosing BTS as they know them.
The top one literally reads exactly like how music execs used to (still do in fact) view them in regards to BTS. The music industry’s fear of armys encroaching on the decades long ecosystem of keeping artists indebted to their labels in the pursuit of chart success and fame. How they hated how armys beat the system and started a grassroots movement that allowed BTS to get to where they are now.
It was never about really wanting anything for Joon. Armys just feel like they’re loosing control, influence and are trying to reassert it just like Billboard did. Intentionally using underhanded tactics to ostracize us and Jimin. Delegitimization of our efforts and dactively trying to break our morale. There’s a reason they care about quelling us more than the other groups of solos who are just as large in numbers despite them presenting actual harm to Jimin’s person and character. They care more about keeping their norm and BTS in tact for their own stanning needs over anything else. We’re a threat to that.
And even outside their hatred of solos, most importantly, BTS is an even bigger threat to that. The bottom two are proof of this. Staying in solo era longer than they're comfortable with. The hidden resentment that they hold towards those men for doing so. Because here you have a fandom with a superiority complex that's so egotistical, they believe that they could never be like other kpop fandoms who treat the group they stan like property and characters. When, in just this past week alone, we've had 3 instances with them proving that they're exactly like that. And I think the company is using and has been using that mentality of armys to their advantage. Them thinking that they're too "aware" to be manipulated as well as them believing that they always do what they feel is best for BTS.
It's symbiotic and parasitic in that way. Where the company is potentially weaponizing armys (unbeknownst to them) by carrying out their own agendas against through them at the cost of destroying the foundation of the fanbase. And where both armys and the company work in tandem to keep a member (Jimin) in line.
It is a little scary to me, because as we've seen last year, Bang has very underhanded ways of ruining people who he views as a threat or don't fit within his vision. Armys are so unperceptive and it has very little with them being naive. They just don't feel the need to question anything as long as they're also content with things falling in line with their version of normal. They always need visible and verbal proof that something is wrong before they move to act. So to be willing to ignore all that, some of the members being burnt out, Bang's obvious campaign against Jimin (and potentially Joon) just to get back the BTS they're used to just shows how selfish most of them are.
#and that’s why I know that they will not be extending these men any grace if they decide to call it quits before they deem fit#or navigate away from what they want#despite that ‘trust BTS’ mantra they love to parrot#very long post#I didn’t want to put it under a read more though
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Just the facts:


Facts:
JV is a very recent convert to (allegedly, see next) Roman Catholicism.
JV is a sedevacantist, a radical brand of Roman Catholic who believes that the Pope isn't actually the Pope (!) is schismatic, and seeks to overthrow the Vatican. (* sede vacante "the vacant chair" meaning "no Pope on the Throne")
As Veep, JV has direct access and control of the CIA. (The CIA doesn't swear an oath to defend the people of America or the US Constitution-they swear fealty to the Executive Branch.)
The CIA, as do all spy agencies, have many bioweapons and chemical agents they are known to use for incapacitation and assassination purposes. Some of those agents cause the lungs to fill with fluid, causing death from "pneumonia"-especially if medical staff are unaware.
The Pope is dead. (Yeah the Vatican probably isn't faking it? This is the weakest "Fact")
The Timeline:
1. In January, newly minted Veep JV criticized his church's role in immigration advocacy very brazenly on CBS' Face the Nation. JV suggested the Catholic Church was in it for the money: "Are they worried about humanitarian concerns or are they actually worried about their bottom line?" (This begins his public hat red of the Pope.)
2. In this past February of the Jubilee Year 2025, Pope Francis publicly and rightfully criticized the Trump administration's increasingly worsening immigration policies: particularly the inhumane mass deportation plan, calling it a "major crisis". For the first time, the Pope appeared to specifically address the alleged Catholic, JV.
3. JV publicly clapped back and claimed the evil deportation policies were actually endorsed by Roman Catholic doctrine, specifically Ordo Amoris doctrine the concept of "rightly-ordered love" or "true charity"-a theological doctrine which is based in Jesus's parable of The Good Samaritan about helping everyone.
4. The Pope, who is the Pontiff of the Roman Catholic Church and who can indeed pontificate on the moral teachings with divine authority, then gave public homily and statements (without mentioning JV specifically) TL;DR-it is heretical and schismatic to claim it is Ordo Amoris when the mass deportation and Trumpism's policies and actions are in fact obviously evil and the exact opposite of the doctrine about charity, compassion, hope and love for all.
5. Every other theologian on the planet calls JV a retarded twat. They all side with the Pope on Twitterx.com and...
6. JV refers to himself as a "baby Catholic" and tweeted that there are "things about the faith that I don't know" but he publicly and obstinately asserts that he's right and the Pope is wrong. This is the definition of Heresy, believe it or not.
7. Vance acknowledged that the Pope was critical of him, but stated he would "continue to defend his views"-whatever that means...
8. Oh, look! The Pope's suddenly been taken ill!
9. Oh, look! In intensive care in the best hospital in Italy, Rome's Gemelli Hospital-sure this is just normal, common-or-garden-variety "pneumonia"
10. February 28, JV addresses a National gathering of Catholics, unrepentantly announcing firmly that he's not going to "litigate with [the Pope] or any other clergy member about who's right and who's wrong"-
11. JV: "I don't think it's good for us as Christians to constantly fight with one another over every single controversy in the church"
12. The Freudian slip: "That is how I will always remember the Holy Father, as a great pastor, as a man who can speak truth to faith in a very profound way at a moment of great crisis," JV appeared to prematurely eulogize the still very much alive Pope, with wording that would mirror the actual eulogical tweet less than 12 hours after the April Easter meeting.
13. Still February 28, JV seemed surprised to learn from the Bishops thar Pope Francis might actually pull through, and awkwardly attempted to take intercessory credit: "Every day since I heard of Pope Francis's illness I say a prayer for the Holy Father because while yes, I was certainly surprised when he criticized our immigration policy in the way that he has, I also know that the pope, I believe that the pope, is fundamentally a person who cares about the flock of Christians under his leadership, and he's a man who cares about the spiritual direction of the faith..." as long as that direction is Trumpism, and the Pope doesn't get in the way, and God protects him from assassination attempts...
14. April; Easter Sunday; 🇻🇦The Vatican: JV forces a meeting with Pope Francis seemingly for the sole purpose of shaking his hand.
15. The Pope has a sudden ischemic stroke, enters a coma and shortly dies.
16. This stroke could have been caused by any of the transdermal hemostatic chemical agents routinely used for such purposes, or something else, but the handshake points to Prince JV and his retenue.


The Evidence:
Corpus Delicti quantity (1), dead Pope.
Modus Operandi and outcome consistent with CIA, and JV going to "finish the job-because if you want something done right, sometimes you have to do it yourself"
In Terrorem—JV has repeatedly, appeared to warn the Pope to back off, has eulogized the living Pope, and had a very public imbroglio ce altercatio
Pleno lure Excommunicato Recapiendo JV is a self-avowed schismatic heresy twofer: Obstinency and Sede Vacante
The Verdict:
👩⚖️ A Sussus Amogus
#no links#do your own research#dead pope#pope#pope francis#papal law#vatican#sede vacante#jv#jd vance#vance#couch fucker#roman catholic#jubilee 2025#easter#new pope#conspiracy theories#mass deportations#genocide#catholics#cia#swiss guard#tumblr grand jury
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Stranger Things, Peter Pan, Mothers, and Wendys
Some Peter Pan artifact, I'd guess a Disney movie tie-in book, hanging out in Holly's room
I recently watched The Lost Boys and read Peter Pan (really Peter and Wendy in The Annotated Peter Pan but what version of the story is "the original" is infamously convoluted).
The Lost Boys was a viewing experience that made me feel like I understood the Duffers’ whole deal in a completely new way - like watching Election finally made me understand what Ryan Murphy has actually been trying to do all this time. I know we’re always like Spielberg, King, Carpenter, etc but how much of this movie is in ST’s DNA is pretty wild, there even is a “barricading the house against a supernatural threat with everyday items as makeshift weapons" montage with a synth score. Joel Schumacher we gotta start giving you your proper due in this conversation, we do simply owe gay ppl everything (also as with any worthwhile ST reference to pull at @/threemanoperation has already been on this beat)
Anyways, The Lost Boys is a spiritual Peter Pan adaptation and one big current that shows up from its source text is a real preoccupation with the mother.
These aren’t the only ST reference texts with a lot of mom stuff going on. We’re getting probably the icon of genre movie motherhood herself with Linda Hamilton joining the show in s5, and pregnancy body horror is like the entire thing in extremely obvious ST creature design touchpoint Alien.
Terminator 2: Judgement Day
Linda Hamilton seems to be playing a female counterpoint to Brenner/Papa, so all signs point to them intentionally invoking that reference at least.
Joyce is our purest Spielberg mom: the harried single parent, doing her best, a bit eccentric. She’s taken a backseat in recent seasons, but a new maybe-Mama taking on Papa's mantle as s5’s primary human antagonist points to Joyce taking more of a lead again.
Joyce seeming to spend a substantial chunk of s5 separated from Hopper gives me hope, as does her seeming to be the most connected with Henry of our ST-adult-cast-as-teens in The First Shadow. We heard Victor’s story last season, so turning to Virginia’s role in the tragedy of Henry might be another narrative element that pulls Joyce out as a foil.
One of our other established moms, Karen, also looks to be getting an expanded role in s5. If Holly is indeed taken by the military, she should join Joyce to take on Linda Hamilton (are we ever going to learn her character name good lord).
If Joyce and Karen are our Mrs. Darlings, then we have the Wendy-coded among us: "mothergate" creator El, and Alienesque body horror victim/slug incubator Will.
Like Wendy, El and Will both have their own personal playhouses even within the broader kid kingdoms of Neverland, Mike’s basement, and the woods.
And, of course, once Wendy leaves Neverland and grows up, she has a daughter named Jane who eventually journeys to Neverland with Peter herself.
Wendy’s primary “power” in Peter Pan is storytelling, which lives with mothers in the book/play in a very fairy tale logic sort of way. Peter is initially attracted to the Darlings’ nursery window by Mrs. Darling’s bedtime stories. And that's the reason he is convinced to bring Wendy to Neverland (she "tempts him" with stories).
This actually convinces Peter to bring Wendy to Neverland even if he isn't so hot on the idea of mothers himself. "The Boy Who Hated Mothers" was a working title for Peter Pan the play.
There is an interesting relationship between storytelling and time in Peter Pan that probably deserves more exploration, maybe a topic for a later post. The residents of Neverland exist out of time, which means they can’t conceptualize beginnings or endings - and that's why they can’t tell stories and Wendy's ability to do so has such allure.
in Neverland, time has literally been killed
I still haven’t totally made sense of what this implies for our Neverlandesque-frozen-in-time Upside Down and El and friends’ preoccupation with stories in s5. But it feels significant in the final act of our coming-of-age story, especially considering why the Upside Down is stuck on November 6, 1986 is allegedly a driving mystery of what's to come, according to the Duffers.
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I watched M for the first time last night and

If he child murderer why he have the roundest saddest puppy-dog eyes I’ve ever seen.
#this was one of the best viewing experiences I’ve ever had actually#s tier movie#it is a testament to lorre’s acting that he managed to scare and discomfort me horribly while also having the sweetest face I’ve ever seen#I should mention that I wanted to watch M for a while but it recently came back on my radar from the tf2 movie emesis blue#for my Faust mutuals: it took me way too long to realize that gustaf gründgens is in this movie#Fritz Lang#Peter Lorre#German expressionism#film noir#M#M film#film history
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... Will you guys please let me talk about hgduo/gossipduo/mockingjays/ whatever they are called a little more pleaseeeeeeeeee, they make me unwell and I want to get my thoughts about them out of my head- or more specifically about them from Bad's point of view!
There's a familial air to it, but it's just not true to define it like that- and that doesn't make what they DO have any less powerful or significant- They have a unique bond and that continues to be true, even during painful times like this.
Cellbit WAS Bad's responsibility at one point, and that time came and went- he got him through the war and into adulthood ( aka 18 years old or close to it.) They meet again as old friends and generally respect each other as such... but even so Bad can't deny he still feels some duty to watch over the man once he starts crumbling- much like how Cellbit as well can't help but reach out to Bad during this time.
but there's limits.
like- Bad for years had and still wants to protect Cellbit, he's had an influence on him, he taught him how to survive, he himself acknowledges he has some responsibility over Cellbit, looking at Cellbit right now feels like looking in a mirror, he doesn't like having to give up on him, but if it's between him and the kids he's choosing the kids every time... and he knows there is no simple way to save someone who refuses to let themself be saved.
And it hurts! It hurts seeing Cellbit like this! It hurts having to let him burn! It hurts watching someone he cares for falling down the same path he is! It hurts knowing he's hurting others the way it did for him seeing Cellbit like this! It hurts having to choose his kids over his protege/ student/ former responsibility/ the kid he watched over years ago/ old friend/ his 'something'!
Like, cc!Bad brought up this internal mental tier list that q!Bad has- I still deeply believe that q!Cellbit is quite high up there even if he'll never be at the level his kids are at- like he loves Cellbit enough that he ACTUALLY CONSIDERED putting parts of his months long plan at risk to save him- even if it was just during the stress of that moment that still means a LOT from Bad- but he was always going to choose his kids in the end!
Based on what I know of q!Bad (which is admitably not a lot lol) there is next to nothing that'd convince him to give up on his kids- with Cellbit he's able to see that he can't help him because Cellbit sadly does not want to be saved- and for Bad that means he simply has to accept it even if he really doesn't like it- the emotions from that night have processed and he's looking at the situation from a more logical and resolute perspective. If it means him and Cellbit may one day clash, then with a heavy sigh so be it....
but if it was Dapper or Pomme... I just don't feel certain in saying he'd be able to come to that conclusion, especially not after one night. Even if it would be the 'smart' thing to do. It's one of the key differences between the dynamic he has with them vs Cellbit...
But, in a perfect situation, he would've done everything to save them both.

Anyway thanks for reading, posting this at hell hours so my beloved mutuals won't see my hgduo ramblings but tagging this anyway for other people to see LMAO-
#mockingjays#hgduo#gossipduo#qsmp#badboyhalo#cellbit#God it's honestly a major problem how in love with this dynamic I am because I rly don't feel like I know shit about Bad or Cellbit LOL#like I enjoy both of their characters a lot but I feel so uncertain about actually ever talking about them- I enjoy them a LOT#but I don't think I have the best grasp on them as characters compared to others- wish I did though!#esp. Cellbit despite having been in love with his character since he joined- hence why I talk more about Bad's point of view LOL#wish I knew more Portuguese so I could 'get' q!Cellbit more I love him </3#I always feel scared talking about them because their other fans just get them way better then I do- I'm just hyperfixing over one aspect!#one last comment I do generally feel like they have a similar view of one another of like-but recently I feel like Cellbit wants to view Ba#as something closer to a parental figure- consciously or not- but he still doesn't see him as family- at least not in his past#They were two dudes doing whatever it took to survive- but still he was a child and Bad was the adult he looked up to!#longpost
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[image description: four selfies of me, a white nonbinary person with long brown hair and a faint wispy mustache. I'm wearing a black sleeveless hoodie and translucent glasses in a subtle blue-pink-white gradient. in all four photos I'm standing so that the right half of my face/body is in bright sunlight and the left half is in shadow. in the first photo I'm standing with my head slightly tilted and my arms down. in the second I have one arm slung over my head, with the edge of a top surgery scar visible through the arm hole of my hoodie. in the third I'm leaning close to the camera with one hand on my chin. and in the last photo my arms are crossed and I'm smiling. end id]
every day is trans day of visibility when you have trans pride glasses. to give you visibility.
(they/them or zie/hir)
#bluh bluh#a face with a view#it me#gpoy#I don't love the third pic overall but I like how my eyes look#and for layout reasons I wanted to use four pictures. so. here we are#the first and last ones are the best. first is maybe one of my favorite selfies I've taken in recent memory
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the aftermath of my game of solitaire was a perfect opportunity to get a picture of the photos in my new deck of playing cards from the “long room” of the trinity college library!!
#mine#studyblr#libraries#dark academia#trinity college#they were like €6 max and they’re the best cards i’ve ever had#sturdy and beautiful and wonderful yay!!#and i got them in the gift shop after i had one of the best exhibit experiences of#my life — the book of kells experience is unmissable genuinely#even if you’re normal about books but especially if you’re autistic about books you have got to go#if you’re ever anywhere near dublin make a point of attending cause it’s absolutely wonderful#it started with exhibits about illuminated manuscripts and the history of record keeping in ireland and the making of writing materials like#ink and vellum. then some case studies in the making of the book of kells and related manuscripts. then you get to view the actual book#then you visit the library’s long room. a beautiful sight there’s statues and arched ceilings and everything you can see on these cards#as well as more exhibits including recent acquisitions and also artifacts like the oldest extant irish harp which the emblem is based on!!#and an art installation of a huge projection of earth from nasa images which is called gaia. it wasn’t my favorite part at all but it was#cool enough that if it were anywhere other than the coolest place ever i would have liked it a lot#anyway then there’s a whole exhibit about the book conservation process as well as some soundscapes and videos about childrens books and all#and eventually you make it to the gift shop and buy playing cards and it’s been the best two hours you’ve had in forever. highly recommend#ANYWAY IM NOT AN ADVERTISEMENT FOR TRINITY COLLEGE. it was just great. the end#ALSO. sorry for making an ass of myself with academia tags idk why the internet is like this. reverting to my middle school roots apparently
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What do you do when a friend really wants to play a game with you but it's a horror game and you Really really do not like horror games because horror media tends to make your paranoia worse but you have already said no to most of her suggestions because well. They all just seem like I wouldn't really be having a lot of fun there is all....I feel like such an asshole but I just really do not think I'd have fun playing phasmophobia and I'm not spending 20€ on a game I have no interest in playing but just. Like. I feel like I kind of owe it to her atp for generally being not the best of friends there is.
#she wantwd me to get a pony world account i dislike making new accounts for things if I don't absolutely have to and also I would never#have been on there realistically#i refuse to download roblox I simply refuse#and I do not like horror games#most of them at least#there's a lot of potential in the genre I'm sure#but I just can not stand jumpscares and that ''oooo someone is watching youuu'' stuff and i enjoy a lot of sillyness#but as assholey as I am making myself sound when i say thid#stuff like poppy playtime or fnaf or stuff like that just#i sound like such a snob good god but where is the complex themes and motives#i worry we simply do not enjoy the same kind of stuff which is fine i think#nothing bad aboht enjoying the same stuff but i always feel so bad when I have to explain that I just really am not that interested in the#kind of horror media she seems to enjoy#it just does nothing for me at best and at worse it makes me constantly check behind myself while brushing my teeth because I don't trust#the mirror to actually show me there's nobody there#or should I just get over myself and do her this one favour.....#i do feel silly every time i try to explain myself there tbh because what in the flapdoodle do you mean#''you don't trust the mirror to show you there isn't actually anyone standing behind you''#it sounds silly doesn't it#recently I've also started to worry I'm being recorded or filmed so now i have to lie my phone in a place where I wouldn't be in camera view#or every time I say something potentially ''incriminating'' i first have to check i don't accidentally left a voicemail open or something#I don't know man I just have the feeling horror is not a genre I should indulge in not going to lie there it just.#it just does not seem like a grand idea to be is all#especially not for 20 quid hello thats 20€ i could spend on stuff that wont make me scared of doors that arent fully closed#but logically speaking i know thats over the top and silly so. sigh. harsh decisions to be made here...
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Hello and happy Halloween! Just a quick post to pop in to the feed and say THANK YOU to everyone who has been following along with AGBInk this year! It means so much to know that there are people out there who like my writing enough to engage with it!
This month's total word count came out to 57,076 words, which is... insane. Even spread out over 31 different pieces, that's still an average of nearly 1850 words a day! I really do think this writing challenge was a good thing for me. Hopefully, over the course of November, I'll be able to post not only new stuff, but work on editing and re-uploading my old ABGInk fics from 2019!
Once again, thank you all so much for your readership. I hope that you enjoy them and future fics!
#original content#The Aelon ones are popping OFF thank you pavellan stans#Trek and Binoculars and my Redren fics are all at or around like 40 to 50 views which is#wild#constantly doing my best to not poke queenofangrymoths every time the recent poll gets a new vote#I need to know what The People are interested in!!#anyway#thank y'all again#I love you so much
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I feel like I've said this quite a lot the last few months, but as far as anyone in my past is concerned, I'm a whole new ass person. I'm happy and have found myself in the best way possible and, for some reason, that infuriates the toxic people who have long since left my life.
#jace noises#this is purely personal and im sorry#i try to keep it positive on my blog but i went through the ringer last night i swear#I'm good though#I've just said this to many people#i hit a certain point pre covid where i no longer gave a fuck how people saw me anymore#not in a bad way#i always do my best to make sure its safe spaces for people#i spend a lot of my time advocating for mental health#especially in queer spaces#because no one deserves to feel the same pain and struggles i had you know?#tldr i just know who i am as a person#and what my values are with healthy boundaries attached#and recently its ruffled the feathers of people who can't control me#im too headstrong#im never going to change who i am because it doesn't someone's views ever again#and ultimately if you are reading these tags#whether a stranger or a moot or whoever#neither should you. within reason of course#don't be scummy#before anyone gets concerned#i am truly okay
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the sense of having any lore about the ancient [ten to thirteen years ago] of marble hornets times like granpa granpa tell us a greentext story....the only hitch is not having stories and instead having "i guess you had to be there" tales from the fringes, unless instead of a hitch you frame this as a bit
#like what's crucial info from then? who knows. smthing neat abt mh is its iterative resurgences apparently lol. got a wavelength#from the start it was always [queer fans queer fans trans fans trans fans] etc to be sure#by ''thee start'' i mean i showed up a couple of months? weeks? before s2 started. i think amnesia: the dark descent was partly to thank to#i mean of course it is in all things no matter the topic. and i feel manesia the dark manscent in this chili's tonight#one of the more [umm] first true spikes in New Ppl was when that game with the pages got streamed a lot#not a lot to work with there re: [you are already at mh hq] but brought ppl in like umm yea it's a little youtube movie here....#Back In Those Days...when youtube had a Reply feature for videos which i would have forgotten was anything if not for tta really....#the saga of [we didn't have any crisp behind the scenes pics of tim's mask for a while so deciding what its design seemed to be was tricky]#or [lucky that alex's striped hoody had both the inner seam highlights & the patch on the waistband] re: identifying it....#the hoody was already Out Of Production lol the base masks were from michael's crafts which i hear has recently discontinued them; pensive#paper mache cosplays here we go....#anyways nothing makes a good story. one time i sprinted to beat everyone on unfiction to solve a scrambled dvd cover#i managed to post it first (here on tumblr) And Then on unfiction; where it was also first lol. this was ignored#(one reply did a nominal shoutout like ''[other user] and others'' lmao)#i blog to this day....where's unfiction (rhetorical)#they were great for crowdsourcing codes but the Analysis(tm) left many things to be desired (i mean on tumblr too sometimes of Course)#unfiction would be like ''why is this entry delayed [thinking emoji]'' & truly the answer like ''they explained the behind the scenes reaso#in this linked facebook post here (the funy saga of joseph losing the distinctive out of print hoodie before its Part Two appearance)''#and the unfiction thread would continue apace like ''hmm guess we'll never know'' yeah apparently not#unsurprisingly my best Retro Tales From Behind The Scenes would be like; that fun mh viewing party commentary bit live event....#that there was overlap w/my first coming out transly times & probably had my Best Experience w/that from the mh creators lol#that thesis simply Is the tale. the bit abides
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