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thinking about this poll again, about the different temporary or erased dax hosts in ds9, and i keep getting stuck on how strange yedrin dax is. "children of time" reads like double-edge of optimism, where the fragility of mere existence is the whole point and so despicably inevitable, so so imaginatively sad. and that sadness centers a lot on this character who is, through no fault of his own, utterly reliant on the entrapment of a group of people who truly did not mean to cause him to exist.
and it's strange because yedrin is a descendant of jadzia, because only a descendant of jadzia could pass on the symbiont. and it's strange that they trills in the settlement tried to so hard to protect this tradition but can only pass the symbiont onto the same family of people over and over--upholding the tradition on the surface but demeaning its spirit in practice (wasn't the whole point of banning reassociation for jadzia and lenara that the symbiont has to be given the opportunity to experience many varied lives? obviously, jadzia wouldn't have cared about this but it's still an explicitly important part of trill culture that could not have been easily forgotten, given the fact that the symbiont, famously, remembers). and it's strange because yedrin while being dax's great grandson is also dax. he knows more intimately than any other person in their colony what precisely jadzia did, what she gave up, and how she "decided" to embrace the life before her. he knows what the world is like outside their settlement. he knows what it is they all had to get back to. and it's strange that yedrin, in the end, can only make a selfish choice: let the defiant crew go so the parts of him that are jadzia and trill can live freely or force them to stay so he might exist. it's strange because we're led to believe that yedrin did choose the crew, at first, through sisko's theorizing.
i mean imagine meeting your great grandmother who is also you and discovering that you both sort of hate yourself for the same reasons. and you both feel obligated to fix something you feel you've broken. jadzia feels guilty for crashing the defiant there in the first place; yedrin feels guilty for the fact that all of their existences rely on jadzia's unintentioned crash (shouldn't their lives mean more than that? what cursed knowledge to have). jadzia choosing to go along with what the rest of the crew decide, to a fate already written, is just one step towards the inevitability of yedrin's guilt and subsequent actions.
it's strange because is yedrin even a person? sisko says "they existed. as long as we remember them"--which is definitely an appeal to the alien-conceit of trills, i.e., memories. where, like, to exist is to be remembered, essentially, and so the symbiont and the trill are tasked with remembering as much as they are able, reifying the existence of not only each host's lives, but the lives of everyone the host interacted with. jadzia may be more loyal to the people in her life than the higher-order values of her culture but odo's forced answer to the problem ends up emphasizing those values in a way that yedrin couldn't. he was stuck and would always be stuck in a circle where the fragility of existence was a threat and he could only reify what he knew by trying to trap others into his choices. he wasn't a champion of memory but of reproduction, in a way. to care about memory is to care about the implied reality of memory: nothing lasts.
anyway, imagine meeting your great-grandmother who is also you, knowing you are going to force her and yourself to live a life she didn't really choose, knowing everything she and you carry, and you introduce yourself:
"Yedrin Dax."
And she says:
"What a coincidence."
And you already knew she was going to say that, maybe, and you're only now realizing that you're starting a fragile cycle that can't ever be broken, truly reproduction through snake eating its own tail, and that's what she said: "What a coincidence." bc that's the strangest thing about yedrin. he doesn't know how to be ironic. he can't keep a running commentary. he can't step back. he's sincere or he doesn't even exist. which makes him either a pseudo-person or so so weird. wyrd, even. the face of life as certainty. i mean, what must he have felt seeing jadzia's face for the first time. the burden of her and there she is, joking: "What a coincidence."
like, to yedrin it isn't a coincidence. it's genesis.
Verad was the one who resented not being chosen as a host by the Symbiosis Commission so much that he took over Deep Space Nine and forced Jadzia to give the Dax symbiont to him before he was overpowered and the symbiont was returned to Jadzia.
Joran was the musician who was joined with Dax after Torias died suddenly. Joran went on to murder several people. The Trill government covered up the entire incident and blocked Joran from Dax’s memory, but the memories eventually resurfaced.
Yedrin was Jadzia’s descendant in the alternate timeline in Children of Time caused by Jadzia’s mistake in leading the Defiant to the planet where they were all pulled back in time. Yedrin tried to trick the crew of the Defiant into recreating the conditions of the accident in order to make sure his colony survived. Yedrin was erased from time with that entire timeline.
#oh i wanted him and jadzia to have way more tense as hell conversation#i would watch like a half-season arc about them#also sorry op for adding so much on. had a thought and accidentally wrote all this#yedrin#jadzia dax#star trek#ds9#ep: children of time
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"if I hadn't realized what he had done"-- there are two very separate people in this sentence. the verb tenses are insane, too, because, like, kira is dead. but here jadzia is trying to blame yedrin for the second death-yet-to-come. making this the first time that jadzia has not claimed the shared-person of the symbiont as some form of self. maybe it's because yedrin is a future Self? but it doesn't ring true to how jadzia has acted about her various Persons before. in an almost mirror to the fake-doubling/separation that yedrin has "proposed" as a way for the crew to leave the planet while also staying, jadzia is not claiming yedrin's actions, even if he is technically jadzia (and curzon and joran and...) as well as himself. his decision to lie to them belongs, in some part, to her--it has to, since joined trill have never been shown to be able to truly distinguish their complex actions and decisions from one person to the other.
which means that jadzia is in this scene not just realizing she's responsible for kira's death (i mean, she's not) from the first time through the barrier but also responsible for kira's death again for this maneuver from yedrin (which, like, yes. she is within yedrin the whole episode. there are in fact two jadzias present).
with all time-traveling stories, there's a circular nature, since it's not like any of us are capable of imagining going faster than the speed of causality and escaping the single-direction-move along the temporal dimension of all 3D beings; which inevitably turns our time-travelling-stories into closed-circuit-deterministic-circular narratives or makes us lose our minds about butterfly theory. which is probably why the character who seems most comfortable with this whole situation is kira who's used to considering a future-already-written as just a law of reality. she references the prophets to odo and the others several times and you can't really argue that much with her because so far everything her gods have spoken has come true.
but jadzia i think is running up against determinism here not just from the situation itself (her future being told to her by her ancestors and the future dax host--her obvious discomfort with the idea of marrying worf according to their relationship in the present moment with the sort of flip side that is miles's discomfort with marrying someone who is not his wife in the present moment). in addition, i think she's struggling with the determinism associated with being joined. there's a weight to the fact that her person is not wholly controlled by her but cannot be separated from her. would jadzia choose to let kira die? no, not at first. but then she does because that's what kira wants--and everyone else sort of agrees. would jadzia lie in this way yedrin does to get her way? would jadzia "save" the lives of 8000 at the sacrifice of one? would jadzia betray her own self? would jadzia take a very difficult decision out of the hands of a past life, another self? she can't answer that question now, but also she can--because a future self does all of that, a future self that cannot be separated from her.
before this episode, obligations to the past-lives of the symbiont seemed to come easy to jadzia. well, not easy, but she doesn't spend a lot of time struggling with accepting them and carrying their burdens. here, she realizes she will be a burden for yedrin. so, on top of everything she thinks she's to blame for, she also now has to confront yedrin's existence, who carries kira's death as jadzia would. all of this seems exactly the kind of thing that jadzia, who will happily deal with the consequences of her past lives' crimes or the personal heartbreak of her own decisions, is not prepared for. she has not yet been in a situation where someone else has to carry her.
#jesus louiseus this episode!#jadzia dax#ds9#star trek#still got a lot of kiradax thoughts yet to be written because of course i do
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Yedrin Dax from Star Trek Timelines, 2022
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Only Time
by Donna, unknown year
Even with Yedrin's modified plan, Kira would be gone and he would never know this bliss again. The Kira from his own time would die and he would be doomed to be alone.
Set during the Deep Space Nine episode "Children of Time".
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Characters: Odo, Kira Nerys
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god "children of time" is such a good episode, they did a good job with going back and forth whether the colony would be saved, and by the end I had no idea what was gonna happen
#but i for sure knew it was odo. like sisko and jadzia were like huh why would yedrin do that??? no bro definitely odo#i mean i know why they thought that but i immediately knew it was odo#ds9#deep space nine#ds9 children of time#ds9 5x22#naomi watches ds9
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Or— be like Dax: Play Tongo at the Local Joint with your Wild Ferenguis! Pilot cool crafts for FuN while Indoctrinationing Newbies; Discovering New Wormwholes with Your Old Bestie, or Creating Experimental New Ones with The Old Wife; even Crashlanding while Going on Rogue Missions to Bajor with your New Best Gal!! Throw raving parties in your Private Quarters where your friends end up staying up all night until the wee hours of the Morn. Take Your Sweetheart, The XO, on Crazy Adventurous & Sexy Dates on The Holo-Suites. Reconnect with ALL of Your Past Lives. Date ALL. Bajorans, Gallamites, Klingons & Humans. And whatever you do—Do NOT Kiss n Tell. Fulfill Your Old Oaths. Even when it means going Rogue. Again. Play a musical instrument, preferably The Piano (or Keyboards). Confront Your Shadow Self...and maybe even use your Dark Side for Good. Help Your Friends Through each of their Existential Crisis in EVERY LifeTime. And, every now & then, switch bodies complete with new Sex/Gender during your RE-Birth!
It annoys me how a common trope on Star Trek is ‘tee hee, I’m a workaholic, I have twenty stardates of leave saved up because I never take a break’ and that’s supposed to be something we admire. Take a holiday, idiot. Especially if you’re the boss. Set a fucking example. It’s the future now and you’re better than this toxic shit.
#if i missed anything let me know#be like dax#the many lives of dax#joran dax#curzon dax#jadzia dax#ezri dax#live life to the fullest#live life to the max#Star Trek#ds9#dax#Kira dax#kiradax#jadziadax#star trek deep space nine#star trek deep space 9#leela dax#tobin dax#audrid dax#emony dax#torias dax#verad dax#yedrin dax
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I find the genetic compatibilities of the aliens in Star Trek FASCINATING. I could easily spend hours reading about all the ways various species are/are not compatible—if someone’s written an essay or paper on this please point me in its direction.
The cultural differences are interesting too, don’t get me wrong, but damn do I love seeing how different phenotypes manifest. I’m talking about how Ziyal’s Bajoran heritage softened the Cardassian ridges of her face, Yedrin Dax’s diluted Trill spots, and the subtle Klingon traits in Worf’s descendants in Children of Time.
#star trek#tos#tng#ds9#voy#not to be gross or anything but when weyoun said he found interspecies mating rituals fascinating to watch i felt that#i was that kid in science class who was thrilled to do complex Punnet squares#if I was a Trek character I’d probably be a xenobiologist or xenoanthropologist
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So, the Symbiosis Commission had created this myth that only a very tiny percentage of the Trill population could serve as a host. After “Equilibrium” it was revealed that this wasn’t quite true. And “Children of Time” indicated that compatibility was even less rare than thought (after all, Yedrin Dax, the host in that episode, was a distant descendant of Jadzia’s - since she was the only Trill on the Defiant, that means he only had a tiny bit of Trill in him - so apparently you don’t even have to be full-blooded trill - or even mostly Trill - to serve as a host). So, the fact that Ezri was able to be a host isn’t that surprising
But what I’m wondering is this: the Commission continued the cover-up after Equilibrium. So, as far as anyone on Trill knew - and this would’ve included the doctors who implanted Ezri - the odds that a random Trill would be suitable as a host would be virtually nill. So, was the official story that Ezri just happened to be one of those one-in-a-thousand who could be a host? That it was just some amazingly improbable coincidence? Seems like that would be quite a stretch to convince people. “Wow! We were really incredibly lucky that the one Trill on board just happened to be one of those ultrarare people who can serve as a host! What a lucky break!”
You gotta figure that there were probably already rumors that the Commission was lying, and news would get out about Ezri, which would be seen (correctly so!) as proof of that lie
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Why is reassociation banned?
This is an excellent question. Most people are familiar with the official line from the Symbiosis Commission, the one that’s enshrined in the relevant legislation: that Joining is meant to expand the life experience of the symbiont, and that reassociation prevents that kind of growth. When Lenara and I wanted to be together that answer seemed trite, ill-conceived and limiting.
It wasn’t until a year and a half later that I understood the real reason for the taboo.
On the colony world known as Gaia, I met my descendant and successor, Yedrin Dax. Yedrin was the latest in a line of Dax hosts who were all members of the same family, all bearing Jadzia’s DNA. For 200 years, Dax had lived in the same community, performed essentially the same role within that community, and constantly violated the spirit, if not necessarily the letter, of the reassociation taboo.
The result was startling and dismaying. In two short centuries, Dax had stagnated. The symbiont that is the most dynamic, imaginative, adventurous, and open-minded part of me had become small, limited, comfortable, and willing to do anything to keep from disrupting that comfort. The machinations of Yedrin Dax -- devious actions pursued, so far as I know, without consultation with any of the other colony leaders -- alarmed me; not only because of what they meant for the present me, Jadzia Dax, and for my friends, but because of what they said about the kind of being Dax became when allowed to grow too rooted in one way of life.
Without the taboos against reassociation, Trill truly would risk all symbionts becoming like Yedrin Dax: tyrannical, domineering, and paternalistic, convinced they knew at all times what is best for the Unjoined population. In effect, we would run the risk of creating a ruling class of symbiont despots, passed down through limited family lines to a small pool of hosts. The variety, creativity, and egalitarian beauty Trill society has sought to build through our centuries of Federation membership would be lost in favour of a colourless but “comfortable” status quo. It is the constant evolution of experience and perspective that keeps the symbionts growing, and it is growth that keeps us humble, democratic, and loving.
For an individual couple, like Lenara Kahn and Jadzia Dax, reassociation is heartbreaking. For Trill society as a whole, it is absolutely essential. I learned an important lesson from Yedrin Dax, and I will never forget him.
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It occurred to me that the premise of the DS9 episode Children of Time (which I love) could also be an interesting story if told about the Voyager crew. There’s some discussion in Voyager of what it would be like if they stopped trying to reach the Alpha Quadrant and lived on a planet somewhere, but it never feels like a true possibility (with not a single member of the crew electing to do so in The 37’s), except in scenarios where there’s literally no other choice, like Resolutions. So it would be interesting to see how the crew would respond to a situation that morally demanded that they all give up hope of returning home. How would each of the crew react to seeing a civilization of their descendants? Who would advocate for staying (and preserving the timeline in which their descendants live) and who would advocate for leaving (and destroying the timeline and erasing all their descendants from history)?
Assuming that this episode took place during Voyager season 5: The EMH would be the only original crew member still alive, presumably. I could absolutely see a several hundred-year-old EMH trying to trick the Voyager crew into staying like Yedrin Dax did in DS9. I think the younger EMH would argue for staying – he has a strong “do no harm” mentality about things like that and he has no particular desire to get to the Alpha Quadrant. However, I do think he would have an extreme moral crisis and possibly mental breakdown upon learning that his future self lied to them.
Apart from the EMH, I think Chakotay would strongly advocate for staying, particularly given how he dealt with the situation in Resolutions. I think B’Elanna would be slightly more conflicted but also argue for staying, seeing it as a moral imperative to preserve the lives of their descendants. Neelix would strongly advocate for staying and would become super attached to their descendants’ kids. I think Seven would be the strongest advocate for leaving, but would also struggle with the morality of it and whether erasing people from time truly counts as killing them. Tom would very initially argue for leaving, but then get attached to one of his descendants who thinks he’s super impressive and change his mind. I’m conflicted about Harry’s position. I think he’d argue for leaving, but I’m not sure. I’m also conflicted about what Tuvok’s stance would be. I could see him being pretty neutral and mostly going along with what Janeway is arguing for, before making an argument at a pivotal point that changes Janeway’s perspective. Janeway would probably initially argue for leaving but become more and more conflicted as time went on, maybe somewhat similar to Sisko in the DS9 episode. This could also lead to some interesting tension between Janeway and Chakotay.
#star trek voy#star trek ds9#lane posts#there are a lot of potential ways this theoretical episode could resolve as well#with maximum potential for the characters to feel guilt and grief#it would fit well into voyager season 5#as always feel free to disagree with what i've said here#i always love hearing people's different perspectives
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not done thinking about the impact of this decision to go back in time, within in the story--the drama, the implications, the existentialist commitment--so i wrote out a possible version of the letter jadzia records for her mother, right before they switch the helm to auto-pilot (metaphorically and actually).
To my mother:
I am sorry--for my incoherence. I normally have a script for this sort of thing, but today the scripts are lost. Maybe because now everything has already been scripted, in an impossible loop. So for this, I’m expressing some unique regrets. This is the message you never hoped you would get--a message you never hoped you would get that you will enjoy far less than that message you never hoped you would get. For that and many other reasons, I am of course sorry. I don't have long. But really, I have so much time and I do not want it. (Actually, I’m sorry for saying that. I want my time in life, I promise. I am sorry for causing you pain.)
Aren’t I just sorry about so many things, now? If I could look at myself from the outside, I would even venture to call myself pathetic. Perhaps that’s what Yedrin sees—the girl who couldn’t save her friend, the girl who couldn’t move on, the girl who is now him, the girl who caused this whole nightmare to begin with.
(I expect the mission briefing being transmitted with all our farewell missives will explain who Yedrin is for you. And what it is I have done.)
The fact is, mother, I am still alive. I am just in a place where you can’t reach me. Time is trapping me, as well as several thousand promises in the shape of people. They want to live and Kira wants them to live so now I will go back to ensure it. I will do what has been reported of their history to ensure that history is written. I will marry Worf and bear countless children and when I do eventually die a generation from now, Dax will go on to another—as is custom. So you see, I am still alive and will remain so long after you read this.
What should I even ask you to mourn, is the question. I’m already mostly absent from your life, at least physically. If I were not to go on this journey back in time, I would still be so far away from you, by so many light-years, that by relative standards we would still be separated by time. Distance is time and time is space—when dealing with quantities like this. Me in a starship, you home… listening to a message I recorded for you a month ago about some organic stone that grows like a plant. (I am sorry, that you have been even for a moment an afterthought to my curiosity. Or maybe I’m not sorry, for still I’ve been gone. Caring more about stones than anything else.) My being on this planet and deliberately stranding myself two hundred years in the past is hardly going to change the status quo, excepting a handful of visits.
Yet, I am sorry. I’m sorry, too, for even trying to pretend like this isn’t the end of something. You will probably not be satisfied to know I’m doing this in service to others. I personally can’t think you selfish for preferring your daughter in the same instantaneous slice of time. But I won’t waver from this, now that it’s decided.
It’s the end of Kira’s life and it is also the end of mine. You’ll accuse me of being dramatic, but I have no intention of labeling this next performance as something as wild and unique and fresh and interesting and fun as life. There’s no real death to it, either—for someday I am will come stumbling down onto this planet again and start this letter to you over once more. Maybe.
Do you remember when I told you about the proto-universe that we had to set back in the wormhole? You said it reminded you of working with delicate coral polyps in your garden, making sure there are enough of them upon each branch, that they are flowering and not crowding, that they are able to eat. That has stayed with me for longer than you know—the image of great dark-energy corals, holding little polyp universes on their colorful bones. And your work, it is something mundane, humble—you’ll call me elitist for saying so—but it’s true. Also true is the fact that I do not wish to do humble work, even if it is beautiful like your garden. I like gardens to stay where I can think about them—in the dark—not where I have to do the digging myself, where the digging is just for planting and not for studying. You’ll say again I’m elitist for drawing that distinction. But my place is in a lab, hitting my head on a fume-hood and taking my time stirring a solution with my glass-stirrer. Because I like the sound it makes against the beaker.
I will think of your coral garden for the rest of my life. I will think of Trill and its amethyst ocean and skies and grass. I will think of my dear father and sister and, of course, you, mother. I hope you will think of me too, doing something different than planting crops: maybe living a life off-planet, discovering a smart fungus that would make father scrunch his nose in distaste…and make you smile.
I would give so many things to return to you. But, alive or not, I am now lost.
I will try to be happy—I have been assured I will find some happiness, even if now it is hard to comprehend. And I’ll play the stone-tossing games, that you taught us when were little, with my own inevitable children. We’ll do what you always showed us how to do. We’ll have a lot of fun.
Your daughter, Jadzia.
#i know first person pov fic is considered cringe but i wanted to write the letter goddamnit#had to work out some thought i had#ds9#star trek#jadzia dax#children of time
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Star Trek DS9 Rewatch Log, Stardate 1909.02: Missions Reviewed, “Ferengi Love Songs,” “Soldiers of the Empire,” and “Children of Time.”
Quark’s bar is overrun with voles as “Ferengi Love Songs” opens, and Rom tries to cheer him up by announcing his engagement to Leeta. That of course fails miserably, so Rom suggests Quark go visit Moogie on Ferengenar. Quark goes there to find the Grand Nagus hiding in his closet, where the head of the Ferengi financial empire is having a secret love affair with Quark’s mom Ihska!
Quark immediately begins to propose that Zek reinstate his Ferengi Business License, but Zek refuses. He sees another opportunity though when Brunt, FCA, beams into his closet to offer the license back in exchange for Quark breaking up Zek and Moogie so the Nagus doesn’t get caught in a scandal. Meanwhile, Rom, thinking he’s not being Ferengi enough creates a prenup for Leeta that prevents her from ever owning property or making profit. This of course ends the engagement. When he laments to O’Brien, O’Brien ask him what Leeta’s worth. Rom donates all of his latinum to Bajoran war orphans, so when Leeta marries him he will know it is for love. On Ferenginar, Zek, grateful to Quark for letting him know about “rumors” that Ishka was making profit, appoints him as first clerk. Quark realizes that Zek is having memory problems, and Ishka has actually been the brains behind the great Ferenginar expansions of the last couple of fiscal years. When the Ferengi market tanks, the FCA wants to bring Zek in for questioning, and Quark realizes Brunt set all of this up so he could seize the position of Nagus. When the inquiry comes, Zek aces it, and the FCA has to back off. Zek thanks Quark, who tells him all the advice actually came from Ishka, and that they should really be together.
With the couple reunited, Brunt decides to let Quark keep his business license, just so Brunt can watch him like a hawk. Ishka gives Quark back his favorite toys as a kid, “Marauder Mo” action figures, that would have been worth more left in the original packaging.
Quark’s ever cascading financial difficulties come to a head in this episode, but he manages to pull it all together. The romance is pretty funny, as is the internal workings of Ferengi society. We see Cecily Adams step into the role of Ishka here since Andrea Martin who played her earlier couldn’t continue to wear the extensive prosthetics. Wallace Shawn is always great as Zek, and Jeffrey Combs really needs his own Star Trek series where he just plays every role. Also- bonus picture of Quark with his Marauder Mo figures, sporting the energy whips the Ferengi had on TNG when they were really meant to be the villains.
“Soldiers of the Empire” has Martok take command of the Rotarran, a Bird of Prey with a bad history and broken crew who need to find a missing Klingon cruiser along the Cardassian border. He asks Worf to be his First Officer, and Jadzia signs on as science officer. Morale on the ship is bad, and as they conduct their mission, Worf begins to suspect that Martok may be a little gunshy after his time in Jem’Hadar custody.
The crew is volatile, some defeatist, some ready to try to overthrow Martok the old fashioned way, some simply apathetic, their fire gone. When Martok orders them NOT to fire on a lone Jem’Hadar over whom they could have an easy victory, things get worse; when they find the other Klingon ship, but Martok won’t cross the border to rescue survivors, it comes to a head. Worf orders the Rotarran ahead anyway and challenges Martok to combat. As they fight, Worf gets the advantage, but suddenly the tide shifts, and Martok sinks a knife into his gut.
The crew now behind him, his warrior spirit ignited, Martok leads them to rescue the other Klingons and fight some Jem’Hadar. Back on DS9 Martok confronts Worf, telling him he realizes exactly what he did; unified the crew and re-energized Martok by losing. “But how did you know I wouldn’t kill you?” Martok asks. Worf replies that he didn’t. Martok in gratitude adopts Worf into the House of Martok.
All Klingons, all the time! This episode really does play out as if the show were just about the Rotarran, and it gives us a good chance to see the Klingons up close, and not just as the monolith warrior culture, but as having personalities, and differences, and there being diversity among them; there are red-head and blonde Klingons in this episode! I definitely see a few things they do here that will later inform how the Klingons are portrayed on “Discovery.” They finally show us some uniform variants here, and we get to see some of what passes for nautical custom in the Klingon fleet when Worf requests the ship’s “battle log.” Worf becoming part of Martok’s house is going to have ramifications later. I have heard people complain that Jadzia is too good at being Klingon sometimes, but when you take into account that Terry Farrell is six feet tall, I can buy her handling herself here.
“Children of Time” has the Defiant returning from a mission in the Gamma Quadrant when Dax surveys a planet with a strange energy barrier around it. Though everyone is tired, she convinces them to go investigate. When they enter the barrier, they get some damage, it will take a couple days to fix, and Kira gets a zap from her console. They find a mostly human settlement of 8000 people on the surface, which hails them, and seems to know who they are. Beaming down, they find a Yedrin Dax and a Miranda O’Brien. Scanning, Jadzia finds that Yedrin is carrying the Dax symbiont…and it is 200 years older.
The colonists tell them that in two days the Defiant will try to leave the planet, and instead crash after being thrown back in time by the energy barrier. These are their descendants. Further complicating the issue is that the zap Kira received has created a condition which will kill her if she doesn’t receive treatment in a full hospital. But if the Defiant does go back, 8000 people, and their preceding generations cease to exist. Still alive is Odo, who comes to visit Kira, and tells her that he loves her, and has always loved her. Yedrin meanwhile has a plan to allow the same effect that “doubled” all of Kira’s quantum particles to allow one version of the Defiant to escape, and another to complete its destiny a go back in time to preserve the colony. Jadzia soon realizes it is a sham. The crew debates whether they can leave, saving Kira but allowing the rest to poof out of existence, or stay. As the day arrives they decide to help the people plant their crops, despite the fact it will all be gone when Defiant leaves. Worf works with the local “Klingons” who are his descendants both physically and philosophically- anyone can decide to take on the warrior life and hunt as the Klingons out on the plains.
Older Odo spends more time with Kira (“modern” Odo can’t hold form under the energy field, but old Odo has had centuries to practice), and she realizes she cannot allow her life to supersede 8000 others. O’Brien, who initially just wanted to back to his family, now sees that they can’t let these people die- worse, never to have existed at all. The Defiant crew decides to go ahead with the course that will make them crash. Yedrin gives them a preprogrammed course, and they follow it. The anomaly that will throw them back looms ahead, and then the Defiant swerves around it. As they leave the energy field, a scan back to the planet shows there has never been a colony there. Initially, they believe Yedrin Dax gave them a false course, choosing not to sacrifice their futures for the colony, but Odo, now back, reveals that the colony’s Odo linked with him, and he was the one who changed the course because he refused to let Kira die, and hoped there might be some chance that Odo could find happiness with her.
A really great episode, that sells the descendants of our crew exceptionally well, particularly all the O’Briens and the Klingon “tribe.” A really fascinating way as well to bring Odo’s love for Kira to the light, and not to avoid the tragic ending. There may be some inconsistency with Trek time travel here, as the creation of alternate realities is the norm when things are changed, but the tragedy of this group of people simply winking out of existence works effectively here. The romantic in my can accept the quantum “Parallels” and “Trek 2009” version that says there’s a timeline where the Children of Time still exist, but their disappearance still hits pretty hard. This is the “Trolley Problem” presented to us as only Science Fiction can, and it works with terrific—and sorrowful—effect.
NEXT VOYAGE: The final fate of the Maquis is settled in a “Blaze of Glory.”
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Manchester City 1-0 Newcastle 18 victoires consecutives
Saison 2017-18, la guerre de la Ligue Premiership 20, le défi invité Manchester City Newcastle. La première moitié, Aguero a tiré dans la colonne, Kompany blessure au dos et a été remplacé Jésus, au sein de De Bulao aide Stirling cassé, Manchester City la tête, Otamendi contribution essentielle à la rescousse. La deuxième moitié, Aguero a cassé le premier vide. Finalement, le match s'est terminé, Manchester City a battu Newcastle 1-0, remportant 18 victoires en championnat.
Historiquement, les deux parties ont joué 174 fois, Newcastle à 70 victoires, 39 nuls et 65 défaites dominent. Cependant, au cours des 11 dernières années contre 19 matchs, Newcastle n'a pas gagné Manchester City. Dernier tour de la ligue, Manchester City 4-0 à la maison pour Bournemouth grande pause, la Premier League ho de prendre 17 victoires consécutives jeu, le cycle actuel s'emploiera 18 victoires consécutives. maillots de foot En outre, Manchester City loin dans la ligue a 10 victoires consécutives, sera en mesure de gagner ce tour aussi longtemps que Chelsea a égalé la ligue loin pour créer série de victoires, les Blues avaient terminé 10 Premier League loin victoires consécutives dans la saison 2007-08 des miracles.
Le match a commencé, Newcastle a pris le départ. Les 4 premières minutes, Otamendi a choisi le tir à longue portée, mais la balle a été tirée en partie. Les 7 premières minutes, Fernandinho en diagonale a quitté la zone réglementée, Aguero a frappé le poteau après que le bouchon a frappé la colonne pop-up. Quatre minutes plus tard, Newcastle passe des erreurs après le terrain, Aguirre a marqué un but, Derbyshire a tiré au-dessus de la barre. Par la suite, Kompany ne peut pas insister pour être blessé, remplacé par Gususi Si.
Les 17 premières minutes, Manchester City obtenir le bon positionnement avant les jeux coup occasion, le ballon dans la surface de réparation pour ouvrir Debu Lao, Aguero grab avant de hocher la balle du centre, la balle était Elliot a sauvé la ligne de fond. Les 22 premières minutes, Danilo a reçu un coup de pied de large kick étendu Stirling. Les 24 premières minutes, Aguero a envoyé des fronts offensifs, la prise de chaleur insérée la balle a été résolue par Eliot.
Les 26 premières minutes, Otamendi a envoyé tout droit sur le terrain, Debrau au sommet de l'arc a ouvert le volley-ball défensif mis des canons antiaériens. Les 30 premières minutes, Aguero vient aussi tirer de longs coups, faisant glisser la balle au-dessus de la porte. Les 31 premières minutes, Derbyshire a envoyé la balle en haut à gauche à la zone réglementée, Stirling suivre un petit angle sur le tir de la pelle, 1-0, Manchester City sur la route de mener.
Les premières 34 minutes, Yedrine passer à droite après le point, Walker a semblé tomber, Arons balle lob, la balle était Otamendi siège à la ligne de porte. Les 40 premières minutes, la chance de contre-attaque de Manchester City, après avoir connu une série de passes, dans Debu Lao achat maillot de foot gauche balle de jeu de base, le défenseur de Newcastle grotte tête, le point Tui a été refusé le joueur défensif de la ligne de fond après Aguero.
La première moitié s'est terminée, Manchester City 1-0 loin.
Batailles latérales faciles, Manchester City hors de la balle. Les 56 premières minutes, De Browne dans le tir de la zone réglementée gauche pied de la ligne de fond. Les 61 premières minutes, Newcastle a enlevé Joselu, a remplacé le gaélique. Les 65 premières minutes, Der Blaune à l'intérieur et à l'extérieur de la colonne pop-up de tir à longue portée, Aguero raté tir mais hors-jeu, le but est invalide. Les 68 premières minutes, Aguero a traversé obliquement vers la zone restreinte, la meneuse de Newcastle avant que le sauvetage ne se fasse presque d'Oolong.
Les 75 premières minutes, Gael est tombé à la zone réglementée après la chute, l'arbitre qu'il fausse et produire un carton jaune. 77 minutes, Manchester City enlevé Aguero, mis sur Mangala. 5 minutes plus tard, les remplacements de Manchester City à nouveau, Saney a remplacé Bernardo maillot foot enfant - Silva. Les 89 premières minutes, Newcastle Pilgrims sur la gauche, Gael a fermé la porte se secoue légèrement.
Finalement, le match s'est terminé, Manchester City a battu Newcastle 1-0, remportant 18 victoires en championnat.
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Miranda O’Brien and Yedrin Dax.
I can already tell I’m gonna freaking love this episode.
#wanawp#star trek#ds9#children of time#obrien#dax#kira#sisko#worf#odo#i already know#a#good episode#a good episode
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it's how she considers sisko's theory, that it was yedrin who ultimately programmed the ship to not be flung back in time "again," how she considers and then very easily accepts that it was yedrin and then smiles and simply walks away from it. like, even though everything is sort of awful, and there was no good option for her, she's glad that yedrin did what sisko says he did.
i think it's something to do with how sisko said the people on the planet would always exist as memories. an idea that jadzia would be particularly sensitive to: an existence that is forever a memory. whatever her smile her is meant to indicate, the line about "memory" convinces her of something. she accepts that the sacrifice of these people is not un-complex, that the sanctity of remembering them will just be another set of memories for her to carry and honor, and she puts no argument up that it was not yedrin--it was not herself-- that reprogrammed the autopilot to take them away from the settlement and save kira's life. and then she walks off.
the fact that it's either odo or jadzia who did it---wrote over the 8000 lives in the service of one---is fascinating, when comparing either option to the other. odo does it explicitly to save kira's life for the present-odo. if jadzia were to have done it, it would have been through yedrin, who, according to sisko, felt for the whole of the crew, who were varying levels of accepting of a determined future. odo does something ultimately selfish (which i find compelling and am personally convinced by because, like, it's not the same as murder and kira was clearly accepting her death bc she was primed by her faith, which is not rational behavior and i'm glad odo was capable of saving her from it). so odo is somewhat selfish and jadzia is somewhat complicated because there simply is no option for her that does not result in a loss of life. the selfish decision of hers was already made. jadzia wanted to discover something on a new planet.
between the balance of pain and the balance of lives or "lives": jadzia comes out of the episode more burdened with more memories but retaining the thing that is most important to her, as expressed in her actions at the beginning of the episode: she's not stuck on a planet in a long-term relationship she's not sure she wants to be long-term. she's in starfleet, still able to discover things on other planets and beyond.
and to be honest, whether or not the argument is deliberate, that's an argument being made/question being asked. what's more important: scientific discovery or individual lives? or, what's more important: the potential diversity and expansion of understanding/knowledge of scientific work or a seemingly idyllic pastoralism produced from some closed-circle timeline and characters whose lives are written and reproduced perhaps happily or perhaps not, just according to the base survivalism of 48 stranded people (and now the knowledge of what comes)?
the fact that the episode leaves off with kira's anger at odo sort of gives me the impression that the show is more on her side here. but also, right before that scene, jadzia, the character known for holding the memories of many and honoring them carefully and loving beyond herself so easily, smiles and then walks away after a whole episode of her face twisted in grief and self-anger. it's an opaque ending, in a way.
#ds9#jadzia dax#star trek#tbh the pastoral ideal in a closed time loop seems a bit hellish to me.#locks people in to specific reproduction in a discomforting way#how else does 48 become 8000. how else do 48 people generate the exact same 8000 people all over again.
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Verad was the one who resented not being chosen as a host by the Symbiosis Commission so much that he took over Deep Space Nine and forced Jadzia to give the Dax symbiont to him before he was overpowered and the symbiont was returned to Jadzia.
Joran was the musician who was joined with Dax after Torias died suddenly. Joran went on to murder several people. The Trill government covered up the entire incident and blocked Joran from Dax’s memory, but the memories eventually resurfaced.
Yedrin was Jadzia’s descendant in the alternate timeline in Children of Time caused by Jadzia’s mistake in leading the Defiant to the planet where they were all pulled back in time. Yedrin tried to trick the crew of the Defiant into recreating the conditions of the accident in order to make sure his colony survived. Yedrin was erased from time with that entire timeline.
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