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"[Me and Stu] ended up good friends, but we'd had a few ding-dongs, partly out of jealousy for John's friendship. We all rather competed for John's friendship, and Stuart, being his mate from art school, had a lot of his time and we were jealous of that."

-Paul (Anthology)

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Is this normal friends behavior?

“Paul turned to Linda and one or two friends and told them that it reminded him of the famously trippy session for “All you need is love”. ‘It was that same vibe. I just looked around and there were all these flowers and happy faces smiling up at me.’ Another sip or two, and he began murmuring huskily, “John…. John…..”” (Christopher Sandford, McCartney)

"Yoko had also once heard a rehearsal tape with John’s voice calling out “Paul… Paul …” in a strangely subservient, pleading way." (Philip Norman, John Lennon: The Life)

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I was reading Paul's book The Lyrics, and he says that he actually went to the fete to "pick up a girl" and not to meet John. What do you think of this?

That's almost definitely not true. For some reason Paul doesn't seem to want people to think that he went to the fete to see John. His friend Ian James, who helped Paul to learn to play the guitar, said that he helped him prepare for his meeting with John:

"I interviewed Ian for my book, “The Fab One Hundred and Four: The Evolution of The Beatles”, and he told how he helped Paul to prepare for meeting John at St. Peter’s Church on 6th July 1957." -David Bedford (x)

And even though the day was very hot, Paul:

"Paul arrived wearing his silver-flecked oatmeal jacket and the narrowest black drainies he'd yet smuggled past his father. He later admitted he was thinking less about meeting John Lennon than his chances of picking up a girl afterwards." (Paul McCartney: The Biography, by Philip Norman)

Lol, no wonder he has to say he only went there because he wanted to pick up a girl. Also, Ivan Vaughan (who introduced Paul to John) was a mutual friend, so it's pretty unlikely that Paul wasn't dying for Ivan to introduce him to John, based on the way Paul describes seeing John before the fete:

"I know how I saw John. He was just a ted, on the bus – greasy hair, long sideburns, shuffling around like he was Mr Hard. And I saw him on the top deck of the bus often, before I met him. Saw him in the queue at a chip shop once. And I thought, “He looks cool.” Turned out my best friend from school knew him. We went and met. (Interview for Esquire, 2015)

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"It's pretty clear now that we were a huge influence on each other. Readers might detect duelling emotions in my recollections of John; that's because my relationship with him was very mixed. Sometimes it was filled with great love and admiration, but other times not, especially around the time The Beatles were breaking up."

-Paul (The Lyrics, 2021)

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"To this very day, it still is a complete mystery to me that it happened at all. Would John and I have met some other way, if Ivan and I hadn't gone to that fête? I'd actually gone along to try and pick up a girl. I'd seen John around - in the chip shop, on the bus, that sort of thing - and thought he looked quite cool, but would we have ever talked? I don't know."

-Paul (The Lyrics, 2021)

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"While it's true that Linda is the person I'm addressing, it's also true that I'm dealing in fiction. Starting with myself, the characters who appear in my songs are imagined. I can't state that often enough. I know that in some quarters it's felt you can't write about gay people unless you're gay, or about Asian Americans unless you're an Asian American."

-Paul on Maybe I'm Amazed (The Lyrics, 2021)

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Hi. What is for you the best evidence that John and Paul had more than a friendship going on? This topic is new to me.

Hello! I have made a lot of posts about this, so because there are so many, I would suggest that you read the following, which I consider to be the most revealing:

https://www.tumblr.com/undying-love/747116547607314432?source=share (John seeminly hinting at it)

https://www.tumblr.com/undying-love/763072273237393408/they-always-make-it-sound-like-johns-ex-was-paul?source=share

https://www.tumblr.com/undying-love/746737159003832320/everything-that-paul-and-johns-girlfriendswives?source=share

https://www.tumblr.com/undying-love/760524606194974720/i-would-like-too-see-a-compilation-of-all-the?source=share (them being jealous of each other's wives, girlfriends, close friendships)

https://www.tumblr.com/undying-love/748696306813386752/love-goes-both-ways?source=share (gifs/pictures of them looking at each other)

https://www.tumblr.com/undying-love/745712172768919552/paul-turned-to-linda-and-one-or-two-friends-and?source=share (totally normal friends behavior)

https://www.tumblr.com/undying-love/759175217991057408/john-and-paul-being-normal-about-each-other-a?source=share (their comments about each other)

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"[While discussing Two Of Us] Wherever Linda and I got away, we would buy lots of postcards and send them to all our friends. John was also a great postcard sender, so you'd get some great stuff from him."

-Paul, The Lyrics (2021)

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Hi! What is the source of the quote "Paul and John were emotional partners in a powerful, creative and loving way"??

That was said by Paul Saltzman, who met the Beatles in India in 1968.

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Did Paul McCartney ever say “there was a deeper love there that neither of us could admit too” about him and Johns relationship? I saw it floating around but i don’t think it’s true, especially since I can’t find a source

He most likely didn't say that. I never found the source of that quote. There's lots of fake mclennon quotes .

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Hello, I see a lot of people saying that once Yoko dies, Paul will tell us what happened in India (or he’ll at least stop filtering things when talking about him and john’s relationship) however I never found a source for this claim of his. I was wondering if you maybe knew where it came from? I’m starting to deny its existence..

That's not really what Paul said and he never mentioned India. This is what he actually said on a phone call to Hunter Davies in 1981:

“I have some juicy stuff I could tell about John. But I wouldn’t. Not when Yoko’s alive, or Cynthia. John would. He would grab, go for the action, say the first thing in his head. We admired him for that. It was honesty; but it could hurt. And it wasn’t really all THAT honest. He KNEW he could hurt. He could be wicked. But I’m always sensible. That’s me. I would never say the things he said."

And Julian Lennon has recently said a couple of times that Paul has told him on many occasions that he's got some things to tell him about his father "that he has never told anybody". Julian says that Paul is always saying "I've got stuff to tell you".

*And BTW, I'm not even really sure that something particularly important happened while in India. Whatever happened between them probably ocurred AFTER they left India. Most likely during or after Paul and John's trip to New York right after India. By all accounts, they were getting along quite well during the trip and were still very close. But this was also the first time John saw Linda and wondered why Paul was bothering with her. And then after they returned to England he started to publicly go out with Yoko. And when they returned to the studio to record the White Album, their relationship had suddenly become strained. So I think it's possible that the turning point was New York and not India.

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Is there a line from a song Paul wrote about John that you think doesn't get the attention it deserves?

Yes! The last verse of Too Many People:

Why would Paul write this to taunt John? Think about it.

And it's funny beacuse Paul once said:

"In one song, I wrote, ‘Too many people preaching practices,�� I think is the line. I mean, that was a little dig at John and Yoko. There wasn’t anything else on it that was about them." (Playboy, 1984)

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"They were the final arbiters of everything between themselves"

Q: Were you around when [John and Paul] started to get angry with each other? John Dunbar: Oh yeah. I mean, 'cause that was, uh, about Yoko, really. [...] Let me tell you what I can remember is Paul and John were the best pals, really, right? They spent all their time together and stuff, and they had individual lives. But in the end they were the final sort of arbiters of everything between themselves. Yoko completely took over John. I mean, Paul just really felt left out and just hated it, you know what I mean?

-All You Need Is Love: The Beatles in Their Own Words (2024)

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“When we sang together,” Lennon told Mintz in one of their conversations, “Paul and I would share the same microphone. I’d be close enough to kiss him. Back then, I didn’t wear me specs onstage – Brian Epstein said they made me look old. So we’d be playing these concerts, in front of thousands of people, but the only thing I could see was Paul’s face. He was always there next to me – I could always feel his presence. It’s what I remember most about those concerts.”

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"Nobody was remotely interested in this idea of I wrote songs until I met John! And I’d seen him around Liverpool, he’d got on a bus once and I said: Woah, look at this guy! At the big sideboards, you know, the hair swept back. I thought: He’s got something going."

—Paul (Howard Stern Show, 2020)

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"Growing up in 1950s Liverpool as a guy, you most certainly had to hide away your feelings. Guys would never say 'I love you' to each other. We were just too busy trying to be macho, and we didn't realise it might make you a tad thoughtless sometimes. It was only later, as we matured, that we realised we were doing it because we were trying to be hard, young Liverpool guys. I think a lot of people still do hide away their feelings, but I'm lucky to have got out of that. Not totally, perhaps." (Paul on his song "Too Much Rain", The Lyrics, 2021)

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Paul on Arrow Through Me (written in 1978)

"The character in the song has been wounded. He's been cheated on. And it could've been a great relationship, could've been fantastic. As things stand, you couldn't ''have found a more down hero'', because there was nobody more down than me at that moment." (The Lyrics, 2021)