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Can someone help me? I can’t see Will in this shot
He should be behind Lucas and Max and the other black boy and the girl with the red shirt. But after Mike and El kiss, it seems like he disappears. I see Mike and El, Dustin and Nancy, Max is still hugging Lucas, but where’s Will? Why does he keep disappearing?
It’s interesting that in this season Joyce asks What happens when my boy is gone? and Owens doesn’t answer. We will definitely know what it means in S5
Here we still see Will
The girl
(edit) Will again in the gif below, and the black kid and the girl with the red shirt. I think she’s there because she’s easy to spot.
But after this, poof. Gone. It’s strange. If we’re seeing different timelines in a time loop, it means that Will couldn’t go to the ball in one of them. What happened to him? And why did he disappear after Mike and El kiss and right before we see the Mind Flayer?
#i’ve been staying up so late for days diving deep into st theories please send help#rbing this so i dont forget-#i’ve been messing w the idea that there’s a timeline we see in s2 wherein will isnttt… part of the party ?#slash- will isn’t attending school ???#when lucas and dustin bike home after seeing max get dropped off at the arcade for the first time they radio mike#who refuses to talk with them and so lucas and dustin decide to ask max to trick or treat w them tomorrow#this is relevant because of the lines about how their party isn’t a monarchy (i think) but a democracy#which. would imply it goes based off majority vote. thus implying that two in favor is a majority vote#even though that’s /half the party/ !!!!! we can glean from details that lucas and dustin seem to make zero effort to contact will abt this#they radio mike then give up and decide to go with majority vote buuut will says he didn’t know abt max trick or treating w them#when mike asks in the scene when wills filming just before he true sights into the upside down.#additionallyyy. i think the scene of joyce and hop going to wills doctor appointment and being referred to as mom and pop is the same-#—timeline possibly. my thoughts on timeline theory is generally that things are kinda consistently bleeding through ?#so in the timeline where will is part of the party/an active member he was still pulled to go to a appointment-#like. i’m not forgetting abt the party watching him leave/mike commenting on it all!! but i think like#smthn was screwy while they were in hnl and details hopped between a timeline where will isn’t really involved in the party#and joyce and hop are. together ? ?? this could align w the theories of a timeline where they’re willel and maybe jon’s parents#and the main timeline which has will with the party and bob and joyce together atm.#i’m trying to think if this could be connected to twelvegate/other such theories buuut#i think this is the timeline with the season 1 version of the boy who came back to the life article (will in the lab)#and the ‘true’ slash main timeline has the s2 version w the fake story that hopper found him in the woods#i’ve also toyed w the thought that will mayyy b. not alive. in one timeline. but i’m admittedly blanking on the details for that one#anyways sorry if all the tags damage ur notifs op this was just a detail that really Stuck w me excellent eye!!!!!!#need to pay attention when i hit the snowball during my current rewatch…
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….you see, because i don’t believe all the leaks we’ve been getting, esp not such vague ones. but, they are fun to think about, and this one is making me want to share my willel biological twins theory….
#stranger things#will byers#el hopper#willel#willel bio twins theory#i WILL forget that i used that’s a tag but whatevs
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WAIT writters said it’s not about a couple too so omg
#need to be sleeping rn but#people are worried this means jonathan will die but tbh#w/how the will cassette only really got promoted post s4 iirc#i wonder if like….#smthn smthn. we know the upside down is stuck on nov6 and the tweet implies like#that dialogue was said on nov6. meaning the cassette (if this post is right and that’s what the tweet was abt) would exist in the upside do#*down. damn character limit.#anyways i don’t entirely know where i’m going with this#but there’s smthn there with the upside down being stuck in nov6 + this cassette existing but not being given to will yet#and the fact will was constantly heard singing while stuck in the ud (ft. the song jonathan first used to distract will#solidifying music as a way they bond and connect and etc. bc in st the music is about a link to a good memory#i dunno i feel there’s soooomething with the fact that cassette would exist by the point will got babynapped to the ud#and all of a sudden now s4 is out and we’re hearing abt the power of positive music memories#they’re showing us a cassette for will again. i think it’s relevant !
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Im telling you now. when i find the people behind the sttwt acc it will be allllll over for them. catching these fucking hands for using my son like this
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(from: will byers secret files)
henry is constantly compared to freddy krueger. the byers live on elm street. nancy, the final girl of the og nightmare on elm street, lived. at 1428 elm street. the byers home in hawkins was on elm street (and looking at the map, might’ve been the sole home there). in the 2010 remake, freddy is killed via fire, gains new powers which allow him inside of peoples heads, then. is defeated again, via fire. after els initial defeat of henry, he takes on a burned appearance, but gains new powers which allow him inside of peoples heads.
im not saying that season 5 is gonna have will being the one to nerf henry, as he’s the one henry’s been targeting after his initial defeat, and that the byers living on elm street is proof of this bc of all the henry : freddy parallels but.
#will byers#stranger things#season 5#theory#will has powers#elm street gate WHEN#if we wanna get more insane with this.#henry was shown being electrocuted/shocked with lightning. that’s how he got like. burned.#will has powers and the best name for them would be electromagnetic manipulation#he opened a gate. which is literally referred to as falling under electromagnetic fields. it’s a form of manipulating electromagnetism#lighting also falls under electromagnetism.#i will DIE on this hill
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finally posting here again to chime in on all the people saying that we’re getting s5 on october 13th (because of the official accounts referencing ‘353 days’ today, which is 353 days away from friday the 13th, 2023)
im not sure if it’ll be a release on the thirteenth, but it could be a slasher reference? i’ve been trying to make a cohesive theory about this for awhile now, but off the top of my head:
friday the 13th is an iconic slasher film, and iirc, one of the bullies who targets will in ‘trick or treat freak’ is dressed as jason voorhees
there’s the constant references to michael myers, dustin compares el to him in season one, there’s max’s costume in season 2, then the return of her michael mask in season 4, when eddie wears it, wayne comparing victor creel and michael myers, and the grave in max’s vecna vision (episode 4) which seems to say myers on it
and one i haven’t seen people talk about; according to the map of hawkins which hopper uses in season 2... the byers live on elm street. there’s other references to nightmare on elm street, the duffers famously compared the teens situation in s1 to nightmare on elm street in terms of vibes, with nancy being based off of nancy thompson, and then visual similarities between noes scenes and scenes with joyce in season 1. also, theres a cut out for noes in family video, and robert englund was hired to play victor.
which... i dont know what to make of this! i think that the fact all these slashers keep being referenced could be important, but it could be the duffers doing.. the thing they do throughout the whole show and playing on 80s nostalgia. it could have a meaning for future plot events, and friday the 13th could be important, just... not for release date reasons, and as a reference to the film, for season 5 plot reasons.
just figured i’d point out all the slasher references while everyones freaking out over friday the 13th
#stranger things#byler#analysis#season 5#iiii stopped checking byler/st tumb months ago. when it got too big for me to be insane and check every single post in the tag every day#/gen. i. i would do that.#soooo not sure if this was just a sttwt thing or not but. yeah. it probably wasnt. and if it was. oh well#</333
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the main difference between st/byler tumblr and st/byler twt is that on tumblr i watched everyone have fun coming up with new characters for will to be shipped with (all played by finn wolfhard) and then i turned around and saw twt seriously making fun of the notion of a crossover ship and that’s why i’m only active on tumblr-
#tw1tter can be very fun and i have so much love for byler twt/st twt#but. it’s worth mentioning this distinction-
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a gentle reminder that the original party are really smart, enjoy learning and are actually science nerds. (the smart part is obvious: will reacts really fast and is pretty confident in his actions in s1ep1, mike is first to figure out what to do in dangerous situations, lucas has good strategic thinking, I don't have to say anything about dustin)
they won a science fair before s1 (1st place!!)
in s1 they figured out how to find the gate all by themselves (a strong magnet bends the magnetic field and affects the compass)
they love mr clark's lessons - "Mad Max" shows the contrast between the enthusiasm of Our Children and the boredom of the rest of the class (they are so excited to learn about humans brain, Mike is actually smiling!!)
mr clark also is the av club supervisor, and we all know how excited they were in s1ep1 when a radio station arrived, capable of reaching as far as australia
in s3 dustin goes to a science summer camp called Know Where, and after he arrives home, we are shown him bragging about the Things he made there (Will is Impressed)
i really want more of them using their knowledge to fight stuff from the UD, is this too much to ask?? out of 4 smartasses only dustin has remained true to his love of science and only he continues to actually use his intellect.
#extremely minute detail but#*they won multiple science fairs!#first place two years in a row except last year where they placed third but that was all politics according to mr clark#ifffff i remember correct#uhhhm trying to think of more examples of this cuz im p sure they’re out there#dustin works out the thing with the gate in season 4 (skull rock scene) - as an example of him being smart!#but no they’re all so smart esp when it comes to science + reasoning#my hyper complex st au hammers this in like hell and if we don’t see it in s5 im suing
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hey sorry i know tumblr isn’t talking abt this but my twt acc is a gross burner so uhm….. yeah hoping this reaches people who r watching what’s going on on twt rn
….am i being dumb or is the math not mathing??
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current st placements for a “best drama tv male character” poll on twt
sorry for the messy screenshots but i am Dying over here hello?
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tbh he deserved higher but i’m just happy to see my sweet boy getting top ten <33
#stranger things#steve harrington#mike wheeler#jonathan byers#byler#steddie#jonathan fucking deserved this idc#lumax#bc i suppose i’ll keep tagging ships- FUCK why did lucas’s tag not add?#lucas sinclair#there we go#jancy
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the hug being improvised is kinda funny when you consider it being used in the trailers/everyone freaking out trying to tell if will was hugging the same person in different frames. they decided to include that shot specifically, and we went crazy over it, and it was just charlie and noah going “hey yk what would really work with this scene?”
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hey so people have been theorizing that the reason no one celebrated wills birthday in season 4 is because they used wills birthday to try to reach him in season 2 when will was under henry’s possession and henry is described as taking memories. and like.
will says “it’s been a year, mike”, and i know a lot of people just figure he’s being dramatic/hasn’t felt close to mike for a year, but like. a year ago in st time would be wills birthday. the first birthday will had after his possession.
what if the “henry stole the memory of wills birthday” is correct, and in some way, that’s linked to the “it’s been a year” line? it’s the only memory that got stolen of something which happens annually, soooo… is there maybe something there?
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“bylers just make everything in the show about byler!!!” and then these are the bylers in question
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https://twitter.com/dcbicki/status/1567106192371073024?t=pa_3lKmU1_3Rvk1MSpfVMw&s=19
(in reference to this post)
……anon is this supposed to be hate? anon? a twitter users inability to grasp the definition of a incredibly simple literary trope and viewing “uhhhh ur dumb u don’t know ur shapes!” as the best argument ever? you’re dying on your inability to google how a trope used in the fucking arthurian legend works? hello?
#byler#will byers#mike wheeler#milkvan#<- assuming this is a ticked off milkvan who took my innocuous post pointing out the proper term for what’s canonically happening in st#sooo. that tag seems appropriate#anyways this is so funny cuz. like. it’s literally not even a pro byler comment it’s just yeah that’s the narrative term for the#romantic feelings we know to canonically exist in the show
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im going to cry i am begging you all to learn what a love triangle is. the situation between will el and mike is 100% a love triangle. even if you think wills feelings are one sided, it’s still a love triangle. will and el are siblings, there is no romantic love between them, and it’s still a love triangle.
you have person a, b, and c. a has romantic feelings for b and or c. b has romantic feelings for a and or c. c has romantic feelings for a and or b. all three members have romantic interest in one or more of the other members. that’s a love triangle
it’s…. basic understanding of tropes and narrative devices yall please
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everyday i get more proof for my theory that will is shaping the upside down even after leaving it
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everyone coming up with new mike variants for will to date is really fucking funny considering how just last night i was thinking about how will/character played by finn wolfhard is the most popular crossover ship for stranger things and. p much every media with a character played by finn wolfhard
it’s just human nature to see will and go “yeah he deserves every mike-aligned character to ever exist ever” i suppose
#will byers#byler#willhail#mikhail antonov#but also#ryers#borill#<-i thiiiink?#quietly staring @ the miles/will fics rn
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