call me riptide, he/ix/pup/reef/void/it/river/deep. we ball. your favorite anti-radqueer who is called things such as "radqueerish" and "basically radqueer" because i think death threats are Bad, Actually
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that gruff and snippy tomboy doesn't need a dress he needs T and better friends
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singlets saying "i dont have an opinion on endo systems because im not a system" is no different than cis people saying "i dont have an opinion on nonbinary people because im not trans". like actually you cant really just "not have an opinion" when it comes to the existence of thousands of people i think. it doesnt matter if youre "just a singlet 🥺" i would think you should be capable of using your brain for, i dont know, five seconds?
like yeah sorry i dont have an opinion on whether or not trans women are allowed to be lesbians or not because im gay. what do you mean thats transphobic im just gay i cant have an opinion on that its Not Allowed /sarc
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hey mogai community we do understand that love languages arent real right. like we do all know that the concept of "love languages" were created by a misogynist to further misogyny by claiming that his wife's love language was "acts of service" so he could force her to keep cleaning the house. we all do know that theyve been completely debunked and we probably shouldnt use a term that has such misogynistic and abusive origins right. right?
#mogai#liom#mogai community#liomogai#xenolovelang#neolovelang#PLEASE USE A DIFFERENT TERM!!!! PLEASE!!!!!
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Thank you that helps explain things really well!!! Thank you for not yelling at me because I am radqueer-leaning thank you that makes a lot of sense to me
its no problem! im glad i was able to help. i never yell at people if theyre just asking honest questions dont worry
#asks#also i entirely understand being very suggestible because i used to be very suggestible too and still struggle with it sometimes#and its a LOT more difficult to find info on why bestiality is wrong besides 'its gross!!!!!' because often it entirely focuses on the-#people involved and not the animals#and a lot of people just accept 'well its just Bad' as a reason even when thats not really a good enough reason#like yes its gross to a lot of people but thats not why its bad. a lot of things are gross without being bad. there are much better reasons
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(Tone is confused but not upset) I'm someone radqueer-leaning but you seem like you actually think things through instead of just yelling at radqueers because we're gross or something so I hope it is okay for me to ask you this but I am a very suggestible person and I am starting to have a hard time with understanding why contact is bad with animals. I've seen videos and heard about instances where it is the animals that initiate sex, even at the very beginning, and I am kind of confused then why it is bad if the animal is the one initiating it. Right now I don't know what I think for contact stances but I guess that I wonder, if you acknowledge that an animal isn't going to weigh sex the same way a human will, why is it bad? And you seem like you might be able to actually explain it instead of just saying it's bad because it's gross or saying that it's abuse without elaborating. I hope this is okay to ask, thank you!!!
its very late rn but im going to explain this very quickly so i can go to bed since i didnt get to this ask until now
so basically, for one, the vast majority of animals are simply not capable of physically handling having sex with humans. their bodies are just not made for it. either theyre too small or differently shaped or for whatever reason, it will cause them a lot of pain and can be incredibly traumatic
for two, there is no way to 100% tell what an animal is feeling. an animal may be enjoying something, or it may not be- especially when it comes to sex, where the majority of animals get much more aggressive, which makes it even more difficult to tell what emotion the animal is trying to convey. even if you think that the animal wants this, it most likely doesnt (as ill explain in my next point), and you have no way to tell based exclusively on body language. there are no animals that are able to understand and communicate on the same level that humans can, which makes it impossible to consensually engage in sex
for three, the majority of animals do not want to mate with something that isnt the same species as them (with some exceptions, such as dolphins). for animals, mating is about producing offspring and that is the only point. animals want to mate with another animal that will produce the best offspring, they do not engage in sex for pleasure or out of love. because of that, they will not want to have sex with a human
for four, if you see a video or a post of an animal initiating sex with a human, that animal has been trained or otherwise forced to do that. many people claim that their animals "want to have sex with them", but that is simply not true. pets such as dogs learn to do things very easily if rewarded with treats and yelled at when they do something incorrectly- people teach their animals to have sex with them when the animal doesnt desire it the same way they teach their animals to stop barking even when the animal really wants to bark. however, teaching your animal to have sex with you is much, much worse, given the reasons i provided in earlier points
i hope that this helps explain things for you 👍
#asks#if there are any spelling mistakes its because im soooooooo eepy#anti contact#pro para#pro paraphile#pro paraphilia
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ngl i think most xenosatanists dont actually know about what it is beyond being pro-contact and pro-abuse. i guarantee none of them know about the "political bisexuality" part (which, as another person pointed out, is a TERF dogwhistle). most of them probably just want to be edgy and piss everyone off, like you said
also some people on the internet have an obsession with having a -phobia/-ism or (x)ERF variation for every single thing under the sun. like sometimes its genuinely helpful to explain oppression, but other times people will make up words like "transeyecolorphobic" or "RQERF" and its just like. literally what are you talking about here thats not even remotely a thing. pretty sure the "maladism" thing is just another discrimination microlabel since, like you said, its already included under ableism, and creating a term for it doesnt really add to the discussion in any way. petition to call it SERF (sickness exclusionary radical feminist) instead /j
everyone always talks about the worst parts of the xenosatanist term but i never see anyone mention some of the less problematic and more just stupid and "im 14 and just discovered what leftism is". im going to go over some of my favorite dumb things (and just things that should be addressed more often) in the carrd yay
pulling out the big words here. "desacrilisation" is not a word i see very often. i agree with this one but you can TELL this was written by someone imagining a perfect world with zero idea of how to actually achieve that
please get back to me on this what does this even mean
i have nothing to say about this. this is HILARIOUS. why does no one ever talk about this
xenosatanism number one goal is to turn the world cyberpunk and no one is talking about it /j
if you dont know what this means, it basically means "bisexuality is the morally correct option and everyone should choose to become bisexual". i never see anyone talking about this???
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also many people who think that it "didnt affect them" were actually affected by it and are just in denial, have been groomed into thinking that it didnt affect them, or have recovered from the trauma. for many people, their brains hide how bad it actually was to protect them - whether its through hiding memories or hiding the emotions associated with those memories, just leaving behind the memories with no emotions attached. also, many of these people are still minors and are in relationships with adults, and are being groomed into thinking its okay.
as someone who was in abusive relationships with adults when i was a child, i got extremely defensive when anyone told me my partner was abusing me, because i loved and cared about them. after i eventually found pro-c communities, i was told that minors dating adults was perfectly fine, and that kept me in denial about how bad it was and made me think that what happened to me didnt affect me at all because it was okay. now, after leaving those communities, im aware of how traumatized i was and how those relationships werent okay, even if i used to fully believe everything was completely fine.
even if you think "well it didnt affect me at all", it probably did - especially when its scientifically proven that it does badly affect people.
i hate when pro-cs say "i dated an adult when i was a child and i turned out fine" So Much. you could say "this is okay because it happened to me and i wasn't affected by it" with so many things. people say they "were hit and turned out fine" when someone says hitting children is bad. doesn't mean hitting children is suddenly fine. just because something happened to YOU and it didn't negatively affect YOU does not mean that it's okay and should be encouraged
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everyone always talks about the worst parts of the xenosatanist term but i never see anyone mention some of the less problematic and more just stupid and "im 14 and just discovered what leftism is". im going to go over some of my favorite dumb things (and just things that should be addressed more often) in the carrd yay
pulling out the big words here. "desacrilisation" is not a word i see very often. i agree with this one but you can TELL this was written by someone imagining a perfect world with zero idea of how to actually achieve that
please get back to me on this what does this even mean
i have nothing to say about this. this is HILARIOUS. why does no one ever talk about this
xenosatanism number one goal is to turn the world cyberpunk and no one is talking about it /j
if you dont know what this means, it basically means "bisexuality is the morally correct option and everyone should choose to become bisexual". i never see anyone talking about this???
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many people who support contradictory labels only support the ones that arent really contradictory at all most of the time (like bi lesbian or turigirl) and then hate the labels that are fully 100% contradictory (like bi toramoric or trixamoric man). if you support contradictory labels, you need to support all contradictory labels, and that includes ones that are actually contradictory. labels mean things to different people and peoples identities can be extremely complicated, and sometimes the labels they choose may inherently contradict each other. it doesnt matter if they contradict each other if thats what the person is most comfortable with; it isnt harming anyone.
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pro-cs after stringing together 30 logical fallacies with a tumblr post as their only source and calling it "proof" 11 year olds can consent and then shitting themselves and sobbing when people call them idiots
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the thing is, a lot of the people who say "im pro-endo but anti-endos can interact" will be best friends with people who constantly post hate about endo systems or theyll sometimes even be best friends with people who legitimately harass people and send people death threats. and, a lot of the time, these people arent close to any endo systems - kinda like the group of people who call themselves "endo-neutral" and then exclusively befriend and interact with anti-endos and hold very anti-endo beliefs and arent actually "neutral" at all but just say that theyre neutral so they can reblog moodboards and whatever with no consequences (saying this as someone who was one of those people for a while).
also, the idea that "all/most anti-endos are uneducated children who dont know what endos actually are" is a strawman fallacy i see a lot (anti-endos do this too towards pro-endos). the majority of anti-endos do know what endo systems are, and the majority of anti-endos are very educated (even if theyre educated on very cherry-picked sources, they do have sources, most arent just completely making things up). and, from my time in the anti-endo community, anti-endos are actually mostly adults or older teenagers (like 16/17). anti-endos are wrong because they cherry-pick outdated and debunked sources, not because theyre children or dont actually understand things. a lot of the time people on the internet will use "theyre all children" as an argument when its 1, factually wrong, and 2, ageist. a 13 year old pro-endo is not inherently incorrect about everything because theyre 13, either. (obviously you arent saying all of this or using it as your main argument like a lot of people do, but i figured id point it out anyways since i see this a Lot. its also something ive done myself because, like one of my favorite archaeologists said recently, literally everyone makes logical fallacies because its basically human nature to do that)
id also like to argue that many anti-endos are as bad as a lot of homophobes, just not on a national scale (theyre not as bad as nazis, i was just using that as an example of an oppressive group thats on like 100% of dnis). save for a select few anti-endos who just "dont want non-disordered systems to use actual systems' terminology" or whatever, the majority of anti-endos believe that all endo systems are either confusing their plurality with something else, actually are traumagenic but dont realize it, or are faking out of malice (just like how very common arguments towards gay people is either "youre just confused" or "well their attraction isnt the same as us straight people"). anti-endos post endo systems' private posts to make fun of them on very popular subreddits such as r/fakedisordercringe (just like that one libsoftiktok person or whatever her username was). many anti-endos harass endo systems for simply existing (even if they try to claim it "isnt real harassment" when they repeatedly send people asks saying that theyre liars and horrible people for "faking"). anti-endos have, in the past, doxxed endo systems and even caused at least one endo system to commit suicide (iirc, i heard about this a while ago so i might be remembering wrong - but i do have a couple friends who have been made extremely suicidal because of harassment from anti-endos). anti-endos arent just an online thing either - a couple of my irl friends are endo systems and theyve gotten harassed and hated irl too (including one of my irl friends having an anti-endo bring several of their anti-endo friends to "debate" him by just interrupting him constantly to say "thats not real", "thats impossible", "youre spreading misinformation", etc for twenty minutes until he was finally able to get them to leave). i know people who have had professionals tell them that being endogenic is impossible and that theyre faking for attention - ive had professionals doubt my DID diagnosis because im not anti-endo. obviously, not all anti-endos do every single one of these things, but most of them do this enough for it to be harmful (and id say that even telling someone "hey you dont exist" and nothing else is still very harmful, especially to people with paranoia or anxiety). anti-endos are not just "kids online who say mean things sometimes", they are a legitimate hate group, they arent any less harmful to people just because their community is smaller.
the majority of "pro-endo but anyone can interact" people used to be fully pro-endo until they realized that they could just interact with anti-endos and no one would care as long as they put "anyone can interact" on their profile. the reason why theres tons of anti-endos in the mogai community now is because all the formerly pro-endo bloggers dont care anymore because they and all their friends arent endo systems so they see no need to care. they post stuff like "anti-endos who dont harass people are amazing i love you" (because apparently the harassment is the only bad part, and the fact that theyre invalidating peoples entire existences doesnt matter) and get tons of notes because a lot of the people in that community do not actually care about endo systems. its incredibly unsafe for endo systems to have people claim to be pro-endo and then directly expose endos to harassment.
theres probably a lot more i could say but its currently 40 minutes past when i promised id go to bed so im going to end it here lol
"im pro-endo but i dont mind anti-endos interacting" would you allow a homophobe to interact with you? a transphobe? a racist? an ableist? a nazi? why is it suddenly different and "not as bad" when the discrimination, harassment, and death threats dont affect you specifically? why is it suddenly a "nuanced situation" when you arent the victim? are you really "pro-endo" if you refuse to even do the bare minimum to stand up for them instead of being best friends with people who want them to not exist?
#sighs and stares at sophie with disappointment#am i allowed to say she's making us look bad?#<- prev tags#i would say yeah tbh because shes like. pro-race transitioning lmao#i dont have the links to the posts currently but i can probably find them later#shes also friends with plenty of pro-cs (i knew a lot of pro-cs a while ago and a lot of them were friends with her)
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>find new blog
>check if theyre pro-endo or anti-endo
>bio says "pro-endo, but i dont mind anti-endos interacting"
>look at posts
>most recent post is them positively answering an ask from a violent anti-endo
"im pro-endo but i dont mind anti-endos interacting" would you allow a homophobe to interact with you? a transphobe? a racist? an ableist? a nazi? why is it suddenly different and "not as bad" when the discrimination, harassment, and death threats dont affect you specifically? why is it suddenly a "nuanced situation" when you arent the victim? are you really "pro-endo" if you refuse to even do the bare minimum to stand up for them instead of being best friends with people who want them to not exist?
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"im pro-endo but i dont mind anti-endos interacting" would you allow a homophobe to interact with you? a transphobe? a racist? an ableist? a nazi? why is it suddenly different and "not as bad" when the discrimination, harassment, and death threats dont affect you specifically? why is it suddenly a "nuanced situation" when you arent the victim? are you really "pro-endo" if you refuse to even do the bare minimum to stand up for them instead of being best friends with people who want them to not exist?
#pro endo#plural community#pluralpunk#pluralgang#mogai#liom#liomogai#pro endo mogai#pemogai#putting the userbox i made there lol
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When I was a young boy
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IM CRYING
down with found family. UP with FOUND DIVORCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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when people's only argument against family members safely and consensually dating is "their kids will be born with genetic defects!!!1!!" I'm consistently just flabbergasted by the tone deaf eugenicist ass ableism. like. okay so. my mother, who is disabled by a hereditary auto immune disease that causes chronic pain , should not have had me because I would be born with genetic defects? my mom should not be loved or be in a relationship because any child she has would be born with genetic defects? what is this logic. until someone can give me a real answer as to why consensual incestuous relationships are ACTUALLY BAD I'm completely in support of them. sorry. love is love
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"you aren't youthlib if you don't think children can consent!" why do you believe someone has to have the ability to consent to sex in order to be treated like a person. why do you think you have to believe children can consent in order to think they should have rights and be treated like people. why do you believe someone's humanity is based off of their ability to have sex and enjoy it
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