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It would be hilarious if the Inquisitor could recruit Hakkon Wintersbreath to kill the Red Lyrium Dragon so they can kill Corypheus.

'A Dragon to counter a Dragon!" they enthuse.

"It's a god-spirit, so it can talk to me." they reason.

"Come to war with me." they entreat a god of war and winter.

Very few people like this decision, but it's also very hard to argue against. Both because it's actually a reasonable solution to these two separate problems facing the Inquisitor and because it's hard to argue with someone who has a High Dragon looming over them.

(And if Hakkon Wintersbreath survives fighting the Red Lyrium Dragon then invades Orlais. Well. Corypheus is dead. Hopefully the Breach is permanently closed. The Inquisition has fulfilled its purpose. Orlais is an empire. Sure it can deal with one angry dragon-god?

And if it can't. Well. It's the Orlesian Empire. That's no great loss. They're talked to Hakkon about targeting nobles and military commanders over the oppressed masses.

As for the Avvar. They have waited these long centuries for Hakkon to die and be reborn. Surely they can wait a few months more?)

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Mage Origin Thought: I think it would be hilarious if your Mage Warden had been completely sincere about being willing to help Mouse get across the Veil. Like they're not willing to let him posses them and they're not willing to risk Templars over it, but if they were ever in a circumstance were they could get assistance in safely summoning a specific spirit from the Fade - they'd be willing to do it.

And then they end up one of two surviving Grey Wardens in Ferelden, duty-bound to end a Blight with only the assistance of a witch and some Ancient Treaties. If there was anyone it might be safe to ask for help in summoning a probably demon, it would be the Witches of the Wilds, yes?

And that's how Mouse becomes the fourth member of this little company out to stop the Blight. Alistair is so out it from grief and relief that it takes him a bit to really question where the Warden's 'friend from the Circle' came from.

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Fanfic Idea: Stubby Boardman is Regulus Black.

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profilozof I would love to see them faking being alive for all the shenanigans and angst it would bring: jazz finding out that her parents let her brother and his friends die and didn't even noticed. Sam's and Tucker's parents realizing that something is wrong and maybe supporting their kid in the way they can.

I definitely lean towards the faking-being-alive route. I love the trio frantically keep their secrets and don't really want to write an exploration of the changes involved in them telling their parents.

Although...you know... this opens up the possibility of the Foleys, the Mansons and Jazz all knowing different parts of the Trio's secret. Someone has realized they're hunting and fighting ghosts. Someone else has realized they're helping and making friends with ghosts. A different person has the horrible and creeping suspicion that the trio themselves are ghosts. No-one has told anyone else what they believe the trio's secret to be.

Dead Trio AU: first thing to decide: what do they look like? Can they pass as human? Could they pass as their living selves?

Because if they can pass as their living selves that opens up the realms of possibilities which is three dead teenagers pretending that everything is normal and desperately covering up any ghostly slips. Or telling their families while still pretending to be alive to everyone else, etc.

But if they can't pass, then they actually have to deal with the whole thing.

Do they try and tell their families? Are they believed? How do you prove that you are the ghost of a dead loved one to someone who saw you alive mere hours ago? Do they have proof? A video? A corpse?

Do they choose not to tell them? Let their loved ones try to live with the fact they just vanished? If they have corpses, do they hide them?

What if they don't get to decide? What if the Fentons walk in on them in the basement? Do they get the chance to try an explain? Do the Fentons have weapons that work on ghosts yet? Does that matter with three ghosts this unused to their news selves? Do the Fentons believe them, when they tell them who they are? Do they think it matters? If they don't believe them, do they think that these ghosts claiming to be their son and his friends kidnapped the real trio? Or killed them?

Do they flee the Fenton house into the human world, or into the Ghost Zone? If they go to the Zone, what do the ghost think of them?

What does Amity Park think of this? Of the revelation that ghosts are real and we know this, because three teens died but they didn't leave. Or the Fenton's son and his best friends just disappeared and the Fenton are claiming that ghosts stole them but everyone knows their obsessed - you know, I heard that they killed them, and they're trying to cover it up by claiming ghosts did it.

Like, there are just so, so many ways this AU could go.

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lord-of-0blivion The GWI try to follow. They quickly find out that the GZ and Hell are 2 separate dimensions.

How do they find this out?

Do they anger Constantine enough that they get a demon set on them?

Do mistake a demon for a ghost but none of their anti-ecto tech works on it?

Do they try and cite some sort of English anti-demon law and get told that Ecto-Entities obviously aren't counted under that law.

Do they encounter a demon summoning and think it is a way into the Ghost Zone that doesn't require a Ghost Portal?

Do they witness a demon exorcism and later try it on a ghost to no effect?

Does Britain have a pre-existing treaty of neutrality or defense with the Ghost Zone regarding Hell?

I want to know what sort of nonsense we think the GIW get up to in attempting to pursue Team Phantom into England.

John Constantine meets Danny Phantom because Team Phantom moves to England to get away from the Guys in White and America's Anti-Ecto Laws.

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DPxDC idea: The Batarang Incident kills Jason and he returns as an Infinite Realms ghost.

Humans are not inclined towards surviving incidents like having their throats cut or being in an explosion that brings down a building on them. One after the other, with no rescue or medical attention? Jason died again in that confrontation with Batman and the Joker. He returns as a Ghost of the Infinite Realms.

For one reason or another, perhaps he forms right away right next to his corpse, perhaps Batman never looks for his body, Jason is able to return to being the Red Hood without much trouble. Sure he covers every inch of skin and uses a voice changer, but he did that before, it's nothing new. If he's a bit more paranoid about it, well chalk it up to his father having stuck a batarang in his neck the last time he removed his helmet.

Jason is just glad that his suit covers up the glow. Because he does that now. Glow. All the time. Compared to the glowing? Inhuman changes of colouration are just window dressing. Getting a hang of his new powers took a couple of weeks, but the timing was convenient - people might have expected him to be out of the game for months with the injuries he should have had.

So Jason's ghost now. It's fine. When he asked his father Batman to choose between killing him or letting him kill the Joker, he can't say this was an outcome he expected. But it's fine. Everything is fine.

(It's not fine.)

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dpxdc: we all go on about how the Ultimate Enemy means that Phantom could kill all of Earth's Heroes because Plasmius Phantom must have succeeded in doing so in his timeline. But what if it was less a matter of raw power, and more that he stole Batman's contingency plans.

Danny watching the Justice League on the news: You really managed to defeat them all? Dan Masters, scoffing: Batman has plans for how to take each and everyone of them out. When you know your enemies every weakness and they know nothing of yours, it's not that hard.

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dpxdc: we all go on about how the Ultimate Enemy means that Phantom could kill all of Earth's Heroes because Plasmius Phantom must have succeeded in doing so in his timeline. But what if it was less a matter of raw power, and more that he stole Batman's contingency plans.

Danny watching the Justice League on the news: You really managed to defeat them all? Dan Masters, scoffing: Batman has plans for how to take each and everyone of them out. When you know your enemies every weakness and they know nothing of yours, it's not that hard.

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dpxdc: we all go on about how the Ultimate Enemy means that Phantom could kill all of Earth's Heroes because Plasmius Phantom must have succeeded in doing so in his timeline. But what if it was less a matter of raw power, and more that he stole Batman's contingency plans.

Danny watching the Justice League on the news: You really managed to defeat them all? Dan Masters, scoffing: Batman has plans for how to take each and everyone of them out. When you know your enemies every weakness and they know nothing of yours, it's not that hard.

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I don't like Obsessions. I don't like the way they are used to 'dehumanize' ghosts, depersonalize them. But I was thinking what's the human equivalent of a fundamental species wide drive to do particular actions and, well, you could say all humans are Obsessed with eating food, with drinking water, with all those other things we need to do or suffer the consequence that is painfully dying. And then I thought well, why do ghosts need an Obsession, what function does it fulfil, if it's 'food' is there anything else they could 'eat'.

So. A combined Ghost Obsession and Ghost Hunger AU.

A ghost fulfilling their Obsession generates ectoplasm. And ghosts need ectoplasm to live. But this doesn't mean a ghost has to fulfill their Obsession, it just means that a ghost who isn't following their Obsession needs to consume Ectoplasm instead.

How much this influence ghosts depends on questions like:

Do they need to eat ectoplasm in the Ghost Zone or does it have a background field of ectoplasm that supports their existence?

Do humans generate an emotional energy that can be converted into ectoplasm?

How much ectoplasm does a ghost need to support itself? Can they store up ectoplasm or do they need to feed regularly? Does this vary according to their use of powers?

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dpxdc: we all go on about how the Ultimate Enemy means that Phantom could kill all of Earth's Heroes because Plasmius Phantom must have succeeded in doing so in his timeline. But what if it was less a matter of raw power, and more that he stole Batman's contingency plans.

Danny watching the Justice League on the news: You really managed to defeat them all? Dan Masters, scoffing: Batman has plans for how to take each and everyone of them out. When you know your enemies every weakness and they know nothing of yours, it's not that hard.

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dpxdc: we all go on about how the Ultimate Enemy means that Phantom could kill all of Earth's Heroes because Plasmius Phantom must have succeeded in doing so in his timeline. But what if it was less a matter of raw power, and more that he stole Batman's contingency plans.

Danny watching the Justice League on the news: You really managed to defeat them all? Dan Masters, scoffing: Batman has plans for how to take each and everyone of them out. When you know your enemies every weakness and they know nothing of yours, it's not that hard.

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Honestly? The funniest take might be that Danny genuinely doesn't get involved.

Phantom protects humans from ghosts and sometimes ghosts from humans. But he draws the line at protecting humans from humans. They're adults. They can figure this out. He'll step in if someone is going to get vivisected.

Otherwise he has homework and popcorn.

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The GIW, trying to find a way into the Ghost Zone, bust open a doorway to Musutafu instead. And they don't think very highly of the "humans" that live there.

Danny shouldn't get involved. Techniquely, the GIW are comprised of humans. This isn't a ghost problem. This isn't his problem. It's not his fault if the GIW want to wage war in an alternate universe.

He's only ever dealt with rogue ghosts before, never human criminals.

Well, Freakshow, but.. That doesn't count.

Technically..

Freakshow picked a fight with him.

Either way, he's definitely never dealt with anything like this.

He is not getting involved.

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dpxdc: we all go on about how the Ultimate Enemy means that Phantom could kill all of Earth's Heroes because Plasmius Phantom must have succeeded in doing so in his timeline. But what if it was less a matter of raw power, and more that he stole Batman's contingency plans.

Danny watching the Justice League on the news: You really managed to defeat them all? Dan Masters, scoffing: Batman has plans for how to take each and everyone of them out. When you know your enemies every weakness and they know nothing of yours, it's not that hard.

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xjxj8899-blog The league wouldn't be worried about his wellbeing mostly because till they find amity nothing should be able to hurt nabu right now they would be more worried about what he was doing because he is a lord of order not good 9/10 he is on the side of good give him a good argument for a villian's rule he'd go with it vi-reads *nodnod* The JL is mostly worried because they can't figure out Where Nabu's helmet *is*, or who may be interacting with it. As much for the benefit/concern of the poor schmucks who might get dragged into things as for Nabu himself.

Can you imagine their faces when they realize a that group of teenagers have managed to wrangle Nabu into more acceptable behavior?

The reason Nbau hasn't 'escaped' boils down to 3 main things given that he could probably take Team Phantom in a fight if he tried.

Firstly while ghosts are not affiliated with the Lords of Chaos or Order, they do trend towards being more chaotic then orderly. Danny and the rest of Team Phantom are acting as gate guardians. If he got rid of them ghosts would flood the earth causing chaos. He doesn't know how to shut down the portal. It's technology. What if it destroying it blows an even bigger and less controlled hole in the veil between Earth and the Zone?

Secondly he's spent the last 60 years being stored in the Tower of Fate. Is fighting ghosts what he wants do be doing? Well, he'd rather fight agents of Chaos, but it's better than gathering dust. Are teenagers who he wants to be talking to? Mature adult conversation would be preferred but anyone is better than no-one.

Thirdly Team Phantom is vehemently opposed to letting him leave Amity Park while possessing someone. It is beneath his dignity to be chased all over the world by weapon waving and screaming teens. And while he'd never admit it to anyone, he's not entirely sure that given sufficient motivation they wouldn't succeed in trapping him. Team Phantom he has concluded, are bad enemies to have.

I'm mostly familiar with Doctor Fate from Young Justice, of which I've watch only the first season and am currently rewatching, so that's where I'm characterizing him from. I don't actually realize that there had been an in-universe attempt to convince him to switch between a team of hosts until I was skimming the Wikipedia. Clearly Doctor Fate as a shared hero ID is a sensible idea.

Team Phantom get their hands on the Helmet of Fate. Somehow (maybe the Thermos works on Doctor Fate, maybe Phantom can knock him out of a host, maybe Spector Deflectors works against him) they manage to negotiate that Nabu won't take anyone as a host for longer then the crisis the Helmet was donned for; unless they willing offer to host him for a short and defined amount time or a for specific task.

The Helmet of Fate is mostly rotated between Sam and Tucker, but sometimes Jazz is Doctor Fate and they're even asked random Amity Parkers to help out. They've also taken to chatting with Nabu when they're not wearing the Helmet.

Nabu has plenty of company and opportunity to combat chaos. He's also being forcibly befriended by a bunch of teenagers who thinks he's lame, and a fruitloop. It's a step up from sitting on a shelf for year, but he's not sure it's better then having a full time host all to himself.

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dpxdc: we all go on about how the Ultimate Enemy means that Phantom could kill all of Earth's Heroes because Plasmius Phantom must have succeeded in doing so in his timeline. But what if it was less a matter of raw power, and more that he stole Batman's contingency plans.

Danny watching the Justice League on the news: You really managed to defeat them all? Dan Masters, scoffing: Batman has plans for how to take each and everyone of them out. When you know your enemies every weakness and they know nothing of yours, it's not that hard.

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It turns out that the Fenton Thermos will suck up anything infused with Ectoplasm, including people who are Overshadowed.