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This is my soft Jacinter headcanon. A few years after Winter and Jacin get married, the topic of kids naturally arises. Wolflet and Kaider already have kids so people are starting to give the others pointed looks of "so when are you having kids." Cress and Thorne joke that their cats are their kids while Winter and Jacin are pretty on the fence. Winter still isn't completely mentally stable and because her mother died in childbirth, Jacin worries that Winter may have a similar weakness. They both like kids (he only began to after several babysitting sessions with Cinder and Kai's kids) but they agree that they aren't in the right place to become parents at this point.
Jacin works as a doctor who travels from sector to sector on Luna helping the small clinics there. One day he gets an emergency call for a patient. It's a young 7-year-old girl brought in by a social worker. She was taken from an abusive home and lived with her grandmother who had recently died, leaving her without a guardian. She has some health issues and doesn't eat very well so Jacin takes her on as a patient for several months while she's in the foster system. He becomes frustrated that such a young child has already suffered so much. It takes her a long time to warm up to him, and eventually she starts revealing small details about herself.
One day her social worker picks her up from school and takes her straight to the clinic. She's sobbing inconsolably and won't tell anyone why. Jacin can't get anything out of her, so he takes her to the break room where Winter has stopped by for lunch. They make her a hot chocolate and--because she's a reluctant eater--he goes to buy the biscuits that she likes. In this time, she and Winter talk and of course Winter falls in love with the girl, whose situation reminds her so much of her dear cousin Selene's childhood. The girl opens up to Winter and reveals that she is being bullied at school and feels unlovable, having been shifted from one foster home to another.
After this, Jacin starts to make some progress with her. The girl requests that Winter be at all her appointments. Even with some improvement, it's clear that this girl needs a permanent, safe home environment. So when her foster family are no longer able to accommodate her, Winter and Jacin apply to become her foster parents without hesitation. Winter's worries about her own mental health gradually recedes, as several months prove that she is component enough to care for a child.
At age 9, after a long legal process and some setbacks, she is officially adopted as a Hayle-Clay. She gets to meet her new cousins--Kai and Cinder's kids. Funnily enough, she has Asian heritage so she actually looks biologically related to them. And when she is 12, Winter and Jacin have a biological child and their daughter is thrilled to become a sister.
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definitive canon tlc ship ranking
my qualifications: im a goofy goober. im a silly guy. i know the secrets of the universe. im a pretty princess >_< :3
Jacinter - childhood best friends, starcrossed lovers, royal x loyal guard like dAKJLS:DJFH:L im sorry and you expect me NOT to love them?? ok I kinda get that compared to the other couples they spend quite little time together in their book but like. come on. I didnt reread tlc for a couple years but I thought about these two CONSTANTLY. I love them so much I cant even multiship like winlet is very appealing to me but lowkey I feel bad 😭 like theyve wanted each other for so long I cant bring myself to ship either of them with anyone else. But also I kinda wish jacin was a butch lesbian
Kaider - They're so adorable and silly lol. I feel like they were a very good couple to kick off the series with cause I was rooting for them so quickly. They're the funniest canon ship cause theyre both so sassy and done with everything. I wish we couldve gotten more scenes where they talked shit together
Wolflet - To be completely honest I like this ship a lot less than the previous two but thats not to say I dont like them. Like yes I could never take the alpha talk seriously but they were still very cute. Idk why but I like this ship a LOT better when I imagine Wolf as a woman and they were just two lesbians in love <3 If they were they'd probably be above kaider but in canon yea they're number 3 for me.
Cresswell - The age difference isn't really a factor for me, yes its weird but lowkey I forgot thorne was 20 and cress was 16 while I was reading cress. I like the headcanon that thorne had a fake id to sneak into bars and is actually 18 but forgot and just told everyone he was 20. Even so... they're odd for me. I don't know I guess I just dont like the naive inexperienced girl x experienced guy trope? I liked them a lot more in winter than I did in cress. I think its because the pining was more mutual then. I don't hate them, and I did enjoy some of their moments but out of all the canon ships theyre the weakest for me. I like them better when theyre interacting with other people, like wolf or jacin for cress and cinder or kai for thorne.
#the lunar chronicles#tlc#jacinter#kaider#wolflet#cresswell#yap sesh#my therapist said this would be good for me
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i have this headcanon for wolflet that whenever ppl ask about their relationship, wolf just gives the unfiltered truth to the point it’s oversharing while scarlet just gives the simplest answer.
For example:
Some random person: “where did you guys meet?”
scarlet: oh! in a restaurant-
wolf: i was sent on a mission to kidnap her grandmother because she had some relation to princess selene and they wanted scarlet in order to get her grandmother to confess where princess selene was so i stalked her until we ran into each other in some bar as part of my mission.
random person:
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I’m gonna rank the couples in The Lunar Chronicles and explain why because I’m immensely bored I apologize in advance. And also just because it’s in a lower position doesn’t mean it’s a bad thing like there are only 4 spots-
Also SPOILERS FOR THE SERIES-
4th PLACE
WOLFLET- it’s the whole alpha thing that caused this I’m sorry like they need a lil more screen time and a lot less calling each other alpha. But I did really love them just not in the book Scarlet. I loved them in Cress and Winter when they were separated and it was just immense amounts of pining and I think they’re the most solid/loyal couple in the series like they’d do anything for each other and I love that. Honestly they’re a top tier couple and I wish we got more time with them like SOSN was peak because we got to see them being domestic and like adjusting I loved it. If they were put up against most other couples then they’d win I swear
3RD PLACE
CRESSWELL-these two were almost in 4th actually cuz they’re one of my least favourite tropes where it’s like “experienced suave guy who’s so hot and elite and older” and like “naive girl who’s never left her house and this is in fact the first human she’s spoken too” but somehow they made it enjoyable like I loved how she was like his sight in Cress and how well they work together. He also helps her come out of her shell and know her worth. I also love the fact that he’s a slut in recovery. They’re also the funniest couple and they also had the most slow burn which I enjoyed and I loved their ending. They’re very fun and again in any other circumstance in other list they’d be higher up (I also don’t like that Thorne’s 20+ and she’s 16 like it’s a lil weird-)
2ND PLACE
JACINTER-ok I’m kinda sad I put them in second and not first but yeah they’re my babies. They’re the best amalgamation of tropes I’ve ever seen like they’re childhood best friends to lovers, they’re forbidden love, they’re sun x moon (LISTEN HEAR ME OUT ON THIS), they’re grumpy x sunshine. I also love how much they genuinely adore each other and fight for each other to be safe as much as possible. They also have immense amounts of chemistry and tension in every scene they’re in. I also love that even though Winter is obviously the most vulnerable one in the relationship it doesn’t feel like he’s constantly doting on her like it feels equal like she doesn’t feel like a child being taken care of because of her mental health. I could talk about them hours like the pining the immense pining and the way they talk about and to each other it’s so beautiful like I miss them sm and they’re not popular enough like they’re the cutest I also have a headcanon that when they both move to Earth Jacin eventually retires from being her bodyguard and goes to medical school and they get to grow old somewhere where it always snows.
1ST PLACE
KAIDER- I love them they’re my favourite book couple ever actually like they’re like the first couple I ever genuinely shipped. And they were perfect in EVERY BOOK LIKE I WAS STRAPPED ON THIS TRAIN WITH THEM THEYRE SO ENDEARING AND PERFECT. Like ugh I genuinely had no notes on them for like bad stuff that I didn’t like. Like as I’m typing I’m think of criticism??? They’re so loyal to each other it’s makes me wanna BAWL AND THEYRE SO IN LOVE IT JUST YES. One of the main reasons I love them is because we had the two of them for so long like in Cinder it was only two POVs (if you don’t count Dr. Erland) and we got to see how they felt constantly and they’re such lil idiots and I love them like they’re it. I also love how much they compliment each other and bring out the best parts in the other if that makes sense like Kai learns a lot from her.They did almost lose to Jacinter tho and it came VERY CLOSE
Welp that’s the end. If you read all of ; here’s a heart for the trouble🤍
#the lunar chronicles#tlc cinder#tlc thorne#tlc scarlet#tlc kai#tlc cress#tlc winter#tlc wolf#jacin clay#jacinter#kaider
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post about tlc. anything tlc. headcanons fanart rankings i don’t care. the lunar chronicles by marissa meyer. i am feeling so nostalgic rn can you please post something about tlc so i can pretend it’s 2021/2022 again 🙏
ok here's a 1 minute wolflet i did while waiting in line for my hot chocolate to be made
and here's an unfinished drawing of winter DEAD laying down in the menagerie (rip ryu you were a real one🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽)
also a drawing i started in august (?) i was drawing the tlc girls in the poses from that one time magazine photoshoot from the barbie movie (i need to finish this one actually,, i was gonna do a whole bunch of them)
#i miss tlc so so much and i wanna draw everyone properly so bad but i don't have time anymore😒😒😒😒#they gotta stop setting me so many EXAMS#AHHHHHHH#asks#bea tag#hope this sufficed for now🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 till exams r over#i will be back to my regular tlcposting after#wip#tlc#the lunar chronicles
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Masterlist
Headcanons and AUs
New Year's Eve Party
Christmas
Halloween
University AU
Next Gen AU (Torin Linh | Clay Siblings | Benoit-Kesley Litter | Thorne Twins)
Umbrella Academy AU
Conspiracy Theories
TV Shows they Binge
Road Trip
Memes During TLC (1 2)
Cress and Physical Contact
Vines
Hogwarts
Male Cress
The Rampion Crew As
Gina Linetti Quotes
Bo Burnham Quotes
Good Place Quotes
Things My Friends Have Said
The Office Quotes
Parks and Rec Quotes
Things My Professors Have Said
The Onion Headlines
John Mulaney Quotes
Photos(x) The Real Lunar Chronicles | Crew's Polaroids | Iko's Photo Album
Moodboards(x)
Writing
Song Ficlet Challenge (Wolflet | Kaider)
Character Breakdown (Kai | Iko | Wolf | Scarlet | Dr. Erland | Cinder)
Aesthetics
Other
Cinder is an Asian Asks (1 2 3)
Tag Yourself
Get to Know Me
Valentines (1 2 3)
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I just realized I haven’t done any TLC headcanons-
So I’m doing those now
Cresswell: (Yes I'm starting with them) Thorne gets it into his head that Cress needs to have the feeling of being tall, so he resolves to hoist her up onto his shoulders for a day. Cress laughs and Thorne ends up lowering Cress down after twenty minutes. Cress jokingly says that he isn't strong enough to hold her, but Thorne replies very seriously that he can't kiss Cress if she's up on his shoulders. They end up sharing a passionate one and a milkshake after that.
Jacinter: Remember that cow Winter wanted to milk back in Stars Above? Well, Jacin ends up taking her request seriously and takes her to a farm while they're on an ambassidorial trip. It turns out Jacin is terrified of chickens (don't ask) and Winter holds his hand the whole time so he doesn't freeze up and run away.
Wolflet: Not much of a hc here, just that the ship name sounds like something they'd call their kids. A llitter of baby wolflets.
Kaider: Kai knows how tense Cinder gets with the whole ruling the country thing, so with the help of Torin and Iko, he sneaks down to the palace celler every night and starts moving things in to make a workshop for CInder. He then holds an emergency press conference to say that the empress will be occasionally taking mechanic jobs so that Cinder can become more comfortable in her role as empress.
And bonus, Kinko: Iko doesn't age, at all, being an escort-droid. Well, this is no fun when Kinney starts to age, and so Cress and Cinder are commisioned to create a technology that will allow her to age alongside him (it's the future, this could happen). Kinney is touched by this gesture, even if he doesn't show it.
#the lunar chronicles#tlc#cresswell#kaider#jacinter#wolflet#kinko#marissa meyer#marissa meyer books#the lunar chronicles headcanons#tlc headcanons#cresswell headcanons#kaider headcanons#jacinter headcanons#wolflet headcanons#kinko headcanons#headcanons#books & libraries#marissa meyer headcanons#book headcanons#fairy tale retelling
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give me the most random tlc hc's you have about the crew during the revolution
oh yes please!
number one, wolflet DID NOT HAVE SEX ON THE RAMPION VIOLETA I SWEAR TO GOD I WILL FIGHT YOU TO THE DEATH ON THIS
wolf sang to himself and hummed while making coffee
jacin was purposely luxurious in using the rampion’s supplies. maybe because it had been a while before he could be mean to his peers without punishment, so he took this chance to mess with cinder. because he’s a little bitch.
iko and cress were very close. their friendship started when iko cut her hair and cress confessed to iko about her feelings for thorne. i have no idea if iko’s mental age is fourteen or forty five, but i think it’d be a fun experience for her to just be a girl and have fun. and cress totally did weird technology programming stuff to her. sounds creepy but. oh well.
kaider had unsatisfactory sex for the first time on the rampion and felt a little embarrassed about it for a while, but they eventually powered through it and kept their relationship strong.
wolf wanted to grow a beard, like a huge one, but felt that it would only bring attention to the fact that he’s TWENTY THREE YEARS OLD, so reluctantly kept it clean shaven. he and thorne were definitely beard buddies after the war though.
THORNE AND WOLF ARE BROTHERS OK. wolf is like the older male figure that thorne looked up to, and thorne is wolf’s chance at another younger brother. their contrast between abused lunar soldier and rich, sheltered american really seals the deal for a bomb dynamic. and wolf would totally redefine the idea of masculinity for thorne, really make him get rid of all that toxic shit. he also calls thorne carswell to piss them off. no this is not a carswolf post but could be.
scarlet was either bra-less or only wearing a bra on the rampion. not in a sexual way but in a farm girl way.
#tlc#the lunar chronicles#headcanons#linh cinder#emperor kaito#kaider#scarlet benoit#wolf kesley#wolflet#cress darnel#carswell thorne#cresswell#winter hayle blackburn#jacin clay#jacinter
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headcanon: when wolf and scarlet finally go travel they go to south asia and have a FIELD day,
scarlet tearing up from the spice and trying to communicate with the shop keeps, wolf devouring everything he's offered (and thankfully his stomach can take it)
#i love combining desi shit into everything#god i feel a fic coming#or a huge headcanon list#scarlet benoit#wolf kesley#ze'ev kesley#the lunar chronicles#tlc#tlc fandom#tlc wolf#tlc scarlet#marissa meyer#m's headcanons#tlc headcanons#scarlet x wolf#wolflet#kaider#jacinter#lunar chronicles#q'ed up
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Jane Doe ships Jacolf!
jane doe (rtc) ships jacolf (tlc)
#jacolf#jacin clay#tlc#wolf kesley#the lunar chronicles#kaider#jacinter#rtc#wolflet#cresswell#jane doe#jane doe rtc#funny#rtc headcanons#tlc headcannons#musicals
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ALRIGHT so like after rereading the stars above epilouge i’ve been reminded of one of my like biggest head cannon question and it’s when how does kaider announce to their friends they’re engaged? AND I FEEL LIKE YOU WOULD KNOW SO I PUR MY TRUST IN YOU BITCH 🫶🫶
You're no longer Ken! 😂
Ugh, I struggle with scenes like these! It's the same reason I never write weddings or proposals for characters: I'm content to leave those things as unknowns because if I try to boil it down to one idea I always feel it's too important a moment to be captured. So in this case, I think it could go so many ways!
I do love a simple just telling their friends over dinner. Say they all reunite again a few months after Wolflet's wedding. Everyone yelling over the top of each other, arguing to pass the bread rolls, 'stop hogging the salad' and Thorne trying to steal Jacin's seat. Cinder and Kai stand up, waiting for the chaos to subside. It doesn't, so Kai shouts, "hey! listen!" They all fall silent. Kai and Cinder smile giddily, link hands and announce, "we're engaged!" And of course chaos breaks out. Good this time.
Another version is a little more crack.
Cinder just starts wearing the engagement ring around her friends. But since they are all spread out over the galaxy, it's a gradual process. Kaider have fun with this. Once their friends notice, they ask them to stay quiet to see how long it takes for the others. Cinder told Iko personally, so she's bursting at the seams but restrains herself. Scarlet notices first and is of course ecstatic. Wolf doesn't notice the ring but does notice Scarlet's high heart rate as she struggles not to blab to him. He keeps asking if she's okay, then she points at Cinder, and he eventually figures it out. "Oh," he says finally. "Oh?!" Scarlet yells, "how did you not notice?" Wolf admits that he doesn't pay much attention to things other than her. Winter is next. She says something like "oh dear cousin, every little soldier in my frozen palette manufacturing plant is rejoicing at this news." And Cinder just has the lady processing maths face and asks, "so you're...happy for us?" Cress doesn't notice. Thorne does and, after whooping and congratulating them, immediately inspects the ring and starts guessing how much it would sell for on the black market. Cinder doesn't let him near it after that. Cress looks on--confused--and whispers to Kai, "is the ring important?" Kai smirks and replies, "well I suppose, but I hope she didn't say yes only for the ring." Then comes the, "wait, did you propose?" and the squealing. With her sheltered upbringing, Cress forgot which hand the wedding ring is on and didn't pay attention to it. So then all that's left is Jacin. He didn't notice when Winter did, and he didn't notice when they were all together for dinner on Luna. He doesn't notice at the peace ball, or Winter's diplomatic mission to the Commonwealth, or even when they are all playing cards and the ring is adamantly on the display. Months pass and everyone is frustrated waiting for this guy to get a clue. Meanwhile, Thorne likes to make a game out of it: "Cinder is engaged...in a very serious work meeting." "Can you believe Kai is moving onto his second wife already? At his age?" Winter is the most frustrated of all because she can't speak of wedding plans with the one person she speaks to the most. So one day she pulls up a photo of Cinder and Kai, hand visible, and asks, "do you notice anything different about them, Jacin?" Jacin snorts and says, "yeah, Kai looks stupid in those pink sunglasses." "No, they're engaged!" Anyway Jacin knew the whole time. He just never acknowledged it because he never cared. At least, that's what everyone else thinks. But Jacin was having lots of fun with it.
As I said I just can't settle on anything definite! So I want to hear everyone's headcanons for it!
#lunar chronicles#tlc#the lunar chronicles#kaider#linh cinder#emperor kai#winter hayle blackburn#scarlet benoit#wolf kesley#carswell thorne#jacin clay#cress darnel#iko
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tlc modern headcanons pt. 2 👁👁 (but make it couples)
kaider - draws on cinder’s prosthetic hand and leg all the time. i don't make the rules. when kissing cinder rips his clothes sometimes bc that damn hand is too strong 😞💔 steals kai’s clothes, not to be cute, but because they genuinely fit her and are actually functional. kai gets excited whenever he smells motor oil. cin has better tolerance for alcohol than kai so often drives him home, along with the rest of the crew (designated driver alert)!!!!!
wolflet - wolf be knocking over shit in the kitchen bc he’s just too big :( also the scene where wolf breaks into the farm happens. it happens in every AU in some variation. i don't make the rules. wolf is himbo but also complete virg. scarlet is mommy gf. what else can i say. wolf LOVES her freckles so much its not even funny he gave a name for each and every one of them. he named the one t the bridge of her nose after maha because he’s kind of weir....d........
cresswell - thorne possibly loves his car (some big hippie van) more than cress. but only by a centimeter. he learned how to play guitar for cress, and she learned obscure car facts for him ❤ oh and yall know that thorne got into some trouble and was in the hospital and cress is his emergency contact and they confessed to each other liiiiiiiiiikeeeeee......... shhebsh. also back to cars they have drive-in dates and stuff all the time 😙 and you all also know they went on a cross country roadtrip easy easy
jacinter - they meditate together in the mornings. winter cuts his hair all the time. winter lets him draw like. veins and stuff on her while he’s studying for med school (that makes sense, right?? i will put a picture) they eat super healthy food too aaand go to plays and stuff. they just be acting all regal for no reason. and they deserve it. also #childhood friends alert
basically draws this ^^^^^ on her arm with markers. i swear its cuter than its looks
sybana (sybil x levana) - evil disaster lesbians
also sorry if i’ve been spamming the tlc tag i just cant help it i love my babies so much. gonna make an alignment chart of them later bee tee dubs stayed tuned babes
#the lunar chronicles#lunar chronicles#tlc#tlc fandom#tlc headcanons#modern au#marissa meyer#cinder#linh cinder#selene blackburn#tlc cinder#kaider#kai x cinder#prince kai#emperor kai#i wish kai had a last name </3#scarlet benoit#tlc scarlet#wolflet#ze'ev kesley#cress#tlc cress#crescent moon darnel#carswell throne#cresswell#the rampion crew#winter blackburn#winter hayle blackburn#jacin clay#jacinter
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🌜THE LUNAR CHRONICLES PLAYLIST🌛
Hi! So, this are a few songs inspired on ships from TLC (yk in case the fandom is still alive please)
I hope you like it, if you have any other song you would like to add, feel free to comment
✨ Cinder x Kai ✨
• Rewrite the stars// the greatest showman
• Sucker// Jonas Brothers
• Nervous// Shawn Mendes
• They don't know about us// 1D
✨ Scarlet x Wolf ✨
• Fairly Local (Wolf af)// TOP
• Little red riding hood//aeseaes
• Wolves// Selena Gomez
• Paris// The Chainsmokers
✨ Cress x Thorne ✨
• In the name of love// Martin Garrix
• Red Desert// 5SOS
• I see the light (obviously)// Tangled
• Crush// Tessa Violet
✨ Winter x Jacin ✨
• Unconditionally// Katy Perry
• Meet me in the hallway// Harry Styles
• A thousand years// Christina Perry
• All of me// John Legend
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(I'm gonna be honest, I don't ship Kiko too much so I couldn't find any songs that would fit im sorry don't kill me haha)
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#The Lunar Chronicles#Marissa Meyer#TLC#Cinder#Kai#Kaider#Scarlet#Wolf#Wolflet#cress darnel#cresswell#cress#thorne#captain carswell thorne#winter x jacin#winter#jacin#books#tlc headcanons#tlc#tlc thorne#tlc kai
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I dont know if it's just me but I always imagined when Cinder wanted children she would adopt a kid who was a cyborg like her and was unwanted because of it. She would be able to understand what they were going because she knows what it feels like to be unloved for things she cant control so even as their bond slowly grows as they are first wary of her because of her status and history, when they finally do have that connection it's the purest form of it. Kai would be like the sweetest dad ever as we already know he has a certain skill with showing understanding through any situation or appearance. Their kid would be thrown into the world of politics with their father and mother being the emperor and empress of the country and they would most definitely have the money to provide this kid who deserves more than what's been given to them. Kai definitely would spoil them and Cinder would call him out for it all the time but he just wouldn't be able to help himself. Not only would they have the greatest parents but also the coolest aunts and uncles a kid could have. Uncle Thorne would randomly drop by and take them on rides in his spaceship to places in America just for the heck of it, much to the annoyance of Cinder, and when Cinder and Kai have overseas meetings where they have to leave the country for a while, they stay with Scarlet and Wolf on their farm where they would learn work ethic and also become great friends with Wolflets kids, Iko would always be around and be a good friend as well as their personal stylist as she randomly orders cute clothes she finds online and takes part in spoiling them as well, Cress would play strategy games with them and beat them every time but would always be nice about it, Winter and Jacin would visit the palace all the time and they would absolutely adore Winter because she is always up for playing with them or telling them stories of wolves and palaces and magic. Jacin seems to show his soft side around kids and always has good advice. This kid would go from being unloved, unwanted, and uncared for to having so many people in their life to support them and love them just as it had been with Cinder. Just imagine.
#cinder#scarlet#cress#winter#tlc#the lunar chronicles#emperor kaito#wolf#kaider#wolflet#cress darnell#linh cinder#scarlet benoit#winter hayle blackburn#headcanon#marissa meyer#thorne#carswell thorne#iko
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TLC Gen 2 Headcanon Masterlist
Here is a list of all the headcanons for my TLC Gen 2 kiddos! Will be edited as I add more :)
Kaider and Jacinter kids cousin relationship
Shipping Gen 2 kids
Kesley Triplets
Growing up on the Benoit Farms
Growing up on the Rampion
Growing up in the Palace of the Eastern Commonwealth
Growing up as children of the Lunar Ambassador
#tlc gen 2#headcanons#kaider#jacinter#wolflet#cresswell#cousins#triplets#links#masterlist#marissa meyer#the lunar chronicles
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y’all....
TLC couples as songs from Future Nostalgia pls go stream miss Dua’s album (and think about these parallels 😭)
Cress and Thorne: Levitating !!!
Scarlet and Wolf: Future Nostalgia (“i bet you’re not used to a female alpha 😭😭😭😭😭”)
Winter and Jacin: Hallucinate !!!
Cinder and Kai: Pretty Please!!
#tlc#tlc headcanons#the lunar chronicles#kaider#wolflet#cresswell#winter#linh cinder#can someone tell me what jacin and winter’s ship name is#marissa meyer
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