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So like… if euphoria got a commercial release, does that mean Vera survived game 5 to release it to the public or…

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Been driving myself insane trying to figure out what the other 2 perfume bottles are, somebody HELP ME!

My best guess for the 3rd one is that it’s like an inverse to regular Euphoria that brings memories back. Margie brings up that the perfume has a damp smell and when she starts to hallucinate about her past she’s floating in water. Also from a symbolic standpoint, Margie is always trying to run from her past so since she disliked the scent of the 3rd perfume it could be an indication that she also dislikes the smell that takes her back to the past. And lastly, with her past at lakeside, a damp smell would be familiar to her and also something she dislikes and wants to escape cause she hated her life there.

As for the first one, I don’t even know. I genuinely have no clue what that could possibly be. I know lily of the valleys have really positive meanings and I know Margie liked it, but I haven’t got any idea what that could mean. Vera brings up a reeky floral scent of a lily in her 2nd letter so that could be something but I really don’t know.

The middle one is obviously Euphoria. Iconic purple bottle and everything. Could even go further and say the scent of “wood burning” is symbolic for Margie and escaping her past with the fire from the circus. Could also be that fire has the ability to completely destroy something and turn it to ash with no trace of what it used to be. To top it all off, when Margie starts stressing she immediately goes for this bottle because it relaxes her. This is also why I’m hesitant to say that it was Euphoria that caused her hallucinations in the room. Euphoria has always been tied to relaxation and taking away painful memories so unless there’s a drawback to Euphoria that brings memories back in full force (which we haven’t seen any mention of as far as I know) I don’t think Euphoria caused it.

Going back to my theory about the 3rd bottle, I wonder why Vera would make something like that in the first place. Vera wants to escape her past, so why make a perfume that brings memories back? Also, damp smells aren’t all that pleasant in general and Vera has a particularly sensitive nose so I can’t imagine her wanting to make that. My best guess to that is it could be a character arc thing. Her 5th letter already mentions this whole mission to erase her memories thing isn’t fulfilling her. Maybe she turns around and makes a perfume to bring her memories back since her portrait does say her true nature is “opposite of what she once fantasized about.”

I could even tack on the fact Vera acts way different from how her deduction model theorized she would. Making a perfume that brings memories back could be a part of that since Orpheus might’ve underestimated her ability to face her past at some point and even go as far as to use the provisions he gave her to break out of the plan set for her in the deduction model for game 5 (small reference to Judith the dove using the key Murro gave Vera to trap her and turning it around to liberate herself and the other actresses)

I don’t know, I’m scraping for game 5 scraps in an event that has almost nothing to do with them and I know game 5 isn’t getting an event like this until I’m probably a junior in college (being generous). I am desperate.

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And if I see one more person call Patricia evil or crazy, I’m crashing tf out

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“That was painful and took way too much time. I hate art, I’m never gonna draw again” he says as he thinks about what he’s gonna draw next

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I wonder if there’s a false equivalency with Luca and Edgar. Cause I’ve been thinking about how Orpheus said he brought Luca in because he thought he’d make a good replacement for Edgar because they were similar enough, but when you put them side by side they aren’t that similar at all. From the little I know about Luca (and it is very little) wasn’t the reason he attacked Alva because of hurt pride/ego and misunderstanding? He thought Alva stole his father’s transcripts not knowing that they had been partners before and lashed out. Comparing that to Edgar who doesn’t care about how he’s perceived or other people’s opinions, as well as his reason behind killing Sarai being rooted in Sarai being a legit groomer, it makes them super different. Not only that, but every time they’re in essences together, it’s like Netease makes a point to emphasize that they are not the same.

Golden Ratio: the whole thing is the alchemists are foolishly trying to recreate the philosopher’s stone not knowing a) they’re doing it wrong by focusing on either technological or biological and b) that the philosopher’s stone itself is a scam and hurts the user more than helps them. Luca is one of the alchemists trying to recreate it and would be considered one of the “fools” in their context while Edgar knows how to create the philosopher’s stone and the futility of it. It portrays Edgar as being more enlightened than Luca and understands something he doesn’t.

Man in Red: man in red doesn’t have any real blessings and plays on the fear, hatred, and ignorance of the people to get them to make sacrifices. Luca is one of his followers but Edgar recognizes what Naib is doing which shows this pattern of Edgar seeming to understand something Luca doesn’t get. It makes me wonder if Orpheus made a mistake in trying to replicate Edgar with Luca because he might’ve fundamentally misunderstood how Edgar functioned

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I’ll never forget the time I posted a single tiktok about a tfem Edgar Valden hc and had like 8 different people tell me it was disgusting and wrong. It was a while back but I still think about it a lot. Mind you, the tmasc hcs never got that kind of shit (including tmasc hc of originally female characters like Martha). That was my misogyny moment with the fandom I’ll never forget.

Wanna weed out a misogynistic Edgar fan? Just say you hc her tfem and they’ll make it real clear for you

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I got Picsart, now everybody needs to prepare to be sick of me. I already never shut up about Edgar Valden, but now I can never shut up about Edgar Valden while being aesthetically pleasing about it.

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The fact that 90% of the fandom cannot for the life of them understand Patricia or Edgar’s characters is doing irreparable damage to people’s understanding of game 5 and it’s breaking my heart.

No, murdering people is not a girlboss move for Patricia. That doesn’t help her process her issues at all and she’s still hurting herself in the process by basically resigning to what everyone told her she was: a cursed bastard who needs to justify her own existence for something completely out of her control. (Also just literally hurting herself cause she has to actually cut herself to do any of her spells)

No, Edgar did not LITERALLY just die for his paintings and no other explanation. His paintings hold actual symbolic weight in his story and they represent more than just “he likes to paint” and I’m shocked this needs to be stated. Obviously his motivations would not that be simple and flat.

I know I’m constantly saying this, but it just pisses me off that much that I can’t shut up about it.

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Verapat may not be super popular, but I’m still a firm believer. So here’s demori academy yuri (Based on this small convo from the event)

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You know, when you think about it Kevin’s birthday is actually the furthest from Patricia. It feels close cause December comes right before January when the year starts over, but put it on a calendar and Kevin is the farthest away. I think about it a lot given the way birthdays are used as a tool to show the factions. It feels a little intentional, but maybe I’m reading too deep into it

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A lot of thoughts on this last chapter but I must say the implications on these two panels currently run free in my head.

Yoru's ability works only on what she see as "things" she owns. Which means she was able to turn her own children into weapons precisely because they are her children, and thus already belong to them in her mind.

And she didn't just turn them into weapons but literally as parts of herself. Just like a lot of parents irl consider their children as an extension of themselves on whom they have a right of property.

In only three pages, almost no lines and without even seeing Yoru directly interact with the Gun and Tank Devil, we learn everything we had to know on her relation with her family.

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If devils that contribute to the fear of another devil are considered to be their "children" then...

If all devils fear the same devil and contribute to its power….

Then… this devil's the real mother.

And the hell. His children.

Destined to enter and leave his womb.

After all, it all starts with a "mother" who witnesses the death of his child.

And he decides to devour the whole world to fill the void.

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I love tumblr, it’s like Twitter for fandoms and the tweets have no word count

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Would it make sense if I said that it feels like when people interpret Edgar, they’re more interested in Edgar as a concept than his actual character? Sometimes it feels like they’re fascinated with the idea of this guy who’s completely consumed by his love of art but then don’t go in depth on the actual build up to that love, his morals, his values, or his motives.

Whenever there’s an artist in idv, their art is usually an extension of a deeper desire. Phillipe uses his wax sculptures to embody his sense of justice and righteousness (it’s a flawed idea of justice, but that’s a different discussion). Vera’s perfumes are tied to her desire for acceptance and acknowledgment in the way that her perfume would’ve been the ticket to getting attention and the way that she’s now trying to use Euphoria to erase herself and become Vera which would give her acceptance. Aesop engages in the art of embalming, but it also acts as his way of trying to “preserve” people while they’re in their “best state” and spare them from life. Anne likes to make toys, but it also works as a way to show her desire for motherhood and her attempts to cling to childhood (I think, I don’t know Anne that well). The ripper uses the art of murder to subvert the minds of others and make a statement. Galatea uses her sculptures to try and obtain the physical maturity she knows she’ll never get.

All of these characters, and many more that I didn’t mention, use their art form as an extension of themselves and the art is tied to their goals. But when I see ppl interpret Edgar, it’s like his motives come second and the art comes first. People understand that Edgar is incredibly fixated on art, but why he loves art so much seems to get lost in translation a lot of times. It makes his character seem aimless because he literally only exists to paint. They don’t elaborate on why he paints or what significance it has for his overall character. If a character is going to be so centered around their obsession, then there should be a reason why they’re so obsessed, but a lot of the interpretations I see don’t go deeper on that part. That’s not to say he doesn’t have a reason, I’d argue he does and it’s stated in his deductions with the whole “life is beautiful and the brush can preserve that beauty.” People usually ditch this part of his character, writing it off as a part of his personality that’s just gone now because of all the bad stuff that happened to him. But then the question becomes, why does he still paint? If he really doesn’t have any hope for this world and thinks everything sucks and doesn’t even want to engage with it anymore, then what is he still picking up the brush for?

(Also this is just provably not true because the last thing he says in his deductions is “life is always odd, yet pleasant,” showing he still does like life and appreciates the beauty it holds.)

I think this is why people are chill with the idea of Edgar basically only existing to die in the narrative and don’t question his actions further. People accept the idea of Edgar sacrificing himself for his art while not asking how that helps his art in the first place. Since they don’t look deeper into Edgar’s motives outside of “he wants to create a masterpiece and he likes to paint,” they can blindly accept the idea that he just dies for his art. He doesn’t need to have a motive outside of that because his only motive in a lot of ppl’s interpretations is just painting. It feels like a bit of a cop-out because he literally has no reason to be doing all of this. Since they disregarded all of the parts of his character that involve why he started painting in the first place (being his love of life and a desire to capture its beauty) it makes it feel like he’s just messing around and waiting for someone to come along and just kill him. Since he has no real motives, values, or desires, he essentially becomes fodder for Patricia to kill. As it stands with this kind of interpretation, he can’t do much else. If he’s not fighting for anything or trying to achieve or maintain anything, all he really can do is die. And not even die with a purpose because again, this type of interpretation doesn’t elaborate on how his death helped his art at all. It comes off as some random edgy ending to a character with no defined goal. Then they explain it away with “he’s unhinged” as if that actually explains anything about his character or motives.

When he said “I don’t care about anything except art” a lot of people took that at face value. They didn’t take into account the symbolism of art in Edgar’s narrative, or the reactionary nature of that statement as a response to Edgar realizing he’s being groomed. I say this a lot, but Edgar’s art symbolizes a lot of things in his storyline. It represents his psyche, like with his paintings egging him on to kill Sarai. It represents his love of life as I stated earlier. It represents the bonds he forms with others like how he relates colors to people he cared about. He uses art metaphors a lot to explain his thoughts and how he processes events, like when he says he had a dream of Sarai guiding his hand across a canvas being one of the main first signs of Sarai grooming him. People take Edgar’s word very literally but often times when he’s talking about art, it can be extended to mean something else.

In general, it just feels like people don’t ask why enough when it comes to their Edgar analysis. Why does he paint? Why couldn’t he find inspiration in his home? Why does he think going to the manor will help him? Why did he hate the aristocracy so much? The answers to these questions are in his plot, but people don’t seem to engage with them. When Edgar says he hates the aristocracy people tend to hone in on the fact he says that they don’t understand or respect art, but going back to the whole art metaphors thing, that’s not all he’s mad about. He’s constantly talking about their greed, hypocrisy, and gossiping. He finds them shallow which shows Edgar’s values. He values people genuinely caring for one another. He doesn’t like when people make up stuff about others and ostracize people based on it. His criticisms of his father in his 3rd letter could extend to the entire aristocracy as a whole. They’re all more focused on status and wealth than the actual content of their character. But this all gets lost under the idea that he literally just didn’t like the aristocracy because they didn’t like art enough which I’m sorry but that is such a garbage and shallow reason. Especially when, again, most people cannot actually pinpoint why Edgar even likes to paint in the first place. It doesn’t do the complexity of his character justice. When Edgar says, “life is beautiful and the brush can preserve that beauty,” it gives him a motive. He’s not just painting to paint, he’s painting to make the overwhelming love and astonishment he has for life tangible. When Edgar is clocking his dad’s tea, it shows his morals. It shows that he thinks it’s wrong to use and/or neglect people for fame and status. However, all of these things are expressed through metaphor, which is when things start getting lost. His resentment of the aristocracy is said through saying they don’t respect art. Edgar’s adoration for all life has to offer is shown through his dedication to his art. Edgar’s frustration with his father is described by him as his father using his art. And even though Edgar is talking about art, it means so much more than that.

People play with the concepts of a rich kid who resents his peers but don’t look into why he does. People play with the concept of someone who’s unhealthily committed to his craft, but don’t examine why he is. People like the idea of Edgar, but they don’t seem to engage with the actual character of Edgar. They see the concepts but don’t see what the writers are saying with these concepts through Edgar and this results in having what feels like a shallow, bratty kid who has no actual motivations or goals and then dies for an unsatisfying ending to his story. It gives no closure, says nothing about his character, and feels like it was something an edgy 12 year old came up with as a “cool and controversial” finale for an underdeveloped character.

I could go even further as say this is why there’s such a big shipping scene for Edgar but very little content regarding how he interacts with others in his actual canon lore. Because this type of interpretation of Edgar is so far removed from everything and everyone else, basically living entirely in his own head until he dies, people put him in ships with basically every character to fill the perceived void of interactions Edgar has in canon. They seek to expand his character and who he could be with all these ships because it feels like he doesn’t have much of a character in canon. Now this isn’t true, but I believe it is perceived that way by the fandom. I also think this is why a lot of people who aren’t fans of him find him shallow. His general demeanor off put them (and it was supposed to, he is a character built on misdirection) and when they try to look deeper into him through what his fans say, it sounds more like a list of concepts than an actual character. This again makes him seem underdeveloped and boring to them, so they go on to call his character shallow and boring. Probably why you also see people go to the furthest extremes when characterizing him, either making him downright deplorable or overly sweet and kind. People don’t investigate the things that formed him into who he is outside of the very surface level, leading people to portray him in an almost caricature of his actual traits. He’s arrogant? Then he must be a complete jerk to everyone and have zero regard for other people. He cares deeply about his art? Then his art is quite literally number one priority, no matter who has to get hurt to achieve that. He can be a bit standoffish? Then he must go out of his way to be rude to people he views as lesser. And who does he deem lesser? Everyone apparently, because when he was talking about the way people don’t understand art, people don’t analyze what understanding art even means for Edgar. They don’t analyze what Edgar’s critiques of the aristocracy are when it came to the way they consumed art outside of this vague idea of “they just don’t get it” which is so devoid of actual meaning that people just assume that idea projects onto literally everyone. He’s mentally ill and struggles with psychosis? Then he’s an absolutely deranged and unhinged freak who can barely function (and that’s not even covering how toxic of an interpretation that is when it comes to mental illness as well as completely disregards the fact that Edgar is explicitly stated and shown to be rational and good at taking in his surroundings).

Edgar is a character that requires a lot of engagement, especially since his character is built on misdirection. The audience has to be willing to accept that the writers are misleading them about his character and try to look deeper into his words and actions to understand his true character. Unfortunately, it feels like a lot of ppl don’t want to.