#ziam proof

[watchingsunrises]

Zayn lyrics analysis - Grateful and The Time

As promised some lyric analysis from Room Under the Stairs. Still can't stop listening to these songs or album.

Some points to make clear first for context. The narrative set up for this album was a big fake mess and in reality did not align to the lyrics and what Zayn tells us in his music or interviews if you pay attention. The narrative set was he'd been writing the album for 6 years, it was about his relationship of that period and it was also about his daughter.

First the timeline makes no sense, we are meant to believe that this album covers the period of 2017 to 2023??!! Please Zayn released 3 full albums in that time period. Most artists write in their current context they rarely hold on to songs for 6 years. If they are good they want them on that current album. Also the songs on this album all reflect significant personal growth, emotional intelligence, maturity, possibly some therapy, reframing of his life including on his past in 1D. Its clear those are more recent changes that usually come with age or significant life changes or overcoming challenges. So the narrative on the timeframe was all bullshit. Its likely he wrote this album in 2022 to 2023. A period where he was publically single. The narrative was used to cover the many love/long term partner related songs on the album. Hello, Stardust. 

Secondly Zayn made it clear in a few interviews that he is really fast at putting his music together. He literally said he can put an entire song down start to finish in 2 to 3 hours. Don't think he needed 6 years to put this album together. 

The other gem Zayn gave us in interviews was the in hindsight, I don't think I've ever been in love before. Thank you Zayn, if people pay attention he made it pretty clear he isn't writing any love songs about his former public relationships. Yet the album has multiple love related songs. Again, hence the bullshit narrative.

Thirdly, the narrative the album was about his daughter. I mean she was 2 to 3 when this album was written. He makes it clear even where there is a stunt line or two that he is talking to an adult, telling them deep things, doing things they shouldn't do, lying for them etc. Nothing speaks about a toddler here at all. Not once. I have a child only a few years older, there's no sign of a child in these lyrics. 

With that in mind I wanted to analyse two of my favourite songs, as a start. Really powerful songs and vocals. Songs that are deeply personal to me, I understand and relate to the themes of gratitude and time deeply. I believe Zayn relates to them from similar life experiences. Songs I fully believe would have been originally part of the tour. Songs in the context of losing Liam, would be impossible to sing live. Hence the tour including a whole bunch of B sides from the album. 

Grateful

I see your mother’s shine in your eye

I know that you’re mine and I'm cryin'

Tellin' you the things that are on my mind

When I think of you

This is a classic stunt line used to set up the idea the song is about his daughter who he is grateful for. If you pay attention to the third line he is telling things to this person that are on his mind. He is not telling a then 2 or 3 year old all the things on his mind. He is talking about another adult here, his love, his person. He's also not talking about Gigi here, they were broken up when the album was really written, plus he never loved her, remember. The rest of the song is also talking about the ups and downs in life and his relationship. A relationship he's still clearly in, there's no past tense. With that in mind let's revisit the first two lines and how intimate and beautiful they really are. He is telling his person, his love, that their eyes share the same shine as their mother. Ugh my heart. Zayn is the softest, most romantic. That he knows this person is his person in life and knowing he's met his person makes him cry. Cry from happiness and gratitude. And if you believe his person, his love is Liam then this song already just stunning that this is how his love feels to him. Now it's just even more beautiful and gut wrenching and no wonder he couldn't sing it live on tour, even though it's such a sing a long style song and I fully believe he would have intended to sing it on tour. 

Yeah, I'm grateful for you

Love it when the rain comes down

Love it when the waves calm down

Yeah, I'm grateful for you

He is just so content and happy to have found his person in life. The rains can come down on them individually or as a couple, they know they can get through and things always calm down eventually. He is just grateful. Again gut wrenching now. I can barely contemplate how these songs have changed for Zayn. 

These days I live to my depiction

Nowadays I'm findin' no affliction

These days I'm needin' no restriction

Feel like I'm finding new addiction

He is as a person feeling like he can be more of his true self in private and public, perhaps found ways to find peace in his/their closeting and situation. He has less restrictions now without the constant long term beading/pr relationships. He is able to stay publically single with the cover of a child. There is a whole different post somewhere in the future on this. I believe Louis and Zayn were able to make the same negotiation to be single in exchange for father of the year roles. But perhaps their partners had to more heavily stunt in relationships too. We will never know but there is some mirroring between the two couples situations the last 3 years or so especially Zouis. 

And it feels good

And I knew it would

When I'm tellin' this story it's complicated

Some mishaps I've been mournin' but I'm grateful for it

It feels good to write music without it having to be perceived about his public relationships. He can't share all the stories still though, they are too complicated. There are mistakes he regrets but he can still feel gratefulness amongst it all.

Things change and I'm okay with what I'm not

It feels wasteful to be hateful

I'll be grateful for what I got

There has been so much pain in his life. He could choose to be angry and hateful but that feels wasteful. He chooses to reframe and focus on what he has, who he is and be grateful. There is huge maturity and emotional intelligence going on here. 

These days I'm needin' no restriction (For you)

Just as always Zayn finds a subtle sweet way to bring his person, his love into the narrative of the lyrics. These days I'm needing no restrictions for you. For you! Perhaps this refers to no longer needing the restriction of a bearing/pr relationships to cover his for you. He sounds like he feels more free. He's focussed on gratitude. 

The Time

Yesterday just came and went

And if today I wake up late, I won't forgive myself

’Cause time's running its own game

And I've rolled the dice too many times in my head

Huge changes as mentioned in perspective and growth as a person. He is reframing life, he values time, he doesn't want to waste time anymore. He's wasted time in the past being angry, being focussed on pain or other challenges. Its not for him now. Something significant happened that challenged his perspective too.

Never fell for the fame thing

They fell in love with the same things

Let me know when the rain ends

See all I need is you

Ain’t it special? Ain't it precious?

The time that we have

When I'm laid in your bed and you tell me you lovе me

Bringing his person, his love into the story with him, as he ALWAYS has across 4 albums. He and his person never fell for the fame thing. His person is in the industry too. That's pretty clear here, right. He and his person fell in love with the same things. Again seems clear, they both fell in love with music. Music is the thing they love and what they wanted to do in life. Fame came with it but they didn't really want to play that game. I'll fight anyone who can't see this isn't about Liam. Who else, honestly? All he needs is his person, his love. Its the best thing they both got from the fame and music. They got each other, as teenage boys and god damn that really is SO special and precious. So rare and unique. The time they have is everything, it means more than the fame and music and all the bullshit they have had to go through to be together. Time is all that matters, it is everything. When they lay in bed together, when they say I love you, he's making it clear it's an intimate setting, yet so normal and usual for them. Those are the moments that matter most not fame or music.

Colours back in all my days

Build the structure, lеt it break

As long as it's good for your brain

Lessons learned is what I've gained

Feedin' families, forget the fame

I'm doing it now for a second name

His person, his love brings all the colour into his life. I mean beautiful, they bring him joy and happiness. There's also queerness here, a number of closeted artists talk in lyrics about it being grey and searching for colour or the rainbow. He has his rainbow. They've built a life together, structures, a home, routine. Simple life, relationship things. Whatever is good for them, doesn't matter what it is. Its away from the fame. Feeding families, they are a family and they support their own families, these are benefits from the fame, they focus on. Doing it for a second name. Obviously a stunt line, you have to expect them but in context of the song and the rest of it using they to reflect his partner, it can be more true that he's referring to his partners second name.

And I could cry when you tell me that you love me

When you're doing things you shouldn’t be

And I lie for you

And I could cry when you tell me that you love me

And I'd die for you if you asked me to

This bridge, I was crying before Liam passed just the absolute love and devotion that you would die if the person asked you too. And no this line is not about his daughter, his daughter at 2 or 3 is not doing things they shouldn't and him lying for her. There is some insight here for me that perhaps this refers to Liam's addiction issues. That Zayn is fighting for, fighting with his partner, time is everything. They've been close to the edge of life and loss. That's the feeling here for me. And I feel that because I've been going through cancer the last few years, on the edge of my own mortality. Facing that fear. How time is the greatest value in life. How time with my daughter means more than anything. How every second of time spent in the most simplest and intimate ways with her is so fucking precious and special. And when I think of Zayn writing this song and still having Liam after whatever happened on that edge of life. To truly understand the value of time in life, it's a different way of understanding, of knowing when you've truly faced it on the edge of life. That's what I feel in the song, in many parts of the entire album. It resonates so deeply for me. To then lose him afterall. It is devastating. It makes me deeply worried if Zayn can find his way in life without Liam. I hope he can, I hope he can focus in on the same things he focuses on in this album. I hope he can find it in him to write for Liam. I hope the tour gives him something forward focussed. 

[yaz-the-spaz]

I have a new second favorite Zayn and here's reasons #1-∞ why...

first off, for anyone who may have missed it liam participated in Soccer Aid this week and made a new friend with an old name. enter tiktoker & youtuber zaynqf, who makes football content but was clearly fangirling over liam (much like another zayn we know lmao) 😆

...BUT things really popped off when zayn(qf) made a post including a caption with a punny joke about himself and liam (included in the screenshots below)

as they do, fans reacted and the result was...interesting 😏

and then just to make sure what was seemingly being implied by zayn(qf) was crystal clear someone else followed up and...

THEN as if to double down on his chaotic and downright egregious behavior (sir! we were not prepared!) AND add fuel to the already deliciously burning fire, he proceeded to view (and even like) posts from other ziams' stories

there may be even more of these, i'm not sure, but these are just the ones i happened to see (if people have screenshots of more of him creeping on ziam posts please do feel free to send them in so i can add them to this post lol!)

anyways, in conclusion, I have a new second favorite zayn and now you all do too. let's welcome our new surrogate captain of this beautiful ship warmly! 😜🏳️‍🌈

[louuthesunflower]

Happy 25/04 Ziam anniversary ❤️💛

[douxnoire2025]

This whole entire interview was them flirting for no damn reason, other than the fact that they could

[tarnished-butsogrand]

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[notaboutafish]

If you want to prove that ziam isn’t real the best way to NOT prove that is to have them stunt immediately after an interaction.

[douxnoire2025]

My whole thing is this: This happened in front of an entire camera crew, who then kept it in the commercial that aired worldwide.

No one else is standing as close as they are together, because that’s just what Zayn and Liam do, disregard all personal space. Then Zayn takes it upon himself to rub Liam’s chest. With Modest breathing down their necks, I seriously doubt the director told Zee to do that.

He just did it. So the crew was A.) dense enough to think that was a friendly gesture, B.) oblivious enough not to notice, or C.) too done with them, because THIS was the LEAST sexual take of the bunch.

But either way we get Zayn plastered onto Liam’s back like a koala, rubbing his chest and nipples for the entirety of the free world to see.

Y’all do realize, that whether or not Ziam was or is official, that’s not a platonic gesture whatsoever. I’m not gonna just rub against someone’s chest that I’m not interested in or haven’t done something with. Most people wouldn’t. Let alone for an audience of millions.

And before anyone says anything about how they’ve all grabbed each other’s nipples and the like. THAT is not the same! There’s a playfulness with rest of them. This is just straight up ‘what can I get away’ with lust.

That’s for me the most Ziam-proving gif: In the last part Zayn knocks himself against Liam’s back. Ok, so far, but then, he slides his hand down Liam’s chest, over the nipples, and that’s… you just dont do that i an asexual way.

I do that, with my husband. Not with my brother or my friends or a sexy guy in a club. When Im drunk out of my mind and in a touchy mood, I might prod somebody’s muscles, on the upper arm, but not like that. At all.

It’s so… comfy and sort of familiar, what Zayn does.

[finally-im-home]

In Teardrops, Liam’s last released song ever, he was asking “Is there any room to love you?”

Soon after, Zayn gave us Room Under The Stairs.

I don’t know how else they could make a closeting metaphor clearer. All this while Liam was painted as a villain in someone else’s story.

Yes, we lost Liam way too soon, but he was already the bravest boy for holding out this long.

I agree with you Nonnie. They have been giving clear signals all these years, especially Liam. They communicate through lyrics, clothes and even through some cryptic Insta/Twitter posts. And not to forget random words (that we believe are lyrics of LP2) in his jeans that he wore during this Argentina visit. Just like you said, he's the bravest of all.

There are so many proofs I could show that confirms they were still together. Even if some people are reluctant to believe in Ziam and in extension that they're closeted, I want to ask how would they explain Liam making videos saying this is a stunt, that he doesn't want to do this and his opinions doesn't matter.

It's not about Ziam, nor is this about us shipping them, it's about so many innocent lives and how they're puppeteered for monetary benefits.

But Alas, people only listen what they want to listen.

I hope we get justice one day.

[mokomakin-lapamato]

Hello

I'm interested to know why you see Lilo as a platonic friendship and Ziam as a relationship? I do agree with you but then I've seen Lilo videos and sometimes I feel like there were times when they seemed more than friends, like Ziam.

Hi anon

I don't have any elaborate theories or proof for or against Lilo being more than friends. I'm just too busy atm to go down the rabbit hole of Lilo and to be completely honest I don't even want to look into it more. I kind of want to keep thinking about them as only friends because their friendship is so beautiful. They seem to be the only ones in 1D who stayed close friends after the hiatus.

I have had second thoughts about Ziam, too. Maybe their actions were misinterpreted or they were told to play up their bond for the shippers and they were just friends the whole time. And became estranged after Zayn left the band. Maybe they had a crush on each other but never acted on it. Maybe they had something but it didn't last. We may never know and I'm not going to lose sleep over it. If they want the world to know they will come out with the truth. Until that I'm going to live my life and focus on other things. My life is very chaotic and demanding right now so I have to prioritize my loved ones and my own sanity, lol.

Don't get me wrong, I think Ziam is cute and I used to hope they were together. But after watching a lot of Lilo content I feel bad for assuming the status of any of their relationships. They went through a unique experience together and were probably the only people for each other who they could fully trust. It would be hard to not become super comfortable, playful and affectionate in the circumstances they were in, so young and far away from their own families. And it's kind of sad that men can't be affectionate towards each other without being assumed gay.

Sorry, this answer is all over the place. It's more about my own feelings than cold hard facts. As it usually is the case in shipping, I think there's a lot of assumptions and interpretations and opinions but not many indisputable facts. I may continue this later when I have a clearer head but that may as well never happen so don't hold your breath, lol.

[louisisalarrie]

hii! as for your last text... I'm a new Larrie (for over a year) so I wasn't there when it all happen, but what I can understand why people say that.

First of all I want to say that, although I do believe that Larry is or has been real at some point, there are always many things that make me doubt about it, I can't help but my mind look for all possible explanations for what happens...

So I agree with what you said about why ziam didn't distance themselves and larry did, but this is the non-larry explanation that I have in my head: L and H when the ship started they followed the jokes, they themselves promoted it... (if I'm not wrong), so it's obvious that it didn't bother them, but then it starts to get bigger, and L starts dating Eleanor and H has his little relationships (dont know how to call them in english lol), let's say they were all real, and there are people who start to deny those relationships are true, and that, not only you, but also the people closest to you are all lying for you... So, the larry ship by itself may not have bothered them, but a lot of people overanalyzing every move and trying to prove with everything that those relationships are not real, it might be hard and hurting. So I think it would be understandable if they themselves, or perhaps management as well, decided to separate publicly trying to reduce the rumors. It doesn't mean that they had a fight or that they stopped being friends, just that they publicly tried to interact with each other as little as possible to relax things a bit...

idk, it's the non-larry explanation that I can think of, as I said I wasn't there so maybe I've said something wrong, and besides, english is not my first language so I may not have done the best job writing this. Anyways, I hope it makes sense.

And just to finish I wanted to say that you are my favorite acc here, especially because of the respect you always show for different opinions <3 bye!

Don’t apologise for your English!! This was done excellently and also you are far more clever than me who can only speak one language lol. Thank you for the kind words <3

This is the main theory that antis use against larry, but I’d argue that there is far more proof for larry being real than not. It just makes it look more suspicious if they did that, ya know? Ships have been around for ages and it’s like, the majority of the time people just play into it, like the other boys do, but larry very clearly didnt which just yeah… made it massively suspicious and we continued to get all this proof and bloody matching tattoos over the years, and they looked miserable and weird in every “relationship” they were in.

Everything was just so fake and I can’t accept any of those “girlfriends” were real relationships. Plus, Larries are a massive chunk of the 1d fandom, so if I was their manager wanting to make all the money I can, I’d be getting them to play into it and not shy away, personally. But they were far too obvious lol

[alarrytale]

Hi ziam here. I don’t believe either are dads. I’m just going to focus on Zayn right now since he’s the current topic of discusssion. His bbg was always a mess from the start, and there’s several things that would make me 🤨 if I knew nothing else about it. Gigi made the pregnancy announcement only 2 months after splitting up with her ex, Liam posted himself moonwalking to Billie Jean the day Gigi arrived in NYC to give birth, Gigi was posting ads for Zayns new album on her ig the same day she was supposedly in labor and giving birth. Zayns forgotten Khais real age on a number of occasions and sets unrealistic development goals on her like singing falsettos at age 3. Ziam is not as loud as Larry about their bbgs because they are just different people and both their bbgs were never setup to end from the beginning (unlike Louis’)

I don’t think either intend on ending things or ever have plans to come out, and that is why we see Zayn leaning hard into the daddy role. It’s all for their closet. I do wish people would research a bit more about them both before using Zayn as a metric for showing “good dad” behavior and comparing it to Louis as proof- and honestly that goes for any celebrity, lavender babies and bbgs are all over the industry and it’s a sad reality, some people are just better liars than others. Anyway, sorry for the long ask but Ziam shows more proof in their actions/reactions and clothing/tattoos (Zayn tattooing his whole body red is actually a big one for me) if you’re looking for it.

Hi, anon!

I'm not really interested in hearing arguments pro/against this and that when it comes to ziam. You can all believe what you want to. I don't want ziams fighting each other in my inbox. I'm more interested in the fandom dynamics and the different beliefs and narratives you ziams hold. I just find it super interesting that some think that they're not fathers, but they are lavender babies, and L and Z never plan to come out, while some are saying that every rainbow Liam posts is a scream from the closet, but that his kid is really his. It's totally opposite! Does that mean there are several fractions within fandom? Some of you are waiting for a coming out any day now, and some of you know they don't want to come out, ever?

[twopoppies]

Hi Gina, how are you?

Is it true that Liam and Zayn were also part of The bears? I've seen Ziammie using this as proof. But I always thought it was something exclusive to Louis and Harry.

IIRC were a couple of moments where there were red/yellow smiley face/sad face stickers. And I think there were a couple of things mixed into a couple of set ups that seemed like they might fit Zayn or Liam but the bears absolutely were NOT focused on Ziam even 10% of the time.

[yaz-the-spaz]

something that enrages me is the fact that some larries have 'ot5' in their bio but don't even give a fuck about other boys and just use them for 'larry proofs'. they talk about how fake & shitty the pr narratives of louis/harry are, but when it comes to zayn/ liam especially they just completely believe those shitty narratives... like??? they act like louis & harry are the only ones suffering on this planet. they just choose to not see any of the patterns and act all entitled and hypocritical.

‼️‼️‼️

and niall too, who unfortunately gets ignored by both sides of the fandom a lot of the time when it comes to his stunty/pr situations

but anyways you summed it up perfectly nonnie! like just admit you're really only here for your two white bread faves and stop pretending like you're all for ot5 when you're not. if you don't really care about the others then nbd but just be honest and stop the games and all the pretense.

like take me for example, I'm clear in my bio that I'm mostly here for ziam but I still love & support larry & niall, and I think my blog reflects that cause while I may post things from time to time to show love & support for them too they're just not necessarily a main feature/focus of my blog and I don't get why that's so hard for others to do like if you/your blog is allegedly ot5 then be about it and show it and if you're not then just be honest that you're really only here for hl

[redyellowberry]

As of Aug 2024 do you think Ziam are still together ??

Hey, thank you for question.

Yes, I do think they are still together but I have to say that I don’t follow closely what happens in the ziam fandom anymore so I can’t elaborate on that with the proofs that happened recently.

[indigogirled]

now why is zayn performing in wolverhampton …. ziam proof in the year 2024

[awesomefringey]

Hello Sabine! I have only recently (~half a year ago) joined this fandom, and I have a question regarding people around HL reacting to/speaking about Larries. From old posts I've seen, it used to happen a lot that their relatives or other people like Liam would speak really bad about Larries on SM, even way into the hiatus when they were not with Modest anymore. But ever since I joined, I have not seen one single interaction like that, but more rather things like Gemma's recent story, which seems like they are now even giving subtle hints (of course we don't know if it's meant like that). Do you have an estimate when it was that the Larrie thrashing stopped? Or can you give me a recommendation who on Tumblr would have documented stuff like this and would know? Thanks a lot!! :-)

Welcome to the hell hole, nonnie! 😄💜

I didn’t track all the times people have denied Larry or talked shit about Larries. But it’s fair to say over the course of 1D and beyond, Larries have always been an easy target.

Gemma called people/larries in the comment section of her IG ‘mental’ at some point because they kept flooding her posts about Larry proof. And last year, she debunked old tweets as fake. But I wouldn’t call either Larry denials per se. She just pushed back on Larries quite a bit especially when she was used to back up any theories, which is absolutely fair. See a wonderful and enlightening comment on her motivation here.

Of course, Zayn’s Larry/Ziam denial, and him accusing fans for forcing Larry to show no affection, which was back in 2015.

I remember Liam denying Larry when he was asked by a fan a few years back. I mean, what do people expect him to say? 🤦🏼‍♀️

And well, in 2017, Louis’ “there’s genuinely seriously obviously no truth to it” when asked about the Larry organisation and I couldn’t have asked for a better Larry denial. 😂

Maybe Lou Teasdale was the last one to cackle about Larries during a podcast episode she was invited to back in 2020. Her and Eleanor’s IG and snapchats were involved in a Larrie investigation after Louis’ and Harry’s voice could be heard in the background. I bet she’s never had that much interest in her account before but with the podcast she made sure, people were reminded that she was an idiot.

But beyond that - I don’t know… 🤔

@skepticalarrie @daisiesonafield-blog @twopoppies Do you have tags for Larry denials tags for this nonnie?