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obsessed with the way nora wrote jeremy. avoidant narration style paired with bone-deep self-loathing and an outward perception of him as sunshine personified. drawing a sun in the sand, smiling into his coffee, "would it kill you to fuck someone who respects you?", stealing roses from his hookup, falling asleep behind the wheel, playing with a yoyo, coming back to the hotel with bruises around his neck, smiling "slow and satisfied" at his phone, not being able to focus on his lsat books, chronic fatigue, i tried to be good, am i no good? smoking outside the banquet, kissing jabberwocky, blaming himself for noah's death, jean's shitty reputation, zane's attack, handcuffed to a family that resents him, see-through smiles, writing down every time his father would call him, collecting speeding tickets in high school. jeremy knox i want to claw open your skull and dump the contents of your brain onto the page.
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It sucks when a fandom hates on a female character for being the main love interest of a male character that is part of a fan favorite gay ship. Like in Arcane, or Trigun.
BUT — if an author disclosed that a super popular gay throuple was actually canon in many drafts, but in the end made 1/3 of the ship end up with a woman 4-4.5 years their senior that has known him since he was 14, that is mega loyal to the cult that brutalized him and was the books’s main antagonist and then her only lines amount to breaking the ribs of a kid 7 years younger than her, “old tricks” and glorifying a cult leader??? AND then also shared that her reaction to her partner’s abuse is “no harm, no foul” and still is “loyal till the end” to his abusers…
While the remaining members of the original gay throuple form a bond based on respect, healing, consent, “to be loved is to be seen” yada yada yada ???
I’m just saying, Nora shot herself on the foot with Thea.
#op on the comments said#nora tried to write a strong powerful woman but wrote a strong powerful raven instead#and i think thats kinda accurate#aftg
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I think people are taking this the wrong way. I LOVED tgr. I even loved the fanfic-esque moments. Some of them didn't feel like a result of pressure. And those that did didn't ruin my experience with the book cause I still think it's one of the best written in the entire series. It's more like... I hope Nora also allows herself to do her own thing. If that includes little love letters to the fans of the series in the form of scenes, that's fine by me as long as Nora does it in accordance to what she thinks her characters and books need.
I love we got Jerejean out of it. I love that we are getting more domestic stuff. I love that we are getting so much Jeremy lore.
I think the only thing I included in my review as a 'bad' thing (which wasn't actually bad) was that we have too much involvement of old characters. Like, Kevin, it makes sense considering his relationship with Jean. But other parts felt more like "here, cameo of your favourites!" And the fandom has just focused on those moments instead of focusing on what actually matters in this new story.
Istg people need to let these new characters and narration devices BREATHE stop comparing everything to the original through the lenses of nostalgia, or you'll never be able to see how much better of a writer and storyteller Nora has become
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A very impossible question and normally I wouldn't have voted because recency bias and whatnot BUT considering TGR pulled reactions out of me that no book of this kind ever has, I feel like I'm obligated to pick it 🫡
new book new poll let's go
NOT which one you think is objectively best. which one is your FAVORITE
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Jeremy does it all at this point
what a PERFECT one-sentence description for jeremy
"bright as a broken bulb" oh he makes me ILL
valedictorian is insane jeremy fr an academic weapon
#jeremy multipurpose tool knox#a man after my own heart#tgr spoilers#jeremy knox#the golden raven spoilers
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AND I WAS RIGHT
Jean Moreau is also a little bitch, I can't wait to see him in full action.
"Fun is for children."
"We haven't met yet." "For which I'm grateful."
"Hmm? You don't look much like a Neil."
Just think of all the great one liners we will get from this man.
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any one of these days could be jeremy's birthday btw
#jean has a type and thats Pisces#thats it#besides that theres no other common elements between jeremy and Kevin#strikers?#very good at exy?#probably long legs?#i get you jean#aftg#jeremy knox
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I can't stop thinking about Jeremy Knox. Like, it's becoming a problem.
He needs to be loved. He needs to be shown he deserves better. He needs to get out of that house and finally have control over his life. He needs to learn that he doesn't need to practice 'control' by letting assholes disrespect him. Someone tell him that he is actually just passively giving away control to them instead. That's all he's known. All he's ever had is the pretence of control.
But, please, let him snap and break down as he realizes that he's just been perpetuating a cycle because he's never really had any choice. All his choices have always come with compromises. Study to prepare for law school and then you can play exy. Have a college life, but we are going to be checking every purchase you are making and questioning you daily. You can be gay as long as you don't embarrass your family. Might as well marry some nice influential girl that would suit our tastes.
He talks of redemption, but if you've never really been given a chance, can you even call it redemption? PLEASE, I need to see him acknowledge that he has been fucked over so badly and let himself throw control out of the window. I need to see him realize that he isn't the one who killed his brother or the one to be blamed for it.
Cause do you realize how fucked it is to know that you are trapped in that dollhouse, your documents locked away somewhere where you can't find them and your only future is one where you live to uphold a family name that's not even yours? He's become the scapegoat of a fucked up family that can't process any feelings.
#jeremy knox my beloved#youve taken over my brain#let jeremy also heal nora pls#aftg#all for the game#jeremy knox#the golden raven#tgr spoilers
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Another one T_T we are being fed

Jerejean warmup number 2
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FINALLY ART OF THIS SCENE
“Tell me the phrase”
I haven’t drawn fan art in like 8 years but Jean was so insane for this I couldn’t help myself.
Thinking of doing a collection of quick sketches like this from scenes in TGR so if anyone has any requests lmk ❤️
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I think Nora's biggest crime (/j) rn is that she is indulging the fans way too much and trying to give them what they want. That's why parts of tgr sometimes felt a bit like fan fiction. Perhaps it's also her own indulgence tho but I'm still weirded out that the fandom 'pressure' had her change Jeremy's hair colour, even with the compromise of bleach lmao. Like they don't make a difference in the big picture but I would want to see what she'd write if she didn't have people's expectations on her back.
Istg people need to let these new characters and narration devices BREATHE stop comparing everything to the original through the lenses of nostalgia, or you'll never be able to see how much better of a writer and storyteller Nora has become
#we know she also didnt include more thea because of fandom backlash#aftg#all for the game#the golden raven#the sunshine court#tsc
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Istg people need to let these new characters and narration devices BREATHE stop comparing everything to the original through the lenses of nostalgia, or you'll never be able to see how much better of a writer and storyteller Nora has become
#like i get it#trust me#but good lord everything is just a comparison#aftg#all for the game#the golden raven#the sunshine court#tsc#i swear to god ive seen people talk more about the cameos of old characters than talking about the new ones#(nora may be at fault for indulging us too much)
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Being on this website is fun because you can absolutely tell when a blorbo clicks in someone's brain. You're scrolling, and suddenly out of nowhere there's like 12 posts about the same character back to back reposted by the same person, and you just know "oh. They're a permanent part of their psyche now." and honestly it's a vibe go off king
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No, but do we think Nora is setting the grounds for a Kevin spin-off? Like, how is she gonna resolve all the problems she mentioned in TGR in a third book that's not even about him?
She brought up the drinking and the fact he refuses to acknowledge his trauma and put so much emphasis on it so either 1) she will give him a half baked side arc similar to what she did in TKM and ill be sad 2) she might actually go for at least one more book 🤔
Ngl not sure how I'd feel about that, I think I'd panic too much over his lore expanding but also KEVIN POV AND KEVIN HEALING ARC pls he deserves it so much
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Rereading TSC and Jeremy's first chapter ends with:
"Laila, you ever feel like - like you are making choices you can't come back from? But even knowing everything could go completely sideways, you'd make that choice every time?"
Either Jeremy at the end of the third book will say something similar to Jean, about making the perfect choice to recruit him or it will be a wasted opportunity.
Ah Jeremy, bby you are in for a ride.
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He is so dog coded. Bby
I started reading TGR last night, I'm both scared AND excited about it☀️
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THIS ENTIRE THING. READ IT
So important to see different and realistic points of view when it comes to sexual relationships.
It also kind of shut down arguments about "imbalanced dynamics" with Jean and Jeremy's relationship
The Golden Raven has a more realistic view of sex than other books in the genre (young adult/new adult), sex isn't this life changing crime against your "True Love". It's something that people who are attracted to each other do together.
Yes, I think Jeremy has an unhealthy relationship with sex: he uses it as a replacement for drugs, he uses it to escape when he's at his lowest, even if the people he's being intimate with can't be trusted or sleeping with them jeopardises his self worth (Leo's betrayal, Faser's personality).
And sure Jean is jealous, but he is not overwhelmed by it, it doesn't change his view of Jeremy, it doesn't change how he feels for Jeremy, it's not a betrayal because Jeremy "should be" with Jean. There's no possessive, puritan creepiness.
That's why I was surprised that despite both Jeremy and Jean's internal shutting down when considering pursuing the other, Jeremy kept getting stuck on Renee, even saying something he regretted out of jealousy.
That's when I realised that it wasn't about sex: Jeremy doesn't care if they've slept together- he's jealous because they know each other, love each other even.
Renee can provide comfort and care for Jean, they have a bond. This is something Jeremy is enjoying being able to provide for Jean.
He doesn't for a second think that it's not fair to be jealous of Renee and Jean when he's still hooking up with other people because it's completely irrelevant. Jeremy doesn't love and trust these people, even if he genuinely likes them.
He's down so bad.
I'm not trying to make some holier than thou, moralistic 'love transcends sex' point. But sex isn't emotional for Jeremy, he doesn't have relationships with these men, they're a means to an end- a way to feel good when he grew up in an emotional ice box, a way to but dopamine in this brain after cocaine was taken away.
Jean is a first for Jeremy (as far as we know) he's so deeply invested in him, empathises with him with such unabashed all-consuming affection.
Depsite Jeremy having all the confidence and positive expereince that Jean lacks with sex, Jean is going to be Jeremy's first love but Jeremy isn't Jean's and for all his progressive views on sex and relationships, that snags at Jeremy, even as he wants the best for Jean.
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