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The Daycare Attendant and Their Dialogue
A little ramble on some of the things I've noticed about their ways of speaking. This post ended up being predominantly about how they refer to one another. Most of this is speculation mixed in with my own views on them and their relationship, without discarding some other possible alternatives (for instance, although I do view them as two AIs that heavily rely on each other to function properly, I do not cast aside the interpretation that they are the same person).
(note: although I have played SB and Ruin, I did not play HW2 myself. All I know about that game has been through let's plays).
Sun is, obviously, the chattier of the two. Not only are his sentences longer, he speaks more of them in a row than Moon does - in fact, we only see Moon going on and on in Ruin (which we will discuss later).
Both of them use a lot of repetitions when speaking. From their infamous "clean up, clean up" line, to Sun's panicked "you like glitter glue? I have glitter glue!" and "light's on! Light's on! Keep the generators on!", to Moon's "hidey hide, hide away" and "bad children must be punished. Bad children must be found", "knock knock", etc. One of the first things Eclipse says is also a repetition ("warning, warning"). They appear to occasionally rhyme their words too, or at the very least use similar sounds in their sentences. This is a robot that works with young children, so it's not surprising.
On that same vein, their main insult to misbehaving children (and employees... or at least Cassie's dad) is also a repetition: "naughty, naughty" (which turns into "naughty boy" for Gregory), "rulebreaker, rulebreaker", and "bad kid, bad kid". In fact, it appears they repeat words more often when they're mad/stressed (Sun's no no nos, Moon freaking out in Ruin). Taking into account they get mad pretty easily when things don't go their way, it's not surprising we hear it so often, but it's neat.
Although both of them speak in an almost song like manner, with Sun's run on sentences flowing well between one another, Moon is the one where this is more evident due to how much shorter his lines are.
Moon is also the one who speaks in a more childish manner. Not only are his phrases shorter, he doesn't articulate them as much as Sun does, and seems to prefer shorter words and sounds, especially giggles. This makes Sun appear more developed. Key word being appear.
Sun tends to speak as if he's entertaining a crowd, doing his best to keep the attention on himself while trying to keep it fun. This is most evident in his level explanation parts in HW2, but it's also clear in SB. In Ruin, this is absent for... obvious reasons.
Both of them are somehow direct in their way of giving orders/saying what they want to do. When they can't be direct, they find workaround truths in order to conceal what they truly want to say, while keeping the main order clear (such as Sun saying the player will hurt their eyes if they work in the dark and ordering them to keep the lights on, rather than saying Moon will kill them so keep that room bright. Direct, but nicer).
Not at all important to FNAF speech lore but I think it's funny: Sun says the infamous Vanny line during the daycare intro section. "Are you having fun yet? (Are ya, are ya?)". 0.5 seconds after Gregory just stands there, which coincidentally is what Vanny does 0.5 seconds after Gregory gets into a vent (numbers exaggerated). I don't know. I just think it's funny. Replaying the daycare section after hearing Vanny yapping that line non stop gave me flashbacks.
The way they refer to each other and the pronouns they use are an entire thing, so let me separate it in two parts.
So that this post doesn't become scrolling hell on the tags, I'll keep it below the read more line:
Sun
Sun is the one who refers to himself the most. He frequently uses "I" or "me" when talking about himself, and does it way more often than Moon. Examples of this are "I have glitter glue!", "I'm stuck in a nap", "it really speaks to me", "I feel dumber just looking at it" - you get the point by now. The reason I'm going hard on this point is to contrast his way of speaking to Moon's.
When it comes to him referring to Moon, we only ever hear it twice. In HW2 he says "He'll wake up if the lights go out!". In Ruin, he says "Not me, the other me!". Besides those two voice lines, he merely alludes to Moon without ever mentioning him by name or by pronouns (such as when he says he'll turn the lights off himself, implying he'll let Moon deal with you, or when he says you can't work in the dark and instead of saying the real reason as to why, he cuts himself and goes "You'll- hurt your eyes if you work in the dark").
This is interesting for two reasons: one, we only see him directly mention his counterpart when he's in a ruined state (the HW2 voice line comes from the mask off section, when they're broken down. At least I think so); two, he simultaneously views Moon as separate from himself ("he'll wake up") and as a part of himself/another side of himself ("the other me"). You can take that as them really being the same "person", or as a reflection of their complicated body sharing situation. Take it as you will.
As far as referring to himself and Moon at the same time, he only does it in Ruin when he states "We need to be whole".
Moon
The way Moon structures his sentences means that he seldomly actually refers to himself directly. For instance, he doesn't say "I will find you" or "I will punish you", putting himself as the subject of the sentence. Instead, he puts others as the subject, wording it as "Bad children must be found" and "Bad children must be punished". This is consistent across all of his voice lines except one... Well, technically two.
To get it out of the way: there's a deleted voice line where he says "I'm putting you in time out", a line he and Sun share and which worked the same way the clean up one does - them saying the same thing, a push towards them being the same person ordeal.
The only in-game time he refers to himself directly is in Ruin. This line is also the only time he refers to both himself and Sun as a duo. This line is also the longest line of dialogue Moon has.
"(groaning noises) Naughty! Naughty! Make it stop! The light makes us hurt! Grind Grind! Grinding gears inside my head! We can't move. Error! Error!"
This line, much like Sun's, is interesting for various reasons. Even though Sun is no longer with him (being stuck in the VR world and separate from Moon, shown by how Moon can't move because the lights are on but his body can't shift into Sun, so he's completely stuck), he first refers to himself as a "us" - adding Sun into the mix. Then he refers to himself alone, "my head" instead of "ours", before going right back to a plural.
We can assume one of three things here: one, Moon refers to himself as a we more often, adding Sun into the mix, a complete opposite of his counterpart who typically speaks in singulars; or two, Sun is not as absent as he appears and in that moment he is in fact with Moon, just stuck on the passenger sit, hurting alongside him; or three, this is merely an effect of this being in the Ruin DLC where the whole point of the daycare section is to fuse Sun and Moon into the Eclipse, so the writers decided to bring the point home further. If you have more options, feel free to add them.
Side note: This voiceline also shows Moon's speaking patterns pretty well. Putting "the light" as the subject instead of "we/I", the rhyming, the repetition, the clipped sentences compared to Sun's endless ones, the noises, the scratchiness, the vague childlike mannerism... All ending with "we can't move", way more straight to the point, said right before he freezes up, which deviates from the "other subject first then me" rule due to the pain tearing through him at the moment.
Moon does not call Sun "the other me" or anything similar in any of the games. He never refers to Sun as if he too was Sun. However, we can assume his view on their situation probably mirrors Sun's - being in the same body and all -, so take it as you will.
And as for Moon referring to Sun as a separate individual... He does not refer to him as a "he". Instead, he actually mentions his counterpart by name, saying "No more Sun". Meaning he's the only one of the the two that has canonically used his other side's name. I think it's interesting how the least chatty one is the one actually calling the other by name and not the other way around. And yes, you can say it's a way of speaking and he's referring to the concept of the sun rather than saying his name, but taking into consideration Sun never utters the word moon, I'd say it's still quite a big thing.
In my headcanon land, due to the happenings at the Pizzaplex, Sun is probably too embarrassed and mortified to even mention Moon. Moon, on the other hand, has no reason to have such troubles besides hating Sun for (in his perspective) keeping him locked in a prison of light. So for me, it makes sense we never see Sun saying Moon's name, and it makes it more impactful when he actually acknowledges Moon as the other me rather than a he.
Eclipse
I lied there's three parts.
Eclipse has very few voice lines. The only one that matters here is "We need to clean this place up before we can open in the morning." This is pretty straight to the point: Eclipse, unlike Sun and Moon, doesn't use an "I". They immediately speak in the plural. They do not view themselves as just Eclipse, but rather as both Sun and Moon combined, at the same time.
As for the DCA being two AIs or one... in Ruin, Sun thanks Cassie after Eclipse is activated. It's left ambiguous. You can say Sun speaking afterwards proves they're not one and the same, "with the Sun and Moon AIs still running separately somehow", or you can assume Eclipse existing doesn't mean Sun and Moon can't keep doing their thing under safe mode, albeit in a less chaotic manner, allowing Sun's voice to come through but not making him any less Moon - he is Moon, he is Sun, and they are complicated yet very simple.
I believe in whichever version is more convenient at any given time, with a preference for "two codependent AIs" given what the games show us. Although, going by everything I collected here, the only theory I believe to just not be supported by canon at all is the one with Eclipse as a separate thing all together. Eclipse refers to themselves as a "we', not an "I". Eclipse activates when you make Sun and Moon "whole". It canonically makes no sense for Eclipse to be a third thing. (Please remember this is a post about what's in the games, the canon of FNAF. AUs and fandom or whatever, you do you).
That's it. Hope you enjoyed my rambling. Uh artblog unpaid promotion @tagidearte thank you for making it this far.
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Redrew some art I made back a few months ago
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The basic rendering without the background. (By basic rendering I just mean blending the lineart, colors, and shading together in one layer. This also includes adding a colored overlay)
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Silly doodle of Chibi me
(Also, better late than never! Happy Halloween! Hope everyone has/had a good Halloween 馃檭)
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Here I am with another fandom 101 lesson: dead doves
No, dead dove does NOT mean "graphically detailed torture fanfiction" it just get used for those kind of things the most. Dead Dove literally just means "read the label/tags, because they are telling the truth." that's why it's called "dead dove" It was from a scene where a paper bag had "dead dove" written on it, and inside was, you guessed it, a dead dove. What you read is what you get. That is dead dove, not only darkfic stuff. Something could have "dead dove" and "this is a really soft fluffy story!" and it would in fact be a "dead dove" if the fic was fluffy and soft. Because what you read is what you get. Honestly it's a little annoying that darkfic and horror just gets called dead dove now by some, that's not what it means.
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Hey
If you ship character x characters your a wonderful human
If you ship oc x character your a wonderful human
If you ship character x reader your a wonderful human
If you don鈥檛 ship anyone and prefer to see everyone as family your a wonderful human.
Just a little positivity for everyone who needs it. We are all human, we need to be kind no matter what
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YOU KNOW WHAT? FUCK IT
I dont care anymore, I'm tired of the negativity. I'm writing what I like about all the characters
I love how strong Sun is. He's "the stupid one" the "weak one" but yet he's been through the most and is the only one who's stayed standing the entire time. He killed Bloodmoon. He's killed a FUCKING WITHERSTORM. He's created a blast of magic so powerful that the computer said it was impossible. Hes created powerful blasts of magic more than once, mind you, considering he made one so big he obliterated Moon's magic pool.
I'm so proud of him for telling Moon he doesn't forgive him. Not only was it brave to stand up to someone who's hit and hurt him, but it was honestly the right thing to do. Moon isn't going to gain anything from being forgiven. He's only going to grow from being taken accountable and having to move past it.
Sun is an incredibly strong and brave individual. He has moments of weakness, yes, and he's an anxious mess, but he isn't meant to be perfect. For everything he's been through, he's very strong. And he's smarter than he gives himself credit for.
I love how much Nexus wanted to make his brother happy when he was created. How he immediately found a connection with Sun, that was so sweet. And I love how sweet he was with Earth. How whenever he made a mistake, he did his best to make up for it. Yes, everything has gone down hill since then, but that doesn't change the fact that Nexus was so much kinder than Moon was. It was really nice to see Nexus so supportive. Again, he wasn't perfect, and sometimes he'd join in with Solar on bullying Sun, but most of the time when he did it was friendly. He did try to keep Sun in the loop with Eclipse. It was better than what Moon used to do.
And its honestly kind of sweet (in a twisted way) in how much he wanted to bring Solar back. How much he missed him. Sure, at the end it may have become more of a proving himself thing or whatever, but at first it was clear it was him just missing him. They were so close, and it was adorable.
I love Solar's sarcasm. I love his humor and his dryness. Its entertaining. Sometimes I wish they would've dived into his complex relationship with Nexus and how he feels with Moon's, but I get them not wanting to. I love Solar, he also wasn't perfect, but thats what makes a good character.
I love Earth's kindness. I love how soft she is a lot of the time and her compassion. But I also love how she can chew someone out if needed. I love how sweet she is to Monty. I love how much she loves her siblings and friends. I love having an unapologetically feminine woman character! I love that she loves dresses and pink and barbies! It's nice and honestly refreshing. I wish people would appreciate her more. Also im a lesbian and I love tall women so there's that <3
I- uh- okay I honestly don't have much to say about Lunar because I genuinely just don't think about him and have mostly forgotten what he's like. I do love his mix between being an adult but also being childish. How he can be serious sometimes but also be energetic. Its really interesting to see. Also his powers and stuff are cool. I honestly just never got interested in LAES, so-
I fucking LOVE Jack and dazzle, oh my god. They're so cute together!! Cute little kids, augh. <3<3 God they're adorable. Small beasties
I love the complexity of Ruin. I love the way were never really sure whos side he's on. We never relaly know if he's being genuine or acting. It's infuriating, but also really interesting!!
I love dark sun. I just love the proof that Sun's can be smart. That they don't need a moon. Moon's? They can barely live without a Sun. Sun's? They don't need Moon's. They're independent. That's cool. Im really curious about the arc between dark sun and nexus!!!
Bloodmoon. Thats all I have to say <3
Wooh- okay, Moon. I know I hate on him a lot, but I genuinely do love his sarcasm. As someone who grew up in a house where that was prevalent, its nice. I love his humor and how stupid he can be sometimes (like when he asked Solar to repair Molten just because he's a Fucking mechanic) i don't like him, he's made way too many mistakes for my taste, but I do appreciate him. I like when he's on screen defiently. His awkwardness and inability to talk to people is funny since he's good at literally everything else. Also, the aroace rep is nice!!! And his relationship between him and Monty is sweet. They're fun together!
Let's have more positivity in the fandom, please!! The characters and show is so cool, and there's so many amazing aus and fanfics! People can ship or not! It doesn't matter, can't we all have fun?? Some people can hate characters, others can love them, that's okay!! They're not real, their actions don't mean shit. People can like ruin because he's an interesting character, even if he's done horrid things. People can also ship whatever they want. They want to ship nexus and solar in their own little au because they thing their dynamic is neat? They can do that! They want to ship Eclipse and Nexus and see Eclipse heal from his trauma of Moon's? Good for them! Its not hurting anyone. And if you don't like it? Block them! Block the tag! Its none of your business
The people in this fandom are wonderful if we all gave each other a chance. We have some really creative minds here. Its also very diverse, with do many different aus and fics and ideas. Don't harass people for just trying to enjoy what they enjoy, please?
Can everyone try to make a promise to me that well be nice? We don't all have to be friends. Hell, we don't even have to be friendly, but please, if you don't have something nice to say about someone's ship or art, don't say it at all. Dont say how much you hate a character on a post where someone's saying how much they like it, or vice versa. Respect peoples boundaries, please. Let people enjoy themselves.
Say creative guys. Please. Stay kind. Keep enjoying yourselves. Let's try to be a little more posostive, if not for me then for Davis. For Reed. For Kat. For everyone who work on the the sb shows were all interested in.
For your friends in the fandom. For yourself. Don't cause everyone more stress than is needed. Just move on <3
(Sorry for any bad grammar, this is long and I'm too tired to look over it and find any misspellings or autocorrect mishaps. So if anything doesn't make sense, then that's probaly way)
-Supernova (my new anon name)
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Many here should learn a little from the Bloodmoon fans.
If you're going to love a character, love them with all their crimes, don't become their advocates by trying to conveniently omit what you don't like or ignoring their bad deeds at your convenience.
Moon is a bitter man with anger issues who has murdered people.
Monty is a jerk who has also murdered people.
Eclipse is a jerk with a God complex who has also killed people.
Nexus is a rebellious teenager who thinks he's Light Yagami.
Bloodmoon is literally an indiscriminate serial killer.
Ruin is the worst killer in the history of the shows.
If you REALLY like the characters, accept them with all their sins. Don't be weak.
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A redraw I did recently
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Some paper drawings cause why not馃し (Not super recent, but from this year)
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Fun fact: I鈥檓 autistic I鈥檓 gonna do a thing inspired by another person
Reblog if your blog is safe for autistic people or is ran by an autistic person!
oh and
Reblog if you stand against Autism Speaks!
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Don't kill yourself, please.
If you鈥檙e suffering from depression and are looking for a sign to not go through with ending your life, this is it. This is the sign. We care.
If you see this on your dash, reblog it. You could save a life.
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yeah i'm so sick of some of this fandom feeling so entitled to what everyone else is doing. guys you need to understand that not everything revolves around you and what you enjoy. Just because you're uncomfortable doesn't mean everyone has to stop dead and leave.
If you enter a conversation about something you're uncomfortable with, you have no right to shut them down. Go find somewhere else to have your own conversation instead of breaking up someone elses.
If you're talking to someone and they mention something that you're uncomfortable with, it is ON YOU to tell them POLITELY. People cannot read your mind, nor will they check every blog you own and every backlog of text you post before interacting with you, nor are they trying to make you uncomfortable. Stewing in your discomfort or being rude because of an honest mistake is on you, not them.
Tumblr, AO3, and public discord servers are just that, PUBLIC! Anyone can join the conversation, and everyone is allowed to have fun here. You cannot gatekeep or push people away because they do something you dislike or are uncomfortable with. In a public area it is on you to curate what you see and do. People are allowed to post tsams in the tsams tags, people are allowed to post character art in the character tags, people are allowed to make smut on the fanfic sites, people are allowed to have fun. If you want a perfectly fluffy place with only what you enjoy, you need to make your own private discord or your own hosting site. Hell, you can make your own special tag if you want, you have that option.
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