#ygs are haters

[rainbowfartblaster]

every tongue that rises against jayce talis shall FALL.

[icarianlibrary]

I actually love the ACA/ Anti-Climatic-Artists (My main online friendgroup) SO MUCH. We started as an art group, and now we RARELY talk abt art, it's just more jokes and updates and I would love it either way. They've been there through 7th grade (My emo phase ygs, NO ONE wanted to be around me in 7th grade), and now I'm going in 9th. They are literally such a great group of friends that is so f-king diverse and funny. I love ygs </333 @strawberry----lemonade

[bubmyg]

getting excited bc i finally saw a best kpop dancers list w soonyoung on it but immediately discarding it bc op had entirely sm idols otherwise

[milksnake-tea]

Dunno if you've ever answered an ask like this before, but do you mind telling us about your mutuals?

Rather, their writing styles and how they interact (No pressure if this sounds like I'm intruding on a boundary or something, I've noticed that you reblog a lot of works and I'm trying to find more fic writers from HSR and Genshin to support, but sometimes it feels a little scary 😅)

HELP NO IT'S OKAY !!! no fear in asking, we love people like you <333 these are mainly the mutuals that i've read fics from so that i can actually tell you how they write but still. THIS IS GOING TO BE A LONG ONE STRAP IN FOLKS. if i forgot ygs im sorry oops... also sorry for the tag COUGHS (esp to the ppl i keep tagging when i get asked abt my moots BYE kawa skip mhie naru ren im so sorry i love you i swear)

@generalsmemories

NARU !!! ONE OF MY FIRST EVER HSR MOOTS AND ONE OF THE WRITERS I LOOK UP TO THE MOST. her writing style is very scenic?? if i were to describe it, it's very dreamy and whimsical and it's like reading a fantasy book. very descriptive but not so descriptive that you're eating fancy words. she's jing yuan centric but occasionally writes for others such as dan heng and sunday! she's honestly very very silly when it comes to interaction, like in an older sister way <33 she talks like an aesthetic if that makes sense

@inarvii

skip has a very elegant feel to her writing like LORD. it's giving noble/fantasy thriller enemies to lovers but in a writing style i love her prose and how she really makes you feel the vibe of a scene. she's really kind and sweet, gives older sister vibes lowkey

@k9wa

kawa is like me but x497842389 cooler and with a lot better grasp on characters. you want proper characterization? you want big brain ideas? GO TO HIM. his writing feels theatric, like a movie or a play. it's so descriptive and he does an amazing job at describing action and characters and GRGRGRGR

@luvether

lord i dont know if its okay to tag you but uhm. hi waves hand 😭😭 honestly i haven't interacted w kou much but from what i can tell she's really nice!! BUT I HAVE READ HER WRITING. AND LAWRD. her writing feels like little snapshots of life, you feel like you're actually like. THERE. she always has the biggest brain of ideas i swear and i highly recommend her writing. mostly fluff with a touch of angst, one of my favorites fr !!

@emiken-070907

hi emi. bet you didn't expect to get tagged here huh. but you have one hsr fic and that's enough for me to slap you onto here and promo you (it's on ao3 and it's not an x reader, but it is a tragedy yanqing timeskip!!! i beta read for that btw flips hair (i still need to edit im so sorry emi please)). as for interaction, she is silly asf. TO ME PERSONALLY? shes like the ratty little sibling that you want to throw out the window but would also kill for. has great vibes over all, she's so sweet but sometimes shes a lil shit so. yeah. idk how she acts to followers but she is like that to ME. but she is full of whimsy and glee so there's that

@rainswept

edgar allan poe incarnate over here??? HELLO??? crow is. her writing is RAW. like okay this is going to get a bit gorey but they write like a freshly opened wound, it's vulnerable, it's poetic, it's pure imagery and i LOVE it. also another goofy moot. i think like just attracts like atp

@tragedy-of-commons

gwen is an absolute SWEETHEART. very silly. BUT THEY'RE SO SWEET. her writing is literally sunlight put into literary terms, if that makes sense. it's warm, comfy, and cozy (except when she kills you in the arms of your favorite character. which she has done) and i highly recommend her writing for a comfy read <3

@iceunhie

mhie is a HATER OF THE HIGHEST ORDER jk i love her she just bullies me GOODBYE 😭 mhie gives off older sister vibes, a lot of people (including me HELP) see her as intimidating but she's really sweet once you get to know her. or she calls you milk. who knows. ANYWAYS genuinely one of the people i look up to most, she always gives amazing feedback on writing and her own writing??? the prose??? she's a master at it. knows how to really elevate a piece and it's just really easy on the eyes. she's also a research writer, her jiaoqiu fic utilizes chinese proverbs and terminology and i think that's really neat <3

@st6rly

hi bottom beta. okay wait sorry you have a reputation i forgot ANYWAYS. SOL IS SUCH A SILLY GOOSE. i love him. BUT HE IS SO GOOFY AND I MEAN THAT IN A POSITIVE WAY. i haven't read that much about what sol writes unfortunately since i'm no longer interested in genshin that much 😭😭 but i've heard good things !! definitely someone you wanna check out if you like good vibes :D

@lowkeyren

ren my pookiebear my LORD !!! resident aquila favonia haver (she has like 21 as of right now) and she serves every time she writes. always gets slapped onto my rec list because she's one of the few writers that genuinely have me kicking and giggling 😭 really cute, really tension filled, one of my favorite authors :))

@scribs-dibs

SUNNIII true to his name his writing feels just so warm and light, like a slice of life anime. very relaxing reads, at least from what i've seen !! very warm, really really cute <33 like the main one that ive read from him is that alhaitham jealousy fic and??? the characterization was ON POINT. i loved it so much (the switch up made me laugh) as for personality. HES FUNNY. LIKE HES STRAIGHT UP HILARIOUS I LOVE HIM GO CHECK HIM OUT I SWEAR ITS WORTH IT

@akutasoda

q has a very pretty vibe if that makes sense, i haven't read much from them but i can definitely say that their writing style is beautiful, like a meadow full of flowers or a quiet stream. they've always been kind to me in that sort of older sibling way, and they're someone that i would trust as an emergency contact. lots of genshin and hsr from what i've seen on my dash, so definitely go check them out!

@aviiarie

avery's on the more reserved side, at least from my point of view, or maybe that's because when i first met them they had a ferminet pfp. they're pretty chill and casual, and can i just say? their writing is very easy to read, it has great flow and i can just lose myself in the fic. like i don't see the words i see what the words are saying, if that makes sense. avery also focuses on platonic writing, although they have been writing some romance with furina!! my personal favorite work of theirs was that fic of arlecchino comforting her crying child because it made me feel so much better about my life at 9 am when i just woke up.

@vynicity

FELICITYYYY she's a mutual in my heart even tho apparently tumblr thinks i dont follow her. but i do. ANYWAYS. another person that i consider on the more reserved side, but she's been fun whenever we talked. can i just say. SHE IS SO GOOD AT WRITING AVENTURINE. there's this one fic down the line about him being drunk??? i think??? and I ATE THAT UP because the tension and atmosphere that she managed to create. just magnificent. she has an aventurine series up right now iirc (i still need to read the new chapter im so sorry feli) and the prologue was. a roller coaster so definitely go check her out!

@vxnuslogy

vee is literally bursting with ideas and by god does she put them to use. i always see them brainrotting or thinking of new ideas or things to write, literally one of the most creative people ive met. can be a little silly, but still a sweetheart <33 her writing is more formal than what i'm used to i'll admit, but still a delight to read nevertheless <33 very descriptive is how i'd describe it, like it feels like she's looking at the scene as shes writing it

@ughscara

ayame is like. the sweetest person i have ever met. like ill be here being a little shit and she'll still be an absolute sweetheart I ALMOST FEEL BAD BECAUSE SHE HAS TO DEAL WITH MY ASS BYE 😭😭 i just recently reblogged one of her works and it straight up feels like it came out of a fairytale, it was so light and sweet <33

[starryjkoo]

If Jungkook went on live and asked toxic fans to stop harassing Jimin I already know exactly the kinds of comments we would be seeing in response -

“the company is forcing JK to say that to protect the company fave” *10k JM company fave posts* *random slurs, animal names, and bongo tweets* “look at how the company is shielding Jimin solos again” “notice how none of the other members are telling their solos to leave JK alone, JK is the only member who cares, the rest of the members don’t care about him, #JKleaveBTS #BTSdisband” “JK is only saying that because he has a kind heart, but I don’t have to be kind like JK, I’m going to protect him by going after the leeches who are trying to take advantage of him”

And then you would see a thousand posts from his solos/diets complaining about why JM hasn’t called out his own toxic fans, saying that he’s a terrible person who approves of PJMs harassing JK (and tkkrs and other solos would join in and pile on adding how JM doesn't care about the hate that TH/YG/other members receive from PJMs either). And definitely some PJMs would play into it and gloat about JK hating his fans but JM loving PJMs or something. It would be a whole mess, and for what?

JK asking fans to stop going to his house and to stop sending things didn’t work, JK saying artists are innocent didn’t even stop some ARMYs from talking about nwjn's a certain way (I don’t mean simply disagreeing with him, I mean some ARMYs outright dismissing his words and being condescending towards him about it, some were even resentful and leaving rude messages on his IG).

Pretty sure that solos/tkkrs would find a way to twist it to be even more hateful and unhinged towards JM. I mean tkkrs quite literally came up with a whole conspiracy theory so they could twist and dismiss anything they don’t like in BTS content (company forced fanservice ship, tkk hidden couple) and they include weverse lives in this now. How do you even combat that?

The people who want to believe a certain narrative will just twist whatever they want, dismiss whatever words and actions they don’t like to suit whatever narrative they want to push. Anyone who thinks that JK doesn’t like JM (and vice versa) is already extremely biased and irrational, you can’t really reason with that. JK has already done and said x100000000 things that contradict those narratives and they still just ignore it, and his haters never give him credit for it and expect him to do more. Not to mention people like that do not respect or care about JK in the first place, they just want something from him - to live vicariously through him, possess or own him, use him for whatever fantasy.

I mean sometimes I do want (all of) them to address toxic fans and I wonder why they haven’t, but I can also sort of see how it wouldn’t really change much and tbh I just assume that the seven of them have probably talked about this and have some mutual understanding on how they decide to handle it. And like I said JK asking his fans to leave Jimin alone would just result in another unhinged response from those groups of people and JM would be expected to also immediately make a statement or be painted as a terrible person who doesn’t care about JK getting harassed either.

This discourse is really tired and it’s sad the kind of expectations people place on JK about all of this, not even just to call out antis but never being allowed to tease or joke around, being blamed when antis twist his words, having the burden to prove that he doesn't hate his bandmates for some reason placed on his shoulders (even though he HAS proved that, they just don't listen to him). I expect it from solos, but every now and then I have seen some jikooker's also be weird to him about it and it's just really frustrating. Most people I see have just been celebrating and enjoying his live though!! Sorry for the negativity but I wanted to say something too because I can literally picture EXACTLY the kind of things they would be saying and no doubt it would just be another fandom headache.

[pinkshaus]

୨♡୧ . 𝗺𝗼𝘀𝘁 𝗽𝗼𝗽𝘂𝗹𝗮𝗿 𝗮𝗿𝘁𝗶𝗰𝗹𝗲𝘀 !

WARNING ... company manipulation + nepotism.

( 🐝 )  ⸻ #𝗛𝗢𝗡𝗘𝗬 𝗻𝗲𝘄 𝗽𝗼𝘀𝘁 !

HONEY of  BLACKPINK  was  a  relatively  scandal-free  idol,  with  the  only  articles  posted  about  her  being  whatever  KNETS could  make  up  about  her  to  spin  their  hate.  it  wasn't  until  WINTER 2023,  when  she  started  to  make  noise  about  her  mistreatment  at  YG ENTERTAINMENT,  the  articles  started  to  roll  in.  at  first,  it  was  light-hearted  articles  about  HONEY'S clap  back  to  haters,  but  when  the  #HONEY-GATE  scandals  started  rolling  in,  it  was  obvious  that  YG was  no  longer  paying  people  to  stay  quiet.  #HONEY-GATE  refers  to  the  series  of  nasty  articles  that  occurred  after  the  public  found  out  HONEY  is  the  daughter  a  part  of  the  MOON and  SUN conglomerate.  despite  the  nasty  things  people  say  about  HONEY,  she  refused  to  be  silenced  and  loves  the  popularity  she  has  recently  gained !!

[sillyyuserr]

i am no hater or at least i don’t like to be, but do you (aoikane/aoiaoi shippers) actually know peace? Do i just happen to stumble upon the mean ones everytime or are ygs genuinely just so hateful? Please i don’t mean to be mean but like do you genuinely exist? No joke every time i have interacted with an aoikane/aoiaoi shipper they have been so mean and aggressive towards terukane or any other alternative ship including either aoi or akane. Not even just interactions but viewing you like in action and YOU interacting with OTHER aoikane/aoiaoi shipping people has made me like lose hope in the world. The main reason i come to hate ships is not because of the characters (sometimes) but mostly because of the people who ship them themselves. I mean for example I would die to see Nene and Hanako get together hell yeah but that’s mostly because theres no homophobia lingering around them?? Not only is there no queer subjects or matters involving either characters but the main crowd of tbhk fans just enjoy it above all else don’t get mad at anyone for shipping any one of them with anyone else because they know damn well its so clearly established and loved by everyone they don’t need to worry about it ever becoming something it’s not.

i would be so down to say like ‘oh thats so cute akane loves aoi’ if you didn’t harbor so much unwarranted anger towards us?? What happened to being respectful?? (And it might just be the homophobic ones i’m not sure.)

Like touching back on what i said about Hananene was that for example there is no queer subjects/matter involving either of them, however there is with aoikane (debatably). For example (again damn) there is arguable evidence suggesting another male character has romantic interest in him. Which of course does not make him HIMSELF queer, but it does involve him in such an agenda (?).

there is a difference between a good way to handle this, and a bad way to. For example, you are a good/unproblematic Aoikane supporter if you:

Acknowledge that either one character is associated with homosexuality and that one character is the sole supporter of the idea, and realize that homosexuality can infact coexist with your favorite ship (one sided)

Acknowledge that aoiaoi has a few elements to it that make some uncomfortable, and allow others to respectfully disagree with you

You are a bad/problematic Aoikane supporter if you:

Deny the possible idea of either one character being associated with homosexuality and deny/act on aggression towards it

Deny aoiaoi’s initial or ‘current’(?) toxicity

And someone who will straight up deny that aoiaoi had something wrong with it in the first place is someone you do not wanna be. It is important to understand that aoiaoi is a semi problematic ship, and i’m not saying this ‘because I’m biased’ i’m saying this because (i think) it’s true. At the beginning and even some aspects of now, aoiaoi was a very unhealthy + toxic relationship/ship, hence why a lot of people hated it, and it’s okay to say things like ‘omg i love how aoiaoi’s coming back yess!!’ But to say things that make it sound like aoiaoi was perfect all along and people who disliked it were ignorant or ‘straightphobic’ is just stupid.

Please just be nice guys cmon😭 i have never in my life seen aoiaoi/aoikane shippers JUST TALK about said ship always finding way to bond ab their hatred for terukane (subconscious homophobia or purposeful, we’ll never know)

anyway guys stay positive!!!! xxxx

[reflectionlike]

Seeing Taehyung stans desperately try to make him looks as successful as Jimin is just so funny to me. They spent years trying to convive everyone that Taehyung was the most popular BTS member and that Jimin was at best the third, but not even a close third. So seeing them have reality brutally slapped in their faces is so vindicating.

It was already great last year with Like Crazy, specially when Jimin debuted first so we all got to see their hubris in so confidently claiming Taehyung was gonna release a song that was even bigger (and definitely self-written), only to have that not be even close to what actually ended up happening. But it's even better this year, because Fri(end)s is doing worse than Love Me Again while Who is doing even better than Like Crazy, so the gap between just keeps getting bigger.

We're now at a point where no one aside from his delusional fans and Jimin haters would seriously try to say he is more successful than Jimin. Is now common knowledge that BTS is Jimin, Jungkook and the rest. We're finally back to how things should be and how they 𝘶𝘴𝘦𝘥 to be. Because this 'Taehyung is first, Jimin is third' narrative only started to take hold in the pandemic, before that Jimin was THEE guy and everybody knew it. So I'm glad Taehyung's stans gaslighting has finally stopped working and people are seeing the light again.

Even his stans are lowkey agreeing he's now third with the way they've joined in the hyungline victimization. You can't say armys only really care about Jimin and Jungkook and care about Taehyung as much as they care about hyungline (which as we know is not a whole lot), and then say he's the most popular. Because popular with who exactly? If they say he's not popular with armys than with who is he popluar with? With k-pop stans who are known to only token stan idols online but never show up when it's actually important (like with actually streaming and buying that idol's music)? With his solos, when we know they're not as big as us and I've even seen kths complain to each other about how much better pjms are at getting shit done? So where and with which audience exactly is he popular?

Well, we all know the answer. Is on SEA shipping-obsessed countries (specially Thailand, they carry him hard). And the audience is visual stans and shippers, which is why people got tricked into thinking he was the most popular, because that audience could give the most views on famcans and followers on Instagram, which before solo era was the way to measure popularity. But now the way to measure popularity it is with solo music, which if anyone were to look at how things have 𝘢𝘭𝘸𝘢𝘺𝘴 been (even before the group's hiatus) they would see Jimin and Jungkook have always done better with solo music.

Jimin would actually almost always have the most popular song whenever all the members would released a song at the same time. That only started changing when those songs stopped being released in equal situations and Jungkook started his painfully-generic-pop-english-western-collab obssession he won't stop torturing us all with.

So Taehyung fans should really have seen this coming and accepted his place as the actual third most popular BTS member. But, as we all know, his stans (the number one shippers of k-pop) live off delusion, so they were never going to have acted any different. They're doomed to always keep convincing themselves of easily disprovable lies and then be secretly disappointed but publicly forced to pretend they're aren't when those lies inevitably become to obviously false to be ignored.

You know what? Go OFF

I agree with almost everything you said, except for the fact that how “things used to be” were very different for Jungkook back then. JK began to gain momentum in approximately 2018ish, 2019, at least from my POV. You know who was very popular? (obvs not Jimin levels, but) YG, I swear everyone was biasing YG back in 2016, 2017. What happened?

But Th case needs to be studied because he really plummet, and there are certain theories about him losing fans because of Taennie and also people not liking his music but I am pretty sure there’s more than that.

[divinesangel]

k-pop tarot masterlist (pt. 1)

— bts jungkook and his fs' energy jungkook's current energy what are bts' fs busy with right now? jungkook's envisioned vs. real future when will bts get married? how bts sees newjeans what will jungkook like about his fs physically? taehyung's ideal type jimin energy jungkook as a bf obstacles between jungkook and his fs taehyung's energy is jungkook the type to pop the question early in the relationship? will namjoon get his license? how does bts and blackpink see each other? is it likely for jungkook to get another dog? why was jungkook mixtape taking long? what makes jk decide to want to marry his fs would jungkook get a tattoo dedicated to his spouse? did yg or hybe plan the whole jennie and taehyung situation? what happened between jimin and jeongyeon? will lisa and taehyung work together in the future? what does lisa think of taehyung? jimin channeled message to his fs are rosé and jungkook friends? how did jungkook feel about the success of his debut song? jungkook's opinion on scooter braun? is jungkook dating someone? has jungkook thought of buying real estate in the US? does jungkook and his fs have anything in common? update on jennie and taehyung jennie and jungkook

— itzy i.n and yuna's connection the boyz' juyeon and ryujin yuna and felix will ryujin act in 2023? how does jyp view itzy, their music direction, and will he give them more age appropriate songs? itzy's health lia's current situation

— newjeans newjeans's current energy + guidance how do newjeans feel about min heejin and the scandal? how do blackpink and newjeans see each other? how newjeans and le sserafim see each other haerin as a friend minji and hanni dynamic newjeans feelings towards the hybe and ador situation

— twice twice's jeongyeon current energy what do twice members think of jihyo what happened between jimin and jeongyeon? sana's current and future energy jihyo solo debut nayeon and sana friendship twice's momo career jeongyeon career jihyo and daniel kang twice's health

— blackpink jennie's energy is jennie aware about her concert stages? jennie and rosé how do blackpink and new jeans see each other? will lisa have another solo album? rosé's energy what idols think of blackpink do the members see people shipping them with others? did lisa and rosé really fight? why? rosé as a girlfriend mtl to tell of haters in bp blackpink energy check up how does blackpink and bts see each other? did yg or hybe plan the whole jennie and taehyung situation? how does bp view teddy, bekuh boom and yg? jennie's energy will lisa and taehyung work together in the future? what does lisa think of taehyung? did the weeknd and jennie have a thing? are rosé and jungkook friends? is there any chance jennie will get back together with kai? jennie and lisa's friendship jisoo and ahn bohyun will blackpink stay as a group? what will jennie solo comeback be like? lisa and park bogum's relationship will rosé and jacob elordi meet again? friends? jennie and camila collab jungkook's and rosé connection update on jennie and taehyung jennie and g-dragon: were the rumors true? jennie and jungkook is jennie friends with the seventeen members? peso pluma's thoughts on blackpink update on lisa and frederic mingyu and lisa is rosé friends with the actor kim jae wook? are rosé and eunwoo dating? will bp do more activities besides online fanmeetings? reactions to lisa's rockstar jennie's upcoming solo release will a girl group ever surpass blackpink in the future?

[cha-ra-nui]

2024 Retrospective

Part 1: KPop is dead and HYBE killed it

KPop in 2024 has been. Nothing. One giant pile of nothing. Now, that might sound unnecessarily mean even by my standards, so let me explain. I did not feel like a single release this year mattered. Very few were any good, and there wasn’t a single one that felt like it would be remembered in a years’ time. I hated “Next Level” when it came out, but even then, I knew it would leave a mark. NewJeans, IVE, and Le Sserafim made a giant splash with their debuts, for better and worse. TWICE used to have more dedicated haters than fans when they were rookies but no matter your opinion on them at the time, you couldn’t escape their songs. You knew who they were, and you knew the chorus of “TT” whether you wanted to or not. And 2024 had none of that. No debut you absolutely had to check out, no unstoppable mega hit, not even a hidden gem for the dedicated fandom to obsess over, like how every 2nd gen fan would let you know how much they enjoyed Infinite’s “Time Difference” last year.

If I restrained myself to only the releases that I liked or that I felt mattered, like I did last year, I would barely have a KPop segment at all. Worse than that, it would feel like lying. Because that just wasn’t my experience with KPop this year. And besides, what even matters right now? HYBE, SM, JYP, and YG all have rookies, several each even, but none of them have an impact. How could they, if all of them are just recycling what their label did before? So, I guess this is where I’ll start, the utter lack of distinct identity 4th (5th?) gen groups suffer from. And where better to examine that issue than the biggest player in the game?

While has SM has been notoriously bad at setting their groups apart in recent years, it’s almost comical how inept HYBE is at it. So inept in fact that they had to deal with plagiarism accusations from within their own cooperation, which is, objectively, hilarious.

Even if plagiarism is not legally applicable here, and it’s not, ILLIT is a blatant attempt at recreating NewJeans. Doesn’t help that “Magnetic” isn’t remotely as memorable as any of NewJeans’ early singles, and that the visual presentation of this group isn’t either. The first time I watched the MV I didn’t notice it was hosted on the HYBE channel, and I just assumed this was some cheap rip off by a nugu label with no better ideas. It’s that bland. There is no way in hell this would be a hit without HYBE behind it, even in a year as devoid of hits as this one. A catchy chorus can’t hide just how utterly devoid of creativity this debut is. “Cherish (My Love)” looks a bit less like NewJeans, but it doesn’t look unique either and still sounds like NewJeans at their blandest, so what is the point? Now, they’re rookies, and we’ve seen plenty of groups find a unique identity a couple of comebacks down the line, VIXX and Dreamcatcher immediately come to mind. But usually, the problem is a small label failing to stand out against bigger competitors, and not the biggest label in the industry copying the homework of one of its subsidiaries multiple times over.

And it’s not just an issue that plaques ILLIT, TWS isn’t faring much better. Making a group’s entire concept “boys next door” when you just debuted a group with that name isn’t exactly peak creativity, especially not when that is the same concept both SM rookie boy groups promote with as well. TWS certainly had the strongest debut of HYBE’s now three and counting attempts at remaking NewJeans. They’re under Pledis, and if there’s one thing Pledis was always good at it’s debuting groups. Both their debut MVs are charming and cohesive. If you’re looking for a rookie boy group who’re going for the “cute boy next door” appeal, this is about as well as 4th gen has ever managed to pull this off. The problem is that this niche has been filled ten times over, and their labelmates who’re barely a year their seniors are even named after it.

Speaking of which, BOYNEXTDOOR has shown some signs of developing an identity in form of their connection to Block B with “Earth, Wind & Fire”, and I for one would love to see a group take up that mantle. KPop needs outliers like Block B, so just let Zico run wild with this group and see what happens. What’s the point in letting him produce a group for you if you don’t? If BOYNEXTDOOR gets to be the weird and fun one, that’s an identity no big group has a claim to right now, and most importantly, none of HYBE’s own groups have. Of course that is not what happened, and both “Dangerous” and “Nice Guy” are what I imagine you’d get if early NCT Dream was produced by HYBE. The concept seems to be “boys next door” in the most “teenagers are entitled assholes” interpretation of the phrase. Did no one look up what “nice guy” means, or did they intend to come across as pathetically misogynistic?

And the real kicker is, if HYBE wanted a boy group to fill that niche, they already had the biggest one there was. In that context, it becomes even more baffling how much Seventeen had their identity erased. I watch the “Maestro” MV and all I can think about is how derivative of ATEEZ it is, while their label is scrambling to put together a halfway functioning version of the concept this group used to be the pinnacle of.  

And this is where HYBE’s other big problem comes in: the songs just aren’t well produced. Even if they could distinguish their groups conceptually, they’d still fall apart because the songs don’t carry their weight.

TXT was the most obvious victim of that this year. Both “Deja vu” and “Over The Moon” are the type of songs that want to sound musically complex, the type of releases that pretend to be high art but can’t back it up. The production is too thin, too obvious, too safe. Conceptually, TXT is making exactly the type of dramatic songs I loved that 2nd to 3rd gen transition period for, but it falls flat every single time because they do not have the production quality behind them that made these releases work a decade ago. If you want to make pop music that isn’t carried by a fun beat you need to make it interesting, and HYBE doesn’t seem capable of doing so.

Le Sserafim’s “Easy” is the closest they’ve gotten to making a slower song work, and that still has a beat, it’s just a bit more chill than your usual dance songs. And Le Sserafim too hasn’t gotten much to work with apart from that one song. The EP is bland and underwritten, and listening to “Crazy” repeatedly to get past its superficial weirdness only reveals how empty the song is.

That leaves one last HYBE group. ENHYPEN still gets the best songs in this cooperation, but that has become an incredibly low bar. “XO (Only If You Say Yes)” for example is a borderline unlistenable abomination. But at least their album sounded like some effort was put into the B-sides. “Brought The Heat Back” is an infinitely better song than the title track, “Teeth” is a bop only let down by a bridge that refuses to grow on me, and according to KPop tradition any song called “Lucifer” has to be good. The problem with ENHYPEN remains their lack of a strong vocal line, as per usual for HYBE too. But, as many groups have done before them, weak vocals can be overcome by strong production and smart songwriting that considers the limits of the performers, both of which ENHYPEN repeatedly had. Most importantly though, ENHYPEN has a recognizable identity as a group. Less so now than they had as rookies, but still more so than any of their labelmates have right now.

And you might’ve noticed that for all the focus on how HYBE is trying to recreate NewJeans, I never actually said anything about the group itself. Because I can’t. Their songs this year have been so bland that I can’t recall a single one of them. I also called ENHYPEN the last HYBE group, because NewJeans aren’t under contract with HYBE anymore.

And that really shows what HYBE’s priorities are better than anything. They scrambled to copy NewJeans’ success instead of focusing on making that success long term for NewJeans itself. And then they fought out their internal leadership disputes on the backs of five teenagers they were legally obligated to protect. And while this is an ongoing situation, it seems undisputable for now that HYBE failed to make these kids feel safe and respected, and it’s easy to believe the girls’ story because it aligns so well with HYBE’s outward behavior.

So, why spend so much time on HYBE if I dislike almost everything they touched this year? It’s because they’re emblematic for every issue I have with KPop right now. As the biggest label, they set the trends, and that includes all the issues that made KPop such an unrewarding genre to follow recently. The too short and unfinished songs, the lack of creative vision, the loss of group identities, the shotty productions, the shameless pandering to the American market at the expense of its own musical identity. Never before has KPop felt less like a music genre and more like a soulless product. Like Illumination and Disney HYBE realized they didn’t need to push boundaries or advance their craft to turn a profit if they could just churn out release after release with no passion for the art they’re selling. Their alleged mistreatment of NewJeans and their staff isn’t unique either, not by a long shot. It’s unhappy employees making shitty products in a shitty work environment for a shitty company. And if that doesn’t describe the KPop industry I don’t know what does.

But I’d like to think that at some point, something has to give. And while HYBE’s profits haven’t been affected yet, we’ve seen a shocking number of big girl groups underperform on the charts this year. It would certainly be interesting to hear an expert’s opinion on how that happened, from my perspective it’s not surprising at all. Streaming hits are only hits for as long as people want to listen to the song, and the songs just weren’t any good.

And there’s no better (and more shocking) example than IVE. English songs remained a stain on a group’s discography more often than not, and with the release of “All Night” IVE had two misses in a row. There’s nothing of the sledgehammer earworm factory this group was known to be left in “All Night”, it’s an aggressively mediocre and generic song without a strong hook, and it feels very inconsequential for it. And sadly, that seems to be the trend now. Neither “Heya” nor “Accendio” work either. They’re neither catchy nor interesting, and they failed so hard as title tracks that IVE finished the album cycle without a single music show win at a time where even a far less popular group like ONF managed to sneak a win in.

Inkigayo saved (G)I-DLE from a failure like that, but their singles too underperformed this year. And once again it’s not hard to see why. “Superlady” has strong verses that get held down by an underwritten chorus; they can’t even pick one pronunciation of “lady”, it’s distracting. And once again, (G)I-DLE has no idea how to end their songs. It’s the same story with most of their singles, a half-assed and very predictable breakdown during the last thirty seconds that doesn’t close the song in any meaningful way, nor does it build on what came before. And yet, this is one of the better girl group songs this year, and it was a hit at least. Their summer release “Klaxon” is the real problem. Congratulations (G)I-DLE, this is your worst single, ever. Even sitting through the first verse is a pain, and the reward for sticking with it is a truly horrible chorus I don’t even know where to begin to rip apart.

I could continue like that. Go through my exhaustive list of over 200 songs one by one and find all the groups that failed to live up to expectations this year. It would be pretty much everyone. All I remember about STAYC’ songs is that I hated every single one of them. TWICE is on a losing streak but I guess “Strategy” is fine. Fifty Fifty totally self-destructed and they didn’t even need awful songs to do it. ATEEZ had a fine but entirely forgettable year and that just strikes me as wrong. My list tells me that OH MY GIRL had a comeback, but the song is a blank space in my memory. Most of the LOONA remnants did no better (“Birth” is literally the only memorable release to come out of that entire meltdown), SAY MY NAME’s debut was a nothingburger, Billlie somehow became just as boring as the rest. And it’s not even like analyzing why the songs are bad is getting us anywhere here. Because it’s nothing new, and it’s the same for all of them: The songs are too short, sound unfinished, are incohesive, lack transitions, and don’t have more content than what you need to do make a TikTok. It’s a culmination of several trends that have been building in KPop for years, and at some point, something had to give.

[my-k-world-13-06]

Hi teddy bears I wanted to tell my honest opinion about Jennies solo “Mantra”.

I like the music, the chorus the rhythm…it’s all really interesting and new…BUT…honestly we always protected Lisa (look the trailer of her new album and you will understand) and Jennie because we thought YG is fault for making them wear revealing things but look now they changed company (THEIR OWN COMPANY) and they still wear this type of clothes….They BOTH disappointed me (and I think not only me…..We did so much to protect them from hater who called them “vulgar” and now they are showing us that haters were right in this topic (only this topic)…Anyways I am not hating on them Imlove them always no matter what mistakes they do

[spectrophobiia]

ygs don’t understand i’ve gone through and blocked so many silco haters because i can’t emotionally handle hearing anyone say anything bad about him

[youremyheaven]

jennies asc is kinda tough bc if she was born past 12pm that is actually exactly where she becomes a scorpio moon. i definitely don’t see her with a saturnian rising she looks too youthful but tbh i do see jennie as a purva phalguni asc (i feel rlly strongly that she is at least some type of venus nak rising) cause that would mean her chart ruler is her cap sun with mars aggravating and also mercury in the 6h and she has rlly weak health, also her haters r so..omg. And then her 7H would be venus in sb c pbp saturn, her relationships always get exposed and she got some of the worst worldwide hate from the public constantly as much as they r obsessed with her. she’s always shown in bed in editorials. her kinda eclectic style, she gives me rosalia, bella hadid pp vibes. her naturally stealing the spotlight lol. also “you and me” “solo” but honestly idk

My best bet is Purvaphalguni Rising as well, just based on vibessss, she's actually super Venusian coded. It could be both her Jupiter Moon + possible Venus rising but Jennie is veryyy good at brand building, she's naturally creative and super talented. She's responsible for all of her iconic looks and even her stage presence??? Sorry, nobody comes close to her. Wonyoung can do her expressions and go but she's not a performer the way Jennie is. If Jennie did not have her health issues (tbh idk the entirety of it, I think she also has severe anxiety which considering everything she's been thru makes sense and I am quite certain she endured major trauma at YG, more than the other members and a lot of people who have been abused develop chronic fatigue and brain fog so 😮‍💨- this is just a speculation and nothing more)

Jennie is also a natural leader and she just has this ✨aura✨of refinement. I feel like she struggles a lot because esp towards the end YG didn't even let her wear makeup cause she'd stand out too much. That's literally as Venusian as it gets. Being soooo outstanding that you're almost an outcast?? Venus women have it super tough. Bella has also lived a very difficult life. Also Jennie loves to party lol and that's extremely Purvaphalguni of her ,, the height of Venus, pleasure and indulgence. Even the fact that she's so comfortable doing an underwear ad despite the torrents of hate she gets is super Venusian woman basking in their sensuality.

[taehyungfirst]

https://www.tumblr.com/taehyungfirst/760066341363466240/on-top-of-my-head-tae-reacted-3x-time-since?source=share

absolutely not true. just because we don't look ( or see) for clues like that, doesn't mean we don't keep up to date. This is like getting into a conspiracy theory again and reminds me of tkkr logic. You don't want to accept it and end up in with your own confirmation bias.

There is plenty of tae fans that just do not care whom he is dating and also not for jennie. Haters want to use that Paris video because they always get a reaction out of it; from fans like you. so chill out.

One thing is not caring if he’s dating someone another thing is not recognizing the smear campaign he had to go through, the shit he had to endure while yg was defending their stocks, hybe was shielding behind him and Jn was trying to save her career, while he was stalked for almost two years. Just in the name of some moral superiority “look I’m better because I don’t care”, yes we can tell you don’t care. So sure, chill out.

[sethdomain]

I never cared for dreamnoblade and think it’s a little weird

Im sorry if ur a dreamnoblade shipper I just never saw the appeal

Real af tbh, im also a hater. Like if its about their dsmp character, its just one of those ships that has nothing wrong with it but you just do nooot like it. I just think if they are together it would be so boring, overused friendly rivalry trope if yg what i mean its just already overdone that i find so boring its so hateble.

if its about rpf yeah its weird, i dont think i dont have to say why