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Ok so uhhhh.

Hmmm.

I’ll be honest I don’t 100% understand what I just consumed. I’m actually really sad that hesokuri wars is gone because the plot was really leading up to the 100 stories thing. It seemed like that’s when the climax was going to occur and karamatsus yokai would show up and ravage the town and collect all the dayons or something.

I also think it’s really fun how you can tell the writing team was figuring it out as they went. The first story has a completely different vibe to the last one. It’s way more comedic and light hearted, I don’t think they anticipated how much people would like it.

I wonder what ori san was planning, dayon world domination? He was clearly trying to figure out the best ways for dayons to infiltrate human society, but to what end? He was also likely using them to feed whatever haunts the village, possibly also to fulfill some type of prophecy.

I feel like I need to reread it to fully understand everything. Also I really enjoy how it’s based around jyushimatsu, who wants to protect his brothers from this evil that permeates throughout the village.

It’s also really interesting that we don’t know as much about karatsugus past as the rest of them (they all notably outright state their pasts. With the exception of jyushimatsu, who writes about it in his diary) but it’s his yokai that’s going to be summoned after they’re done collecting 100 stories.

Oh and that totoko story… I haven’t read many hesokuri wars events, but this feels like the first time they reference the original characters in an au?? (With the exception of certain aus where they start out as neets and go on an adventure) Like she straight up encountered her original! I think if it wasn’t leading up to the yokai showing up, it would be the denki mystery brothers somehow being transported into the neet versions universe.

Also the characterization of the brothers in denki is so so interesting. It really leans into traits we don’t see often in the neets. I always thought that ichimatsu was meant to be one of the smarter brothers canonically, but hajime is by far the most well read and intelligent in the group. Their characterizations also slowly change throughout once the writers start to get a grasp on the type of story they want to tell.

Like karatsugu really kind of starts off as a bumbling reporter version of karamatsu, but instead of saying cringey stuff he’s blurting out article ideas. They later ditch that in favor of making him more observant and earnest. They slowly start to take the characters more seriously and understand how to infuse humor into their dialogue while still maintaining that unsettling vibe.

Man it’s such a shame we’ll never get to know the ending. I really really wish we could get something in season 4 at least referencing it now that hesokuri wars is gone, but unfortunately it doesn’t seem likely.

every day i tell myself it's time to delve into denki mystery. it's time to learn about the fandoms most popular au. it's time to finally see what the hype is about... and every day i fail. but today. today is the day i finally do it. i'm going to read all the info about it from start to finish and finally understand what the hell everyone is talking about

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every day i tell myself it's time to delve into denki mystery. it's time to learn about the fandoms most popular au. it's time to finally see what the hype is about... and every day i fail. but today. today is the day i finally do it. i'm going to read all the info about it from start to finish and finally understand what the hell everyone is talking about

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Misconception about Karamatsu

ok so i plan to make a more in depth analysis about karamatsu's relationship with his brothers individually and as a group, but first i have to get something out of the way

i think what some people need to understand about karamatsu is that, yes, he's a kind person for being able to tolerate all the crap his brothers put him through, but thats also sometimes just how siblings are.

like, if you're an only child or have a really friendly relationship with your sibling, you might not understand. but as someone who has a very totty-esque younger sibling, i totally understand why karamatsu is able to let it slide.

(way...way too many examples to count...)

because when my younger sibling insults me or steals my food or uses my haircare or ruins my stuff, for the most part, i don't care. or i guess i can't care. why? because that's just how they are. that's just how it is! if i made a fit every single time something like that happened, i would go half crazy (just look at choromatsu)

i cannot stress to you guys enough that the whole experience of being an older sibling is literally just putting up with various bs that your younger siblings do. you have to let it slide because you're older and supposedly more mature. like, i'm not a saint, i just let it slide because i don't have a choice! that's just how my younger sibling is, and there's honestly really nothing i can do about that.

honestly, if anything, rather than kind i think it displays that karamatsu is mature and takes his position as second oldest seriously. i'm petty, so honestly i'll still argue and insult them back when they piss me off. but karamatsu? kara's as cool as a cucumber. just lets out a mmmm~~? and calls it a day

i'll go more in depth about this on a later day, but this is also why kara is harsher on osomatsu when he's being awful. it's because kara takes his role as an older brother seriously and has higher standards for osomatsu because that's his only older brother.

so yeah this isn't exactly an analytical post, but i feel like i always see people citing the fact that karamatsu puts up with todo and ichi's awfulness towards him as evidence that he's this kind, saint-like angel. but i feel like that's a mischaracterization that stems from a lack of understanding about sibling relationships.

while i do think kara is kind, this more so feels like a heightened sense of responsibility as an older sibling than anything. he's kind of just used to being the bigger person and doesn't care that much anymore (i still think he may care a little, but he's too exclusivematsu to express it). and even then, i don't think he's always consciously trying to be mature about it, sometimes he just feels like it'll be not worth the trouble to complain (pizza skit).

i still think it's a good trait in and of itself, because it's honestly soooo hard to let things slide at times for me, but ultimately...it's kind of just part of being an older sibling.

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And so it begins…

With my last hyper fixation, I crocheted around 6 dolls. 3 of which were of the same character in different sizes and art styles. Now, I have a new hyper fixation character: Karamatsu

I put extra care into making him dumb-looking and goofy. He was also wayyyy easier to crochet than my usual anime characters

I honestly don’t know whether I want to crochet all of the sextuplets as a set orrrr a bunch of karamatsus

(Also for my sanity let’s PLEASE ignore the fact that his pants are black instead of blue, I didn’t have the right jean-blue color)

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i'm working on something... he's coming... be ready

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Ranking ososan characters based on how realistic they are

This is mostly based on my idea of how close these characters are to being real people. You'll never bump into a dayon, but you most certainly can meet a choromatsu irl.

wow the image quality is garbage

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Guys, I think karamatsu looking this fugly for so long is a form of cosmic karma

We as karamatsu stans have had it way too good for way too long. We get the best fan service, we get the ikemen va (yuichi nakamura also voices gojo), we get a movie where karamatsu is essentially the mc, we get way less painful/cringey karamatsu moments, and the karamatsu torture has been reduced significantly since season 1.

This is the punishment for our hubris, for our greed. He looks way better in merch and official art now… but at what cost?

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I can't hold it in any longer... think season 1 Karamatsu's interpretation of Ichimatsu is hysterical

ok so people like to criticize karamatsu for this, because it kinda shows that he has a bit of a shallow understanding of his brothers buuuuut...

i really love season 1 karamatsu's interpretation of ichimatsu

kara's ichimatsu impression is just him acting like a cat and making cat puns. it would make a lot of sense for him to act rude or hostile because that's how ichi acts towards him, but nope, to him, ichi is just a very cat-like, mellow guy.

this also fully explains why he is able to tolerate everything ichi throws at him. have you ever met someone who has an awful cat? have you ever heard how they talk about their cat?

"yeah so snuggles mcgee tore up my couch, gave me this nasty scar, pissed all over my bed, bites me when she's out of food, and never really pays attention to me or lets me pet her... but no omg we love each other to death. sometimes, she sleeps next to me and i really feel the connection. i think the bites are how she shows love. yeah she will scratch you though, so don't go near her or look her in the eyes"

sound familiar?? i honestly think this is how karamatsu views ichimatsu. he kinda just thinks of him as a grumpy kitty cat, and i say this in full seriousness because look at how ichimatsu sleeps in the movie

and then look at how karamatsu imagines him sleeping in the movie (i assume this part at least is his imagination simply because ichimatsu has never been shown to sleep like this ever and this is also NOT how he fell asleep or woke up)

and the thing is, i also don't think that (and i say this with all the love in my heart) karamatsu pays enough attention or is smart enough to fully understand ichimatsu's motives for his aggression towards him (especially bc i don't even think ichimatsu himself truly understands why karamatsu makes him so mad). i think kara would need a third party to explain it to him or at the very least prompt him to truly think about it.

it's way easier for karamatsu to imagine him as this cute little kitty cat because it allows him to write off everything ichimatsu does as just him acting out. he can't help it, that's just the way cats are! it also allows him to believe that underneath all that hostility, ichimatsu truly does love him.

(and he does! ichimatsu loves karamatsu deep down, but it's not as straight forward as karamatsu believes it to be)

because even if your cat leaves your stuff broken

physically harms you

gets you in trouble

ignores you

at the end of the day, your cat will always return to your side

and sometimes, if you're lucky, they may even let you pet them without being scratched!

the thing is though, i don't think this is how he views ichimatsu currently. i think karamatsu has really changed over the seasons and now his view of ichimatsu is more grounded. but thats a post for another day lol

tl;dr: iromatsu is peak

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everyone thank you so much for reading! here is part 2, even longer than this one lol.

man… i think it’s so important that karamatsu is the center of the osomatsu san movie. I honestly don’t think it could’ve been anyone else but him. Bc only karamatsu would hold onto a fight that happened over 10 years ago. Like yes, his regret is about the letter, but it’s more so about his failure to bring his brothers together and have an actual conversation. It’s about his helplessness and inability to communicate his frustration properly. And while it’s ALL their regrets that brought them to that world. Karamatsu has the best recollection of that time because he’s been ruminating over it for years.

...which, of course, is something he told no one about. if anything, he initially tried to get them to think positively about their high school days.

but after they drink some more, he's the first one to start talking about their past seriously

also, if you go back and watch this scene, he's the only one whose face we don't see while jyushi is teasing them with their old pics. everyone else starts laughing at his antics, except karamatsu. in fact, he actually has this reeeeaaaaalllly subtle moment where he hunches forward slightly. like he visibly tenses up a bit (i wish i knew how to make gifs man).

with karamatsu the writers like to take a very “show don’t tell” approach. Yes there are episodes where he narrates (overseas vacation) and that could be considered his inner monologue, but for the most part we kiiinda don’t really know what he’s thinking. especially when he's being insulted. like he straight up either doesn't respond or he just goes "mmmm~~?"

(and as we know, he gets insulted a lot)

the thing is, this is by design. Because not only do we have a direct quote from his voice actor (yuichi nakamura) about it.

we also literally have an entire skit criticizing him for it.

but i think that this tendency to hold things in directly stems from that fight on the roof. The one time he really tried to step out of his comfort zone and approach his brothers about something earnestly, he started the worst fight they’ve ever had.

(also side note, he actually only starts opening up about it after he takes a couple sips from the beer osomatsu got for them)

Now I’m not going to argue with the director over whether karamatsu is a 100% bonafide kind good hearted person or not (though i should note that this was from 2016 and his characterization has changed a lot since then). but i think it's important to note that the rest of them lowkey forgot about that fight while karamatsu consciously held it in because he didn't want to remind them of it and potentially start another fight.

when they discuss their regrets, the rest of the bros are more-so regretful over how they acted as teens. they discuss how their teenage "weirdness" stemmed from their dislike of being sextuplets. this dislike further manifested as a dislike for each other. but karamatsu's regret was over his failure to bring them together. i do appreciate that this strong piece of characterization was based around the love he has for his brothers.

this is getting wayyy too long, but i have more to say (especially about how passive karamatsu is... so many thoughts) so i might make a part 2. stay tuned (maybe lol)

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wow oh my gosh i didn't expect so many people to see that last post, thank you so so much!! and i loved reading everyone's thoughts too, thank you guys so much for taking the time to read my "analysis" (yaps) and taking the time to leave your own responses!!

here's part 2:

alright so after covering the past exenstively, lets go back to the present, where karamatsu hides his true feelings about things to avoid creating or being involved in conflict (and sometimes to avoid doing something that's inconvenient, like helping choromatsu lmao). karamatsu is so funny to me because unlike the others, he's so passive about everything. i have so many examples of this:

he always waits for girls to hit on him, he just poses and waits for the ladies to flock to him lmao. such a diva

he usually isn't the one to ever begin a conversation with the bros as a group, he'll mostly jump in once the conversation is happening

if he does strike up a conversation, it's usually one on one (and it's usually either with choromatsu, osomatsu, and occasionally jyushimatsu, who are the bros he has the least amount of conflict with)

he mostly doesn't start fights, he'll almost always get wrapped into them

ofc, he almost never fights back when it comes to being insulted by any of his brothers

he usually only insults osomatsu (or indirectly choromatsu, but that feels more like teasing than anything)

that being said, he does have his moments of proactiveness. i believe it's really in those moments when you get a sense of who he really is and you get a peek into his true feelings

so these were the ones i knew off the top of my head, but most of these scenes (save for pizza) are him trying to be a good older brother. either that, or trying to take control of the situation for his brother's sake.

(here is where i got a lot of the screenshots above from btw)

but also don't get me wrong, he does have his moments of proactive awfulness. sometimes accidental, sometimes not.

see, in my eyes, his passivity is a form of self preservation. i think on a subconscious level, he doesn't really take an active role in his own life (and his brother's) because the last time he asserted himself and truly tried to take control, he ended up causing his brothers to fight.

but to go even deeper, on an emotional level, he does it to avoid the feelings of rejection and failure he experienced after the fight. it's a way to protect himself from the possibility that he'll end up hurt again (and secondarily, the possibility that he'll make things worse for his brothers again).

this is also why i think he doesn't really listen to people. it's the same principle. karamatsu would rather live in his own bubble of self-aggrandizing delusion than truly face himself and others. he lives in this insulated echo chamber of his own thoughts and feelings, and since karamatsu is a dummy, this makes him ultimately blind to his own shortcomings. this also prevents him from having genuine and vulnerable relationships with his brothers. not only does he refuse to tell them how he really feels, he also refuses to truly listen to them and take their words to heart (as hurtful as they may be). but you know who he does listen to? you know who he does actually tell his true feelings to? you guessed it:

(and honestly? you know who else too? maybe not as deep as choukei but)

in full transparency, this is me being very lazy. but i wrote about this a while back when discussing the amazing doujin: Karamatsu's Brand New World.

(which I highly recommend everyone should read please please please).

karamatsu is a passionate, exclusive, caring, selfish, self-aggrandizing, delusional, stupid, kind, sensitive, cowardly, selfless, petty, lazy, cringey, blunt, lovable guy

he's ultimately a very flawed character and i can truly understand his popularity both here and in japan. but i think a lot of people interpret him as this perfect, selfless guy. no no, he sucks. they all do. and he's really stupid, he may be the dumbest out of the 6, though not by much. but all of his flaws and strong points make him a such great character. i hope i did him justice.

i'm really really excited for the fourth season, i hope we get more karamatsu exploration this season as well! if we don't, then i'll take every crumb i can get and talk endlessly about it anyways.

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man… i think it’s so important that karamatsu is the center of the osomatsu san movie. I honestly don’t think it could’ve been anyone else but him. Bc only karamatsu would hold onto a fight that happened over 10 years ago. Like yes, his regret is about the letter, but it’s more so about his failure to bring his brothers together and have an actual conversation. It’s about his helplessness and inability to communicate his frustration properly. And while it’s ALL their regrets that brought them to that world. Karamatsu has the best recollection of that time because he’s been ruminating over it for years.

...which, of course, is something he told no one about. if anything, he initially tried to get them to think positively about their high school days.

but after they drink some more, he's the first one to start talking about their past seriously

also, if you go back and watch this scene, he's the only one whose face we don't see while jyushi is teasing them with their old pics. everyone else starts laughing at his antics, except karamatsu. in fact, he actually has this reeeeaaaaalllly subtle moment where he hunches forward slightly. like he visibly tenses up a bit (i wish i knew how to make gifs man).

with karamatsu the writers like to take a very “show don’t tell” approach. Yes there are episodes where he narrates (overseas vacation) and that could be considered his inner monologue, but for the most part we kiiinda don’t really know what he’s thinking. especially when he's being insulted. like he straight up either doesn't respond or he just goes "mmmm~~?"

(and as we know, he gets insulted a lot)

the thing is, this is by design. Because not only do we have a direct quote from his voice actor (yuichi nakamura) about it.

we also literally have an entire skit criticizing him for it.

but i think that this tendency to hold things in directly stems from that fight on the roof. The one time he really tried to step out of his comfort zone and approach his brothers about something earnestly, he started the worst fight they’ve ever had.

(also side note, he actually only starts opening up about it after he takes a couple sips from the beer osomatsu got for them)

Now I’m not going to argue with the director over whether karamatsu is a 100% bonafide kind good hearted person or not (though i should note that this was from 2016 and his characterization has changed a lot since then). but i think it's important to note that the rest of them lowkey forgot about that fight while karamatsu consciously held it in because he didn't want to remind them of it and potentially start another fight.

when they discuss their regrets, the rest of the bros are more-so regretful over how they acted as teens. they discuss how their teenage "weirdness" stemmed from their dislike of being sextuplets. this dislike further manifested as a dislike for each other. but karamatsu's regret was over his failure to bring them together. i do appreciate that this strong piece of characterization was based around the love he has for his brothers.

this is getting wayyy too long, but i have more to say (especially about how passive karamatsu is... so many thoughts) so i might make a part 2. stay tuned (maybe lol)

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wait guys is it bad tumblr etiquette to not reblog stuff? i never retweeted stuff on twitter, i just liked posts. but i'm still lowkey pretty new here and i honestly just wanted this acc to be like my twitter where it's just my thoughts on things

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guys i value intellectual honesty and integrity so i must confess that i've noticed a lot of jp accounts on twitter saying that ichimatsu is dropping a coin (or multiple) and they're bouncing towards karamatsu.

so i mayyy be wrong, but honestly it looks different every time i see it. i think my interpretation is more accurate to ichimatsu's character, that being said, the coin potentially bouncing towards karamatsu could mean something culturally that i'm not aware of. let me know what you guys think!!

lmao i initially thought ichimatsu was dropping his own coin, but after further inspection, it seems like he's actually stealing karamatsu's coin and sabotaging his chances for romance in the new year... gotta love the matsunos

here's the pic, it seems like iyami is gonna upload a new pic of them on the 16th of every month leading up to the release of the 4th season!

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guys does anyone have any good karamatsu-centric fic recs ? i've read most of the big ones lol

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lmao i initially thought ichimatsu was dropping his own coin, but after further inspection, it seems like he's actually stealing karamatsu's coin and sabotaging his chances for romance in the new year... gotta love the matsunos

here's the pic, it seems like iyami is gonna upload a new pic of them on the 16th of every month leading up to the release of the 4th season!

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i'm also reading osomatsu-kun and my God... these kids SUCK

they're so evil, no wonder the sextuplets came out so horrible in osomatsu-san. it all finally makes sense lmao. like, it's honestly a miracle that chibita came out to be a somewhat well adjusted adult bc he's also SUCH a brat.

now i understand why akatsuka got away with inflicting so much violence against these kids, it's bc 80% of the time they deserve it

like they're so awful towards chibita and you start to feel bad for him... until chibita also becomes a menace later

i used to think the comedic aspect of osomatsu san was the fact that they took these beloved characters and turned them into total d-bags. the reality is that they've always been horrible little pricks, now they're just horrible pricks to fit the 21st century

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k so one episode into osomatsu-kun and i already have questions

they HAVE separate futons as kids so why do they sleep together in the same futon like sardines as adults??

my theory is that one day they did something so awful that their parents forced them to sleep in the same futon as punishment and sold all the other ones