#yang is a good sister

[grumpkinpumpkinhead]

What RWDE and R/RWBYCritics act like happened:

What actually happened:

I'm so sick and tired of seeing these posts. Ruby was HAPPY about the boba. Ruby WANTED the boba. She was EXCITED about the boba. All these posts about her somehow needing to be TRAUMATIZED by the ACT OF DRINKING TEA not only shows that you didn't actually watch the episode, but if that's your takeaway of Ruby's breakdown and emotional journey in Volume 9, then you don't understand what actually happened to Ruby in Volume 9 if you think her trauma somehow stems from tea now. (Although it's apparently asking a lot from THIS fandom to not only watch something but also UNDERSTAND it...)

The mass takeaway from volume 9 seems to be "Ruby is traumatized by tea now and Yang's a bad sister", and I just don't get how you could do the mental gymnastics to come to a conclusion like that.

Shut up about the tea already. Quit making such a mountain out of a molehill when it's very clear the tea isn't what bothered Ruby.

Jeez.

[iamafanofcartoons]

“Yang is a good sister to Ruby and here is why”

https://twitter.com/map4thy/status/1637551465890717699

[bobmarleygetupstandup-blog]

hexonicthemediocre,

Doesn't mean they have to be a helicopter sister though. Sometimes I think people who obsess with this "sister" thing are just projecting their own grievances of life and/or have some weird sister-complex. It's like these people infantilize Ruby. She's 17 at this point and refused help. At this age, she needs to stop being coddled. Even Weiss and Taiyang (mostly in Ice Queendom pointed out).

Everytime Yang asked, Ruby deflected by changing the subject or brushing it off and staying silent. You can't force help upon someone. No one is at fault here. And even Ruby understood eventually that she needed to learn to ask for help. When you're distracted by numerous things in a strange world outside of Remnant, where the only thing you're worried about is getting the hell out of there and back to some semblance of normalcy, it's easy to get distracted. Yang doesn't even recognize these symptoms that Ruby is going through because Ruby has never displayed it before. As Yang had implied, Ruby's version of "upset" wasn't like that in the past.

Yang's new relationship, was something she never experienced before so yeah it's going to infiltrate most of her mind. She's in a happy place and the juxtaposition was that Ruby was in the opposite state of mind. I think I remember Lindsay pointing this out but it was like "How do you be happy when I'm miserable! You should be miserable like me..." or something to that degree. Which in hindsight sounds like some of the fandom LOL.

Yang gave her childhood up to be the emotional support for Ruby growing up the same way a mother does. But even mothers have to stop hovering at some point. It's unhealthy and it teaches the child to NOT be resiliant. Helicopter parenting teaches kids NOT to be strong enough to leave their comfort zone. And Yang does NOT owe Ruby a life of servitude. She did her part during their pre-adolescent years. It's time for independence and learning to let go.

Immediate family will ALWAYS be there for you (if they're still physically around) but it's coming to a point where Yang breaks away to eventually begin the path to starting her own family. It may be later down the line but she's not going to chain Ruby to her to get to that point. And she shouldn't have to. Again, Yang does NOT owe Ruby.

I'm waiting for Ruby, at some point to say, "Thank you" to Yang. It would be a great full circle moment. Because without Yang being her emotional backbone and nurturer growing up, She would have been a emotional basket-case in her early years because Taiyang wouldn't have been able to provide that. He provided the physical necessities (food, roof over their heads) and Yang provided the motherly love and support. And as a sister, she doesn't need to be at her constant beck and call. However, as per that Boba episode, both had their talk (because they continue to be the foil to Team STRQ whose main weakness include utter lack of communication). Both Yang and Ruby expressed their concerns and anxieties. So now both are aware and on the same page.

Another thing too is that both Ruby and Yang are different then their younger selves and just like regular family, I also find myself having to learn new things about my younger siblings even when they're already in their 40s. People change and I think the ones angry at Yang and/or the rest of the cast are afraid of change or the allusion to it.

Also, it's time Yang got her emotional support and backbone...and she's finally getting it through Blake. A million kudos to her.

I find it so weird that people are mad about Vi choosing herself for once and not Jinx.

Like I saw this in RWBY as well. People were MAD Yang got a girlfriend and wasn't taking care of the little sister she raised and who is an adult.

And we are seeing it now again. People are MAD at Vi for not taking care of her adult sister and getting a girlfriend.

Like... I don't understand it. I have so many questions for the people that are mad.

Do you just expect older sisters to sacrifice themselves for their family?

Are you the younger siblings?

Are you a man?

Do you have siblings at all?

Are you sexist?

Are you homophobic?

Like, I just don't get it. And yes, I understand in both cases Ruby was at a low moment, and so is Jinx. But let's not pretend Yang and Vi are not there for them. Ruby refused help and wouldn't ask for it. Jinx rejects it as well. What do we expect them to do?

[smile-files]

nickel and balloon stuff from spring on the breakfast!!! i'm keeping in mind that in the previous episode, both of them were under the impression that their friendship wasn't real...

in a way, ii3 balloon is a lot like late ii3 cabby. of course, balloon did something indisputably immoral (manipulate and exploit others), and cabby only did something thought to be immoral (keep and use files about her fellow contestants) -- but both did something wrong and had to subsequently undergo a disproportionate amount of abuse and malignment for it, ending up with them being apologetic and submissive to avoid any chance of being framed as bad again. the biggest difference is that cabby has internalized the guilt others have attributed to her, while balloon largely hasn't -- he understands the concept of rolling with the punches for the sake of keeping good connections, but he doesn't believe he deserves it.

nickel brushes off ii2 a LOT this episode. to rid himself of his guilt regarding that time, he necessarily has to delegitimize the hatred he felt towards balloon then, thus also ridding balloon of his guilt. he expresses this all vaguely, choosing to remember ii2 fondly and saying off-hand that its baggage should be laughed off -- implying that balloon has been forgiven. reasonably, balloon is happy that nickel seems to actually believe he's changed for the better, so initially this makes him happy.

of course, though, it becomes clear that nickel just wants to shove his own actions under the rug, and balloon reasonably gets pissed off. nickel treated balloon and suitcase like complete garbage in ii2, and balloon clearly hasn't forgotten that.

"it keeps things easy." it keeps things easy to roll with the punches, to endure nickel's abuse and accept his sudden friendship. note, also, that nickel is still placing the blame on balloon: he's saying that balloon didn't want to "make things better", as if nickel and balloon ever having a rift was entirely balloon's fault, and his problem to fix.

and as we can see, nickel still hasn't fully forgiven balloon for ii1. as i've discussed before, nickel seems to secretly feel incredible guilt about how he treated balloon in ii2 (which is why he goes to such lengths to repress the whole memory of it) -- but that guilt is about the way in which he expressed his disdain and distrust of balloon, not those opinions themselves, nor the motivations for them. this is all very interesting, then -- if he still believes balloon can't change from his old, bad self, why did nickel start being friends with him at all?

i think a large part of it is his projection onto balloon. nickel sees himself in balloon: someone who screwed up big-time and isn't able to become a better person after that (according to nickel). we tend to gravitate to people similar to us, after all. i wouldn't be surprised if nickel was also trying to overcompensate for his hostility towards balloon in ii2 by being very friendly with him in ii3, thereby helping him forget that he was ever hostile to him at all.

the most fascinating thing to me about balloon and nickel's relationship is how impersonal it is for balloon. he seems to value what nickel's affection represents rather than nickel himself -- and it represents that he's been forgiven. anyone who saw balloon and nickel's conflict in ii2, which was a product of balloon's nastiness in ii1 and nickel's subsequent inability to forgive that nastiness, would likely come to accept balloon and forgive him themselves if they then saw nickel being friendly with him -- because nickel is the epitome of the ii contestants' anger at him, and nickel of all people (seemingly) forgiving him would imply that he's really changed. the relationship is almost entirely a symbol in that regard. i don't think balloon has much residual guilt about is actions in ii1 -- he feels like he's adequately addressed them and changed -- but nickel having a positive relationship would be helpful in affirming that stance and proving to himself that he really has changed.

i wouldn't say it's cruel of balloon to keep this relationship going on under that pretense, but it is backhanded, and it helps explain why he was ever willing to accept nickel's friendliness unchallenged. he wanted his crimes to finally be laid to rest once and for all, and keeping nickel on good terms with him would let that happen. people would finally shut up about it. up until now, nickel wasn't explicitly denying his past cruelty towards balloon anyway, so balloon would be able to ignore that he neglected to ever bring it up; now, though, nickel is denying not only what he did to balloon but also to suitcase, which balloon is not able to tolerate. now that he's confronted nickel about that though, nickel snaps back with his condemnation of what balloon did in ii1, thereby uprooting the social stasis balloon had been able to maintain precisely because nickel refused to bring anything up before. in a way, then, balloon is purposefully shoving the past under the rug, just like nickel is.

we can't forget, though, that nickel has his own complex about fearing that he's incapable of change and incapable of forming positive, genuine relationships with people. balloon is essentially revealing that, in a way, he wasn't really friends with nickel -- at least not in the way nickel wished and fooled himself into thinking they were. if balloon truly were friends with nickel like that, then that would mean that balloon had forgiven him for his cruelty in ii2, and perhaps that he really has changed... but no. balloon hasn't forgiven him. why should he? nickel never apologized -- and given how he never apologized, it's impossible that he could've changed anyway: nickel doesn't want to apologize because that means addressing his guilt and allowing himself to feel it. he wants the forgiveness to be handed to him on a silver platter, without him having to do all of the painful work, and he's incredibly upset when it isn't. he wants to not be a bad person, but in order to do that, he has to feel like one, and he really doesn't want to. he hates who he was and doesn't want to associate with it at all.

(note how it's the suitcase robot who says "you can say sorry" when nickel says that nothing can be done about making things better...)

there's clearly an immeasurable amount of resentment these two have been harboring for each other throughout this season, which they'd only been hiding for the sake of fooling themselves into thinking they've changed (nickel) or thinking that others think they've changed (balloon). and now that they've let themselves explode with anger, partly related to the lies they'd been telling themselves falling apart, they yell at each other and balloon drops nickel down a hole!

ah, balloon and nickel's relationship... it's bizarre, it's toxic, it's convoluted, it's shady, and it's incredibly sad. i'm glad i'm revisiting ii3, especially this episode -- i used to be utterly baffled by nickel's writing, particularly in spring on the breakfast, but now it makes complete sense to me. also, i used to think balloon was entirely the victim in this relationship, while now i know that he has his own faults and own baggage in that regard. it's weird -- they hate each other, but at the same time they're dying to be liked by one another. god i love these freaks...

[lovingdabeessss]

Yangs coping mechanisms always left much to be desired even pre arm-getting-horrifically- chopped-off-without-any-anesthetic-or-doctors-or-anything-just-horrible-and-painful incident girl grew up with 4 caretakers that ALL failed/traumatized her in different ways and then also had to deal with MONSTERS THAT ARE ATTRACTED TO NEGATIVE EMOTIONS in a forest in the middle of nowhere that’s FULL OF THEM

Like I obviously think Ruby’s childhood is a little more interesting to go into because she had 4 and 1/2 failure of caretakers however the one that did the best was terrible not for lack of trying to be good but for the terrible crime of being a child and thinking about how that affects her is super cool and interesting also the canonical way she seems to feel about them is just super fun but yangs my favorite and sometimes yangs more straightforward obvious trauma is even more fun to think about

Like there’s no way having to bare at least all of the emotional responsibility for a toddler didn’t cause constant panic attacks for baby Yang she probably had so many anxiety disorders like I know people without nearly as much responsibility over their younger siblings pushed onto them who still have reoccurring nightmares about their younger siblings getting hurt on their watch and constantly having to desperately keep them alive me included

So yeah she definitely had many many breakdowns and just forced herself to push it back down again as soon as possible because 1 taking care of sibling and 2 MONSTERS WILL EAT HER AND EVERYONE SHE LOVES IF SHE KEEPS FEELING SAD STOP FEELING SAD AAAAAA

So yeah here’s Yang and Ruby throughout the ages

[greenteaandtattoos]

one day weiss is gonna forget to ask someone to put sunscreen on her upper back and suddenly there's gonna be a lot more red in her outfit

[thousandyearphantombunker]

"women need to be meaner! Men shouldn't dictate a girls boundaries"

You couldn't handle Connie Maheswaran setting healthy (and much-needed) boundaries with her best friend. You freaking called her toxic and abusive. While season 3 of Amphibia is a hot mess Sasha Waybright being upset with Marcy isn't the problem! It makes sense she'd be pissed that she found out her friend borderline kidnapped her! Even if she can be read as kind of hypocritical, I think she has every reason to be upset! She's like what 14 at the oldest? In a terrifying situation?

It's always "set healthy boundaries" until they set boundaries with your favorite baby and don't spend 100% of their time supporting them/don't forgive their friends for their actions that hurt others

I'm sorry that Steven is your woobie child and Marcy is your comfort character but Connie and Sasha have a right to their feelings and a right to focus on their needs! It's always 'don't feel guilty about focusing on your needs' except not really because apparently focusing on yourself is actually selfish and it's morally wrong to feel certain ways about people! Connie isn't toxic- she acted really mature about the whole situation and while Sasha definitely is toxic- I think she has the right to be mad her friend borderline kidnapped her and broke her trust.

I am a firm believer in setting healthy boundaries and never letting anyone decide your boundaries for you especially when it comes to being supportive. Even if the person you are helping is a good person going through a rough patch you should still have boundaries with them- you can be supportive if you want but you should be your main priority in the need and as callous as it sounds it's not mandatory to give support to everyone especially if your being worn thin

[anemoiawithatouchofobsession]

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• 님 • 은 • 먼 • 곳 • 에

~ You went far away. My love, far away

~ Korean female celebrities in b&w, 50s-70s

[agnesandhilda]

I unfortunately would not be surprised if the online discourse about wu zetian ironwidow was RANCID (female, disabled, both of those things are crucial to her character, and she has the audacity to not trust men and more specifically the woobiebait bad boy who she's been paired with) but she hasn't done one thing that I genuinely disagree with or think was wrong so far

[piratelil]

*Spoilers*

*AGAIN SPOILERS*

Ya’ll really need to watch Yang frame by frame after the whole Ruby thing because that poor girl is so shaken to her core that she’s barely processing what’s going on around her. 

I’m excited to see her next episode because I want to see exactly how Yang reacts to processing that she just lost her little sister to the unknown. 

[goopyratdaughter]

the way that Ruby only finally snapped when she was put under pressure by Jaune’s criticism WAS SO FUCKING REAL

the entire scene was triggered by Jaune losing the paper village after the fight and pegging that on Ruby

Ruby, as a consequence, just finally lost it from the pressure alone

none of it was out of nowhere

they both just hit their last straw and vented their stress and frustration onto others

the writing help ME

[mephojixx]

yinyang woah yinyang woah yinyang woah cuties cuties cuties tgirl yin canon woah convines you to like femyin woah

[notmonaca]

yang xiao long 🤝 julie matthews

[uncaught-coolfish]

ruby commits su *checks notes* ahem drinks the tea and minutes later wbyj is back to go smileys huggsies yippee! im at my breaking point

[sedlex]

Uh. Recurring theme is recurring.

[jinxessticktogether]

crying over weiss throwing her arms around yang in the camp