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feyres-divorce-lawyer · 1 month ago
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🎨: jessamybooks
i got tagged in this, presumably because the person wanted me to debunk it so here we go. (warning long post mostly because of the pictures, putting a break so as to not clog up y’all’s dashes)
the ic’s help for nesta was giving her an ultimatum of going to the house of wind or deportation to the human lands.
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mind you, the former is also an isolation with a man she has verbally and physically made clear she wants away from her
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“it’s not up for negotiation” again, the ruling power is forcing a war refugee to “choose” between being stuck in a house that would be gruesome to escape from, primarily with a man she wants to be away from and secondarily with another man who’s just as culpable in her imprisonment, and deportation to lands where they know she will be ostracized, subjected to prejudice, friendless, and practically housebound.
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furthermore, amren lied about the rules of the night court when nesta rightfully brought up the fact that they were legally not allowed to do this. for all stans like to claim this was just like judge-appointed rehab, within that same modern context, lying about the law to force someone into “rehab” (mind you, through an intervention that had not a single medical professional involved), IS A CRIME
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in contrast, nesta’s help for the women in the library was… pinning up a sign-up sheet.
yes, she intentionally practiced in the library, even after clotho asked her not to because it was distracting the priestesses who watched her
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however, that was part of her plan to bring cassian down so the priestess could safely see how he trained her given their past terrible experiences with men.
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also, there are seven whole chapters between when she puts the sheet up and when gwyn signs up. seven.
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and then an additional five chapters when roslin, ananke, and deirdre show up in chapter 29.
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ilana and lorelei join in chapter 38.
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also note, nesta was going to give up and take down the sheet after her demonstration with cassian because it was her last resort. she still hadn’t physically bothered any of the priestesses, or initiated any unwanted contact.
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additionally, clotho, herself, was happy when gwyn signed up.
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so let’s review
the ic: forced nesta out of her safe space and demolished it, gave her a hosbon’s choice of training or deportation, and lied to her about their laws to bypass the illegality of their ultimatum
nesta: pinned up a sign-up sheet (which is by definition is voluntary), never physically bothered any of the priestesses or pestered them into signing up, and found a way to assuage any fears about a man training them without directly putting them in his way.
there is also a difference in time. the ic gave nesta no time to make her “decision.” she was forced into beginning her training the same day she got the ultimatum. in contrast, the time between when nesta put up the sheet, and when all the known valkyries from the library left the library to train is 21 chapters.
overall, i genuinely don’t think that anyone making this argument actually believes it, because it’s such a gross intentional misunderstanding of how the neo-valkyries came together, and stripping gwyn, roslin, deirdre, ananke, ilana, and lorelei of their personal choice to leave the library.
anyways, byeee
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rainy-writers · 3 months ago
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When are y’all gonna get it through your heads that no one actually cared if the Velaryon boys were bastards or not? They could have come out with white hair, violet eyes, the whole shebang and the rumor still would have been spread because it was meant to undermine RHAENYRA and her claim, nothing else!!
It was a misogynistic attempt to paint her as reckless and irresponsible and another way for the greens to push for Aegon. It was fear mongering, meant to say “Hey! Choose Aegon because you guys don’t want a bastard on the throne, right?” And it didn’t fucking work, save for on the idiot audience that still eats this shit up and genuinely believes that the dance happened bc Harwin and Rhaenyra weren’t married, rather than realizing the whole theme is MISOGYNY!! ITS ABOUT USURPING A WOMAN NO MATTER WHAT SHE DOES, SOLEY BC SHES A WOMAN AND NOTHING ELSE!!
If she had no kids = Vote for Aegon cause she’s barren!!
If she had kids = Vote for Aegon cause they’re bastards!!
If she has kids that look exactly like her = Vote for Aegon bc her kids are clearly Daemon’s bastards am I right? Vote Aegon bc he’s clearly the more responsible of the two with his trueborn kids!!
It. Does. Not. Matter.
And it makes me so mad, especially when people say that the realm wouldn’t have accepted Jace like DUDE. Nobody is just casually going around saying these kids are bastards, save for the people that KNOW they can get away with it if they’re caught bc Viserys wouldn’t dare punish them. Aka:
Alicent, Otto, and her nightmare kids. That’s it. No, some random Lord in the Reach wasn’t preaching about Jace, Luke, and Joff being bastards. I sincerely hate to burst your bubble (NOT!) but you guys as an audience care more than the actual people that live in this world and it’s so funny.
Basic media literacy will tell you that NO, Westeros did not care. How do I know? Well it’s simple really. If they cared then majority of them simply wouldn’t pledge to support Rhaenyra, clearly knowing that Jace is her heir??
I mean, these are all of the houses that supported Rhaenyra AND Jace:
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I mean do yall honestly think Cregan Stark thought Jace was a bastard when he swore an oath in BLOOD with Jace, marched PERSONALLY to the south AFTER Jace was dead, and tried to literally kill the CHILDREN of the Lord’s who rose up against him and Rhaenyra?
Do you think Lady Jeyne gaf when she personally pledged to support him? Lord Manderly? Hm.
No, they didn’t lmao.
So please, kill this narrative that “There was going to be rebellion if Jace ascended the throne” and “The realm wouldn’t accept him bc all of them secretly knew he was a bastard despite having no proof because his father, his grandfather and THEIR KING never said otherwise.”
It would not have happened y’all. And one day you blood purist, Velaryon boys haters are going to get it through your head that YES !! They were legitimate because no one ever said otherwise. It was never proven. Rumor isn’t proof. Hair isn’t proof for fucks sake. You need actual words from Laenor himself saying that RHAENYRA cheated and those boys are Harwin’s. You need Corlys passing over Luke for Driftmark and outright saying it’s because he’s a bastard to even get a SHREAD of doubt from the great houses.
One day you guys are going to realize that those boys were loved and no matter how much you try and discredit them, they will always be legitimate. Whether you like it or not, Viserys was content with Jace being on the throne after him, THE REALM was content, and Corlys Velaryon was ready to die peacefully knowing Luke was going to be after him. Hell, he damn near handed that boy the keys so don’t you dare say Luke didn’t deserve to inherit anything.
And sorry for the long post but some of yall are really starting to piss me off. Never mind that this is fiction, your attitude towards these boys is disguising and saying that they don’t deserve a good life, that they dont deserve things that were literally GIVEN to them with no complaints, and even going as far as to call them dirty or saying they deserve to die all because their mommy and daddy weren’t married is fucking disgusting.
This “bastards don’t deserve anything,” attitude needs to stop being preached by real life people. Hell, some of the people saying this are literally in the wedding photos of their own parents wedding LMAO. It concerns me on how much disregard you guys have for adopted kids (which is basically what they are to Laenor), and I’d hate to see the shit you preach in real life. Acting like blood actually matters in order for someone to be considered family.
Because regardless of what you believe, had their mother not been usurped because she was a WOMAN, Jace would have ruled, Luke would’ve gotten Driftmark and, yes, the world of Westeros would’ve kept fucking spinning.
By law these boys were legitimate and people seem to forget they came out of Rhaenyra’s coochie so REGARDLESS, they are Targaryen. Like unless Viserys or Daemon was their father, they were always going to be half NOT Targaryen lol…Just like Alicent’s kids. It just so happens that they’re half Strong, but again, it doesn’t matter, because Jace gets his claim from RHAENYRA, not his father, so even if Harwin was married to Rhaenyra he still would’ve been the heir?? Even if it wasn’t Laenor who was his father, he’d still be heir because of his mother and being married to someone does not change that.
Some people even go as far as to argue that they’re not Targaryen so Jace shouldn’t be the heir which is stupidest thing I’ve ever heard and the most blatant case of misogyny ever. Like unless your father cloned himself then you STILL get half your genes from your mother dumbass. They are as much Targaryen as the Hightower kids with their DARK HARIED PARENT, it just so happens that their Targ side is from a woman, not a man. Which, like I said, if you don’t consider them Targaryen just bc they don’t get their claim from their father then we know what you are. 🙃
But anyways, to make a long post short, yes these boys are legitimate, they were recognized as such by:
The King himself (who they’d be inheriting from)
Rhaenyra
Laenor (their father, who they’d be inheriting from and wanted Luke to have Driftmark)
Corlys (their grandfather, who Luke would be inheriting from and wanted Luke to have Driftmark)
Rhaenys
The Realm
History
And if you still don’t believe me, here’s the official Targaryen family tree from Fire and Blood which all of Westeros sees :)
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You see how they’re listed as Velaryon? You see how they’re directly linked to Laenor and there’s no little astric saying how they’re bastards? Yeah me too.
PS - Read Fire and Blood as well. This whole argument about them being bastards is literally stemmed from no more than two paragraphs, IF that. And their legitimacy is never brought up again.
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thanathicca · 2 months ago
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Pathologic Fest Day 17: Notoriety (1)
Part 1 - #crystalclaraity
This belated entry for @fellowtragedian is also crossposted on AO3! and yes, this is set in my 22nd century Thanatica AU, ISMIE (imperare sibi maximum imperium est).
Warning: medical scams, internet drama, ableism, xenophobia, suicide baiting, anti-vaccine behavior
Everything in this story is fictional. Any resemblance to real people, places, or events are purely coincidental.
gemmedicine
posted July 13, 2165
you guys need to lay off of crystalclaraity’ accent guys. just because she’s russian doesn’t mean she’s a plot to undermine the us government via tocktick. get real
#crystalclaraity #crystalclaraity discourse #discourse #you USians are CRAZY #not everything revolves around y’all
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illogical-conclusion
Do you forget that CrystalClaraity is literally scamming people by selling them rocks that “”””heal the plague””””??? She forfeited the right to not be insulted by making people disregard safety protocols just to watch her “”””perform miracles”””” holy shit!!!
6969plaguefucker6969
@\illogical-conclusion those people in her videos are probably paid actors.
illogical-conclusion
@\6969plaguefucker6969 THAT DOESN’T MAKE IT BETTER????????
gemmedicine
@\illogical-conclusion i’m just asking y’all yankees to stop pointing out her accent. it’s literally embarrassing that you still mock foreigners for speaking english in their own accents in the year of the lord 2165
illogical-conclusion
@\gemmedicine I’m not American???? LMAO???????
gemmedicine
@\illogical-conclusion sorry
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bonked-silly-style 
posted July 19, 2165
gem/medicine literally believes in crystal healing. So unserious. How does he expect anyone with half a brain to take him seriously? xD
#discourse #crystalclaraity #crystalclaraity discourse #xDDD #gemmedicine #crystal healing doesn’t work you guys xP #drama #internet drama
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gemmedicine
@\bonked-silly-style some alternative medicine *can* work. my russian mutual @\prodxedwithgay ordered crystalclaraity’ stuff and it actually helped her.
destieldashcondankmemes
As a Russian, I disown @prodxedwithgay WTF why would you buy from crystalclaraity. Go to the WHO website or whatever instead of using TockTick for medical information -_____________-
never-traumadump
you say it like it is, man. my mom got into the alternative medicine pipeline cuz my little sister is autistic and she doesn’t want to vaccinate her 🙄 and now she’s totally entrenched in conspiracy and we’re not even allowed otc medication anymore. i have to wear crystal necklaces to school. i really need a new phone but noooo she had to use our savings to buy a mAgIc CrYsTaL i feel like i’m going insane.
never-traumadump
like. crystalclaraity says shit like “this plague isn’t real” and like it’s “just the negative energy pooling in the world that my crystal can neutralize”. i bet she’s fully vaccinated and doesn’t even listen to her own videos.
crazy-poor-asian
@\never-traumadump you think Crystalclaraity’s thing is a bit???
mychangelingfantasy
@\crazy-poor-asian Just like a stand-up comedian, sometimes a bit can result in a career 😌
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pandemic-news
posted August 25, 2165
CrystalClaraity, the health influencer that has accumulated 3.5 million followers on TockTick, EyeTube, Twatter, and InstantGram, has been drowning in controversy. CrystalClaraity has been selling healing crystals that allegedly protect you from the virus and reduce symptoms of the plague since the pandemic began in January 2165.
Research has found that some of the crystals sold in CrystalClaraity’s shops contain lead, asbestos, and several radioactive materials
(...)
The hashtag #KillerClaraity has been used as a campaigns for mass recalls and refunds are surfacing on several social media platforms.
Source
#crystalclaraity #pandemic #tw pandemic #cw pandemic #alternative medicine
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vigorovsky-trash
LEAD? ASBESTOS? RADIOACTIVE SHIT?! THIS DUDE IS LITERALLY A CARTOON VILLAIN!!!!
anti-vigorovsky
@\vigorovsky-trash how does it feel to know you support child abuse? kys <3
bone---throne
I hope they go to jail for this. This is unacceptable. Innocent people are getting hurt because internet social media platforms don’t have ways to prevent these scams from happening and getting bumped by the algorithm.
wowsonormal
Isn’t Clara literally a teenager?
bone---throne
No one knows how old they are.
killerheadache-fromouterspace
Speculation of CrystalClarity’s age by u/NotaConArtist
HOW OLD IS CLARA THE CRYSTAL PEDDLER? AN ANALYSIS BY MAKEUP ARTIST
Cosplay Wig Expert Weighs In: Clara is Wearing Shitty Brand Wigs
CrystalClarity candid photos (unedited) (footage not from socials)
I SAW CRYSTALCLARITY IN MY HOMETOWN?! (NOT CLICKBAIT)
brainrotting413
@\killerheadache-fromouterspace i SWEAR IF THIS IS A RICKROLL I’M GOING TO CRAM YOUR TOENAILS INTO YOUR ASS
fuckedupandmorallyambiguous
It’s not a Rickroll.
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bonked-silly-style
posted August 26, 2165
EAT THAT, @\gemmedicine!
#killerclaraity #crystalclaraity #discourse #gemmedicine #crystalclaraity discourse #crystal healing is stupid and anyone who thinks it works is an idiot
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rationalhumanbeing
…imagine listening to someone with a minion porn avatar
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@\rationalhumanbeing What are you doing reading minion porn? xD Devil’s sacrament moment xDDD
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gemmedicine
Posted August 26, 2165
some people really be using serious cases just to further drama. touch grass. if you know who i’m talking about leave them alone btw. “touch grass” applies to everyone on this hellsite
#personal #crystalclaraity discourse #crystalclaraity #discourse #oh well #i’m gonna go touch grass #maybe remake my blog #moots dm me for new user
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firelxdykatara · 4 years ago
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gods, ok, apparently i’m not done.
atla fandom? we need to have a chat.
(....ok that made me sound pretentious as fuck. and maybe i am, but this needs to be said, cause i’m getting....real, real tired of a Certain Corner of this fandom and as a result, this is gonna be a discourse-heavy post so feel free to scroll past if that’s not your bag. as always, my salt posts all carry the catch-all #salt for ts tag, which you’re free to blacklist/filter at your leisure. i’m Very Annoyed at the moment, which will probably come through in the following post, so just. yknow. be prepared for that. or ignore it, that’s perfectly valid too.)
under a cut bc i do care for my followers and their sanity i swear lmao
there’s a real serious issue in this fandom with not understanding what queer terminology actually means or implies, especially when applied to a fictional narrative.
i’m specifically talking about ‘coding’, here. (if i were in a more meme-y mood, i might have said ‘the atla fandom found out about the term “gay-coding” and haven’t shut up since’.)
to the people who say ‘zuko is gay-coded’, i have this to say: you keep using that word. i do not think it means what you think it means. because he isn’t. i’m sorry, but he’s not! and the fact that this is such a prevalent claim in this fandom is distressing, bc it says to me that none of y’all know what gay-coding is or when and how to apply it! please, i’m begging you, go and look up these terms and what they mean and when they should be used before actually trying to plug them into your critical analysis, because when you misuse them and then call other people delusional for disagreeing with you it casts a pall over the entire fandom and is, i think, the root of some of the worst toxicity this fandom has to offer.
and the thing is, there are cases where gay-coding would apply--for instance, a couple series that are famous for queerbaiting their audience by coding their main characters as being attracted to one another (sometimes even despite their openly stated sexualities) come to mind, but those shows bare no similarities at all to atla and how zuko was written and portrayed! (and it would be funny, if it weren’t so obnoxious and infuriatingly wide-spread throughout the fandom, because the only queer couple we actually seen on-screen in either show wasn’t even queer-coded in any respect, and they’re canonically bi! [yes, i’m shading korrasami, or more accurately i’m shading bryke for refusing to give ka the build-up and development they deserved].)
this absolutely isn’t to say that headcanoning zuko as gay is a bad thing or invalid in any respect. (although the tendency for zukka shippers to do this specifically to keep zuko away from katara and/or invalidate his canon relationship/attraction to girls is more than a little eyebrow raising. especially since sokka is usually allowed to be bi, bc fans have no problem letting sukka stay in the background bc it’s no real threat, while jetko shippers are happy to have both boys be bi. [possibly bc katara is less a threat to jetko bc jetkotara is every bit as valid as any single ship between the three, but zukka can’t exactly let katara join in, and if the potential exists for zuko to be attracted to her then canon giving them the far deeper emotional bond becomes a threat to zukka’s existence? idk for sure--you be the judge.]) i prefer to hc zuko as bi (and always have, long before the atla renaissance), bc i don’t think zuko being attracted to boys is outside the realm of possibility, and it isn’t a threat to my ship since zuko&katara had a deep and emotional bond in canon that is very easy to develop further into something that becomes explicitly romantic--but the headcanon itself isn’t really the problem (although what it’s often in service to can be).
it’s the strange insistence that this is the only way to read his character, bc he was coded that way and so anyone who doesn’t see it must be too straight to understand--and i really shouldn’t have to say why and how that is so incredibly fucking insulting. (the ‘hetero lenses’ comment wasn’t cute when it came from bryke six years ago, and the same sentiment being repackaged and delivered by zukka shippers ain’t cute now.)
calling zuko gay-coded not only demonstrates ignorance as to what the term actually means, and how to usefully apply it in critical analysis, but also validates the frankly bullshit insertion of institutionalized homophobia in the world of atla where it was neither needed, nor wanted, nor ever hinted at in canon. as a queer woman i’m still infuriated by one fucking comic panel shoving institutionalized and systemic homophobia into a world where it was entirely unnecessary (and doing this in the first installment of the franchise showcasing a queer relationship??? making korra and asami worried about ‘coming out’ when they could have just gone on to have cute adventures together and tell people ‘hey we’re dating’ and have everyone else be ‘that’s awesome =DDD’ [because it is, in fact, possible to just have a world without homophobia i promise!!!!!] double yikes, i’m still pissed at bryke about it), and i doubly hate that ‘zuko is gay coded’ has become so widespread that ‘ozai hates him bc he’s gay’ has become a staple in that part of the fandom.
not only does making zuko gay and implying (or outright stating) that ozai hated and abused him because of it completely undermine zuko’s character arc by making his abuse about his sexuality rather than ozai’s toxic pride and anger at seeing himself reflected in his ‘weak’ son, but it comes very close to outright stating that abuse and trauma are inherently gay experiences, and they aren’t!!! they really aren’t, i promise!!!
abuse and trauma narratives exist outside of ‘my dad hates me because i’m gay’. and, quite frankly, there are MORE THAN ENOUGH queer trauma narratives out in the world. we do not need to start trying to retroactively make them canon in a series where they didn’t exist! if you’re gay and see yourself in zuko and project your own experiences on him, that’s understandable and valid. that does not make zuko gay-coded. and honestly, the insistence that he is makes very little sense to me, because you’re essentially trying to give the show credit for work you put into interpreting the characters! why would you want to do that? why not own your own headcanons and take credit for them, rather than insisting they are canon and everyone else is wrong for not seeing them??? like, i’ve said before that i’ve always headcanoned zuko (and katara) as bi, and even support it with my interpretations of evidence from the show, but the difference between ‘i think zuko is bi’ and ‘zuko is definitely gay-coded’ is that i know that bi zuko is my interpretation of canon, and that it is work i’m putting into the show that wasn’t actually intended by the creators/writers, no matter how much sexual tension i read into the jetko swordfight.
and like, zuko’s character arc doesn’t actually parallel a queer one all that well to begin with. it’s easy enough to do the work and twist it sideways just enough to make the general points fit, but the fact is, zuko’s arc is not one of self-discovery. it’s not one of coming to understand something fundamental about himself that he can’t change, that he was hated for, and coming out to his father in a dramatic confrontation where he shows that he understands himself and doesn’t need his father’s acceptance to be fulfilled.
zuko’s arc is actually one of trauma and healing. and those can (and often are--like i said, there are more than enough queer trauma narratives in the world, atla really doesn’t need to be one of them) be part of queer narratives, for sure! but they aren’t uniquely queer. and zuko’s confrontation with ozai during the eclipse doesn’t read like a ‘coming out’ at all. (yes, i’ve seen that post. yes, i rolled my eyes and moved on, bc unlike some people, i’m capable of not clowning on correctly tagged posts i disagree with.) zuko is specifically confronting ozai over his abuse, because his arc wasn’t about discovering anything fundamental about himself (and therefore realizing that ozai was hating him for something he couldn’t change)--it was about realizing that he was not at fault for the way his father treated him. it was also about realizing that the fire nation was broken and corrupt at its core, and that his father was an aspect of that he needed to break away from so that he could help the world begin to heal.
he says it himself:
Zuko: No, I've learned everything! And I've had to learn it on my own! Growing up, we were taught that the Fire Nation was the greatest civilization in history. And somehow, the War was our way of sharing our greatness with the rest of the world. What an amazing lie that was. The people of the world are terrified by the Fire Nation. They don't see our greatness. They hate us! And we deserve it! We've created an era of fear in the world. And if we don't want the world to destroy itself, we need to replace it with an era of peace and kindness.
making this about zuko being gay and rejecting ozai’s homophobia, rather than zuko learning fundamental truths about the world and about his home and about how there was something deeply wrong with his nation that needed to be fixed in order for the world to heal (and, no, ‘homophobia’ is not the answer to ‘what is wrong with the fire nation’, i’m still fucking pissed at bryke about that), misses the entire point of his character arc. this is the culmination of zuko realizing that he should never have had to earn his father’s love, because that should have been unconditional from the start. this is zuko realizing that he was not at fault for his father’s abuse--that speaking out of turn in a war meeting in no way justified fighting a duel with a child.
is that first realization (that a parent’s love should be unconditional, and if it isn’t, then that is the parent’s fault and not the child’s) something that queer kids in homophobic households/families can relate to? of course it is. but it’s also something that every other abused kid, straight kids and even queer kids who were abused for other reasons before they even knew they were anything other than cishet, can relate to as well. in that respect, it is not a uniquely queer experience, nor is it a uniquely queer story, and zuko not being attracted to girls (which is what a lot of it seems to boil down to, at the end of the day--cutting down zuko’s potential ships so that only zukka and a few far more niche ships are left standing) is not necessary to his character arc. nor does it particularly make sense.
(and before anyone brings up his date with jin--a) he enjoyed it when she kissed him, and b) he was a traumatized, abused child going out on a first date. of course he was fucking awkward. have you ever met a teenage boy????)
anyway, uh, that was a lot of words, so have a tl;dr: zuko is not gay-coded. there is nothing uniquely gay (or even uniquely queer) about his character arc or characterization, and he was certainly not coded gay in an attempt to sneak a queer character past the censors. if anyone involved with atla was gonna try that, it would’ve been in lok, and as established, they didn’t even manage to queer-code the actual queer relationship before the last few minutes of the final episode. headcanoning zuko as gay is absolutely fine (though if it’s only done to keep him away from female characters he may otherwise be attracted to, that smells more like misogyny than anything else), but insisting that this reading is the only one that makes sense, and anyone who doesn’t agree must be straight (hello, queer woman here making this insanely long thinkpiece) is very much not.
ship what you like, but stop trying to invalidate other ships and other interpretations of characters just to make your ship seem more plausible. it’s really not a good look.
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What your opinion on the Agni Kai was better then aang’s fight with ozai
I want to first say that “better” is a completely subjective statement. Both the final Agni Kai and Aang’s battle with Ozai have huge importance thematically, but are also demonstrative of different aspects of A:tLA, so comparing them in an attempt to determine the “better” battle is really an injustice to the show imo. That said, the final Agni Kai is certainly the more popular of the two big battles, and honestly I can break down its popularity into three main points. People tend to favor the final Agni Kai because:
They see the final Agni Kai as the reason Z.utara should have been canon (no, this is not the same as seeing the battle as crucial to Z.utara’s development; I mean they full-on think that the final Agni Kai matters largely if not entirely because of the brief ‘Z.utara’ moment.)
They recognize the significance of the Agni Kai being framed as a tragedy (specifically regarding Azula).
Their lack of understanding regarding Aang’s arc (or, to be kinder, their personal disinterest in Aang) prevents them from fully appreciating his battle with Ozai.
There are a few other reasons the final Agni Kai tends to be favored (e.g. it’s a much faster-paced battle action-wise; Aang’s battle with Ozai is over twice as long and because of how the show was structured is broken up into several sections and thus feels even longer), but I think those are the main three. So let’s take them one at a time!
First, I have to start with the obvious:
People favor the final Agni Kai because they interpret it as their holy grail of why Z.utara should have been canon.
Firstly, I am not getting into the K@taang vs Z.utara ship wars. I don’t have the time or the energy lmao. But there is a huge difference between shipping Z.utara based on the content provided in the show (because y’all know I love me some Zut@raang) compared to somehow thinking that Zuko and Katara were both ready to be and should have gotten together at the end of the series. In short, Z.utara would not have worked in canon based on where the series stood by the finale, and that’s okay! That fact does not negate the appeal of Z.utara nor does it mean Z.utara shippers should not be allowed to interpret the final Agni Kai as involving Z.utara content (they absolutely can and should! we love to see that!). But the final Agni Kai was not some secret sign that Z.utara was meant to be canon, and people who interpret it as such are sorely missing the point of the battle.
Here are a few metas discussing the final Agni Kai in regards to Z.utara’s importance within canon A:tLA, if you’d like to read some analysis going more in-depth than I intend to. My thoughts regarding Z.utara and the final Agni Kai are pretty simple:
Zuko catching/attempting to redirect the lightning aimed at Katara was not because he was in love with her. For him to sacrifice himself because he was “in love with her” would entirely undermine his redemption arc, which is learning to earn forgiveness and accept unconditional love from his family (both Iroh and the Gaang), not because of romantic interest. (Again, this does not mean someone shouldn’t ship Z.utara; if that’s what you’re taking away from this post, then you might as well stop reading, because I assure you that’s not even close to the point here.)
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Katara is set up as Azula’s primary foil (e.g. by and large her relationship in canon with Zuko is aimed as a surrogate sibling); her saving Zuko parallels Azula’s attempts on his life (though her most important moment as Azula’s foil is arguably bringing Aang back to life after Azula kills him, but that’s a subject for another time lol), and Zuko catching the lightning for Katara demonstrates him saving the sister he can save versus Azula, the sister he cannot save (hence her breakdown at the end of the battle while Katara walks away largely unharmed; Zuko’s decision is also a direct parallel to him siding with Azula in “Crossroads of Destiny”, having first chosen the sister who harms him over Katara, the sister who ultimately heals him).
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The significance of Zuko catching/attempting to redirect the lightning aimed at Katara is not because it was Katara he was saving; the viewer sees Zuko’s decision and recognizes that he would have done so for anyone. Anyone in the Gaang, plus Mai and Iroh, and possibly even Ty Lee (hell, he’d probably have taken the bolt for Appa and Momo). Zuko’s redemption arc is sealed by his selflessness, his willingness to sacrifice himself for the sake of someone else. While the moment is especially powerful because of Katara’s position as a foil to Azula, it is not the Z.utara holy grail I’ve seen it portrayed to be.
To be honest, the interpretation of the Agni Kai as some big Z.utara moment is both superficial and a massive disservice to Azula and the completion of her arc, which is the focal point of most if not all of the battle, and also entirely undermines the power of Zuko’s redemption (as I discussed). So moving on to the next point!
People favor the final Agni Kai because they recognize its importance to Azula and how the key element of the battle’s emotional weight is its framing as a tragic, heartbreaking moment.
I rewatched both the final Agni Kai and Aang’s battle with Ozai before I wrote this, and I had to try so hard to not cry at the end when Azula breaks down, sobbing openly for the first time in the entire series. It is a powerful, devastating moment, and it is so heartbreaking because of how fitting it is for her. Does she deserve redemption? Absolutely. But in the context of the series and how A:tLA played out, rock bottom is where Azula needs to be, and the audience recognizing that fact is what makes the scene so painful to watch (and also why you can’t take your eyes off the screen). For me, the power of the Agni Kai never came from Zuko’s sacrifice (although I understand why that part resonates with some people more); instead, it was always about Azula’s downfall, her descent, the straw the broke the camel’s back - whatever you want to call it. I’ll try to keep the essence of my feelings towards Azula and the Agni Kai and why this battle is preferred short:
Azula is a much more established antagonist than Ozai. We know from the beginning the Fire Lord is the big bad, but his presence in the show is relegated largely to flashbacks and to the second half of the final season. Azula is introduced in Book Two (technically she appears twice, I believe, in Book One, but she has no lines so I’m not counting those moments lol) and becomes the key antagonist throughout the final two books. The viewers admire her intelligence and strategic capabilities, appreciate her wit and ability to turn a person’s words around on them, and even feel sympathy and pity for her when her difficult relationship with her mother is revealed (in “The Beach”) and when Ozai’s conditional love is demonstrated to apply to her, too (“Sozin’s Comet Part 1: The Phoenix King”). Thus, the final Agni Kai has multitudes more emotional potency in terms of the antagonist, as Azula is more pitiable and developed than Ozai, so it’s understandable that feeling a greater connection to Azula might result in someone preferring the final Agni Kai over Aang’s battle with Ozai. (That said, I will be discussing more about the significance of Ozai as a character later.)
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The tone of the Agni Kai is that of tragedy (verus the more action/intense battle of Aang vs Ozai). While the debate of drama vs action is largely related to personal preference, I think it’s worth noting that no other battle in A:tLA (that I can think of) has the slow, drawn-out, orchestral music that is present in the final Agni Kai. The viewers realize this battle may be about power on the surface, but in reality it is a painful, devastating moment about a family irreparably torn apart (at least in terms of the series run). For me, that has always been the captivating factor of the Agni Kai. The viewers mourn for Azula, who has lost herself. Yes, she did so partially in her quest for power, but more importantly in her search for love, as she did not have a support system in her life like her brother (Zuko always had Iroh), and the audience grieves for her. Her mother both feared her and was disgusted by her; her father loved no one (including her) and only valued her for what she could provide to him; she hurt her brother and her best friends to the point where they were forced to turn away from her; and her uncle, as far as what is shown, never extended a hand to her. Azula is a victim of abuse (though this does not excuse any of her actions; in fact, her role in A:tLA as a victim who was abandoned and lashes out before breaking down on the inside is just as important as Zuko’s role as a victim who was given support and was able to heal). Thus, to me, the power of the final Agni Kai is all from the tragic tone (hence why Azula’s heartbreaking end brings me close to tears every time).
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Bonus: The way Katara takes out Azula is incredibly clever and badass. (I don’t think I need to expand this one. We all love narrative foils!)
For some people, they prefer the final Agni Kai because of the emotional weight of the conclusion of Azula’s arc; that weight combined with the conclusion of Zuko’s redemption, in my opinion, are pretty valid reasons to deem the final Agni Kai their favorite battle of the series. That said, there is one other important factor to consider in the question of the final Agni Kai vs Aang’s battle with Ozai:
People prefer the final Agni Kai because they blatantly misunderstand and/or misinterpret Aang’s arc of reconciling his being both the Avatar and the last airbender, thus preventing them from fully understanding and appreciating the weight of his battle with Ozai.
This point is more complex than the two I discussed previously, so I’m going to break this one down further to help simplify it. Let’s start with the most obvious thing:
“The lion turtle and energybending were cop-outs!”
I cringe whenever I see this; imagine admitting to the entire fandom how blind you were to the extensive foreshadowing about the lion turtle and energybending. Downright embarrassing. There are so many metas out there explaining how the lion turtle and energybending were not cop-outs and how A:tLA did foreshadow their influence (some people need to admit they just didn’t watch the show tbh). I’ll try to provide a quick summary:
Chiblocking demonstrated how chi/energy and bending were intrinsically linked from Day. One. Moreover, it did so numerous times; trying to claim that blatant foreshadowing is not there is… well, kind of embarrassing.
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The lion turtle was foreshadowed in “The Library” (and moreover the lion turtle only appeared after Aang called out to the Spirit World; his meditation was an appropriate attempt to seek help from those wiser than him to resolve his dilemma, and thus his plea was answered).
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If you’re gonna argue the lion turtle/energybending were convenient cop-outs, you better also critique how Suki conveniently was at the Boiling Rock/the ferry, Pakku conveniently had been arranged to marry Katara’s grandmother, Toph conveniently inventing metalbending, every other time a spirit showed up conveniently, etc. etc. etc. Don’t cherry-pick, hypocrites.
The lion turtle/energybending were not necessarily predictable, no, but they also were not meant to be. You’re not supposed to guess every detail of every finale of every show. So yes, the lion turtle/energybending were foreshadowed, and this foreshadowing done so in a way where after they were revealed it was intended to be an “oh my god, how did I not see that connection before?!” moment. (At least, so it was for me.)
Dismissing the lion turtle and energybending as a cop-out is an age-old, boring misinterpretation of Aang’s battle with Ozai, and by and large I think most of the fandom is tired of hearing it. Thus, if people don’t understand the lion turtle/energybending and their roles in the A:tLA finale, then they’re less likely to appreciate Aang’s battle with Ozai and therefore would prefer the final Agni Kai. Next common argument:
“Aang was able to re-enter the Avatar state because of a rock? Really? Another cop-out!”
Again, if you’re gonna criticize the rock, at least criticize every other plot device used in A:tLA. I mean come on. Some people will really just cherry-pick instances solely with Aang. How very convenient for them, huh?
But the fact of the matter is that the pointy rock is actually pretty important! No, it didn’t necessarily have to be a rock that allowed Aang to enter the Avatar state again, but it was necessary that the Avatar state was unblocked for him by a physical trigger. The Avatar state was removed from Aang by Azula’s lightning striking him (after he’d done the spiritual work to control it, too!), which is a physical block, thus requiring something to physically unblock it. By the end of Book Two, Aang is able to enter the Avatar state of his own accord (he successfully unlocked his chakras, after all) and had Azula not struck him in the back and killed him, he presumably would have been able to do so throughout Book Three. Did that physical item have to be a rock? Again, not necessarily, lmao, but where he and Ozai were fighting, well, there certainly were a lot of rocks, so it’s not like it didn’t make sense. (There’s a meta here that touches a bit on the necessity of the Aang needing the Avatar state physically unblocked, too.)
“Ozai was a stereotypical, boring villain! He was barely given any screen time!”
This isn’t entirely untrue. Everything viewers are told about Ozai is from other characters in the narrative; mostly Zuko, but also Azula and I’d argue Iroh, too. Ozai certainly was the big bad of the series, and little is provided regarding his personality beyond being power-hungry, racist, xenophobic, and abusive. But… that’s kind of the point. Ozai is written to have zero redeemable qualities. There is supposed to be zero sympathy for him. Hell, there’s arguably even zero reason for him to live on (which actually makes Aang’s decision to spare his life all the more powerful, but that’s for later). There’s one line in particular that really defines Ozai’s character to me:
“You’re [Aang is] weak, just like the rest of your people [the Air Nomads]! They did not deserve to exist in this world… in my [Ozai’s] world!”
Ozai is the epitome of fascism, imperialism, and a superiority complex if there ever was one in a cartoon. His words remind the audience that maybe he didn’t initiate the Air Nomad Genocide, but he continues to seek the same goal - obliteration of anyone he deems inferior (which is, well, every nation except his own). Aang’s battle with Ozai is literally a fight against fascism, and that’s a hell of a powerful metaphor. So while I understand leaning towards the Agni Kai in terms of familiarity with the antagonist (aka Azula), I do think some people gloss over Ozai too quickly. Yes, everyone knows that Ozai is a genocidal dictator, but I don’t think the implication of that position - especially what it means to Aang - really sinks in for everyone.
And now for the big one:
“Aang should have killed Ozai!”
If you are reading this and for some godforsaken reason think Aang should have killed Ozai, I beg of you: read these metas and analyses about Aang and his arc explaining exactly why that’s the wrong take. This point has been argued a million times over and the fact of the matter is that Aang choosing to spare Ozai’s life and thus uphold his beliefs as an Air Nomad is the ultimate triumph (a direct parallel to the Air Nomads being forced to fight back against the firebenders during Sozin’s attack and were thus not able to uphold their beliefs - the ultimate sacrifice). Furthermore, Aang choosing to spare Ozai’s life but take his bending is arguably a fate worse than death for Ozai. Ozai now lacks all of his power/prestige, will be forced to watch the son he despises rebuild his country, and any lingering supporters he may have can’t argue “oh well the Avatar had no reason to kill him!” because Aang didn’t kill him. He chose mercy. He proved himself better and stronger than Ozai could ever hope to be.
Furthermore, Aang staying true to his beliefs as an airbender is central to his character. The core belief of the Air Nomads was that all life was sacred (such was why they were all vegetarians). If he had killed Ozai, if he had been forced to betray his spiritual beliefs, then he would have completed the genocide of the Air Nomads that Sozin started a hundred years ago. Ozai’s death at Aang’s hands = the death of the airbenders’ culture. Full stop. How could he be expected to bring balance to the four nations if only three remained? Maybe this is just me, but the message of Aang being an airbender (the last airbender) and finding another way (e.g. energybending) to defeat Ozai in order to uphold the beliefs of his people is a much more powerful message than him having to kill Ozai (especially because no one else understood how important Aang’s spirituality was to him [not even the Gaang!]; Aang did what was right, even when the world insisted he was wrong).
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(Sidenote: The previous Avatars did not tell Aang to kill Ozai. That’s right - not even Kyoshi. I believe she gave him this advice: “Only justice will bring peace.” Great news! Aang did exactly that. Why are some people still so pressed about it??)
Furthermore, if someone calls Aang’s beliefs and his decision not to kill Ozai childish (we’ve all seen those posts), I’m giving you permission to deck them, because so much of the roots of the Air Nomads’ spirituality is rooted in Buddhism, and like,, we know westerners struggle to comprehend any narrative that isn’t our own, but the dismissal of Aang’s beliefs without making the connection that they’re also dismissing the beliefs of many, many real people? Yeah, please sock those assholes in the jaw. Give them the finger. Glare at them. Whatever works for you. Those are the people with the most superficial opinions on A:tLA, and to be honest, it really shows. Please: make an effort to understand the eastern narratives at work within A:tLA. If you don’t, there are so many things you will miss out on, and you’ll also just look like a prick.
For me, Aang’s battle with Ozai is so powerful (and my favorite) because of the ending and its importance to Aang:
“I’m not gonna end it like this.”
Aang chooses mercy by taking Ozai’s bending instead of killing him.
Aang chooses to uphold the beliefs of his people and guarantee the Air Nomads live on in him.
Aang proves his soul is unbendable.
Aang enters and controls the Avatar of his own accord (not induced by trauma or a spirit).
Aang reconciles his being the Avatar with being the last airbender.
Aang is finally at peace with himself and the world around him.
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In short, if a person doesn’t understand Aang and his character, then the significance of his final battle with Ozai will largely be lost, and thus it makes sense that they would gravitate more to the Agni Kai (which is arguably a less nuanced battle, as Azula’s position as a victim of abuse and Zuko’s tale of redemption are not exclusive to either western or eastern narratives, while Aang’s arc is largely more eastern in nature and thus something less familiar to western audiences).
I have no doubt that my personal bias influences my admiration of the final battle with Ozai, as Aang is my favorite character and his narrative is easily the most powerful to me (he is the sole survivor of genocide who still chooses to seek kindness in life instead of revenge), but regardless I’d argue the sheer thematic weight of Aang’s battle with Ozai outweighs that of the Agni Kai any day (although, to be fair, they are presenting different subjects, so take my feelings there with a grain of salt).
The Agni Kai is a tragedy. It is devastating. It makes you cry. Aang’s battle with Ozai is a triumph. It is hope. It makes you take a deep breath and look to tomorrow with a brave smile. And that is why it is the battle that concludes the series.
TL;DR - Both are fantastic battles in their own merit, but Aang’s battle with Ozai is underappreciated because of the fandom’s incomplete grasp on Aang’s arc and character while the final Agni Kai is often appreciated/hyped up for the wrong (*cough* shipping *cough*) reasons.
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 upbringing  &  family  life  ,  life  before  the  academy  ,  etc  .
     julianna  rachel  peralta  was  born  to  a  beauty  -  charmed  family  of  three  ,   with  a  new  yorker  mother  &  italian  father  birthing  the  healthiest  &  happiest  girl  parents  can  dream  for  .    her  mother  ,  susanna  ‘ susie ’  peters  ,   was  coined  the  model  that  pioneered  90′s  fashion  ,  a  la  kate  moss  ,   &  met  julianna’s  father  ,   elio  peralta   (  think  the  francis  ford  coppola  of  this  verse  )  ,   whilst  she  was  briefly  on  set  for  jack  to  see  friend  fran  drescher  .    their  love  stemmed  from  there  ,   after  she  made  a  mocking  comment  &  he  overhead  &  mocked  her  in  return  for  it  ,   &  the  whirlwind  romance  that  captivated  their  world  for  the  next  few  years  led  to  miss  jules  being  born  .    neither  of  her  parents  desired  marriage  from  each  other  ,   rather  believing  that  their  love  knew  no  bounds  ,   even  those  of  matrimony  ,   but  never  did  it  dim  the  bond  held  between  the  small  family  of  three  .    once  jules  was  in  their  arms  ,   they  relocated  from  new  york  to  colorado  ,   into  the  quaint  town  of  vail  ,   surrounded  by  pristine  mountains  &  crystalline  air  ,   where  susie  &  elio  found  a  pocket  of  indisputable  peace  after  a  small  winter  trip  in  their  first  year  of  romance  .
        it  was  there  that  jules  grew  up  ,   &  there  that  the  love  of  her  parents  faltered  .    her  mother  missed  the  world  of  fashion  ,   the  rhythms  &  rhymes  of  the  space  she  knew  as  well  as  in  maintaining  the  fame  that  spotlighted  her  so  ,   while  elio’s  passions  for  turning  out  film  after  film  dwindled  .    &  when  the  offer  from  vogue  came  in  ,   waxing  poetic  about  a  fresh  position  as  a  fashion  editor  ,   both  she  &  elio  knew  that  their  paths  would  veer  .    their  love  was  no  less  ,   but  integral  factors  of  their  relationship  were  now  fractured  ,   &  they  each  desired  after  different  things  .    this  was  all  said  to  julianna  ,   in  soft  tones  &  with  assuring  words  .    yet  ,   never  was  it  promised  that  everything  would  be  the  same  as  it  was  ,   for  the  truth  was  in  something  unsaid  .    susie  moved  to  new  york  ,   while  elio  &  jules  stayed  in  that  mansion  in  the  mountains  ,   &  all  was  as  fair  &  well  as  it  could  be  ,   with  julianna  staying  with  her  mom  during  the  fall  season  &  discovering  every  little  piece  of  italy  in  the  summers  .    christmases  &  hanukkahs  were  always  shared  in  vail  ,   &  susie  tagged  along  european  dives  when  her  schedule  allowed  for  it  .    it  was  as  if  their  relationship  &  subsequent  uncoupling  were  trivial  details  no  one  could  bother  to  account  for  ,  until  ,   in  the  worst  spot  she’s  ever  seen  her  mother  ,   it  came  out  that  elio  peralta  found  a  new  woman  to  share  a  life  with  ,   &  that  their  new  life  together  would  be  housed  in  the  same  home  that  susie  &  elio  specially  chose  &  ,   in  emotional  terms  ,  truly  built  themselves  &  carved  their  family  in  its  foundations  .    it  was  a  betrayal  of  the  deepest  caliber  ,   &  from  there  the  small  peace  that  still  was  at  the  core  of  their  little  family  was  forever  severed  ,   &  it  became  obvious  to  jules  that  those  few  years  were  lucky  .
     she  was  thirteen  when  famed  actress  lily  taylor  (  aka  jennifer  connely  lmao  )  moved  into  her  family  home  ,   bringing  her  adopted  eleven - year - old  twins  with  her  .    in  a  sense  of  loyalty  to  her  mother  &  her  own  hurt  over  the  despair  that  her  father  caused  their  original  trio  ,   jules  was  heartily  &  positively  prepared  to  hate  the  new  additions  to  her  family  with  a  vindictive  fidelity  .    her  plan  was  promptly  overturned  ,   however  ,   when  she  spent  day  upon  day  with  her  new  fam  &  steadily  allowed  them  into  her  heart  .    this  ,   of  course  ,   was  paired  with  doubtless  guilt  ,   spurred  on  by  her  own ��mind  whenever  she  flew  to  nyc  to  see  her  mother  ,   but  soon  enough  this  was  caught  by  each  of  her  parents  ,   &  susie  was  insistent  in  her  assurance  that  whatever  frigidness  she  still  held  for  elio  &  his  new  beau   (  which  julianna  didn’t  bother  to  correct  with  wife  )   ,   it  in  no  way  extends  nor  should  be  mimicked  by  her  .    elio  ,   in  turn  ,   was  quick  to  promise  to  jules  that  his  love  for  her  mother  flamed  in  his  heart  to  this  day  ,   but  each  of  them  are  happier  living  their  lives  in  the  lifestyles  they’ve  chosen  ,   with  the  people  they’ve  chosen  .    
      there  really  wasn’t  anything  to  do  but  swallow  their  words  ,   &  live  by  the  sentiments  they  expressed  .   jules  was  both  a  mama’s  &  daddy’s  girl  in  one  ,   so  to  take  their  words  as  fact  was  an  ignorance  she  allowed  herself  ,   even  when  the  hurt  look  on  her  mother’s  faced  inevitably  shone  through  in  hidden  moments  .
     but  when  jules  turned  seventeen  ,   susie  fell  in  love  with  a  musician  /  designer  named  tommy  lever  she  met  while  interviewing  his  collection  for  vogue  ,  &  the  two  fell  deep  ,  far  enough  to  sway  susie  into  moving  to  brazil  during  the  spring  season  ,  away  from  her  beloved  manhattan  loft  ,  to  be  with  him  in  his  home  (  the  link  is  crucial  to  his  characterization  lmao  ,  as  lenny  kravitz  is  essentially  tommy  lever  )  .   when  she  can  ,  jules  visits  as  often  as  she’s  allowed  (  always  )  &  has  gained  a  room  herself  .
      after  that  ,   however  ,   the  cycle  between  her  various  homes  continued  ,   well  into  her  slipping  teendom  ,   &  when  the  prospect  of  college  crunched  down  on  her  ,   the choice  seemed  inevitable  .   nyu  gained  a  classics  &  theater  major  for  its  class  of  2019  (  she  skipped  the  third  grade  ,  a  fact  she  didn’t  stop  bragging  about  at  that  age  )  ,   but  in  her  senior  year  of  university  ,   the  walls  came  crashing  down  .
 what  sin  are  they  categorized  under  ?  why ?
jules  belongs  to  the  sin  of  #pride  through  &  through  .   after  all  ,   if  there  was  one  damning  trait  to  send  her  straight  into  the  pits  of  burning  infernos  ,  her  prideful  sense  of  self  would  be  it  .   that’s  not  to  say  she’s  arrogant  (  nor  am  i  saying  she  isn’t  )  ,  but  it’s  more  that  she  can’t  take  being  undermined  or  allow  the  supposed  undermining  to  go  unpunished  .   she  has  a  great  deal  of  #pride  in  her  own  self  worth  &  capabilities  ,  though  she’s  usually  loathe  to  make  it  known  in  plain  terms  ,  &  if  she  feels  attacked  in  that  manner  ,  she’ll  completely  close  up  .   this  often  ,  as  you’ll  surely  be  able  to  tell  ,   beckons  problematic  shit  .
 what  got  them  sent  to  the  academy  ?
      during  jules’  senior  year  at  nyu  ,  she  was  contacted  by  her  agent  (  shared  with  her  father  )  &  offered  an  audition  for  a  leading  role  in  a  major  hollywood  studio  film  .   throughout  the  years  ,  she  dabbled  in  theater  &  attracted  a  starring  role  or  two  along  the  way  ,  especially  in  school  productions  ,   but  the  plan  for  success  was  always  envisioned  after  college  .   when  she  got  the  call  ,  however  ,  she  handled  it  with  a  happy - go - lucky  fuck  it  sort  of  approach  ,  &  a  week  later  ,  when  she  received  the  good - bearing  call  ,  there  was  no  backing  out  ,  or  so  she  thought  .   tentatively  dropping  out  of  the  semester  in  which  she  would  graduate  ,  jules  modeled  the  next  few  months  of  her  life  around  the  film  ,  happily  doing  so  .   
      yet  ,  the  first  week  into  rehearsals  brought  down  a  cloud  so  dark  she  thought  she’d  choke  under  it  .   she  overheard  a  few  producers  on  their  lunch  break  ,  talking  about  this - & - that - esque  bullshit  ,  but  just  as  she  was  passing  ,  one  of  them  made  a  comment  about  the  peralta  girl  ,  &  how  hollywood  legacies  are  the  roaches  of  the  industry  .   how  directors  from  the  middle  ages  should  just  stick  to  ruining  things  behind  the  camera  ,  not  forcing  a  disaster  in  front  of  it  .   
      that  day  ,  jules  walked  out  of  set  &  never  took  a  step  back  in  .   effectively  ruining  her  future  career  in  the  process  ,  she  ghosted  all  contact  from  the  production  &  even  went  as  far  to  jet  off  to  brazil  to  regenerate  with  her  mom  as  an  escape  .   she  couldn’t  even  pick  up  where  she  left  off  during  the  semester  ,  &  simply  had  to  sit  back  &  witness  her  classmates  of  four  years  graduate  without  her  .   her  parents  were  furious  ,  but  the  only  thing  she  gave  in  return  was  a  steely  silence  ,  refusing  even  turn  a  glare  to  her  father  .   now  ,  she’s  been  shoved  into  the  hands  of  the  academy  ,  biding  the  days  until  she  could  return  to  nyu  in  the  fall  .  
what  do  you  think  they’ll  struggle  with  the  most  at  the  academy ?
tbh  ,  the  biggest  issue  for  jules  is  the  resentment  curling  at  her  core  .   at  her  father  ,  the  film  ,  the  academy  ,  herself  .   right  now  she’s  just  in  a  foul  mood  &  sick  at  being  forced  into  glitterati  rehab  ,  but  her  #pride  won’t  allow  her  to  fail  ,  even  if  she  wishes  to  do  it  just  to  spite  everyone  .   she  is  a  people  person  ,  however  ,  &  will almost  definitely  warm  up  ,  even  if  it’s  just  for  appearances  sake  .
extra  details  :  links  you’d  like  to  incorporate  ,  wanted  connections  ,  literally anything  else  you  want  to  include  ,  etc  .
wanted  connections  will  be  coming  soon  !   for  now  ,  please  enjoy  this  authentic  video  of  jules  chillin  in  her  fav  corner  of  the  world  ,  aka  italia  ,  taken  by  her  bff  eli  😔✌️
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sabrinaofwoodsbeyond · 6 years ago
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i keep forgetting to send this in but uh sabrina,,,,,,,,,,,, you once mentioned ravan/chaddick/beatrix/reena being a ship youve considered,,, could you mayhaps bless us with an elaboration. how would this work. thank you that is all.
Oh my gosh this ask was sent in a million years ago and I last thought about this ship even longer ago than that, but I absolutely will!
It’s essentially just a series of fun, cheesy romcom tropes that I don’t take too seriously but basically:
-Beatrix/Reena is a given, love these girlfriends, y’all already know the deal
-Beatrix/Chaddick was this weird kinda sorta canon thing up until Chaddick died (did Bea ever find out about that, btw? Also fuck Chaddick dying obviously, that didn’t happen lmao)
-Reena and Ravan were walking together in TLEA, and because I latch onto any scraps of Ravan characterization I can get I headcanon that they were pretty good friends at the School for New Evil and they keep in touch after the schools switch back.
-Ok so now for the parts where I make shit up to suit my dark agenda: back in year one, at the Circus of Talents, Ravan gets beaten by Chaddick and humiliated in front of the whole school, (which was frankly kinda bullshit since Ravan’s talent was way more impressive tbh). Ravan never really gets over it and swears to get back at Chaddick.
-His plans to do so kinda get overshadowed by all the shit that happens year two, and for a little bit Ravan is actually embarrassed that he ever considered Chaddick a rival/equal after seeing him and the rest of the Everboys act like such buffoons at the School for Boys. But the animosity is STILL THERE because seriously? Shooting an arrow? With this big stupid buff arms? THAT was his most impressive talent? So lame
-Year three, they’re all at the School for New Evil. Things are bad. Hort is freshly heartbroken (again) and devoting all of his time to acting like a jackass and pretending to be over Sophie, the coven is is being squirrelly and reclusive while trying to undermine Rafal, and Ravan doesn’t have all that many people to talk to anymore
-Despite the ranks being thrown into chaos, Ravan manages to hold onto his spot as a leader and ends up befriending Beatrix and, by extension, Reena, who have become a lot more competent and fun to be around than he remembers. It turns out hanging around Evers isn’t as terrible as he thought it would be, especially with all of them united against a common enemy.
-Though Beatrix is higher ranked, Reena is more level headed and thoughtful and Ravan actually ends up liking her more than he thought he’d like a sidekick
-Unfortunately for Ravan, Chaddick is ALSO in the leader class and good friends with Beatrix and Reena, and he starts seeing Ravan as Part of The Gang because they’ve all gotta watch each other’s back with the School Master and Aric skulking around, right?
-Only Ravan is still kinda pissed off at Chaddick and his stupid muscular archer’s arms, and is pretty damn rude to him. Reena tries to tell him that stuff like that just bounces off Chaddick and doesn’t really affect him, but that doesn’t deter him
-Lo and behold, Chaddick assumes that all Nevers are as snippy and irritable as Ravan and is completely oblivious to the fact that Ravan dislikes him, which somehow infuriates Ravan even further. Reena is still annoyed, Beatrix reassures her that Ravan will burn himself out eventually.
-To make matters worse, Chaddick, who’s still hurting from Tedros demoting him and promoting Aric in his place, Tedros’s disappearance with Agatha, and Tristan’s death, eventually starts considering Ravan a close friend and opens up to him about all of the shit that’s gone down. Ravan does NOT want to hear the dude he hates pour his heart out, but at the same time he can’t help but sympathize with the feeling of abandonment after dealing with Hort ignoring him in favor of fruitlessly pursuing Sophie so many times.
-Eventually (sometime after Chaddick first stands up to Aric for him) Ravan realizes that he’s always kind of admired Chaddick in a way (and maybe thought he was a little attractive?) and that yeah, maybe he can get along with someone like Chaddick
-Chaddick’s aggressively pansexual ass is way past this point and has already asked Beatrix if her feelings would be hurt if he made out with, say, completely random example here, Ravan. Beatrix tells him that she’s been dating Reena for like three weeks now and she didn’t realize that she and Chaddick were still a thing. Whoops.
-In the end the four of them end up being this really tight group of high ranking students who kinda lead the charge in Evers and Nevers buddying up against the new administration and starting the “bring Good back!” campaign. Also they might kiss sometimes c’est la vie babey
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spacebeyonce · 7 years ago
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good morning. I’m rested enough and I’ve had my coffee so now I can finally get into this.
so last night I saw tlj and it was, as previously stated, pretty underwhelming. but I’m gonna dive in and poke at shit that stuck out to me.
alright! quick and dirty let’s do it!
the good:
uhhhh fin looked beautiful as usual. and he was still so brave and ready to help the resistance out (albeit unwillingly but we’ll get into that) even though he just wanted to find rey and make sure she was okay.
finn and rose trashing the casino. it was very hard to warm up to rose, but her story about her and her sister’s childhood got to me. all that glitter and opulence and waste. the rich were like beautiful shiny parasites, and you had to look really hard past the shimmer to see all the life they were sucking out of everything. so them trashing the casino, just like rose wanted to, was a little satisfying.
I guess this is good if I thought it was hilarious but kylo killing snoke by using snoke’s shitty mind powers against him. seeing that kylo was going to use a saber and thinking it was going to be on rey when it was on him all along. that honestly took me the fuck out so I guess it’s good.
the finn vs phasma fight!!! it was beautiful and I was so glad to see finn take out one of the people who hurt him. let finn destroy all his abusers 2k17.
that finnrey reunion hug was pretty goddamn solid and wholesome and I smiled a lot when it happened. reunited and it feels fucking awesome.
and uhhhh that’s it. I had to work very hard to put at least more than two things that I liked.
so onto the bad:
lmao what wasn’t bad about this movie. but I’ll just do a few.
making rey focus on trying to redeem kylo was a fucking mess and kinda felt like character assassination. rey would’ve stayed focused on trying to kick that shitheel into a goddamn ravine, not redeeming him. I was so tired of hearing her say over and over that there was still some good in kylo, that he could still be turned. the first time she called him ben gave me an ulcer.
and since we’re on rey and kylo and their bullshit, what the fuck was that force connection shit going on. the first time it happened I felt a headache show up behind my eye and it didn’t leave. every time they connected and spoke through the force it got worse. it was honestly rather boring to endure and I definitely could’ve done without it.
finn getting sidelined was what I expected but still so fucking annoying. he barely had any part in this movie, which was jarring after going through tfa, where he played a pretty big part in everything in the movie. in here, he was just comedic relief, barely speaking anything but witty one liners with no character development to be found.
the fact that the little side mission that poe, rose, and finn had going on completely failed, and caused more harm than good. which uhhh super burned my ass but I’m gonna get into that a little more in a bit. but everything they did, trying to find a code breaker, breaking onto the FO starship, all of it failed, and so many people died because of it. it was frustrating because they were trying hard to help the resistance escape but in the end nothing really came of it.
that finnrose kiss was so dry. they barely had any good chemistry, and should just stick to being friends. they’d be better friends than lovers, and it was very hard to warm up to rose after how they introduced her to finn.
snoke as a whole was a rather underwhelming villain, which kinda sucked since they gassed him up so much in tfa. to have him be this weird lookin’ ass wrinkle in a chair that got cut in half with a quickness so we could make way for supreme leader kylo ren was uh. boring.
again, having to look at adam driver’s weirdly shaped torso was really very unfortunate. he’s a fucking weirdly shaped dude. I got nothing out of seeing his bare chest. my pussy has never been so dry. he’s a very unattractive man. please stop making me look at him. why couldn’t I see john boyega’s bare chest instead.
I could go on with the bad! but I won’t. instead let’s get into the ugly:
and GODDAMN was it ugly. major ugly points!
WOW how many times did the characters of color get hurt or degraded??? ESPECIALLY finn and poe, jesus christ.
introducing rose by having her taze finn so hard he slams into an opposite wall did not make me like her! people in my theater laughed while I flinched so hard my seat rocked a little. brutalizing the black man isn’t funny!! but every time finn got hurt people fucking laughed!!! when rose tazed him, when hux fucking slapped him, people laughed. good to know that black people in pain is hilarious to y’all! imma remember that y’all think humiliating and degrading black characters is so funny! thanks!
and speaking of finn, I’ve briefly spoken on this already, but rose saying he was a deserter and a traitor pissed me off. just ‘cause y’all think he’s a resistance hero doesn’t mean he’s signed on to be a part of the resistance. wanting to find rey and be safe doesn’t make finn a traitor.
for a moment, in tfa, finn’s interests aligned with the resistance’s, and so he helped out. he hasn’t agreed to be a part of the rebellion, a part of the war. and while finn and phasma’s fight was bitchin’, to have finn suddenly stand tall and declare he’s ‘rebel scum’, even though at the beginning of the movie he was ready to leave to try and find rey, was jarring. like they couldn’t have shown finn having thoughts about being part of the resistance or anything??? they couldn’t show finn making this choice on his own instead of being tazed or grabbed by the collar and dragged into it???
poe. jesus christ poe what did they do to you. making poe into this - this fuckin hot head who doesn’t listen to his higher ups in a shot for glory and heroism was horrific. that wasn’t who he was in tfa. poe’s not in the rebellion to get glory, he’s here to - to try and save people. to get the first order’s foot off of people’s necks so everyone can just breathe freely. to have him disrespect leia and holdo, undermining their authority at every turn was so disrespectful to watch. poe’s not some sexist firecracker but that’s what tlj made him into and it honestly hurt to look at.
watching him get stunned across the room into another wall by leia was also so ugly to look at, and made me flinch super hard once again while people in the theater laughed. so.
and SPEAKING OF CHARACTER ASSASSINATION, LET’S GET INTO THE BIGGEST ONE - LUKE FUCKING SKYWALKER. I’ve never been so bitter.
making luke out to be someone who’d murder one of his own students - his blood - at the first sign of darkness or conflict was. wow. and it was especially ugly because it took the burden of kylo’s shitty choices away from him, and placed it onto luke’s shoulders. it was luke’s fault that kylo turned to the dark, it wasn’t his choice, luke pushed him, and kylo was just a scared little boy.
which is fucked. because in the previous movie, tfa was all about choices. finn and kylo were such huge narrative foils because at the heart of them it was about choices. finn, who was raised in the heart of the dark, stolen from his family and forced to be a soldier for a cause he didn’t really believe in, made the choice to not kill for the FO, to not want anything to do with them. kylo, raised in light, trained to be a jedi and keep the skywalker legacy going, chose, as a man, not some boy, to kill his peers and join the dark side. he chose to force himself into that mold to be the next vader.
and to say that he really didn’t?? and that the reason he went dark is because of luke?? it pissed me off. it’s still pissing me off!!! it was horrible!!! it took all the choice, all the blame away from kylo, and put it all on luke. and that’s pretty ugly.
luke dying was also fucking stank and I don’t give a shit how full of peace luke was. it was stupid. it was so ridiculous. I can’t properly describe how outraged I was, and still am, at luke just.....disappearing. just going away. I wanted luke to be a part of the resistance more, to meet the rest of the new trilogy people, and now I won’t ever get that and it’s frustrating. it was a weak bitch move. there was a lot more luke could’ve done. so this was just uhhhh. shit.
I’m sure there’s more I’m missing! but that’s what stuck out to me the most. so yeah! tlj kinda sucked. it sucked pretty bad actually. underwhelming at worst, forgettable at best. a solid 3/10. and that’s being generous.
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Desperation, fraud, and perjury. The deception of the internet by a felon...
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This is a thread of your 'acclaimed' "Queen of Rap"; Reminisce Smith (Remy Ma) the BIGGEST FRAUD in history. This will be full or facts, receipts and clapbacks to anyone who thinks they can 1-Up Nicki Minaj because we saw what happened to Kimberly’s career.
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What we call this here, ladies is “Onikavoodoo” because that’s what happens when you go against the Queen. 
Who God bless, no man can curse.
Nickisus Proverbs 12:17
“When you went aginst Nicki, you depleted your wealth” / “Go against Nicki, it’s gon’ cost ya.”
Anyway, before you comment with negativity about whatever you feel is needed about why this thread has surfaced or how hard I'm going for Nicki Minaj, because I am and it doen’t matter, y'all don't know the half and probably don't care about the facts but quick to assume it's true. Whoever it is that tries to tear down what Minaj has built for herself over the years and make it possible for the other girls to come up or back (even if it’s to attack her) be HUMBLE. Don’t forget she put female rap back on the map. Just admit you don't like her but don't bandwagon to the next bitch that "tries" to end Minaj's reign. I will also be discrediting the accusations appointed to Nicki Minaj; rumorous tabloids and ill banter. Alas, let us begin. Get you some snacks and be prepared for this scolding hot tea, girlies. 
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As we all know and love, Nicki Minaj is the most successful and highest selling female rapper of all time. With this success, it brings out the most spiteful and jealousy of a person so of course, these girls try to tear her down but unlike Nicki, what she built is from her own success and hard work ethic. She didn't have to tear another female down in order to aspire or become recognized. The CEO; multi-platinum album(s) and record(s) selling vixen, singer, music writer, producer, entertainer, actress, award winning, Billboard ranking, Aretha Franklin record successor, brander, mogul, now signed model, fragrance and liquor owner, and empire BUSINESSWOMAN has done so much in her reigning time than all female rappers COMBINED AND THEN SOME (excluding Latifah because she was the first to step outside of Rap and still make money). So, what we won't sit here today and do is tear down and undermine this black woman's success and legacy of her brand. Another thing these girls can take from Minaj, gracefully, other than biting her flow and style, is.....ready? Now say it with me girls; ‘LONGEVITY’ which is why these bitches are only hot for one summer. 
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Some more facts about Miss Minaj not paying homage to others before she is false because she always had and applauded and spoke highly of those before her even in all her interviews coming up but unlike Minaj, her elders did not lend a hand and embrace her as she did for these upcoming female rappers. Nicki and Remy both fucked with each other and Nicki been saying "free Remy" since her sentence, so let's not act like my bitch doesn't like these girls before they flew out the window.
 Also, the dead rumors about Safaree ghostwrites for Nicki is trash. We both know he can't spit on his own so how y’all get that? Plus, we had 7Up do an interview defending and ending accusations about Nicki having a ghostwriter, she been writing since she first started and in their Rap group; The Hood$tars. Safaree (who was once apart of the group) never wrote and had his raps done for him by 7Up. Proof that Safaree wrote to 7Up when 7Up did his bid and asked for 16′s to start him up again because he felt some type of way being behind her “Hype Man” fuck outta here.
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After a 12 plus year relationship, Safreeload hit Nicki with a lawsuit in November of 2014 for unpaid royalties after their breakup. Nicki responds to social media as to Safaree for him going to the media about it. Clapback, girl. 👏
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What the FUCK you mean “unpaid loyalties”? BOY IF YOU DON’T... We know damn well that you never had to pay for a thing, everything was given to you. You should be humbled and accept that you lost the best you ever had because like most men aren’t faithful and how you let Nicki Minaj go? Mind boggling.
We won’t even discuss Weak Mill on here because all the L’s he been taking after thier breakup is just odee. Another dumbass who let the baddest walk away smh. BUT WE’RE GLAD, moocher. 
Moving along..
Nicki had Dej Loaf who is a female rapper headline for her Tour and even reached out to Young m.a.; Remixed a song of hers and gave her a shoutout during her performance and Remix. UNITY is what she spoke of but not everyone can see the bigger picture....and one, in particular, speaks of Unity but has done the complete opposite since the beginning.
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Let's take it back to early 2016 when Remy decided to take it upon herself to remix other artists songs (when no one asked) and multiple have been of Nicki's and took jabs but before we head there with the song and few sleezy bars from the girl, let's rewind to 2014 (Reminisce has been out of jail for almost three years now), early-September to be exact. Nicki Minaj actually reached out and called Remy in excitement for her homecoming and even asked her to jump on a song with her and Foxy that would have been on Nicki's third studio album “The Pinkprint”. Remy Ma declined; can't promise it’s verbatim but that she could not work with someone she despised and can't move past the fact that she (Remy) and Foxy beefed. There was no repair for that. After that, Remy felt some type of way and kept her distance. Back to the Remix of Nicki's "Truffle Butter" Remy raps
ᵖᵃᵖ ᴘᴀᴘ PAP ᴘᴀᴘ ᴘᴀᴘ pap ᵖᵃᵖ ᴾᴬᴾ ᴾᴬᴾ ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖ ᴾᴬᴾ ᴾᴬᴾ ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖᴘᴀᴘ ᴘᴀᴘ PAP ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖ ᴘᴀᴘ PAP Pap ᴾAp ᵖᵃᵖ ᴾᴬᴾ
“Truffle Butter (Remix)” 
 “People keep saying, ‘Rem, you need to drop a record / I’m like in a minute let me body bitch’s records.”
ᵖᵃᵖ ᴘᴀᴘ PAP ᴘᴀᴘ ᴘᴀᴘ pap ᵖᵃᵖ ᴾᴬᴾ ᴾᴬᴾ ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖ ᴾᴬᴾ ᴾᴬᴾ ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖᴘᴀᴘ ᴘᴀᴘ PAP ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖ ᴘᴀᴘ PAP Pap ᴾAp ᵖᵃᵖ ᴾᴬᴾ
This was the first and wouldn't be the last jab taken towards Minaj. Who else was she referring to? It couldn't be poor Iggy. That girl hasn't done anything to anyone and besides Nicki, was the only one making music and SELLING (for the people in the back saying she couldn't be talking about Nicki Minaj). 
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 Hmmmmm, really? Because she sounds mad corny in that interview right now. She double backed because she knows people caught on to her snubbing her so she’s tryna make an excuse for herself probably from Pap or Joe. She’s not ready for this storm that’s about to arrive.
As generous as the Queen is, took a blind eye to the shade. Heading to the 2016 BET Awards, Nicki takes home her SEVENTH AWARD IN A ROW and Remy congratulates her and Nicki responded with gratitude (because Onika is not this evil bitch with power that these people are out to make her be). 
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Following to the BET Hip-Hop Awards, yet again another subliminal was taken towards the businesswoman with a "Cypher Freestyle"
ᵖᵃᵖ ᴘᴀᴘ PAP ᴘᴀᴘ ᴘᴀᴘ pap ᵖᵃᵖ ᴾᴬᴾ ᴾᴬᴾ ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖ ᴾᴬᴾ ᴾᴬᴾ ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖᴘᴀᴘ ᴘᴀᴘ PAP ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖ ᴘᴀᴘ PAP Pap ᴾAp ᵖᵃᵖ ᴾᴬᴾ
“Cypher Freestyle”  
“Take away they stylist they don't know what style is.”
ᵖᵃᵖ ᴘᴀᴘ PAP ᴘᴀᴘ ᴘᴀᴘ pap ᵖᵃᵖ ᴾᴬᴾ ᴾᴬᴾ ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖ ᴾᴬᴾ ᴾᴬᴾ ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖᴘᴀᴘ ᴘᴀᴘ PAP ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖ ᴘᴀᴘ PAP Pap ᴾAp ᵖᵃᵖ ᴾᴬᴾ
“This can't be shots towards Nicki. You're reaching. You wanna make everything about Nicki. She ain't innocent! She started it!”   Said the angry people in the comments below this thread. You're absolutely right...about being wrong. 
Earlier that year (2014) Terrance which was Nicki's formal hairstylist was dropped from her crew and even hit Nicki with a $30 million lawsuit saying that Nicki was ungrateful; he was underpaid, and kept his wigs (when they were given to her) and started her own wig line with his designs. Low and behold Terrance is now doing wigs and hair for Remy and did her hair for the Hip-Hop Awards 2016 which that subliminal was made.
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To the fraudulent events that are about to unfold, hold on to your wigs. 
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“Say ‘cheese’ if Nicki Minaj tried to stop your bag.” 
Starter kit. 
All the cornballs and nondescripts in one photo. Smells like attention, musty and poor to me. 
Remember earlier when Remy Ma said she couldn't move past the beef with Foxy Brown, which is why the collaboration never happened? Well, get this! For their joint alBUM Fat Joe and Remy make peace for “Plato O Plomo” (which barley sold $20K first two months and still struggling) and release their first single "All The Way Up". 
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But before we get into that song let's reeeeeewind *Missy voice* to 2010 when Remy took shots towards Fat Joe with "Fat Liar" and Lil' Kim with "Dat Thing" 2009. “What? Remy and Kim beefed?” Oh yeah, we'll get to that in a minute. Fat Joe.... the same dude that said Remy ain't got talent and that Nicki Minaj is better than her and will continue to reign as the Queen of Hip-Hop/Rap is the same Fat Joe who's making a joint album with lmao.
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The same girl who said she'd kill him if she caught him in the streets. Damn man, talk about not being able to move 'passed the beef'. Back to the single "All The Way Up" Remy raps:
ᵖᵃᵖ ᴘᴀᴘ PAP ᴘᴀᴘ ᴘᴀᴘ pap ᵖᵃᵖ ᴾᴬᴾ ᴾᴬᴾ ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖ ᴾᴬᴾ ᴾᴬᴾ ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖᴘᴀᴘ ᴘᴀᴘ PAP ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖ ᴘᴀᴘ PAP Pap ᴾAp ᵖᵃᵖ ᴾᴬᴾ
“All The Way Up” 
“Wanted to be an icon / Ended up like Akon.” 
[She also referenced Nicki's catchphrase:]
“All this talk about my son and your son / I’m hot and your whole world revolve around me — bitch, I am the sun.”
ᵖᵃᵖ ᴘᴀᴘ PAP ᴘᴀᴘ ᴘᴀᴘ pap ᵖᵃᵖ ᴾᴬᴾ ᴾᴬᴾ ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖ ᴾᴬᴾ ᴾᴬᴾ ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖᴘᴀᴘ ᴘᴀᴘ PAP ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖ ᴘᴀᴘ PAP Pap ᴾAp ᵖᵃᵖ ᴾᴬᴾ
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*Crickets* Whoa, where did all of this jealousy and anger manifest from? Crazy to think that Nicki Minaj started all of this, sheesh, was I blind. This subliminal isn't even a subliminal anymore. We've heard and seen the shade and the world knows who she is talking about. That's when Nicki decides to fire back. What you expect her to do? Take it like a bitch? NAH. Thus "Don't Hurt Me" was released with DJ Mustard and Jeremih. Nicki spits playfully on the first verse and comes together flawlessly on the second verse
“Don't Hurt Me”
“All these bitches beggin' me to pass the baton / All these bitches tryna fit my crown and my wand / Bitches still my sons, get your sonogram on.” 
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A month later with their second single, "Cookin" Remy states that Nicki is hating and to fall back in line because everyone is jealous of her, said no one, ever.
ᵖᵃᵖ ᴘᴀᴘ PAP ᴘᴀᴘ ᴘᴀᴘ pap ᵖᵃᵖ ᴾᴬᴾ ᴾᴬᴾ ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖ ᴾᴬᴾ ᴾᴬᴾ ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖᴘᴀᴘ ᴘᴀᴘ PAP ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖ ᴘᴀᴘ PAP Pap ᴾAp ᵖᵃᵖ ᴾᴬᴾ
“Cookin”
“We are not the same / I'm one of a kind. It's my time, you hatin' on me, get in line son.”
ᵖᵃᵖ ᴘᴀᴘ PAP ᴘᴀᴘ ᴘᴀᴘ pap ᵖᵃᵖ ᴾᴬᴾ ᴾᴬᴾ ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖ ᴾᴬᴾ ᴾᴬᴾ ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖᴘᴀᴘ ᴘᴀᴘ PAP ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖ ᴘᴀᴘ PAP Pap ᴾAp ᵖᵃᵖ ᴾᴬᴾ
As she roughly rhymes. 
Alas, Onika drops that fire ass song "Black Barbies" which the beat was given to her by Rae Sremmurd who headlined for her Pinkprint Tour back in 2015. Nicki clapsback with the whole song and her verses. She's letting her know that she's not the one.
“Black Barbies”
“Who the fuck is gon' protect her if I really gotta check her?” 
[Along with:]
“She said she got a hit record, I said, ‘Ooh shit!’ / Picked up my phone ’cause I had to call ‘Bullshit!' / These bitches havin’ nightmares of my new shit / These bitches pussy and they don’t ever do shit.”
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Again with the entendre's and Minaj actually, speaks it out to the listeners "do shit" / "douche it". The hit record she refers to "All The Way Up" because multiple artists are on the track and she's acting like she made the song when clearly, she didn't. 😉
Two more subliminal verses of 2016 Remy responds with the fourth single off the joint album with Fat Liar "Money Showers" and she states:
ᵖᵃᵖ ᴘᴀᴘ PAP ᴘᴀᴘ ᴘᴀᴘ pap ᵖᵃᵖ ᴾᴬᴾ ᴾᴬᴾ ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖ ᴾᴬᴾ ᴾᴬᴾ ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖᴘᴀᴘ ᴘᴀᴘ PAP ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖ ᴘᴀᴘ PAP Pap ᴾAp ᵖᵃᵖ ᴾᴬᴾ
“Money Showers”
“Bitch claiming she the queen, what? Not hardly / Who the fuck gave you your crown, bitch? Steve Harvey? / It's my time, you hatin' on me, get in line son.”
ᵖᵃᵖ ᴘᴀᴘ PAP ᴘᴀᴘ ᴘᴀᴘ pap ᵖᵃᵖ ᴾᴬᴾ ᴾᴬᴾ ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖ ᴾᴬᴾ ᴾᴬᴾ ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖᴘᴀᴘ ᴘᴀᴘ PAP ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖ ᴘᴀᴘ PAP Pap ᴾAp ᵖᵃᵖ ᴾᴬᴾ
The platinum artist responds with her hardcore and metaphoric on take of Young m.a.'s "Ooouuu" with "The Pinkprint (Freestyle)" as you tune into the second verse with witty wordplay she drops;
“The Pinkprint (Freestyle)”
“Fuck outta here you dumb bitch / You know I'm pretty, and I'm witty, and I'm dumb rich / You throw shade, but I sun bitch/ And now you know what I'mma say, "you my son, bitch!”
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And also with the Remix of "Wait A Minute" Remy responds with;
ᵖᵃᵖ ᴘᴀᴘ PAP ᴘᴀᴘ ᴘᴀᴘ pap ᵖᵃᵖ ᴾᴬᴾ ᴾᴬᴾ ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖ ᴾᴬᴾ ᴾᴬᴾ ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖᴘᴀᴘ ᴘᴀᴘ PAP ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖ ᴘᴀᴘ PAP Pap ᴾAp ᵖᵃᵖ ᴾᴬᴾ
“Wait A Minute”
“Will I smoke this bitch? Yes / Probably fail my piss test / Get rid of those fake breasts / And put a vest on this bitch chest.”
ᵖᵃᵖ ᴘᴀᴘ PAP ᴘᴀᴘ ᴘᴀᴘ pap ᵖᵃᵖ ᴾᴬᴾ ᴾᴬᴾ ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖ ᴾᴬᴾ ᴾᴬᴾ ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖᴘᴀᴘ ᴘᴀᴘ PAP ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖ ᴘᴀᴘ PAP Pap ᴾAp ᵖᵃᵖ ᴾᴬᴾ
The jealousy and hatred just keeps growing and adding on to the big back she already has. The Hunchback of Notre Bronx thinks she on to something and untouchable but Nicki eats rappers. Nicki ends the year with a response that are full of entendre's and clever punchlines with the song "Like A Star" with Fetty Wap. I had to include a chunk because it's so clever and genius and I'll break it down for the 'real Hip-Hop' heads who can't keep up with her lyricism.
“Like A Star”
“Who better than Nicki? Man, I can't eff'in' tell / Every time I drop, bitches like, "FML" / Haha, you in the game? I own my own game / I only respect them hoes that own they own plane / Young Griselda, slicin' up / I ain't got no competition so my price is up / I'm the heavyweight champ, Mike Tyson'd up and I used to be a bitch, but I nicen'ed up.”
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SOOO clever. Did you guys catch it? Well, here we go just in case you didn't.
“Who better than Nicki.......Every time I drop, bitches like FML” 
She states no one is better than herself (Nicki) because let's be honest, which female rapper accomplished and made more for herself other than just doing rap? Every time she drops music, these bitches are SHOOK.
“You in the game? I own my own game......own plane”
You in the rap game? We ain't tell and you haven't been sellin'. Oh, Nicki Minaj has her own mobile game, yet again branding and making more for herself. She only respects those who have their own transportation thru the sky rather than those who use their label mates transport (Fat Joe) to get to point A & B.
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My favorite line yet! 
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“Young Griselda, slicin' up......Mike Tyson'd.......Nicen'ed up.”
WHEW! 🔥🔥🔥 What Minaj is rapping about here is that she is Griselda; which I might add is a double entendre, and if none of you kept up in History class, she was a notorious drug dealer and only female head honcho of her time. She was ruthless and didn't do her own slicing as in she had other people do it for her both in cocaine and heads. She was known to dismember her competition or people she didn't like in general. Nicki basically has no competition, just like Griselda Blanco, so her price is up, killin' the game and bitches. The consumers want more! And she can charge to her desire. Mike Tyson is legendary and is an undisputed heavyweight champ like Nicki; started young in their careers and accomplished so much and continue to reign. She nicen'ed up but if provoked the beast will awaken. 😉 & Nicki still playin’ in your face.
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Towards the end of February, the actress releases two tracks with Jason Derulo and Ty Dolla Sign "Swalla" and Gucci Mane with "Make Love" and takes direct shots. Miss Minaj warned not to be fucked with and on the track with Gucci she has lots to say.
“Swalla”
“I gave these bitches two years now ya times up / Bless her heart she throwin' shots but every line sucks.”
Clearly, we’ve been knowing Remy throwing shots all of 2016 and hasn't phased her. Also, you've been out for two years, where's your comeback?
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“Make Love”
“Bitch, I'm the Greatest, no Kendrick and no Sia / I'm the iPhone, you the Nokia / Everybody know you jealous, bitch, it's so clear.”
Sia “I’m The Greatest” featuring Kendrick Lamar
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DOUBLE ENTENDRE
So many great punchlines and double entendres and jabs, this song is great. This is just a small gist of the song itself. Probably one of Nicki's top diss records to this date.
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And as we know it, Rent Man drops her own diss track "Shether" and the hype around it was all too fake. Nobody cared for Remy but the only reason it got notoriety was that people hate Nicki and the beef was about Nicki. That's the only way these washed up artist get notoriety. Remy didn't clear this record with Nas since it was his beat and soon got pulled off from getting airplay, being performed and music stores for purchase, and whatever did sell went to Nas' record label as compensation. So at the end of the day, who won?
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Onikavoodoo strikes again.
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The adaptation of the record has been snatched from practically all commercial distribution, including radio-play, and live performance.
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The hype was all too real for Remy and they really gassed her into thinking that she was doing something and dropped her second diss right after from not getting a quick response from Nicki Minaj, "Another One". I won't be including any breakdowns because the hype behind the tabloid rumors and fake accusations shouldn't get notoriety but with the internet and uneducated people about the whole situation will believe anything. It's sad to say. After Minaj not responding for a week or so due to running her businesses and attending A-List fashion shows in Paris, it's not like she can place her life on hold for one miserable bitch, like who would? Nicki bounces back with three release tracks and two of them aimed towards Renty "No Frauds" with Drake and Lil Wayne and "Changed It" with Lil Wayne and before we get into topic about this and break down the details.... "No Frauds" is a HIT! Whether you'd like to believe it or not and Nicki was damn smart about having her label mates on the track to boost ratings and get mad airplay (since Remy can’t) and recognition (not that Nicki couldn't do it all on her own like people make it seem) but Nicki is fucking smart! She will make sure you feel every punchline and diss you on hit records where you're bound to hear them wherever you are. A lot of people say that Nicki needed help from Drake and Wayne to diss Remy but they don't mention anything about her so I'm confused? These new kids probably don't know much about Rap and Rap beef because no one said anything when Dr. Dre released "The Chronic" or when Ice Cube made "No Vaseline" or when all these great beef moments had another artist on them! Like Eminem, Snoop Dogg, Ice, Dre, Nas, JAY, Eazy-E, etc. need I go on? Most of these rappers diss contained another artist on the track or even their crew to hype it. Like y'all sound so stupid when it comes to Nicki Minaj. Y'all have these double standards that are unrealistic and only apply to her but when she meets the unrealistic standards it’s always something else and tries to discredit her. So why is that? Is it because y'all secretly hold her to a higher standard? Speak up! It does NOT make you a bitch when you listen to great music by a female artist. Grow up. And to those who are mad at the fact, Nicki didn't respond on YOUR TIME... it doesn't work that way. The Queen responds on her own time and you know damn fucking well (to the people in the back) that Nas took NINE FUCKING MONTHS to respond to JAY. NINE!!! So what the fuck is all this noise? Is this a standard y'all hold her to that I mentioned earlier? Moving on...
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“No Frauds”
“You can't be Pablo is your work ain't sellin' / What the fuck is this bitch inhalin'? / I would've helped you out that pit you fell in / I am da Generous Queen, ask Miss Ellen / Tried to drop "Another One" you was itchin' to scrap / You exposed your ghostwriter now you wish it was scrapped.”
So many great punchlines, double entendres, flow, and wordplay. So let's get it because y'all only hear a radio song but that's one of the points. Get airplay, hurt you, and make money.
“You can't be Pablo......inhalin'”
This bar is great because Pablo is not Kanye West and most people get it wrong when they hear it. Another history class mention; Pablo Escobar (The Cocaine King) is a drug lord and infamous for his reign. Also is the one who came up with the name/term Plato Plomo (mind you is the joint alBUM I mentioned earlier lol). You can't be selling because their joint album didn't even hit 20K two months after its release. So you can't be who you claim to be. And inhaling because Pablo was a cocaine distributor so yeah, wordplay!
“I would of helped you out that pit......Ellen!”
Ah, I love double entendres. "Fell in" / "Felon". Geddit now? Nicki would have helped you felon and bring your career back if you befriended her. The only reason she went to jail was because she shot her best friend over two racks equivalent to $2K. 😂 "Da" / "The" / "Da "Generous" / "Degenrous" as in Ellen's last name.
“Tried to drop "Another One" you was itchin' to scrap.....”
Like Remy really tried to pull a Drake. She thought she could put out two songs like Drake did to Meek and obliterated him but it backfired, big time. Because the two songs Remy put out are completely different from one another and you know that she couldn't have written “Shether”, obviously with the help of Papoose. She didn't even know her own lyrics the day off dropping her diss record lmao. That's how you know she ain't write it. This is all too funny, especially when Nic comes with the receipts. She raps about FACTS and not LIES. Let it soak in.
Another thing that was mentioned in “No Frauds” is that Nicki has before and after pictures of ya surgery (Remy) so let’s stop the plastic and body shaming especially when you had body work done too but you just got botched. A lot of celebs get done work and look fucking fantastic and half of y’all beat your dicks to them so stop acting like it’s an insult because it’s not. Lookin’ like NAH lol.
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"Changed It"
"No nigga you can't bone it ain't no Lisa here. She gon' dread dissin' Nicki like Lisa hair. I buy lil nigga ain't no lesser here. The bitch gambled her career now it's gon' be severe."
A moment of silence for Nicki's coldest verse to date! This song is truly about all the things from punchlines, wordplay, entendre's, flow, barz and lyricism all in one go.
The double meaning to the song is bone it / Bonet as in Lisa Bonet who got tons of backlash for having dreads and the way she wore her hair as in dread/regret dissing Nicki like they did with Lisa's hair. Wow. This bar flew over a lot of people heads. Nicki is smart!
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Just hit records back to back being dropped by the mogul. Nicki really playing with the poor girl. This is why we don't put out everything into one song because what else do you have to rap about or fire back with? Dumb bitches never learn. Nicki and David Guetta drop a fire record "Light My Body Up" featuring Lil Wayne. Such a great record and a few jabs then show off her more progressed vocals which can be another jab at these testosterone females who can't do that either. Eat ya heart out.
Another one. 😜
From the DNCE hit “Kissing Strangers” has a beachy vibe essence and with a playful gummy verse from the very versatile Minajesty herself, who doesn't disappoint with a few jabs like Mayweather she takes it back to her song “Don’t Hurt Me” which is a reminder to the listener and the one she’s referring to.
“Kissing Strangers”
“I gotta lotta sons, I can show you all the sonograms /Me? I’m Jem, and these bitches is the holograms / Me? I win and these bitches just lose / They ships sink, but my ship is just cruise.”
This is a real witty and playful verse but don’t let her fool you. Nicki can pack a punch; as I break it down to you, take mental notes.
“I gotta lotta sons, I can show you all the sonograms”
This is to point out Nicki has a lot of sons as in her opponents that she wound up mothering and she has proof that you’re one of them.
“Me? I’m Jem and these bitches is the holograms”
 Jem and the Holograms is a TV series back in the 80’s that focused on a music on an alter ego and would have adventures. This is a jab at her competition saying Nicki is the main event while the rest are just in the background.
“Me? I win and these bitches......my ship just cruise.”
The “ship” is a metaphor for her competition’s career. Their success in the music industry is comparable to a ship sinking to the depths of the ocean. Meanwhile, Nicki’s is fine. Nicki wins.
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"Light My Body Up"
"I just started my sentence like a capital letter / Got barz for years, I hope you send me a letter / Know she'll never be Queen so now she got a vendetta / I ain't talkin' about David when I say I'mma get her."
Let me add again how great this song is put together and the vocals are so hypnotizing, it really shows the versatility the rapper possess.  I'm gonna decipher the whole verse in one go:
A triple entendre, which there are two in this whole song, lyricism girlies. Sentences have to start with capital letters, a jail sentence is a period of prison time an inmate serves, and capital punishment is the legal authorization of the death penalty. Referring to the felon and not being able to reach out to the outside world, letters are the only form of communication lol. Knowing that she's not the Queen, she has a vendetta which is like a feud or looking to seek vengeance on someone. She made Guetta which is David's last name an entendre with the way she says "get her" as "get ha" which is then "Guetta". Wordplay girlies. Get into it!
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Guest star on Katy Perry's fifth studio album, "Witness", Nicki Minaj spits cold barz and sings a bit on "Swish Swish" which is a record that is aimed towards frauds from both artists. The perfect shady record that will surely get a tickle from you while listening to Minaj's verse because it's true what she says on a very upbeat vogue essence instrumental.
"Swish Swish”
"Silly rap beefs just get me more checks / My life is a movie, I'm never off set / Me and my amigos, no not Offset........
Don't be tryna double back, I already despise you / All that fake love you showin' couldn't even disguise you.........
Ran? When? Nicki gettin' tan"
Incorporated more of these barz from different segments because a lot needs to be discussed and deciphered.
"Silly rap beefs.......no not Offset"
Nicki says rap beefs make her more money, which can't be said for you. She and her day ones friends / amigos / Migos which is a triple entendre and no one seems to appreciate her lyricism. Her friends are real and not around for her fame, not off set (behind cameras). Her life is glamours, all around, all the time and she's never off set (Offset) which is a shoutout and entendre to the rapper of the Rap group Migos).
"Don't be tryna double back....ran when?"
Nicki sings about Remy Ma trying to take back what she said on The View about taking shots and writing that record about the mogul. She wishes she could take it back. So why you tryna take back what you said and did? Because you really scared about what's to unfold. Oh, where was Nicki when the diss record drop and why she takes so long to respond (less than a week) [asked angry commenters] Nicki was at the beach enjoying her tan with family and friends without a care nor worry about what one miserable bitch said. Let me enjoy my vacay with my day ones, rejuvenate and eat a career, later.
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Definitely not the last jab, Remy puts out another Remix, which nobody asked for, on Future’s “Mask Off”:
ᵖᵃᵖ ᴘᴀᴘ PAP ᴘᴀᴘ ᴘᴀᴘ pap ᵖᵃᵖ ᴾᴬᴾ ᴾᴬᴾ ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖ ᴾᴬᴾ ᴾᴬᴾ ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖᴘᴀᴘ ᴘᴀᴘ PAP ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖ ᴘᴀᴘ PAP Pap ᴾAp ᵖᵃᵖ ᴾᴬᴾ
“Mask Off (Remix)”
“Murder Next / Who I’mma murder next? / Maybe her? Nah, she ain’t worth it, yet / I burned you / Your new name is Bernadette”
ᵖᵃᵖ ᴘᴀᴘ PAP ᴘᴀᴘ ᴘᴀᴘ pap ᵖᵃᵖ ᴾᴬᴾ ᴾᴬᴾ ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖ ᴾᴬᴾ ᴾᴬᴾ ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖᴘᴀᴘ ᴘᴀᴘ PAP ᵖᵃᵖ ᵖᵃᵖ ᴘᴀᴘ PAP Pap ᴾAp ᵖᵃᵖ ᴾᴬᴾ
The whole playful thing isn’t for her. It’s quite comical at this point how far she thinks she’s gotten with this whole “beefing” lol. It’s another NAH.
After the silence of the beef guess who got recognized and appeared on a talk show but was only asked about Nicki Minaj. So you tell me who's winning. 😂 Remy and Fat Joe both appeared on Wendy Williams and tried to be petty and talk ill about Nicki trying to keep her off red carpets, lmfao. Came dressed in black for the "occasion" and doesn't speak ill of the dead. Girl, bye, lmfao. You ain't did shit but get gassed by the GP who ain't even bought your flopBUM nor listened to it so bai. Remember when she said that the beef is over with when she landed a feature on The Real? Yeah, she said she was done with it lol.
But Nicki isn't done, she'll let you know when she's done and it will likely end with you scavenging what's left of your career in order to try and stay relevant. Nicki then dropped a great verse which I might add was ranked the best verse off of all the features 2 Chainz had on his album "Pretty Girls Like Trap Music", which is a great album, her "Realize" verse was ranked by Complex the best off the ENTIRE album full of male rappers. More tea for those who say Nicki can't spit but when you hear Nicki Minaj spit, Nicki Minaj wrote it. Remember when Kanye wanted to take Nicki's verse off "Monster" featuring JAY Z and Rick Ross because he was scared she would body him on his best album to date, which proved to be true. "Monster" was ranked best Rap Verse in a decade. Now check that.  
"Realize"
"I’ve been winning eight years consistently, at least respect it / Papoose wrote a ‘Ether’ record, but I broke Aretha record / See, this is chess, not checkers / You can not check the checkers / Did Nas clear that ‘Ether’ record? Nah, but I broke Aretha record."
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Again, wordplay. Nicki clarifies herself winning eight years since her come up which is true. Titles, records, and numbers don't lie. Most people were focusing on the negative of a ghostwritten record while Minaj broke another black woman's record. Which is why she states it twice because it hasn't been done with the reign of Aretha until now with Minaj. Plus, you can’t check someone who does the checking.
Leading up to Summer Jam (which is full of fake ass people) had a segment where Remy performed and made it all about the platinum artist. She had Lil' Kim and Cardi B on stage while she was performing her diss and visuals of Nicki Minaj. Can we just say this bitch is obsessed? She went on even after the event pleading about Unity and that Nicki isn’t about that and it's not about who’s better but that’s exactly what they were up on stage saying and doing so.... Damn. 
Atlantic Hip-Hop Records is famous for trying to get these girls to go toe-to-toe with Nicki Minaj. Rappers Leshurr and CupcakKe were offered a deal to start beef with Nicki Minaj and would be given $250,000. Both declined and respect Nicki’s platform and know tearing down another female isn’t the way to start up. Why is this relevant? Because Kim was with them, Remy is now signed with them and now is Cardi B. Gotta stay WOKE about this guys. They don’t care about their artist, just the buzz. So I hope Cardi is smarter than that because Atlantic is looking for their next test dummy. Smh.
Remember when I said I was gonna back to the feud Kim and Remy once had? Yeah, they both said that they were going to murder each other and both dished out a few disses. Fast forward into the future where two bitches hate the same person link up, it's pathetic. The friendship is forced and isn't authentic. The feud they had was ugly and the only reason they're linking up is that they have one thing in common, Nicki Minaj. The same Reminisce that said she couldn't work with Foxy Brown because they couldn't repair the damage with the beef they had is the same girl who made a joint album with the dude she feuded with and performed and brought old rival Kim on stage about the same girl they despise. This is how you know how fraudulent the bitch is. These are FACTS and not tabloid rumors. Stop believing what these artist claim to spit to be real when receipts and concrete evidence is provided but y'all don't wanna hear it, see it, or read it when it comes to Nicki Minaj.
June, 17th for Birthday Bash in Atlanta both artists Nicki and Remy performed but let's get something cleared... Remy performed when Nicki hasn't arrived yet. As Nicki was on stage she performed her hit record "No Frauds" and got the crowd hyped. The delivery was crucial because Remy was backstage trying to run out of the building and tried playing it off on social media saying she (Nicki) performed after she left but SEVERAL celebrities who attended said, in fact, Remy was still there but trying to scurry during the song but was in fact there. So why you flexing for the ‘Gram?
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With Nicki’s last and grateful jab (”Grateful” DJ Khaled’s latest album that went #1) see what I did there? 😉 With the release of his number one album, “I Can’t Even Lie” with Future got the world talking and definitely got the been-a-fans in a tizzy. Wordlpay, barz, flowssssss... Nicki’s a beast man. Let’s break it down!
“I Can’t Even Lie”
“Queen back in the U.S., low iron but you pressed / Who lied and said ‘you next?’ / Crying emojis in my group text / Stay in your bum ass duplex / It’s Minaj no group sex / Queen never shuffle, you deal / Just turned down a four million shoe deal.”
Wow, I can't even wrap my head around this. This is too much. Triple entendre's and goals to be that rich to turn something like 4 mili down. Yikes!
Look, before y’all say anything this is Rap beef so anything goes. If you can call out family members by name and use false accusations, body shame, this is allowed! There are no limitations. So fuck off elitist who don’t know shit about anything!
“Queen back in the U.S. low iron but you pressed.”
As we all know, Nicki is officially back in the U.S. after vacationing and attending fashion shows and hitting up the studios as it seems. This is a triple entendre; low iron as in my bitch is hot and you’re upset at the fact you aren’t / low iron doesn’t do much on a low setting, like you, you don’t do ANYTHING so who lied and said you the next bitch? / low iron actually affects fertility. 😈
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June, 26th the BET Awards... Nicki lost her award to her rival and when the speech was made, it was a moment to acknowledge your accomplishment yet made the moment about Nicki Minaj yet again. In fact, you can say the award was just given to Remy because BET never truly supported Nicki and when she said she would no longer be performing that was their way of getting back at her and adding more fuel to the feud but Nicki Minaj was unbothered and the internet had a lot to say defending Nicki's title and reign. The award was presented just to stir the pot further. We all know it's about sales and votes  (Cardi B sold more with her two mixtapes than what Remy did since she's been out, intact, the entry for Remy was too late, "All The Way Up" was released too late for her to even compete but being shady, BET let it slide) which we know who had more but it backfired. BET burned a bridge with a mega-star who will no longer attend and ratings took an all-time low this year. Unbothered Queen, received the Key to the City of Queens NY which is way more of an accomplishment than a "BET award, it doesn't count" which I remember the general public calling it when Nicki won seven years in a row, so let's keep the same hype y'all gave Nicki for winning, to the fraudulent felon for getting the awarded handed to her. This is the first time that a female artist received a Key to the City and a huge accomplishment. Always reppin’ where she’s from so this is a great acknowledgment of her doing so and continuous success. Queens, NY truly noticed her accolades and accomplishments in music, that's way more to brag about than a female award. Am I right? Even with all that has happened, the Raptress still finds herself to be the first of something as over the weekend she opened up with a few hit melodies on NBA’s first ever Award Show and Co-host Drake and a few weeks prior to that she became the first female to open up the Billboard Music Awards with a 9 minute hit melody. Wow, remember when she was the first and only solo female rap artist to open the Grammy’s back in 2012? W I N N I N G.😘
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