#world mythologies
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scriblesandbits · 3 months ago
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red-moon-at-night · 9 months ago
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okay the whole vase is great but something about Helen sitting on Aphrodite's lap as she wraps one arm around her shoulder and brushes her leg with her hand, staring into her eyes like that... as she is persuading Helen to go with Paris (while Peitho aka persuasion stands behind them) is so incredibly iconic.
and gay. toxic yuri, if you will.
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to-be-a-dreamer · 10 months ago
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I can’t stand that TikTok trend that’s like “just saw Hadestown and my boyfriend is walking the entire way back to the hotel without looking back at me to prove Orpheus was a chump” because not only do they not get the whole point of the Orpheus and Eurydice myth they also Were Not Paying Attention to the musical they just saw.
Hate people who see WSS as “just a Romeo and Juliet retelling”. Hate people who see Hadestown as “Just an Orpheus and Eurydice retelling”.
Hate people who watch a musical that takes a classic story everyone knows and uses it to explore/critique our modern society and only see it as a funky retelling.
Not Getting The Point of WSS is one thing because it’s more subtle and it can be really easy to just see it as a modern R&J, especially if you don’t really know R&J.
How the fuck do you watch Hadestown and see it as just an O&E retelling? It is one of the most heavy-handed political musicals out there how are so many people missing the point?
Orpheus has to fail. Not because that’s how the Greek myth ends but because that’s the whole point of the message of Hadestown.
Social reform is hard. Changing the world is one of the most challenging things you can try to do. So often we see people try to make a difference in society, to change some kind of injustice in the world. And so often we see those people fail. It can feel so impossible to actually do some good in this fucked up world because we see these people who are smarter and stronger and more qualified than us fail over and over again.
Why do we even keep trying?
Because we have to.
Because one day, someone will try and they’ll succeed.
One day Orpheus won’t turn around.
One day the people of Hadestown will get to see someone escape and they’ll know they can escape too. Only then does the world get to change.
So we have to try. We have to keep singing the sad song, no matter how many times Orpheus turns around, because one day he won’t.
In the Greek myth, Orpheus fails because he loves Eurydice.
In Hadestown, Orpheus fails because we fail.
We try and we fail to make a difference. We try and we fail to change the world for the better. We try to see the world for what it could be and it keeps letting us down.
But we don’t give up. We don’t stop singing.
Hadestown is genuinely one of the best musicals ever. Full stop. This musical is one of the reasons i wish I was smarter because I would love to be able to do an entire thesis on this show and all the themes and messages in it. Some of them are subtle. Some of them aren’t.
It is not just an Orpheus and Eurydice retelling. I am begging people to hear the real message.
Never stop trying to change the world.
One day we’ll make it out of Hadestown.
We just have to keep singing the song.
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artthatgivesmefeelings · 2 months ago
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Roman Mosaic Floor, Palacio de la Condesa de Lebrija, ca.2nd-3rd century CE, Seville, Spain
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keferon · 4 months ago
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Alright I finally made the ref sheet for them. Although I rarely follow their designs myself ahahfjvm
Also. This thing isn’t very precise and detailed. If you decide to draw them - feel free to slap more ornaments on any parts of them👍
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n0ahs-ark · 11 months ago
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how the reunion in elysium looked like
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mask131 · 1 year ago
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Another reminder that Greek mythology is always somehow symbolic, metaphorical, allegorical, since we are dealing with anthropomorphic personifications and other embodiments of cosmic powers.
For example: Demeter has sex with both Zeus and Poseidon. Something-something about the relationship of the Earth with the Sky and the Sea (or the celestial and chthonian powers). ESPECIALLY since these relationships are said to happen at the beginning of the world, in the primordial times during which the world settled itself for what it is now.
Herakles' wedding with Hebe, the personification of youth, checks in with when he becomes an immortal god (aka, an eternally young entity). What better way to symbolize a hero escaping the clutches of death than by him becoming the husband of the spirit of eternal youth?
Why is Hestia never leaving Olympus? Something-something about her being the literal personification of the hearth, which is at the center of the house/community and does not move.
Why is Ares getting his ass kicked by Athena? Because Athena is civilization, and Ares savagery, and in the Ancient Greek mindset intelligence, wisdom and craft will always be above brutality, bloodlust and random cruelty.
Do I need to spell it out that the myth of Persephone-Hades-Demeter is about the cycle of the seasons, and how the earth renews itself and brings back life after a time of death?
And I wonder why Ares' companions during his mass-slaughters are called Phobos, Deimos and Eris - Fear, Panic and Discord... Why would the goddess that breaks harmony and sows feuds and chaos be depicted as the close sister of the god of the ravages of war and of the brutality of conflicts, what a strange mystery!
And I can go on, and on, and on. Remember, the Greek gods aren't just super-heroes or wizards (that's more in line with more "humanized" mythologies, like the Irish or Nordic ones). They are embodiments of concepts and ideas, personifications of natural forces and cosmic powers, they are living allegories and fleshed metaphors. Zeus wields the lightning because he IS the lightning and thunder. Dionysos is both the bringer of joy and madness because he IS alcohol. Hades is both the name of the god of the dead, and of the realm of the dead. Hestia's name is literaly "hearth" in Greek, Hebe "youth", Nyx "night", Gaia "earth", Eros "desire". You can write "Eris met Helios at Okeanos' palace" or you can write "Strife encountered the Sun at the palace of Ocean" and that is the EXACT SAME THING!
[Mind you to limit the gods to being JUST allegories is also a mistake not to make. Greek deities are much more than just X concept or X idea... But one part of the myths will always be, down the line, some weather metaphor or some natural cycle motif]
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avpol · 9 months ago
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"There was a land The Lioness had conquered.
'Please, cease your marching,' Begged a wretch, 'I cannot bear to see my forests burned, my home razed, my people bled.'
The Lioness heard him, and considered. Her first and second fingers she pressed to her thumb. Her nails scraped, she had fashioned a beak from her claws. She plucked the man's eyes like worms from the earth.
'There,' The Lioness spoke, 'You will not see it.'"
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front-facing-pokemon · 3 months ago
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thoodleoo · 5 months ago
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i cannot find a single ancient source that mentions this myth so i'm going to assume it's entirely made up. also all i can think of when i read it is this
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mythalism · 2 months ago
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having thoughts about the veil and people's bad faith interpretations about the desire to see it brought down as some sort of misled leftist bloodthirst for violent revolution instead of fulfillment of the fundamental role of trickster gods in mythology and storytelling and how there seems to be, in both fans and the developers, a misunderstanding or perhaps just a disagreement of how solas was supposed to function within the narrative as a force of nature vs. as a person. my adderall just kicked in
#i think trick understood solas as a narrative device first and a character second#which was probably informed by gaider's inception of him as trickster god that would eventually need to show up in game for the plot#and only becoming solas the character in inquisition#mythological narrative device first character second#which is also like. the inherent tragedy of his character because the world sees him the exact same way#and mythal sees him the same way#and most importantly he sees himself the same way#and even more importantly the inquisitor did NOT see him that way. and that was like the whole point#but i think something got lost in the writing when the inquisitors perspective of him as Some Guy was introduced#because on a meta level people could not understand him as a force of change and only saw him as a person#which might have been humanizing and beneficial in-world#but in terms of the meta narrative people began to misunderstand his fundamental reason for existing as a character#which was to be a trickster god and act as trickster gods do#which is to bring about catastrophic change#and while it was good for the characters in the world to have his personhood supercede his godhood#his personhood also began to supercede his godhood to the writers#and this disconnect ended up causing them to betray his narrative purpose#and thus the narrative fell apart#you can screenshot this and post it in a reblog LOL#i always do this and then its too late for me to copy and paste it all
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minlicious · 2 months ago
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i imagine odysseus as really short, like about 165cm/5‘4 and most of the other achaean leaders as quite tall, so in my head, every time odysseus talks to e.g. achilles he just jumps on diomedes‘ shoulder or on a table to be taller than the other person
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artthatgivesmefeelings · 2 months ago
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Ares e Afrodite (Mars and Venus), ca. 62-79 CE Pompeii, House of Meleager (VI 9, 2.13), 1st century CE Museo Archeologico Nazionale di Napoli (inv. 9256)
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tltw · 2 months ago
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just remembered i should post this here. specifically pokemas rei and volo. to me.
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nemfrog · 2 months ago
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Greek sphinx. Les monstres dans l'art. 1905.
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From a book uploaded by Marlete Kurten
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beyond-the-frozen-pines · 1 year ago
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a crossover absolutely nobody asked for!
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