#yes i am rewatching spn season 1

[palatial-monstrosity]

me and who

[rosemariad]

THE BITTER END | SPN 15x18 DESPAIR: About that Destiel moment in 15x18

Oh boy…the scene that sailed a thousand memes (and counting)…the scene that made us all go feral in the midst of a contentious presidential elections in one of the most disruptive, chaotic years in recent memory (2020 you son of a bitch)

Now i am super late with this since it’s nearly been 4 years since this was aired live on TV and posted like crazy all over the internet BUT…y’all Destiel shippers got robbed. Not just with this scene but the whole Destiel ship in general - just done so dirty.

I started watching this show on and off back in 2021 and I finally got to finish over the summer this year (2024) taking my sweet time, even rewatching certain episodes (for some fanfic writing 😁). I went into this to settle the debate for myself - is this Destiel stuff legit? Or was it taken out of context? Misconstrued.

No. It really wasn’t. They (the powers behind SPN) tried it, tried to pull the wool over people’s heads, with certain fans chiming in (the destiel haters, the homophobes, the anti-mishas, etc.) but no. The SPN showrunners fucked all this up.

From the beginning….

So it’s 15x18 despair - we’re in the last act - shit’s popping off, everything’s going tits up - Billie is trying to hunt Dean down, calling him chaos incarnate. Dean & Cas get trapped in a room with no apparent means of escape or defense - probably should’ve headed for the exit - but I guess since it’s the 3rd to last episode and the execs clearly want things to go back to the status quo 🙄 now’s as good a time as any to cash in on that plot thread from last season and kill Castiel once and for all 😭 (as 1 person pointed out, given the prior context they probably could've just waited Billie out, since them being trapped in that room - Cas was the one that blocked the door anyhow - but I get it SPN showrunners you wanted to get rid of Cas somehow - what a mess)

If you haven’t watched it - here’s where I gasp and scoff in disbelief - please watch it https://youtu.be/l_r9GZeQl1w?si=uVox8PlXByYEYKci

Basically Cas tells Dean he’s the greatest guy he’s ever known, that he fights for love and that Cas lurves Dean 😭 and he’s not the bad things enemies say Dean is. That he’s more than the worst parts of himself - oh Cas.

This was Castiel’s one moment of true happiness - telling the one person whom he adores more than anyone or anything else in the entire universe - that he is loved by Castiel himself.

The confession that triggers Castiel’s demise to go with the empty, takes Billie with him and before Dean can process the massive TRUTH BOMB Castiel just dumped on him, Castiel is gone.

Despair indeed.

They made too many fucking cuts to this scene, at least for Jensen’s coverage. Like if you don’t want Dean to reciprocate…fine. Don’t. But let him fucking respond! Let him use his words. Castiel just told Dean he was in love with him, that is one of the BIGGEST things you can say to somebody in your life. EVER. Especially on TV. And yes it was in love, like romantically. Not platonically because why make such a fucking fuss over fucking platonic friendship! There’s always been a tension between these 2 characters, it hung over between them since season 4. They just made it into a joke, never expecting to get the traction it did over the years. They even tried writing Cas off the show for good back in season 7. But they got stuck with Cas and never really made proper use of him. They literally just waited until the last minute to get rid of him in a way that couldn’t get the show cancelled until that decision had already been made by the network. to make things worse - COVID happened

So don’t tell me the confession doesn’t merit a response, either for or against on Dean’s part - whether he returns Castiel’s affection or not is another story but dammit let Dean speak! How could you not? Cowards!

And Would it be so terrible if Dean did feel something MORE than friendship for the only other individual that has stood by him for so many years? Like really? A relationship doesn’t demand sex (but let’s be honest, Cas probably wanted to fuck the shit outta Dean 🤣) it’s whatever the people in the relationship want! Dean isn’t young by the time s15 rolls around. Older people tend to just want someone to come home to, settle down with. Companionship. Cas fits that to a fucking T. When Dean dreamed of a future, Cas was right there with him (and Sam, cuz Dean always wants his family close as much as he can, given how he grew up).

Couldn’t find a gif of Dean talking about taking some time off after all the craziness of the hunting they do but I’m not crazy I know he wanted it.

The team behind SPN could have finished Dean’s narrative beautifully as man who was driven by fear all his life and opens himself up to a relationship he never saw coming but when the time came he didn’t run because he grew to love more than fear (and choose to live a life of peace after stuck in one of violence for so many years).

This is why Hollywood is shit! Great beginnings, shitty endings. But in this case, it was because they consistently chose NOT to indulge in queer-like narratives with enough care (aside from some other problematic stuff like the treatment towards women being more negative than positive, the inconsistent writing for characters and plot, etc.)

BUT not when it’s the main character 😡 Charlie can be gay AF but not Dean, seriously? That’s fucked. Like at least let him fucking explore/consider it. So people stop watching it who gives AF?! I never even watched the show when it was on air for 15 years, tons of people didn’t. There are still people out there watching SPN for the first time today! People who started but stopped because it’s a show that ran WAAAY longer than any other normally does.

Idk who made it so that Dean couldn’t explore his sexuality or fucked up the Destiel of it all but they SUUUUUUUUCK! You really shat the bed! at least explore it cuz at the end of the day, it may not work out. Gay relationships aren’t that different from straight relationships in that sometimes it just doesn’t work out BECAUSE we’re ALL people. And who knows maybe they could’ve been happy but we’re not allowed to know that canonically because Destiel was never given a CHANCE!

I mean if it was REALLY that big a deal – why introduce it? By making these little suggestions that (in a way that's funny but why would Dean be queer be haha funny - no that's not okay, queerness shouldn't be a joke) furthermore we’re talking about a show on basic cable - all it would’ve taken was fucking hand-holding or the same routine of staring into each other’s eyes like they’d been doing for 12 fucking years already! Just not shying away from the queerness that time. Legend of Korra did it. That 1 Disney show did it (i don’t remember the name). No kissing would’ve been necessary - nice, wishful thinking but not necessary if the kissing became an issue (but seriously it was 2020 man but ofc - that is a year where a pandemic that required social distancing decided to kick in during the final arc of this show) - just so we’re all clear COVID cock blocked Destiel lol jk 🤣

All those times they had Dean & Cas stare into each other's eyes – the forces at work – showrunners, writers, directors AND editors & the network who is showing this to audiences – if its such a big fucking deal - Don't leave it in. By leaving it in, you're allowing people to make assumptions about the relationship – it happens literally every time in every story ever told. You put 2 people in a scene and they're not family (though not always the case) or JUST friends (explicitly proven) there's a chance SOMEONE is gonna wanna ship them no matter how likely it is (OR NOT) they'll hookup or become a couple. That's just how it is. So don't fan the flames and then turn it around on fans that they're wrong, crazy or misinterpreting. If Wincest can exist, so can Destiel and any other ship. That being said, y’all Destiel shippers were ROBBED but I don’t need to tell you that.

I don’t think the relationship would’ve been perfect or smooth sailing - their friendship as it was on the show sure wasn’t. And Dean wasn’t the only one with issues - Cas had some bad qualities too - the angel liked to lie and for a while there he was extremely averse to conflict. And Dean…he gets real fucking angry 😬 not a good mix for a relationship- hell even a friendship.

But the two had a profound bond, with a great deal of affection for one another and that’s what got them through betrayal, fights, amnesia, curses, apocalypses, and all the ugliness in between. They could’ve made it. Or they could’ve just had Cas and Dean stay friends - but we’ll never know since Cas was pretty much omitted after 15x18 - there were references - like only 2 though 😒

Really SPN? 😒😔 so lazy. But sure, go ahead, blame COVID. It’s not like phones exist. It’s not like the actor couldn’t have just recorded Castiel’s voice nope. Totally not an option 🤦🏾‍♀️ same goes for the other characters - Jody, Donna, Eileen - you know all the other characters Sam & Dean cared about but sure - fuck ‘em too. Status quo is the only thing that matters - SMH.

[uncouth-the-fifth]

while i am sad that pythia is being put on hold for now, i am SUPER excited to see what you'll do with leon (and whatever else you decide to to) seeing as i HOLD U YES U responsible for making me rewatch spn season 1 so i could remember all the episodes (thank you uncouth nation for reminding me of the racist truck episode, it was a hoot to drunk watch). regardless, i love your writing, and I'm so excited to see what you do no matter the fandom!

BITCH THAT'S CRAZYYY. i forget that i'm real and that everything i do impacts other ppl.... wtf. scary that my legacy is encouraging ppl to watch CW show and underground cult classic supernatural.... wow. and thank youuuu!! i will always love spn, but i'm enjoying having a fresh fixation to be insane over.

[urne-buriall]

i just finished part 2 of time has come today and (as always) was reading your author notes. you said you wrote it bc you wanted it and there was nothing out there like it. i always wonder, with expertly written fics like these, whether the authors read them just like readers do - or is it more that you soak up the story while writing and editing, and talk more about the plot/characters etc. on your blog and even share a few extra scenes from that world? when you settle in with a good fic that ticks all your boxes, are you on that list? <3

oh, absolutely I read what I write, even after it's finished & posted. these are Dean's emotions but they are also my emotions, and I know that I put the pain in there but I also twisted the pay-off just right, according to my own sensibilities. it's therapeutic, cathartic. and the writing process itself is an absolute pleasure because I am soaking it up, I'm getting the gratification when I think yes, I've expressed that just so. that is how it felt, this is how it would feel. and sure, writing is also painful and tries one's patience, but both the end result and the journey are always rewarding

and then there's the fact that this is Supernatural which. my friends. is an absolute OUTLIER as a media experience. I don't typically get into fandoms. people in my life know I don't watch much TV, that I like classics and prestige stuff when I do, and I notoriously don't rewatch things unless 7-8 years have passed. I mainlined all 15 seasons of spn and immediately wanted to go back to Season 1, Episode 1 (and did, after I wrote "time has come today"). the fic largely came out of the fact that I wasn't done with the story or characters and needed to fix things in my own way. so writing and re-reading became a way of extending the show - which is exactly what fandom does. rereading my own work was a way to stay in the story, but as I wished it could be told. "time has come today" is likely the closest of my fics in terms of tone, texture, and pace for matching the show for that reason

I like what I've written and am glad that other people do too. like any other writer, my critical brain activates and can go, "hm, that bit was awkward actually" or "my meaning here might not've been as clear as it could've," but ultimately I'm just glad I shared it, instead of keeping it to myself after getting the story out of my system. like I said, I don't typically participate in fandom and wasn't sure it was worth making that AO3 account and posting, but I've had a lot of fun taking part and deeply appreciate the welcome my contributions received

[deancodedinthewater]

(you don't have to post this)

cody,

i have been watching (and rewatching, and rewatching) supernatural for about 10 years now, always, always thinking "oh man, but what if it was good, what if it actually held the gravity that we all feel it should." and yes there are so many wonderful canon-verse fics, but the thing is, sometimes what you want is the actual show you watch with your two eyes to just be... good. so when i saw your fic i was like ooh okay mutual has written a fic let's check it out. and to say it exceeded my expectations is an understatement.

to have something that directly uses the source material, but elevates it to a whole new level, adding layers, foreshadowing and wonderful representation is such an overwhelming joy. i know so often we all say "oh i wish i could experience my favourite media for the first time again", well i did. and it was better than before. the way you have inserted trans/bi/demi-romantic dean into this fic so naturally is incredibly beautiful and never does it feel forced or out of place. the attention to detail and the way you expand on the nuances of the relationships in this fic is fascinating and so completely in character and it's just such a delight to read.

anyway! since i can't bake you a cake or send you my spleen in thanks, i hope this will do.

your loving ex-husband, isaac <3

You said I didn't need to post htis but I feel I have to. I have to because I need to use it as a bouncing off point. My goal with this rewrite was always to make it SPN but actually good. I always see people talknig about "the good SPN that lives in my head" well I wanted to bring it out. I wanted to show the world what Supernatural could be. And through your comments, and the comments of others, I have seen that goal come to fruition.

I am only on season 1. I do truly hope that I can keep up the momentum and that people, YOU, continue to enjoy it. And that people find it and enjoy it at least as much as I do.

Another part of my goal with this fic was to show that queer people are there. We are a part of the world. And sometimes, sometimes we can be so hard on ourselves, at literal rock bottom, but we can still prevail. If Dean can save the world whilst being at rock bottom and still be bisexual, transgender and demiromantic then I can go to work and live my life. I can do it because he can do it.

[watchingspnagain]

Rewatching Long-Distance Call

Welcome to “Pack Your Panties, We’re Going to Ohio: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!

  Up today, s3e14: Long-Distance Call.

 People in a town in Ohio are getting phone calls and IMs from the dead. Always someone who was very close to them and whose return they long for. The catch? Eventually the phone calls end in their gruesome deaths. The boys are on the case, but when Dean receives a call from John, he goes off the deep end—juuuust a little. Sam saves the day, but it’s clear Sam and Dean are both getting desperate and emotions are high as the clock ticks down for Dean.

 Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.

 [and we begin:]

 Lor:

 (omg only three eps till Cas!)

  Mace:

 (OHMYGOD YAYYYY)

Lor:

 tsk, pull your collar down in the back over your tie, dude

  Mace:

 snork

  Lor:

 1 demerit

  Mace:

 harsh!

  Lor:

I don't make the rules!

  Mace:

 SNORK!

  Lor:

 it's all right he's not gonna live long enough to care about his demerits

  Mace:

 that’s very true

 CREEPY

  Lor:

 YEP

  Mace:

 EW the blood splatter sound

  Lor:

 haaaahahahahah the splatter on the phone

 LOL

  Mace:

 prolly brain splatter too

  Lor:

 LOL our different reactions

  Mace:

 YAS

 “pack your panties, Sam"

  Lor:

 "no we were actually talking about our feelings"

YOU COULD USE TO TALK ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS, BOY

  Mace:

 you KNOW you have a favorite boy band, Dean

 YES

  Lor:

 he DOES

he absolutely does

(it's the Backstreet Boys)

  Mace:

 of course it is

  BOYS. SO FRAUGHT

  Lor:

 "you really wanna talk about who’s keeping secrets from who?" oooooh FRAUGHT

 LOL

  Mace:

 YAS, SAMMY, COME TO OHIO

  Lor:

 "guess I"m going to ohio" SASSY

 YAAAAAS

 oooo I LOVE it when they communicate without talking like that

  Mace:

 YES

  Lor:

 "a capital offense" and Sam's clearing his throat

 Mace:

 HAHAHA

 my god, Sammy looks good in that suit

that checked shirt, his hair

  Lor:

 he DOES

Dean wants a lunch

OMG I love him

  Mace:

 YAS

 omg lookit THOSE suits

  Lor:

 RIGHT?

  Mace:

 “worth every penny”

DEAN WINCHESTER

  Lor:

 oh Dean

  Mace:

 OMG THEIR STERN FACES

  Lor:

 mrrrrrg Dean all stern voice

  Mace:

 HAHAHAHA

  Lor:

 AND THEN THE SMUG SMILE

  Mace:

 YASYASYAS

  Lor:

 excuse, am ded

  Mace:

 SAME

 I think this is my favorite phase of Sammy hair

  Lor:

 it IS good

  "cause I was sort of busy"

OMG Dean's smile

  Mace:

 YES

  Lor:

 I WISH people from the phone company dressed like that

  Mace:

 HA

  Lor:

 THAT ISN'T A CHEAP SUIT

  Mace:

 seriously, Sammy is KILLING ME right now

DIMPLES

  Lor:

 the collar with NO BUTTONS

the HINT of ridiculous sideburns but they aren't ridiculous YET

  Mace:

 YES

the little flippity curls in the back of his hair

  Lor:

 YAAAAS

nrrrrrg now it's UNBUTTONED

  Mace:

 DEEEEDDDDD

  Lor:

 omg the girl walking past him who gives him the look

  Mace:

 YES

  Lor:

 oh DEAN

  Mace:

 oh DEAN NO

 HAHAHA

  Lor:

 you KNOW it's not your dad, honey

come ON

 "like OPRAH"

  Mace:

 SNORK!

 poor tiger he’s SHOOK

  Lor:

 HE IS

 okay, Sam, you need to swaddle your brother in a soft blankie and lock him in a room. he is not okay to do this case right now

  Mace:

 RIGHT?!

 (I’ve been to Milan, OH)

 omg the EYEBROWS

  Lor:

 (woot! did you go to the museum?)

 YES

  Mace:

 no

but they have edison signs all over

  Lor:

 "what's with the quotey fingers?"

  Mace:

 HAHAHA

  Lor:

 "we're walking and we're not touching that" OMG she's hilarious but I would have to smack her in real life

  Mace:

 YEP

  Lor:

 "the moldy are calling the freshies" omg

  Mace:

SNORK

 oh Dean, sitting up waiting for the call

  Lor:

 RIGHT?

 "do what?" omg his voice

  Mace:

 “you’re my boy, I love you” aaaand it’s definitely not him

  Lor:

 he said he loves you Dean, you KNOW THAT'S NOT HIM

 HAAHAHAAHHAHA YES

 this is SUCH a creepy concept

  Mace:

 IT IS

  Lor:

 "my ass is too sweet to let out of sight" DEAN

  Mace:

 he’s…not wrong

  Lor:

 TRUE

 omg the way Sam is trying to be patient and Dean is going off

  Mace:

 Dean, eat a piece of cheese, dude

 YES

  Lor:

 LOL

they both need hugs

  Mace:

 YEP

  Lor:

 "maybe that's all I got okay?"

  Mace:

 oh DEAN

  Lor:

 "please don't go anywhere until I get back

sam I TOLD you to swaddle him. he's just gonna flail and cry and take off now

  Mace:

 they never listen to us

  Lor:

 nope

silly boys

  Mace:

 um, what little kid would just matter-of-factly answer that play phone?

  Lor:

 RIGHT?

  Mace:

 I would have pooped my little pants

  Lor:

 YEP

though I like the parallel of the little boy answering the phone that's his mom and then immediately Dean answering the phone that's his dad

  Mace:

 oooh YES

  Lor:

 Dean can't stop being a little boy here

  Mace:

 NOPE

  Lor:

 "is that a sandwich?"

  Mace:

 “is that a sandwich"

 HAHAHA

  Lor:

 "this is herman munster" HAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  Mace:

 HAHAHAHA

  Lor:

 omg stop hitting Sammy in the head

  Mace:

 Ope, Sammy and the head concussions

HAHAHA

  Lor:

 LOLOLOLOLOL

 poor Stewie

  Mace:

 ew

  Lor:

 oooooh boy

  Mace:

 yeah

this is just cruel

  Lor:

 (I assume Dean is at the dude's house. i don't remember)

  Mace:

 (yep)

  Lor:

 omg moving his hair with the knife

  Mace:

 YES

  Lor:

 omg that move with the gun

  Mace:

 YES

SO COMPETENT

  Lor:

 YAAAAAS

and hot

  Mace:

 EWEWEWEWEWEW

  Lor:

 and hotly competent

  Mace:

 YES

  Lor:

 GROOOOOSS

SEE that impaling I believe would kill someone

UNLIKE SOME

  Mace:

 HAAAAAHAHAHAHA

 oh that Dean LOOK

poor kitten

  Lor:

 RIGHT?

 HOW DID HE GET OUT OF THAT ONE?

 "i see they improved your face" "right back atcha"

  Mace:

 BOYS

  Lor:

 "i gave you a hell of a time on this one" oh DEAN

  Mace:

 DEAN

  Lor:

 "I'm scared, Sam. I'm really scared" "I know" GAAAAAAAAH I CAN'T

  Mace:

 ME NEITHER

  Lor:

 "and me"

GAAAAAH

  Mace:

 YAS

  Lor:

 "that's what you come back with? and me?" "you want a poem?"

HAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 drinking together in the motel room sigh

  Mace:

 THESE TWO

  Lor:

 holds them

  Mace:

 YES

  Lor:

 our poor boys

  Mace:

 INDEED

[mzkora]

Hi!! Just I just finished my first full rewatch of SPN season 1 and I have thoughts. Mostly just observations, little things I noticed. I’m not a media studies analyst nor an industry professional, so my ideas and opinions are just that. OPINIONS. We can discuss and debate them, but my fellow koolaid-drinking fan-girlies let’s be real with each other. We’re all freaks for loving/obsessing over this show so no hate, please.

In the name of transparency yes I am a Wincestie. Wincest was my first ever ship. EVER. And while that will inevitably color my interpretation of things, it’s not my primary lense or point of interest for this rewatch. I just wanted to rewatch the show again and see how I felt about it. However, since Wincest is a part of my enjoyment of/experience with the show, I will be mentioning it and discussing it so NO HATE. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!

Anyway, a little context before we begin my probably long winded and unnecessary/unrequested commentary. I am an OG fangirl. I started watching the show when it first aired. Then after season 5, I dropped off and took a /long/ hiatus. I caught up after the fact watching DVDs of the later seasons that my brother had, so I stayed mostly up to date for a while before truly falling off the bandwagon sometime around Season 8 or 9. As the show wrapped up I popped back into watching it for old times sake and to see how it would all finish. So I got season 15 directly from the source, the backstory leading up to that I got from my brother giving me the highlights and then me dipping my toes in the streaming of those later seasons. An episode here or there, only the most notable/highest rated ones of their respective seasons and honestly that’s how I typically “rewatch” shows. Just the hits, no filler.

This rewatch, the one I’m documenting here and now at the end of this the year of our lord 2023, is my first ever true rewatch of the show. Episode per episode, no skipping and no fast forwarding. Here’s my observations:

The rainy, grainy aesthetic. Yes. Everyone who talks about the early seasons mentions it, but the wet, grayed out atmosphere and editing of the show really do lend a realness and grittiness to the show that adds something to the overall basic-ness of the storytelling.

The episodes move fast! This is partly due to the editing of course, but the show really did have a momentum, a keep-things-moving attitude in season 1 that took me by surprise at first. I had forgotten how streamlined and lean the show was then, following that Monster of the Week formula so tightly.

Adding to my previous point, I had forgotten after all these years how little explicit worldbuilding there really was then. Things weren’t explained. There were no origins for the monsters other than it’s there and needs to be stopped from killing people. No overarching intricate lore to bind it all together which left a lot of room for us fangirls in those days to wonder and question and come up with our own theories. There wasn’t much exposition stuffed in to explain how and why. It was left to our collective imaginations. (Until of course it wasn’t, but that’s just the nature of the beast as a show goes on and things like continuity and lore start to matter more.)

To that end I had also forgotten how ignorant the boys were in the beginning. These babies knew nothing! They were going off half cocked on little more than whatever they could decipher from their father’s scrapyard style of collage journalism and random, unsubstantiated Internet forums/posts. Rumors, legends, folk tales, and hearsay. Thats it. They didn’t even know that “the THING that killed Mom” was a demon until the latter half of the season! I had totally forgotten just how innocent and naive and gung-ho these kiddies were.

As a Tumblrina I of course see the same gif sets and edits as the rest of us Wincesties. And while some of those looks and line readings have been taken out of context or at least shifted from the actual context of the specific scenes themselves…yeah these brothers do be /like that/. It’s all subtextual so far and the “normalcy” of their relationship at this point can be debated, but the seeds of the unhinged, deranged, codependent behavior are definitely there. Some of those looks you see in the gifs really are just these two brothers eye-fucking/pining/being deeply fond of each other. So, yeah, I see it. The shipping of them didn’t start for me until seasons later during the initial run of the show, but I can see the seeds being planted. The subtextual hand sowing the fields…

Most of the episodes hold up pretty well in my opinion. At least in terms of rewatchability. Insert requisite mention of “Bugs” here. Which I contend is actually an alright episode as far as these things go at least until that third act. Yeeesh. It strains credulity, which is an embarrassing thing considering the genre.

In general, YES, there is a lot of early 2000s cringe (and lack of diversity/marginalized representation) but overall it’s manageable for me. I grew up in that era and I’m white, so it’s not as hard on me as it is for some. There were more than a few dated references but that’s to be expected in a show that ran so long, so long ago. (We’re aging y’all! I don’t like it, and nobody wants to talk about it, but we’re all aging and it’s not going to stop anytime soon. I started this show as a literal teenager and now I’m in my 30s and I’m still talking about it. Big Yikes. Major cringe. But 🤷🏻‍♀️ oh well. I’m in it for the long haul I guess. I escaped for a while, the show not the fandom, and now I’m back in the show again. Back on my bullshit. Is anyone surprised?)

Shoutout to so many wonderful women characters that all deserved better/more: Loretta Devine/Missouri in “Home”, you should’ve been recurring (and not killed off in later seasons but that’s besides the point); Cassie from “Route 666” you basically got erased from canon, never to be mentioned again despite being Dean’s canonical first love, and ultimately you were supplanted by Lisa as Dean’s romance stand-in (you were cooler than a one-off and definitely didn’t deserve to be completely forgotten by the show itself); the two surviving vampires from “Dead Man’s Blood” y’all should’ve been brought back sooner, but hey at least one of you got to kill Dean in the end, so WHOO-HOO🎉🎉🎉! For how little screen time y’all all got you kept it real and made the show better. We didn’t deserve you. (In this same vein hey Sarah from “Provenance” I see you girl. You also shouldn’t have been fridged later on for the ManPain™️ of it all. But hey at least the show was consistent in its bullshit, right?)

Moving on, *insert obligatory comment on the use of actors from other supernatural shows here*. I see you actress that played Christie on Charmed in that last season. I see you Amy Acker and Darla from Angel. I see you Aunt Zelda from the original Sabrina show. It was great seeing y’all pop up. Familiar faces and all that…I look forward to seeing the rest of your compatriots later on.

Going back to worldbuilding for a bit, can I just say how much I enjoy it when the Random Person Who Knew John trope comes up? It tickles me. Like the airplane guy in “Phantom Traveler”. Dude really did just hang on to John’s phone number for however long and dial him up again when things got weird. I missed that aspect of the show in later seasons. The randomness of the people and the tangential connection to the brothers really played into the “there’s a hidden supernatural world within/beside our own” trope. And it helped make the show feel more true to its working class roots. Showing up to help random strangers because they knew your daddy/met him once made it feel like there was a community support network and the brothers were fulfilling a role/a service as part of that network of poor/disenfranchised/working class people rather than being big heroes on a journey.

In other news “Hell House” was a truly forgettable episode. I had no recollection of it whatsoever until those Ghostfacer guys popped up and then I was like oh yeah, they’re a thing. I never cared about them tbh. Their episodes and antics always annoyed me during the show’s run. Still true today. “Hell House” was a struggle to get through and I very nearly skipped it/fast forwarded through it, but I bravely carried on. (Aren’t you proud of me?) Something about the lack of history for the quote unquote “monster” of the week really didn’t work for me. I like there being some amount of history in the mix no matter how distorted or fabricated or mishandled it may be. Legacies are never clean cut or simple. And having a random entity somehow exist because people online believe in it? A little too modern horror for my tastes. I’m not a Black Mirror girlie. I’m a Gothic horror girl. And honestly I’m not much of a horror girl, so I guess I’m actually here purely for the Gothic-ness of it all.

Also along the lines of something being completely erased from my memory: Bobby had a dog?! Poor little guy had a literal nanosecond of screen time so it makes sense that such a small detail escaped me, but still…you were a good junkyard dog (Rutherford? Was that his name? It was something like that . Anyways, RIP big guy. We hardly knew ye…)

And can I just say? Bobby what the hell were you wearing in your debut episode?! A t-shirt and vest?! Cover those arms, baby! You look like a teen going fishing down at the crick (aka the creek for those unfamiliar with country phrasing.) Plus, I chuckled a little at the characterization of you in that first appearance. You were just some dude. A hunter yes but seemingly retired(?) or at least not the supposed always prepared/always knowledgeable badass you later would be retconned to be. At one point when Meg burst into your house, Sam got in front of you, shielding you like you were a civilian/damsel in distress rather than treating you like a tough, gruff, father figure worthy of respect and unquestionably capable of taking care of yourself. You hadn’t achieved John status yet I guess.

Which brings me to John. It really do be like that post that was floating around said: you weren’t missing, dude. You were just playing keep-away with your boys for like over half the season. Miscommunication trope, much? More like ZERO communication trope. You really just ditched your kids and left them to worry about you without so much as a heads up, huh? You don’t deserve the amount of hate you get as a character from some fans and yes you did love your boys, but goddamn are you a negligent, uncommunicative parent. I totally understand Sam’s frustration with you. I’d be annoyed too. If you gotta dip, you gotta dip, but at least have the decency to let your kids know.

As a final aside, “Dead Man’s Blood” is a sexy episode. It definitely had that dirty, trashy vampire vibe thing going on and /unsurprisingly/ that works for me. I too would want revenge if some guys in flannel killed my Luther. He was hot and loved his girl. You gotta love it. And just yo be clear yes you could attack me and tie me up and make me watch my boyfriend die then watch you have sex with your vampire wife and seduce me into drinking your blood and becoming one of you any day. That slutty, murder-y biker gang, white trash vamp aesthetic really does things to me. OMG! I’m ashamed, but unapologetic. The truth is the truth. RIP vamp Daddy Luther! You were a hottie.

Anyway, I’ve rambled long enough. These were just my most salient thoughts after finishing the season a few hours ago. It wasn’t a binge watch because I have taken breaks between chunks of episodes, but I really didn’t have that much to add to the conversation that hasn’t already been said and discussed at length. I just wanted to get some thoughts down to mark the occasion. I very rarely do genuine, complete rewatches of my favorite shows. I usually just hopscotch around revisiting my faves, getting a taste of their respective seasons without taking in the full experience. I didn’t do that this time.

In general, I enjoyed myself. I can see why I watched the show as a teen (though I wouldn’t say I became a fangirl of it until later into that OG Kripke five season run). It had the supernatural elements that I loved and still do, alongside other shows I watched then (Buffy, Angel, Charmed) plus the eye candy of the two lead boys who were absolutely my type: big, and tall, and pretty, and total white trash. With those mop-headed bangs and dick-sucking lips. Pretty is pretty. And I’m a sucker for it, but at least I’m aware of my bias. It’s a little scary how forgiving I can be when I think a guy is hot.

Farewell fellow freaks! Until next time I guess.

Carry on.

[stillcrazyin2023]

supernatural was only good because I was queer ~ a timeline

2013 me:

*watches supernatural, seasons 1 and 2 at a friend’s house for the very first time*

*tries not to let friends see me blushing

*it finally happened, a boy I’m genuinely attracted to, I guess I won’t die alone, maybe?*

2015 me:

*huddled in a blanket burrito at 3 am, 20 episodes into a day-long binge, fully steeped in every available spn soundtrack on YouTube, probably wearing a flannel under my blanket, crying over young dean’s ~trauma~*

*i just feel so much sympathy for this character*

*I relate so much to this fucking fictional character* *why do I relate so much to this broken goddamn character?*

***

*spends entire summer obsessing over this absolute wreck of a show*

*searches angsty spn fan art on Pinterest*

later 2015 me:

*walks around my college campus in hiking boots and a flannel-hoody-canvas jacket combo with a scowl on my face and rock music blaring in my ears*

*I just think he’s a good older sibling and I just want to emulate him so I can be a better older sibling to my younger sisters*

*searches dean-inspired outfits on Pinterest*

*learns about “coding” and “kinning”*

*chuckles to no one in particular, I’m so Dean-coded*

*stumbles upon the hillywood show*

*stumbles*

***

2016 me

*continues to obsess daily over Dean posts on Pinterest*

*I wish I could cut my hair*

*doesn’t*

2017 me

*still wearing five layers of flannel and a hoody at 3am*

*searches adult tomboy on pinterest*

*searches not boy not girl gender on pinterest*

*learns about non-binary gender identity*

*panics about not feeling real*

*what person would ever be attracted to a person who’s not a person?* (obviously a naive and uninformed take on my part, but my immediate reaction nevertheless)

*hides hair under a hoody and goes to strike best “blue steel” in the mirror at 3 am*

*feels giddy*

*takes selfie*

*good thing that’s out of my system*

2018 me

*tries dating a guy friend*

*breaks up after a week*

*friendship goes up in flames*

*starts watching lesbian bloggers for relationship advice*

2019 me

*regularly researches gender and sexuality terms and flags to remain informed as an ally*

*reads about comphet master doc on Reddit to better understand why I felt pressured as a straight woman to date my male friend*

*nods along, yes, i understand, even straight women experience comphet*

*unironically reads the first 5 chapters of Stone Butch Blues in order to better understand the lesbian identity and history*

*as an ally*

*a really good ally*

*hypothetically imagines self as Jess*

*for educational purposes*

*and like, allyship*

*cries*

*wants to cut hair*

*doesn’t*

2020 me

*if only I knew how long we would be out of the office, then I could try cutting my hair and have time to grow it back before returning to the office*

*rewatches seasons 1-6*

*watches lesbian couples vlogs “because they’re entertaining and I’m an ally, and I just really appreciate their healthy relationship”*

*downloads tiktok*

*entrenches self in queer tiktok*

*ally*

*watches tiktok claiming all lesbians are Dean-coded*

*pauses*

*scrolls*

*does not cut hair*

2021 me

*I’ve been out of the office long enough. I think I can finally cut my hair*

*feels at home in body*

*that’s neat*

***

*I need to be sure about this before I comes out*

*revisits Stone Butch Blues to make sure I’m sure*

2022 me

*hears about trash spn ending*

*hmm, i wonder why I liked such an objectively trash show in the first place*

also 2022 me: *is a raging masculine-of-center non-binary genderqueer butch lesbian*

Dean Winchester: *is subtextually (canonically) an angry, repressed, oblivious bi person, whose every inexplicably cringe action as a straight man makes 5000% more sense for someone struggling to reconcile queer masculinity without a blueprint*

[lordgolden]

46 episodes between me and cas this is kinda painful but I need the Background Info 

[ghost-roads]

i forgot just how good season 1 of supernatural was. it's such a vibe! i am having such a good time. i love the lore, i love the simplicity of it, i love the brotherly bickering, i love young jensen ackles. i don't love dean's daddy's boy persona or sam's smarter than you persona, but it's a good basis for character development so it's okay. my favourite episode so far is dead in the water. it's such a dean arc episode, and i love that the main supporting character is a kid. i'd forgotten they'd actually mentioned dean's trauma induced mutism in the series. the parallel with little lucas, and the way dean cares so much about him despite only knowing him for like, two days. that's basically the introduction of mom!dean. which is one of the most interesting things about his character. yeah i'm a dean girl we get it.

[ao3-kenopsiia]

consider: man who would be king is simply castiel's version of the garden of gethsemane

[god-has-a-beard]

Part 3 of rating things the Supernatural cast has been in: Misha Collins/Rob Benedict/Richard Speight Jr./Jared Padalecki/Jensen Ackles/numerous-other-SPN-actors in Kings of Con

Description: Inspired by their experiences at Supernatural conventions, it is part improv, part scripted comedy. Rob Benedict and Richard Speight Jr. (and everyone else in the series - except Misha, Misha weirdly plays a random fella with a monkey) play dramatized version of themselves over the course of the Supernatural convention season.

Where did I watch: Vudu

Rating: 4 stars

Misha Collins’ character rating: 4 stars

Rob Benedict’s character rating: 5 stars

Richard Speight Jr’s character rating: 5 stars

Jared Padalecki’s character rating: 3 stars

Jensen Ackles’ character rating: 3 stars

Misha Collins’ acting rating: 5 stars

Rob Benedict’s acting rating: 5 stars

Richard Speight Jr’s acting rating: 5 stars

Jared Padalecki’s acting rating: 5 stars

Jensen Ackles’ acting rating: 5 stars

Favorite episode: Season 1, episode 6

Thoughts: Honestly, I loved this show. It is like Curb Your Enthusiasm, but for SPN fans. The comedy was great, the concept was great, and it gets even more meta in the last episode. I got to see my favorite actors kinda, sorta playing themselves, and it was great. I really wish I could get a season two, but alas I am stuck rewatching season one.

Would I recommend?: If you like Supernatural, yes. If you like comedy, yes. If you like Curb Your Enthusiasm, yes. Honestly, yes, I recommend this to anyone reading.

Other notes: There is a Kings of Con podcast which is just Rob and Rich talking to each other, I highly recommend listening to it, because it is very enjoyable. (There was also another podcast made before this one called And My Guest is Richard Speight which is also very good)

Thoughts on each episode (this may get spoilery, read at your own risk):

Episode 1

- A good first episode

- good, not great

Episode 2

- A great episode, quite funny

- The scene in the supply closet was probably my favorite, they certainly fit a lot of Supernatural cast members into that one closet

Episode 3

- Great episode, I was dying laughing

- It was so funny when Rob accidentally called the cops and ran to Rich’s room

Episode 4

- Another great episode

- I loved the scene where Kent O’Grady was like 2 inches away from Rob’s face, that was hilarious

Episode 5

- A decent episode

- Not incredibly memorable tbh

Episode 6

- My favorite episode of the series (probably)

- The whole concept was just amazing and hilarious, loved it

Episode 7

- A pretty good episode

- Serge is very funny in this episode

Episode 8

- Decent episode

- Pretty forgettable

Episode 9

- Probably my second favorite episode of the series

- Another great concept and very funny moments

Episode 10

- A really good end to the series

- I loved seeing Jensen, Jared, and Misha

- I like how Misha’s character is such a hippy lol

[luxshine]

The Great Supernatural Rewatch Project - Salvation

I started writting this in the middle of season 13 but RL and work and some mental health issues made me take a step back from fandom in general and well, I was also fearing this would be an unending job since the series JUST.KEPT. GOING.

However, now that the series is done (And omg, what a clusterfuck that was. My tallies are going to go insane if I get there) and thus there’s an ending in sight, I will do my best to finish season 1, and try and get the rest of the seasons in a more timely manner. Say, before they do the inevitable reunion and ignore the last episode completely.

(I’m going to be honest, part of the problem was that Supernatural used to be SO good back then, and when I see the new episodes I weep a bit inside. I can’t believe they were so much better at creating story arcs when they weren’t TRYING to create story arcs)

Of course, now we all know that Dean’s plots in general will not have a happy ending no matter what, and that makes that particular tally bittersweet. But there are STILL people who claim that nope, Dean was never mistreated by the writers and well, Jack damn it, I am not going to let that claim go without bringing numbers to the table. Hopefully, it won’t take me 15 years to finish (Because by then, I would be the only one caring I guess)

In any case, last lap for Season 1 and we begin with Salvation.

General stuff

A specific reason for me having rage quitted this episode in particular for so long: For some stupid copyright thing with Netflix, they don’t have Carry On My Wayward Son as the song for the final recap –at least in Netflix Latam. And Supernatural without Carry On My Wayward Son is no Supernatural. So I had to hunt my DVDs. Then my computer DVD player died. Then I decided to make 5 webcomics at the same time. THEN I decided to start doing illustration works, and three other projects and let’s just say I am a bit of a workaholic and leave it like that as the rest is not SPN-related.

Ahem.

Funny thing about the Road so Far –you know, besides being a LOT shorter than the ones we’re getting now- is that it focuses a lot more on DEAN at the beginning, while if you watch the show, well, we know most of those Dean scenes come from MoW episodes and not the actual mytharc. Another interesting thing is that if one believes those things to be chronological, it makes it as if the Colt had been with the brothers for a lot longer than half an episode, and that Sam’s issue with the visions is not that recent. Edition Magic everyone! Also, omg, they were babies when the series started, and how WEIRD is to see John looking at them with pride and smiling at Dean at some points.

Anyway, the recap and the epicness that is Carry On my Wayward Son ends and we start the actual plot.

Hello Pastor Jim. Goodbye Pastor Jim. And here Supernatural begins the long, long tradition of killing characters who could’ve been useful later on, and more importantly, that could’ve been the boys’s support system later on. While here it’s understandable since we need to show how dangerous and vicious Meg is –ah, irony that in about 8 seasons people will be rooting for her Redemption- it also makes the Hunters kind of useless. I mean, he has all that weaponry and only uses a knife? Sigh. Really, a waste. Pastor Jim as a concept was really intriguing –and I don’t think we’ve heard of any other hunter who was also a priest. Funny, when we have so many demons free now. There’s also the fact that when Pastor Jim claims that she can’t be in the church because it’s hallowed ground, she replies that “That might work with the minor leagues, but not with her” and I wonder… did we ever got a demon that couldn’t enter a church? Because right now out of the top of my head I can’t remember, and yet Pastor Jim was surprised but later no one seems to think it weird there were signs of demonic activity around his body. Another sign that, as engaging as the series was, once we start digging the world building, things fall apart very quickly.

Actually, if I may digress for a bit, here we have the very first look at Supernatural´s second biggest problem: killing support characters that may have been useful lately. Here it is because Kirkpe had this weird idea that Hunting would never be glamorized by the show/fandom and it would be a completely miserable and lonely existence. He also didn’t think that the series would survive past season 2. So, ok, killing the guy we only knew by throw away lines didn’t seem so bad. By season 13 every single recurring character had died at least once –and there were petitions to bring back I think every one of those who haven’t come back- it’s a big problem.

As I restarted writing, I also realized that the mere existence of Pastor Jim and his room of awesome research and weapons creates a problem in the future about the Men of Letters because… ok, so ONE member of the clerigy knew enough about demons and stuff to be a hunter and have THE Hunter as his main contact (John Winchester was sort of a legend back then. And he had also fell out of contact with many others so the fact that he and Pastor Jim were still friendly? Kind of interesting), but what about the rest? Did the Vatican have any contact with the British men of Letters or the American ones? And if so, what the hell did they think when suddenly ALL the Men of Letters disappeared? Ok, so that’s a lot of stuff that doesn’t matter right now as it won’t actually exist until much, much, MUCH latter, but see what I mean when I say that they didn’t plan anything and the lack of a series bible hurts the show more than it helped it thrive? I am realizing right now I could write a whole treaty on the Men of Letters and their non-relationship with hunters ONLY using this cold beginning and the Henry Winchester episode.

But this is not the time for that, so we get our title card and a very, VERY young Jeffrey Dean Morgan.

We move to John who is explaining off camera everything he knows about Yellow Eye´s plan. We can tell it´s not much as he thinks it came out of hibernation and that the whole attacking families is part of a cycle, but back then it was impressive how much he had managed to find out about this demon. We also know that it attacks exactly when the baby in the house is six months old, which brings us to this little jewel:

JOHN It starts in Arizona, then New Jersey, California. Houses burned down to the ground. It's going after families, just like it went after us.

SAM Families with infants?

JOHN Yeah. The night of the kid's six-month birthday. 

SAM I was six months old that night?

JOHN Exactly six months.

SAM So basically, this demon is going after these kids for some reason. The same way it came for me? So Mom's death...Jessica. It's all because of me?

DEAN We don't know that Sam.

SAM Oh really? Cause I'd say we're pretty damn sure Dean.

DEAN For the last time, what happened to them was not your fault. 

SAM Right. It's not my fault but it's my problem.

DEAN No it's not your problem it's our problem!

 Now, in the following seasons we will know that yes, it was ALL about Sam. But right now, the characters and the viewers don´t know that. We know that a lot of families were killed by the demon (That at this point was still “The demon” and wouldn´t become Azazael until later), and that he doesn´t take the children. So… how did Sam leap from “this demon attacks families with 6 month old children” to “It´s all about ME!”? He even ignores that Dean and John lost Mary for his last line, when he decides it´s his problem and not their problem. Also, and this is important for the “Dean is the most awful person to Sam” crowd… Dean immediately tells Sam that no, it´s not his fault. While he could harbor some ill feelings against Sam –and demon Dean, 8 seasons later, will voice them- at this point he is 100% on Sam´s side. There’s also a sideway glance from John to DEAN when Sam claims that everything is about him, and then I wonder exactly why, if John knew all about the fact that the demon chased six month old children specifically, he never resented Sam over it. One would think that given John’s love for Mary and deep desire to revenge, Sam would really be the outcast and the one only treated like a soldier (as he claims he was, but not really as we’ve seen), instead of Dean who was completely blameless in the whole thing.

(Also, this is the first time we see that Azazael´s plan didn´t make much sense IF we believed that Kirkpe had everything planned. But that´s a discussion for another time)

Anyway, John interrupts the argument to explain that while he has no idea what the demon is after (Another thing that later would be contradicted as he knew Sam had powers), but that he has managed to figure out his pattern of attack to the point that it even repeated it for Jessica’s killing (Even if much, much later, we’ll learn that it wasn’t Azazael the one who killed her, and Demons would completely forego the signs when attacking. Have I mentioned I miss the times when the myths made sense?) and the three of them pack up for their first real hunt together as they decide they will save the next baby on the demon’s list, in a town named Salvation.

Important thing to note: when John recites the demon signs, Dean immediately replies “that happened in Lawerence”. He remembers, quite clearly, what happened a week before his mother died even if logistically, at his age? He wouldn’t care nor notice. Sure, he remembers his mom’s death because that was traumatic. But random cow deaths before that? Weird show.

If Sam noticed or not the signs before Jessica died, we don’t know. John is the one who points out they happened.

After two gorgeous road shots where we see John’s truck being followed by Baby (yet another thing we lost, John’s truck. I know we needed to have the guys together all the time, but man, if Sam had inherited it, they would’ve been able to cover more terrain at times, have double the arsenal and maybe not being identified by everyone and their leviathan in season 7, but I digress), and just entering Salvation John stops, obviously spooked by something. As Dean stops behind him, they find out that Pastor Jim is dead, and John got a call from another hunter named Caleb to tell him. They assume it may be the demon they’re chasing, or maybe another demon that was looking for Pastor Jim specifically but that last theory is not very probable.

Here I have to pause to applaud Jeffrey Dean Morgan’s acting, as you can practically FEEL John’s despair at knowing an old friend of him died, and that HE was probably the cause for that death. A Winchester trait, of course, blaming themselves for everything bad that happens in their world, but unlike Sam’s early outburst, here it seems far more desperate. Of course, JDM had a lot more experience than Jared at that point, but I really wanted to make a note of it because we lost a LOT of that characterization for John, where he actually WORRIED about people and not just the hunt. Even as he decides the plan for finding out what baby the demon will take in a week, we can see him broken and confused. So much that while Sam calls him “sir” when receiving orders, Dean continues the conversation by calling him “Dad”.

John then declares that this ends now, obviously feeling responsible for what happened to his friend. A long shot from the flanderized man we’d hear about in future seasons who was infamous for letting his hunting partners die without so much as a second glance.

Also, and not to be mean to the writers, but in their endless accidentally making Sam unsympathetic, they made him say that there were too many children in the county that could be a victim and that it would take forever to check all of them. While I KNOW the intent was to make clear that they had a deadline of one week, it comes out weirdly as “I don’t want to do the footwork.” Seriously, writers should be careful with that.

Actually, let’s dissect that. Because I just thought of two ways they could’ve fixed it AND give us more info.

JOHN Now we act like every second counts. There's two hospitals and a health centre in this county. We split up, cover more ground. I want records. I want a list of every infant that's going to be six months old in the next week.

SAM Dad that could be dozens of kids. How do we know which one's the right one?

JOHN We check em all that's how. You got any better ideas?

SAM No sir.

So, first way to make Sam not look that bad: Give the line to Dean. I wouldn’t like it specially, but hey, he’s the sidekick, not the hero, and so far he has only wanted to bail on ONE hunt because he wasn’t sure it was a supernatural hunt so he’d be better standing than Sam in that regard.

Second way: Make Sam say that YES, he has a better idea. Because the brothers ALREADY faced Max, so he could say they could look for a baby that was a bit “strange”, like, with poltergeist stuff going around. John could not believe him, but at least Sam would be being proactive.

In any case, they separate as John planned and we see each of them get into the hospital records. We get a glimpse of John’s collection of fake IDs, that include one for a Morgue forensic doctor, then Sam getting a homely nurse giving him files and him taking notes, and Dean… getting flirty with a very hot nurse.

And I make a point of the “Oh, look, Dean is an irresponsible womanizer” trope because once again the writers shoot themselves in the foot by showing the opposite of what they were telling (And no, this time I can’t blame it on Jensen’s acting and refusal to look at his female co-stars without respect).

WOMAN Hi. Is there anything I can do for you?

DEAN (smiling) Oh God yes.

She smiles and looks down.

DEAN (Holding up his ID) Only I'm uh....working right now, so...

The writers here make us remember that a) Dean is AMAZINGLY charismatic, as the woman IS flattered and seems interested, and b) That he will NOT dump his work for a quickie. We don’t even get a “maybe later” that could make him look as if he was really into her. It’s just that he flirts naturally, or at least, this is what we can infer now, as so far he hasn’t had any one night stand fling. The one time we saw him have a sexual encounter in the middle of a hunt was with an ex-girlfriend.

And again I have to wonder what was Sera Gamble’s intention with those scenes as yes, this was written by the same team as Faith, another episode where Sam’s good intentions tend to have a darker side, and gave Dean some amazingly cool scenes.

We don’t know what Dean says to the woman, as we cut back to Sam, coming out of the hospital just in time to have a very convenient vision of a woman, a nursery and a fire. Thankfully, the vision also comes with the useful audio hint of a train passing by, so Sam gets out his map and starts checking where that could be, which leads him to the house in his vision.

And by this point, we know we’re in the right track and this is an important Myth Arc episode, because Sam only has multiple visions in Myth Arc episodes, and he has one the moment he steps in front of the house in said vision. The gods of convenience smile upon him as right then and there a woman pushing a pram comes by, and he manages to talk to her, all friendly like by pretending to having just moved. Then Sam learns the woman’s name is Monica, her baby is Rosie, and Rosie is just six months old, exactly to the day.

Also, that she’s a very quiet baby and that it sometimes seems as if she was reading your mind. Oh, and that Monica really is blind to suspicious men asking her about her family with a face that reads “Oh shit, this is bad”.

Now, HERE is where the whole “five year myth arc” story falls completely. I mean, we already knew it was pretty unlikely it was real, given Kirkpe’s original interviews, but the mere existence of Rosie contradicts every single future story beat. Because if SHE has powers before Azazael goes into her house, then it means that the babies he was hunting didn’t get powers because of him, just that his blood either connected them (hence Sam’s very specific visions), made said powers far more powerful (quite likely), or made them a little bit more prone to violence/prideful behavior. All of those possibilities match with the plan of “raising” a new King or Queen of Hell, that would be faithful to Azazael, but are a bit iffy on the “finding Lucifer’s vessel” thing. Especially since we later learn that the Angels were also helping, and all Hell knew that Lucifer’s vessel HAD to come from the Winchester/Campbell bloodline due to Cain and Abel being the roots of said bloodline, and later pretty much everyone knew Sam was Lucifer’s vessel so the whole targeting a ton of kids, in particular after Mary’s death, is kinda weird.

Oh, Lux, you will say, it is because he wanted to hide his true intentions! No one knew that Sam had been feed demon blood!

Except that the important parties, namely Heaven and Hell, did. Michael had Heaven convinced of his orders, so even if a rogue angel found out that they were speed running the Apocalypse, said angel could be killed. And any demon who was against getting Lucifer back on top would be smart enough to keep quiet so, why the secrecy?

And again, ok, I buy the original demon blood kids being important to “hide” Lucifer’s vessel but… Rosie? What good would it do to Azazael’s plan to have a psychic 4 year old when Lucifer rose? Was “little four year old girl” a good match against a grown up hunter? What was Azazel thinking, if that was the plan all the time?

Now, I want to make clear this doesn’t make THIS episode or the Season-myth arc bad. This original “Boy King of Hell” storyline WAS good. It had a lot of potential, made sense for Sam and since it was before the days of the eternal “What is wrong with Sam?” seasons, there was no boredom of a repeat. It also set a very good question of what made a monster a monster, which would be explored a bit more in Season 2. And it was long before we realized Dean having a myth arc was a pipe dream, so there was no issue there either. It made sense.

But the fact that the writers kind of forgot about everything I just pointed out with Rosie’s scene to try and weld this to the “Heaven vs. Hell” storyline in season 4, and then just promptly forgot because Sam’s powers were then firmly connected to Azazael’s blood so they never came up again and even worse, we never find another psychic kid that could’ve been feed blood by Azazael THIS year that John was chasing him? (Since we know there were no other survivors from Sam’s generation, and later we have a scene that proves that there were no previous generations to Sam’s), it's kind of weird. Personally, I dunno about you, but maybe a return to this storyline in season 6 would’ve been a lot better than we got. Maybe.

By the way, I am not counting the Boy King of Hell story arc as a dropped plot for Sam yet, as we’re going to keep with this at least until season 3. Yes, now we know it didn’t go anywhere, but at the time, and for these episodes in particular, it was THE myth arc of Supernatural. So it can’t be counted as dropped plot yet.

In any case, Sam goes and tells John and Dean about his vision and… oh, boy do we have to move John’s reaction to Emotional Violence.

It’s not good.

But before he can do more damage to Dean’s psyche, Sam gets a call from our favorite demon, Meg. Even if he doesn’t recognize her voice immediately which is weird because a) he did throw her off a window and one would think that makes a girl memorable, and b) it’s not as he knows that many girls who would call him, despite Dean’s best efforts to get him a new girl.

Meg dismisses Sam and asks for John. She makes clear that she is not playing, that she knows he has the Colt and that he will kill every single person who has ever helped John unless he gives it to her that same day at midnight. And to the brothers’ surprise, John accepts those terms (Unfortunately not before we loss Caleb too. I have a lot less interest in Caleb as a character given that he has exactly half a line in the whole show, but it’s still it’s sad to see a guy so defiant even in the face of death go so soon).

Meg also points out that John having the Colt is a “declaration of war” which is interesting as it sort of implies that if he hadn’t gotten it, then the demons would leave him and the brothers alone. And I find that incredibly funny since… no they won’t. And Azazael would’ve been ok if Sam kept the gun anyway, given why they really wanted and once again I am putting holes on the idea that this was planned from the start, aren’t I?

In any case, John declares that Meg is a demon “or is possessed by one” which… ok? First and only time we get the possibility of a demon not using a meat suit. I don’t think this is a mistake, because after all, this is back before the guys faced demons in a normal basis so they could believe that they had their own bodies besides the ones they possessed (And, more importantly, before there was a retcon that made the brothers face and know about demons since pretty much ever). To be completely fair, as much as I love Jimmy and the whole Lucifer arc once it started to make sense… I would’ve been ok if vessels weren’t needed. It added a lot of complications and ended up making the brothers actual serial killers.

Ahem.

After that little gem of wisdom that will be ignored forever, John declares that he will be taking the gun to Meg to avoid more killing and we get another questionable line for Sam. And I am curious as to how to tally it as it’s the opposite of him wanting to leave the hunt, but it’s not that nice either:

DEAN What do we do?

JOHN I'm going to Lincoln. DEAN What? JOHN It doesn't look lilke we have a choice. If I don't go, a lot of people die, our friends die.

SAM Dad, the demon is coming tonight. For Monica and her family. That gun is all we got, you can't just hand it over.

I mean, yes, it is true that the demon is coming for Monica (Well, actually, he’s coming for Rosie, the baby, but I will let that slip pass. Sam is not interested in married ladies), and that with the gun they can kill the demon but it’s not all they’ve got. By this time, Sam has already had his big hero moment when he exorcised a plane in free fall so they could do that, then chase the demon again and then kill it.

But what is jarring is how he hears “a lot of people die, OUR FRIENDS die” and he goes “yeah, whatever, we have a mission to fulfill”.

Which is precisely what later episodes will tell us John used to do, and was the reason why John was not exactly liked by the general hunter population. And at the same time, it’s an eerie reminder of Wendigo, where Sam is willing to let innocents die (his family friends, in this particular case, just as he heard Caleb choke on his own blood) in order to get his way (revenge on the demon that killed Jess. NOT revenge on the demon that killed his mom, since at this point, Sam is still on the “I never knew that woman” train of thought).

Sure, his mind is in the hunt, and that’s commendable because yes, in the long run, killing Azazael would save more innocents (And probably stop the Apocalypse, not that Sam or the writers at that time know it), but it is still strange to see our nominal hero simply not care for his friends’ lives. I mean, at this point WE don’t know about Bobby, so the closest to a parental figure that is not John that Sam had was Pastor Jim and he just DIED.

Worst part is, this could be solved really easy: Just have DEAN be the one who voices the complaint, and have “empathic” Sam mumble that there has to be a way to save everyone (Which, of course, John will mention in a second). It would make Dean look bad, sure, but we’ve been told once and again that Dean never, EVER goes against John plans. Which… not true, ut we will talk about that later. The scene continues, and John declares that he will go to Meg alone, with a fake Colt and while Dean thinks that that won’t work, Sam has a different complaint:

DEAN Yeah but for how long? What happens when she figures it out?

JOHN I just...I just need to buy a few hours, that's all.

SAM You mean for Dean and me. You want us to stay here, and kill this demon by ourselves?

JOHN No Sam. I want to stop losing people we love. I want you to go to school, I want Dean to have a home. I want....I want Mary alive. It's just....I just want this to be over.

And oh, boy. Do this four lines again hold so much weight.

First, once again, Dean seems to be worried for John (logically, he’s their dad), while Sam is making the weirdest line in the universe sort of work because he’s complaining that John is trusting them to kill the demon, something HE wants to do and not four seconds ago was saying they had to do, as if it was John shifting HIS job to Sam. Seriously, I don’t want to think the worst of Sam but when you take out Jared’s acting, the text doesn’t do the younger Winchester’s any favors.

And finally… John’s lines that encompass pretty much Dean’s philosophy in the following seasons. “I want to stop losing people we love” is pretty telling, but what comes next? He actually WANTS Sam to go back to college and not worry about the Supernatural. He actively agrees that Dean doesn’t have a home, and WANTS Dean to have one. It’s as close as love as we’ll see from John to Dean in Season 1, and it hurts. It hurts because we can tell he knows he won’t be there to see it… and now, in hindsight with the finale having aired, we also know Dean didn’t get that. (And to be fair, this is the John who did deserve Heaven. Not the flanderized version we’d get in the future)

Although, ironically, Mary got to be alive again, so… One out of three?

(No, seriously, it’s obvious the writers didn’t even remember this speech when Season 12 hit, much less Season 15)

Ahem.

Dean is sent to get a fake Colt, while Sam and John wait for him. If they talked about anything, we don’t know, but when they exchange guns, Dean voices what we all know is true:

DEAN You know this is a trap don't you. That's why Meg wants you to come alone?

JOHN I can handle her. I got a whole arsenal loaded. Holy water, Mandaic, amulets...

DEAN Dad... JOHN What? DEAN Promise me something. JOHN What's that. DEAN This thing goes south just...get the hell out. Don't get yourself killed all right, you're no good to us dead. JOHN Same goes for you. (There is a long pause) All right listen to me. They made the bullets special for this colt. There's only four of them left. Without them this gun is useless. You make every shot count.

SAM Yes sir.

JOHN Been waiting a long time for this fight. Now it's here I'm not gonna be in it. It's up to you boys now. It's your fight, you finish this. You finish what I started. Understand?

 Again, I wish they remembered all they had to get rid of demons before, you know, killing everyone willy-nilly. I mean, I don’t even think I know what Mandalac IS but hey, John says it works, it works. And once more, Dean gets a line that makes clear he is the empathic, loving brother, when it wouldn’t have hurt Sam to say it. In fact, it would make clear that no matter what, he doesn’t hate John. But nope, Sam only acts like the soldier we’re TOLD Dean is, while Dean makes clear that for him, family is more important than revenge (And boy will that come to bite him in the ass later, not in the series, but in this same episode).

Also, I have to admit. When I started this rewatch, John’s final line was just a good moment for John to start letting go of his anger. Now? After that horrid finale? It hurts so, so much. But it hurts more because I KNOW that there’s no way it was intentional. Obviously, Kirkpe didn’t know the series would last 15 years, and I highly doubt Dabb remembered this scene when writing 15x20. But even so, it ends up being Dean’s epitaph. OUCH.

In any case, the Winchester separate again, and we go into act three. Get ready for the feels.

John Winchester hunting alone is a thing of beauty. Seeing him scope the place, check the water tank and immediately think of a plan? Makes me wish Jeffrey Dean Morgan had stayed longer on the show. Sure, John became an asshole, but in this episode he’s still not that bad, we still have no episodes that make clear he didn’t care for Dean, and wasn’t textually abusive. And I am willing to bet that if JDM had stayed, John would’ve evolved more to be a Bobby-like character. But well, What ifs is not why you came to this meta for.

As John is hunting, the brothers are staking out the house were they know Azazael will attack. And while they talk and decide that they have no way to get the family out (In a nice callback to how none of their excuses ever work) we get to this little gem of an exchange:

SAM I wonder how Dad's doing.

DEAN I'd feel a lot better if we were there backing him up.

SAM I'd feel a lot better if he were here backing us up.

Where once again we see where the brother’s priorities lie, and I wonder why the hell the writers ever thought they were writing Sam as an empathic character.

Because yes, Dean is wishing he could be out there helping his Dad, proving that for him, it has always been about the family. Not the hunting, but the protecting. But Sam doesn’t want to protect John. He wants John protecting Them. And helping them in the revenge hunt, not trying to save others.

Sure, we know the brothers are there to save an innocent mother, but John is also saving a ton of hunters and people who, in the past, were nice and open to the family. And it would’ve been so much easier to make Sam look better if he instead had said “I’d feel a lot better if we hadn’t had to separate” or something like that, that proved he saw BOTH missions were important.

Seriously, I do wonder why the writers made these choices, and I wish someone had asked this at cons.

We go back to John, who, really, Is an amazing hunter even if he is a horrible father. Also, I wonder if he got ordained at a web church, in order to be able to sanctify water. That would be such a John Winchester thing to do, and I do wonder why the boys never did it too. ANYWAY, he hands the gun to Meg, and to her ally that came so that we could have a scene to prove the Colt is fake as the ally shoots Meg.

As John says, Meg was lucky the gun was fake. And once again, I do wonder what the plan was if it WAS the Colt. I mean, Meg was Azazael’s second in command. Why would nameless demon risk killing her? Or did he kinow the gun was fake?

In any case, this makes the moment where we can be 100% sure that Meg’s meat suit 1.0 was dead. I mean, she could’ve survived the fall in Shadow, but a bullet to the chest? No way.

We go back to the brothers, and Sam breaks every single law of a procedural show by giving this great speech about how thankful he is to Dean for everything, and how he needs to say that “in case” something happened.

Dean is definitely not impressed and reminds him that the only one dying today is Azazael.

As we see John temporarily escape from Meg and her muscle boy, we go back to the brothers who see the demon omens start up so they get ready for the final fight.

The brothers manage to save Monica and her baby, despite the very understandable interference from Hubbard, the husband (I mean, you would not react nicely to two strangers intruding in your house and yelling to your wife to not go into the nursery room), however, before Sam can shoot Azazel, he disappears into smoke (A really interesting question here is, WHY did Sam wait to shoot and then wasted a bullet, but I digress).

Going completely against M.O, Azazael makes the CRIB burst into flames, but fortunately Dean has already gotten Rosie out of it so the brothers escape the flaming house. While Monica cries her thanks, Sam notices that Azazael is still inside, and tries to go after him, but Dean stops him because he is not going to lose his brother to the fire. By the way, I am not counting “Dean stopping Sam from going into a burning building” as “Dean forcing Sam to do something” since, uh, he was saving Sam’s life and it’s something anyone in Dean’s place would’ve done.

At the same time, we see John getting captured by Meg and her muscle boy because he didn’t think about getting a third escape route (But honestly? That was pretty much a plot necessity. John was HEAVILY prepared for that fight)

Back in the hotel, Dean is worried that John is not answering his calls, while Sam is furious that Dean didn’t let him kill himself by running into a burning house. They have a nasty fight that mirrors the one they had back in the pilot, but since it IS a fight between the brothers, you know the drill. We’re examining it under Violence.

Once Sam calms down, he tells Dean to try calling John again. Unfortunately, it’s Meg who answers and she tells Dean that they’re never seeing their dad again.

And we get the first “To be continued” for the series (Which to be honest, despite all the little continuity mistakes I mentioned here? Is still pretty epic)

Violence

Well, we had to run out of episodes where the brothers don’t fight each other at some point, didn’t we?

This fight, over Sam wanting to kill himself in his search for revenge, is a very neat parallel to the fight they had back in the Pilot, over Sam NOT wanting to even involve himself in the family’s search for revenge. Which I know it’s supposed to be ironic and a show of character growth since now Dean is the one saying that revenge is not worth their lives but… it falls a little bit flat because the reason why Sam is so gung-ho in killing Azazael is, once again, a very selfish one and the way in he expresses it makes it quite clear. (Again, I do wonder if the writers stopped to think about the implications of Sam only getting really into hunting when it was about him or his losses?)

But let’s start at the beginning:

SAM If you had just let me go in there, I coulda ended all this.

DEAN Sam, the only thing you would have ended was your life.

SAM You don't know that.

DEAN So what, you're just willing to sacrifice yourself, is that it?

SAM Yeah. Yeah you're damn right I am.

DEAN Well that's not going to happen, not as long as I'm around.

This right here? Is a nice summary of the relationship of the brothers for the whole series. Sam wants to do something stupid, like, say, running into a burning building, Dean is there to stop him before he hurts himself.

Also, let’s make clear the use of first person by Sam. It’s not “We coulda ended this”, as in the family ending the hunt, but “I coulda ended this”. Again, at this point, not something that is a problem, but considering hindsight, we can see how the writers are completely invested in SAM as a sole main character, and write him as such, while Dean is more of the sidekick.

In any case, the argument continues, still not escalating to violence.

SAM What the hell are you talking about Dean, we've been searching for this demon our whole lives. It's the only thing we've ever cared about.

DEAN Sam I wanna waste it. I do. Okay? But it's not worth dying over.

SAM What?

DEAN I mean it. If hunting this demon means getting yourself killed then I hope we never find the damn thing.

Important thing how Sam apparently forgot he left for four (two) years and wanted out of the family business, now that he is angry and into the revenge thing. It’s not “You’ve been searching for this demon your whole life”, which would’ve been correct AND a logical counterargument against Dean. Before this episode, Sam was supposedly the brother who understood that revenge was a way of living, while Dean is the one who was Daddy’s little soldier. But here, when it actually would matter to the narrative, it is as if Sam’s wishes for a normal life are completely forgotten and it’s Dean the one who understands that there’s more to living than revenge (Which, btw, is consistent through the season despite everyone claiming that Dean needs Sam to keep hunting. All season, Dean has been giving Sam outs, telling him it’s ok to quit)

And of course, Dean here proves that Sam is more important to him than revenge for his mother, as he is willing to never get to kill the demon as long as his family, his brother in particular, survives.

Poor Dean.

SAM That thing killed Jess. That thing killed Mom.

DEAN You said yourself once, that no matter what we do, they're gone, and they're never coming back.

SAM Don't you say that, not you! Not after all this don't you say that.

DEAN Sam look. The three of us...that's all we have...and it's all I have. Sometimes I feel like I'm barely holding it together man...and without you or Dad....

Unfortunately, script doesn’t quiet convey the scene as there’s a LONG pause between “That thing killed Jess” and “That thing killed Mom”. Enough so that we can believe that Sam is using that second phrase not because he cares (in the Pilot he made clear he didn’t), but to make Dean get on board with the whole “I can kill myself if it means getting revenge” plan. In other words, once again, Sam is weaponizing Mary against Dean, and that is a really nasty habit the younger Winchester never quite shakes out of. Instead, Dean shows how he LISTENED to Sam back in the Pilot and repeats Sam’s words to him on the bridge.

Which is when Sam loses it and pushes Dean against a wall, Dean not defending himself at all, and yells that Dean has no right to say what Sam told Dean the very first hunt they had together after years of separation.

And of course, once Dean mentions their father, Sam starts calming down. NOT when Dean says that he’s barely holding it together, or that he only has them.   Just when he mentions their father who is, in Sam’s mind, the one who can help him get revenge.

The fight ends, but Sam never once apologizes for what he said to Dean, nor for the fight. Which, by the way, contradicts his claim that Dean “always has his back”.

Emotional Violence

Whenever we have John on an episode, we’re going to have to talk about emotional violence and I kind of hate that because on one hand, I get how John could’ve been a very tragic figure that loved his sons but still wanted to avenge his wife, and not being the abusive bastard we know and don’t love that much.

When Sam and Dean explain about Sam’s visions, and how they started as nightmares but have grown in intensity, his reaction is quite subdued, but clear. He is not happy, but the problem isn’t the visions –for a man obsessed with the supernatural, his outward reaction to his younger son being a psychic is quite calm- but that they didn’t inform him of what was going on:

JOHN All right. When were you going to tell me about this?

DEAN We didn't know what it meant.

JOHN All right, something like this starts happening to your brother, you pick up the phone and you call me.

DEAN dumps the coffee jug and cup back on the counter and strides toward JOHN.

DEAN Call you? Are you kidding me? Dad I called you from Lawrence all right? Sam called you when I was dying. I mean, getting you on the phone? I got a better chance of winning the lottery.

JOHN You're right. Although I'm not too crazy about this new tone of yours, you're right. I'm sorry.

And let’s be clear, John’s anger is not directed at Sam, it’s directed at Dean. “Something like this starts happening to your brother” is not “Something like this starts happening to either of you”. Which is also a show of how good an actor JOHN is in universe because WE know that he knew. Missouri TOLD him point blank that Sam was powerful and that he could have known that John was around during the Home episode. But here, he acts as if this was news to him when he could ALSO have told them what to expect if that happened. (Mind you, I am assuming that Sera Gamble knew or remembered about Home’s script when writing this and didn’t just forget or was unaware that John was supposed to know)

Now, all season, Sam has been complaining and yelling about how John doesn’t answer their calls, doesn’t seem to care what’s going on with them. So it’d be logical and in character for Sam to say something here. But instead is DEAN, Dad’s little soldier, the one we’ve SEEN obeying John without question finally have enough and talk back to his father with some truths. And it’s VERY interesting that his first complain is not that John didn’t care that Dean almost died, but that he didn’t reply when Dean called from Lawrence. One could almost infer that Dean expected John not to care if Dean died, but was honestly hurt that he didn’t care about a case that could’ve involved MARY.

John, surprisingly, sort of agrees. He does say “I’m sorry”, which makes him the Winchester who is quicker to say those words… but he still manages to make a threat against Dean “I am not too crazy about this NEW tone of yours”.

Making it clear that before? Dean never talked back. And John doesn’t like it when his soldiers talk back.

It makes it hard to believe John ever thought of Dean as his son and makes it very clear why Dean never understood Sam’s confidence that Dean was the favored one.

Speeches and Apologies

I considered not including this particular speech, but then I remembered that Supernatural is ALSO famous for their big emotional speeches, and this is Sam’s first, and also, Dean’s first time listening to someone he cares about give him the “I am saying goodbye because I am going kamikaze” speech and after all the drama in season 15, I guess it’s necessary to do some dissection.

It is important that despite all the things that Sam has done to Dean, the words “I’m sorry” are never uttered here.

SAM Dean...ah...I wanna thank you. DEAN For what? SAM For everything. You've always had my back you know? Even when I couldn't count on anyone I could always count on you. And ah...I don't know I just wanted to let you know, Just in case DEAN Whoa whoa whoa, are you kidding me? SAM What? DEAN Don't say just in case something happens to you. I don't wanna hear that freaking speech man. Nobody's dying tonight. Not us, not that family, nobody. Except that demon. That evil son of a bitch ain't getting any older than tonight, you understand me?

 This is not a bad “freaking speech”. I understand why Dean didn’t want to hear it, because it is like jinxing the mission (And, let’s be honest, it did), but it’s not a bad speech.

Except that, reading it again, it lacks one important part. Sure, Sam thanks Dean for always being there (Forgetting that, at least three times this season alone, he has accused Dean of not having his back and being unreliable. Which will ALSO be a constant theme in the series’s long run), but he never mentions the times HE did things that would be hard to back up. Which, again, I am not counting as a bad thing against him in this precise moment in time, since he is young, in his roaring roadtrip of revenge, and we’ve only know the brothers for a year, but it is the beginning of a series’ long crutch to make us forgive all of Sam’s sins without him actually doing the work to be forgiven.

On the other hand, it all goes to waste a bit later when Sam starts hitting Dean for the horrible sin of not letting him run into a burning building and kill himself so… it’s not really a “thank you for having my back” speech but a “You better remember, you never fight me and my choices are the best” speech in hindsight. Which… not good on Sam, no.

Double narrative standards

This episode is kind of balanced, except for that little moment where we’re supposed to think Dean is wrong for telling Sam that revenge is not worth their lives. So there’s not much to write in this particular segment.

Final Tally

Ok, back in the saddle. And after all that, I decided not to tally Sam’s little slip about not caring if their loved ones die as long as he gets to kill Azazael. Let me know if you disagree.

The count is still not good on Sam’s side, but as always, you are free to disagree with me, and dm me if you think I missed a tally or I should change one. If your argument is solid and canon based, I will listen to it and may change the numbers.

Numbers (or the TL;DR summary)

(Episode/Total so far)

Times Dean has lied to Sam or to a loved one: 0 / 0

Times Sam has lied to Dean or to a loved one: 0 / 3

Times Dean has been caught in a lie: 0 / 0

Times Sam has been caught in a lie: 0 / 1

Times Dean has hit Sam in anger: 0 / 1

Times Sam has hit Dean in anger: 1 / 4

Times Dean's lies or secrets have caused someone's death: 0 / 0

Times Sam's lies or secrets have caused someone's death: 0 / 1

Times Dean has abandoned (Or wanted to abandon) a hunt in the middle for his own needs: 0 / 0

Times Sam has abandoned (Or wanted to abandon) a hunt in the middle for his own needs: 0 / 7

Times Dean forced Sam to do something: 0 / 0

Times Sam forced Dean to do something: 0 / 7

Secrets kept by Dean: 0 / 1

Secrets kept by Sam: 0 / 2

Times Dean has blamed Sam for something: 0 / 0

Times Sam has blamed Dean for something: 1 / 4

Times Dean has apologized with words to Sam: 0 / 3

Times Sam has apologized with words to Dean: 0 / 2

Times Dean has respected Sam's boundaries and/or rules: 0 / 7

Times Sam has respected Dean's boundaries and/or rules: 0 / 0

Times Dean hasn't respected Sam's boundaries and/or rules: 0 / 0

Times Sam hasn't respected Dean's boundaries and / or rules: 0 / 13

Times Dean has made fun of something Sam does or has: 0 / 6

Times Sam has made fun of something Dean does or has: 0 / 31

Times we focus on Dean's needs: 0 / 1

Times we focus on Sam's needs: 1 / 6

Arc episodes dedicated to Sam: 1 / 7

Filler episodes dedicated to Sam: 0 / 6

Arc episodes dedicated to Dean: 0 / 0

Filler episodes dedicated to Dean: 0 / 4

Arc episodes dedicated to both brothers (or to none): 0 / 2

Filler episodes dedicated to both brothers (or to none): 0 / 2

Dean's Dropped Plotlines: 0 / 1

Sam's Dropped Plotlines: 0 / 2

[uncouth-the-fifth]

I miss you:(

i miss you TOO!! i'm so, so sorry i've been gone, i've just crawled out of the DC Hole of Hell after six years being trapped, and i didn't want to overwhelm you guys with completely different posts. ay dee ech dee ❤

Maybe this is not a universal experience, but I am not used to switching fandoms at ALL. usually i put my whole body, soul and vagina into it and then never give it up, so changing interests is new to me. i had my little hot girl moment with detroit become human, and then after i sorted all of my college stuff i started to feel old and nostalgic... so i committed the oldest of sins and rewatched supernatural. did i plot out an entire reader insert rewrite of season 1? mayhaps. mayhaps i did. is the first chapter already posted? yes 🤡, and i plan to post it here too! if you don't want to see any of my spn garbage feel free to block the #uncouthspn tag ❤

no plans to go back to DC yet, but if you happen to enjoy the other stuff i enjoy, i would love it if you stuck around! also, i have zero plans to delete any of my damian/jon stuff, so peruse it at your leisure ;)

[lumiereandcogsworth]

Hey there Lyd 💖 Hope you're doing well! I know you have impeccable taste (your favorite movie is BATB 2017 after all 😊) and it seems we also have the same taste in TV shows (Anne with an E, The Queen's Gambit) I'm looking for a new show to watch during my lunch break, something soft and not too dark and preferably short. Any suggestions?

oh ho ho!!! i’m honored you’d come to me!! i’ve watched a plethora of shows. i’ll do my best to remember all of them and i hope you find something that sticks!!! i don’t watch any dark stuff, and as far as length goes, i’ll just list it out for ya ! + i’ll put a 🌸 by my personal faves. like yeah sure i recommend any of these but, beloveds, you know?

sit-coms/20 min eps:

that 70s show (8 seasons) 🌸

new girl (7 seasons)

schitt’s creek (6 seasons) 🌸

frasier (12 seasons)

friends (10 seasons) 🌸

parks and recreation (7 seasons) 🌸

the office (9 seasons)

community (6 seasons, but honestly. i only really enjoyed the first four...)

the good place (4 seasons. i actually haven’t finished 4 yet, but i’ve heard amazing things about the finale)

bob’s burgers (11 seasons, still going! i actually haven’t seen it all the way through, but literally 15/10 always a pleasure) 🌸

fresh off the boat (6 seasons. actually also haven’t finished this show but i still recommend!! very funny)

we bare bears (4 seasons & only 10 minute eps!! also haven’t finished but literally such a soft and cute time. you will not be disappointed it’s just a delight)

period dramas - 40 min-1 hr eps:

call the midwife (10 seasons (11 coming!) i love this show so much it’s my current comfort show!!) 🌸

anne with an e (3 seasons) 🌸

the queen’s gambit (1 season)

the great (1 season (2 coming out!))

poldark (5 seasons) (my beloved) 🌸

downton abbey (6 seasons + movie)

the crown (4 seasons (5+6 planned))

bridgerton (1 season (2 coming??) i loved this show, the aesthetic was impeccable, but personally could’ve majorly done without the sexual content!! that’s just me though! and it’s not terribly explicit until ep 5 i think? anyway)

dramas/shows that prove that i actually lied to you and i do watch some “dark” stuff - 40 min-1 hr eps:

law & order: svu (22?? seasons??? i started at 13. it’s not that plot important, start wherever you want. i just watched it for barba, my fictional husband, who’s in 14-19. but don’t watch his last episode because it doesn’t exist<3)

supernatural (15 seasons. yes yes i know there’s a whole bunch of things about spn but i am literally rewatching it right now so it goes on the list!)

hannibal (3 seasons. definitely the darkest of the shows. i watched it with my friend jess, as it is one of her faves. it’s. i mean. you can see who it’s about. but cinematically? it is stunning.)

bojack horseman (6 seasons. this show is actually funny, too! it just has major dark themes and tones. it’s a really good show but it handles serious topics so it’s definitely not a light-hearted show)

legion (3 seasons. i watched this for our boy dan stevens!!! he’s the lead!! but also it’s one of my best friend’s favorite shows and i probably wouldn’t have watched it on my own, ya know? i didn’t love it, but still a good time! but i can talk on it more if you’re interested lmao.)

and last, i won’t go on a youtube tangent but my favorite channel there is watcher and my favorite show on that channel is puppet history!! generally 30 minute eps (i think around 20 episodes currently?? season 3 just finished) and always a good time. but they have other great shows too!! watcher is just 10/10 🌸🌸🌸

[adhdeancas]

Do you have a list of your favorite season 1-3 episodes? I want to get into the first few seasons but I need something to latch onto

oh hell yeah!!! I love seasons 1-3 and as much as I love Cas I never skip over them when I rewatch. There are some real gems of episodes, awesome characters, cool monsters, and Essential Character Building and Family Drama that lets you get into the meat of the dumbass Winchesters

alright these are my picks with reasoning:

Season 1: 

1x01: Pilot - you gotta watch it. Fanfuckingtastic episode all around. ESSENTIAL

1x03: Dead in the Water - honestly i love this ep bc it shows Dean with kids and lets him talk about his trauma. sue me. not essential-essential

1x05: Bloody Mary - Awesome ep, cool monster. Sam backstory. 

1x06: Skin - fucking awesome episode!!! cool monster, good music

1x10: Scarecrow - Awsome!! fun lines, brother drama, cool monster, character entry

1x11: Faith - I know this is three in a row but these are amazing. Faith is your start into Really Hating John Winchester and is just... heartbreaking and good 

1x17: Hell House - not essential essential, it’s the ep that introduces the Ghost Facers and I love them and the monster concept

1x18: Something Wicked - Another Hate John Winchester his sons’ sakes heartbreaking good ep. Yes I know and yes i love it 

1x20-1x22 - These eps are just kind of essential for the Winchester Family Drama and also the Overarching plot. They’re pretty solid episodes too, and I do love the big bad

Season 2: 

2x01: In My Time Of Dying - you will need to watch this ep after the finale of the first season and you will not regret it. it will rip your heart out a little but what doesn’t in this show

2x02: Everybody Loves A Clown - Introduces you to Ellen and Jo and Ash!!!! Essential character growth/progression/tension! creepy ass monster. Dean looking hot in a carnie get-up

2x03: Bloodlust - introduces you to Gordon Walker. God i hate the guy but he is a really cool character

2x05: Simon Said - Introduces you to a fun-ass character and some essential Big Plot stuff. it’s funny and a little shocking

2x08: Crossroad Blues - introduces the Art of the Deal. talks about Robert Johnson which I’m a slut for.

2x10: Hunted - A great round of brother drama along with Big Plot. This ep just has a great rhythm and is really engaging no matter what you look for

2x12: Nightshifter - awesome episode, great musical cues, I believe it introduces you to the love of my life Victor Henrikson. Amazing minor character which Dean adores which I adore. pump it in my veins classic spn 

2x15: Tall Tales - Introduces you to another fun-ass character and has a ton of Suffering Bobby fathering his Bitchy Boys which is hilarious

2x17: Heart - a famous ep for a reason. a great MOTW story and some heartbreak thrown in 

2x18: Hollywood Babylon - a funny MOTW on a horror movie set. an even funnier ep if you know before hand that everything the Network Executive says in this ep is something the Network told SPN writers about SPN. not essential essential

2x19: Folsom Prison Blues - Another just fantastic episode. It’s got Dean inexplicably looking great in an orange jumpsuit and it’s just good.

2x20: What is and What Should Never Be - GOD I HAVE WATCHED THIS EP SO MANY TIMES. it breaks my fucking heart but it’s soooo good

2x21-2x22: Essential end of the season episodes you need for the plot, they also bang really hard. 

Season 3: 

3x01: The Magnificent Seven - it’s got cool demons, it’s got you finding stuff out and brother drama because of that, it’s good

3x03: Bad Day at Black Rock - Introduces you to Bela! who i think is pretty sick. also a funny ep

3x07: Fresh Blood - the follow up to Gordon Walker. A good ep, lots of tension, it’s classic spn to me 

3x08: A Supernatural Christmas - the epitome of classic spn. a funny MOTW ep wrapped up in Christmas wrapped up in sadness

3x10: Dream A Little Dream of Me - you need to watch this episode for Dean’s character development. I don’t know how many times I’ve watched it but due to mental illness gee it might be my most watched. GOOD EP

3x11: Mystery Spot - a CLASSIC spn episode you say? a funny MOTW ep wrapped up in Groundhog Day wrapped up in sadness

3x12: Jus in Bello - I LOVE THIS EPISODE. walking legend victor henrikson (having a little bi moment with dean), ruby, awesome stakes, shock and awe and fun and sadness

3x13: Ghostfacers - remember how I said I love Ghostfacers?? shows how much the winchesters would cuss if they weren’t on the CW/WB. essential viewing for the line :

3x15: Time is on My Side - gives you essential character info about Bela which i AM STILL MAD ABOUT bc Sam and Dean never find out and really amps up the suspense in a way I love

3x16: In My Time of Dying - this is a good episode. this episode will punch you in the gut. yes i’m sorry yes you must go through it welcome

(^^ in case you didn’t know, season 3 only has 16 episodes because there was a writers’ strike around this time and they couldn’t finish the season without writers!! which led to them finishing the season early and then bringing Cas in because they didn’t know what else to do! talk about divine intervention, hell yes to unions)