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dpxdc: we all go on about how the Ultimate Enemy means that Phantom could kill all of Earth's Heroes because Plasmius Phantom must have succeeded in doing so in his timeline. But what if it was less a matter of raw power, and more that he stole Batman's contingency plans.

Danny watching the Justice League on the news: You really managed to defeat them all? Dan Masters, scoffing: Batman has plans for how to take each and everyone of them out. When you know your enemies every weakness and they know nothing of yours, it's not that hard.

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dpxdc: we all go on about how the Ultimate Enemy means that Phantom could kill all of Earth's Heroes because Plasmius Phantom must have succeeded in doing so in his timeline. But what if it was less a matter of raw power, and more that he stole Batman's contingency plans.

Danny watching the Justice League on the news: You really managed to defeat them all? Dan Masters, scoffing: Batman has plans for how to take each and everyone of them out. When you know your enemies every weakness and they know nothing of yours, it's not that hard.

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I don't like Obsessions. I don't like the way they are used to 'dehumanize' ghosts, depersonalize them. But I was thinking what's the human equivalent of a fundamental species wide drive to do particular actions and, well, you could say all humans are Obsessed with eating food, with drinking water, with all those other things we need to do or suffer the consequence that is painfully dying. And then I thought well, why do ghosts need an Obsession, what function does it fulfil, if it's 'food' is there anything else they could 'eat'.

So. A combined Ghost Obsession and Ghost Hunger AU.

A ghost fulfilling their Obsession generates ectoplasm. And ghosts need ectoplasm to live. But this doesn't mean a ghost has to fulfill their Obsession, it just means that a ghost who isn't following their Obsession needs to consume Ectoplasm instead.

How much this influence ghosts depends on questions like:

Do they need to eat ectoplasm in the Ghost Zone or does it have a background field of ectoplasm that supports their existence?

Do humans generate an emotional energy that can be converted into ectoplasm?

How much ectoplasm does a ghost need to support itself? Can they store up ectoplasm or do they need to feed regularly? Does this vary according to their use of powers?

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dpxdc: we all go on about how the Ultimate Enemy means that Phantom could kill all of Earth's Heroes because Plasmius Phantom must have succeeded in doing so in his timeline. But what if it was less a matter of raw power, and more that he stole Batman's contingency plans.

Danny watching the Justice League on the news: You really managed to defeat them all? Dan Masters, scoffing: Batman has plans for how to take each and everyone of them out. When you know your enemies every weakness and they know nothing of yours, it's not that hard.

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dpxdc: we all go on about how the Ultimate Enemy means that Phantom could kill all of Earth's Heroes because Plasmius Phantom must have succeeded in doing so in his timeline. But what if it was less a matter of raw power, and more that he stole Batman's contingency plans.

Danny watching the Justice League on the news: You really managed to defeat them all? Dan Masters, scoffing: Batman has plans for how to take each and everyone of them out. When you know your enemies every weakness and they know nothing of yours, it's not that hard.

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Honestly? The funniest take might be that Danny genuinely doesn't get involved.

Phantom protects humans from ghosts and sometimes ghosts from humans. But he draws the line at protecting humans from humans. They're adults. They can figure this out. He'll step in if someone is going to get vivisected.

Otherwise he has homework and popcorn.

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The GIW, trying to find a way into the Ghost Zone, bust open a doorway to Musutafu instead. And they don't think very highly of the "humans" that live there.

Danny shouldn't get involved. Techniquely, the GIW are comprised of humans. This isn't a ghost problem. This isn't his problem. It's not his fault if the GIW want to wage war in an alternate universe.

He's only ever dealt with rogue ghosts before, never human criminals.

Well, Freakshow, but.. That doesn't count.

Technically..

Freakshow picked a fight with him.

Either way, he's definitely never dealt with anything like this.

He is not getting involved.

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dpxdc: we all go on about how the Ultimate Enemy means that Phantom could kill all of Earth's Heroes because Plasmius Phantom must have succeeded in doing so in his timeline. But what if it was less a matter of raw power, and more that he stole Batman's contingency plans.

Danny watching the Justice League on the news: You really managed to defeat them all? Dan Masters, scoffing: Batman has plans for how to take each and everyone of them out. When you know your enemies every weakness and they know nothing of yours, it's not that hard.

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xjxj8899-blog The league wouldn't be worried about his wellbeing mostly because till they find amity nothing should be able to hurt nabu right now they would be more worried about what he was doing because he is a lord of order not good 9/10 he is on the side of good give him a good argument for a villian's rule he'd go with it vi-reads *nodnod* The JL is mostly worried because they can't figure out Where Nabu's helmet *is*, or who may be interacting with it. As much for the benefit/concern of the poor schmucks who might get dragged into things as for Nabu himself.

Can you imagine their faces when they realize a that group of teenagers have managed to wrangle Nabu into more acceptable behavior?

The reason Nbau hasn't 'escaped' boils down to 3 main things given that he could probably take Team Phantom in a fight if he tried.

Firstly while ghosts are not affiliated with the Lords of Chaos or Order, they do trend towards being more chaotic then orderly. Danny and the rest of Team Phantom are acting as gate guardians. If he got rid of them ghosts would flood the earth causing chaos. He doesn't know how to shut down the portal. It's technology. What if it destroying it blows an even bigger and less controlled hole in the veil between Earth and the Zone?

Secondly he's spent the last 60 years being stored in the Tower of Fate. Is fighting ghosts what he wants do be doing? Well, he'd rather fight agents of Chaos, but it's better than gathering dust. Are teenagers who he wants to be talking to? Mature adult conversation would be preferred but anyone is better than no-one.

Thirdly Team Phantom is vehemently opposed to letting him leave Amity Park while possessing someone. It is beneath his dignity to be chased all over the world by weapon waving and screaming teens. And while he'd never admit it to anyone, he's not entirely sure that given sufficient motivation they wouldn't succeed in trapping him. Team Phantom he has concluded, are bad enemies to have.

I'm mostly familiar with Doctor Fate from Young Justice, of which I've watch only the first season and am currently rewatching, so that's where I'm characterizing him from. I don't actually realize that there had been an in-universe attempt to convince him to switch between a team of hosts until I was skimming the Wikipedia. Clearly Doctor Fate as a shared hero ID is a sensible idea.

Team Phantom get their hands on the Helmet of Fate. Somehow (maybe the Thermos works on Doctor Fate, maybe Phantom can knock him out of a host, maybe Spector Deflectors works against him) they manage to negotiate that Nabu won't take anyone as a host for longer then the crisis the Helmet was donned for; unless they willing offer to host him for a short and defined amount time or a for specific task.

The Helmet of Fate is mostly rotated between Sam and Tucker, but sometimes Jazz is Doctor Fate and they're even asked random Amity Parkers to help out. They've also taken to chatting with Nabu when they're not wearing the Helmet.

Nabu has plenty of company and opportunity to combat chaos. He's also being forcibly befriended by a bunch of teenagers who thinks he's lame, and a fruitloop. It's a step up from sitting on a shelf for year, but he's not sure it's better then having a full time host all to himself.

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dpxdc: we all go on about how the Ultimate Enemy means that Phantom could kill all of Earth's Heroes because Plasmius Phantom must have succeeded in doing so in his timeline. But what if it was less a matter of raw power, and more that he stole Batman's contingency plans.

Danny watching the Justice League on the news: You really managed to defeat them all? Dan Masters, scoffing: Batman has plans for how to take each and everyone of them out. When you know your enemies every weakness and they know nothing of yours, it's not that hard.

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It turns out that the Fenton Thermos will suck up anything infused with Ectoplasm, including people who are Overshadowed.

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dpxdc: we all go on about how the Ultimate Enemy means that Phantom could kill all of Earth's Heroes because Plasmius Phantom must have succeeded in doing so in his timeline. But what if it was less a matter of raw power, and more that he stole Batman's contingency plans.

Danny watching the Justice League on the news: You really managed to defeat them all? Dan Masters, scoffing: Batman has plans for how to take each and everyone of them out. When you know your enemies every weakness and they know nothing of yours, it's not that hard.

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Team Phantom get their hands on the Helmet of Fate. Somehow (maybe the Thermos works on Doctor Fate, maybe Phantom can knock him out of a host, maybe Spector Deflectors works against him) they manage to negotiate that Nabu won't take anyone as a host for longer then the crisis the Helmet was donned for; unless they willing offer to host him for a short and defined amount time or a for specific task.

The Helmet of Fate is mostly rotated between Sam and Tucker, but sometimes Jazz is Doctor Fate and they're even asked random Amity Parkers to help out. They've also taken to chatting with Nabu when they're not wearing the Helmet.

Nabu has plenty of company and opportunity to combat chaos. He's also being forcibly befriended by a bunch of teenagers who thinks he's lame, and a fruitloop. It's a step up from sitting on a shelf for year, but he's not sure it's better then having a full time host all to himself.

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DPxDC idea: The Batarang Incident kills Jason and he returns as an Infinite Realms ghost.

Humans are not inclined towards surviving incidents like having their throats cut or being in an explosion that brings down a building on them. One after the other, with no rescue or medical attention? Jason died again in that confrontation with Batman and the Joker. He returns as a Ghost of the Infinite Realms.

For one reason or another, perhaps he forms right away right next to his corpse, perhaps Batman never looks for his body, Jason is able to return to being the Red Hood without much trouble. Sure he covers every inch of skin and uses a voice changer, but he did that before, it's nothing new. If he's a bit more paranoid about it, well chalk it up to his father having stuck a batarang in his neck the last time he removed his helmet.

Jason is just glad that his suit covers up the glow. Because he does that now. Glow. All the time. Compared to the glowing? Inhuman changes of colouration are just window dressing. Getting a hang of his new powers took a couple of weeks, but the timing was convenient - people might have expected him to be out of the game for months with the injuries he should have had.

So Jason's ghost now. It's fine. When he asked his father Batman to choose between killing him or letting him kill the Joker, he can't say this was an outcome he expected. But it's fine. Everything is fine.

(It's not fine.)

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dpxdc: we all go on about how the Ultimate Enemy means that Phantom could kill all of Earth's Heroes because Plasmius Phantom must have succeeded in doing so in his timeline. But what if it was less a matter of raw power, and more that he stole Batman's contingency plans.

Danny watching the Justice League on the news: You really managed to defeat them all? Dan Masters, scoffing: Batman has plans for how to take each and everyone of them out. When you know your enemies every weakness and they know nothing of yours, it's not that hard.

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What about both? Elle is Tim's but Dan is Vlad's.

Maybe Elle kept destabilizing because her Ectoplasm is too similar to Danny's, more like a Duplicate then a separate ghost. Adding Tim's DNA into the mix firmly shifts her from the Duplicate category to the child category.

Dan meanwhile already had a mix of Danny's and Vlad's ectoplasm so he didn't need any further additions and didn't pick up anything from Tim.

Which given the fertilization timing for fraternal twins means that Tim thinks that this happened while he was in town and he didn't notice.

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One night stand baby misunderstanding. trans! Danny and deaged Elle/Dani and dan. I have seen this idea with jazz and Jason but I'm doing it with Danny and Tim. 

Tim meets Danny dring the time quest request to find Bruce. Tim ends up going to Amity Park and meets Danny. The two of them end up falling into bed together and not long after Danny has to save Elle from destabilizing as well as Dan due to a Vlad plot.

Danny later ends up in Gotham for school and runs into Tim. Tim does the math for the kids and realizes something. I don't think he would flat out ask if the kids are his but I do think there is very much a back and forth between the mix signals of whether the kids are actually his, This is especially funny if Tim doesn't know that Danny is Phantom or any of the ghost stuff in Danny's life.

This can go two ways: the kids are actually Tim's due to Danny having the material in his system when he stabilizes the kids( reverting back to core and incubating and Danny situation) or For the kids are not his and it's not cleared up until a lot later.

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Team Phantom get their hands on the Helmet of Fate. Somehow (maybe the Thermos works on Doctor Fate, maybe Phantom can knock him out of a host, maybe Spector Deflectors works against him) they manage to negotiate that Nabu won't take anyone as a host for longer then the crisis the Helmet was donned for; unless they willing offer to host him for a short and defined amount time or a for specific task.

The Helmet of Fate is mostly rotated between Sam and Tucker, but sometimes Jazz is Doctor Fate and they're even asked random Amity Parkers to help out. They've also taken to chatting with Nabu when they're not wearing the Helmet.

Nabu has plenty of company and opportunity to combat chaos. He's also being forcibly befriended by a bunch of teenagers who thinks he's lame, and a fruitloop. It's a step up from sitting on a shelf for years, but he's not sure it's better then having a full time host all to himself.

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Okay, I think that's my resort of my blogs related shuffling around done for unless I forgot anything - so back to my irregularly scheduled normal posts.

I used to have other specialized blogs. At first I had a side blog per fandom. Then I condensed those all down into a blog for other people's posts that I had commented on and for other people's comments on my posts. Now I am combining that blog into this one.

So this blog will contain:

All the posts I create (as it has always done).

Reblogs of people's comments on my original posts so they don't end up lost if the poster's blog is deleted.

My reblogging comments on other peoples posts.

I'll have to decide as I go if I should reblog a copy of my comments or reposts my comments.

In any case once I've finished moving everything over all future reblog-comments of mine will be make from this blog.