#wkm lore

[r0ttente3th]

hey if anyone wants the Who Killed Markiplier and a bit of Wilford Motherluvin Warfstache lore, heres all of it! (that i know of!)

WHO KILLED MARKIPLIER + WILFORD MOTHERLUVIN WARFSTACHE SPOILERS BELOW!!!!

have fun!! also please have watched WKM and maybe WMLW before reading

so damien, mark, and will have been friends since they were young. there is a woman named celine in all of this, who is damiens twin sister. mark dates celine because he loves her, but she cheats on him with will. so mark of course is beyond fucking angry at will, even though it was actively celines choice to cheat on him. so mark invites them all over for a dinner, all of them being damien, will, abe the detective (not an ego), anddd i think thats it?? other than us, the viewer, the district attorney, who happens to look a LOT like damien. mark dies. will doesnt care too much because he understands mark was angry at him, and damien gets upset with will because yknow, their friend just died and hes kinda nonchalant. so with abe, we start to try and find clues of who killed markiplier, of which will is always a bit suspicious. All the sudden, celine knocks on the door, and lets everyone know that something is happening that involves black/ evil magic.

everyones kinda like, woah, huh? and she just kinda, forces everyone to do some stuff? she does something with a crystal ball in a room, upon another character (forget his name) says "hey, ive prepped for this, we gotta get out of here or youll all die". damien says no, goes in to try and help his sister, and will and abe fight because will is sus. will accidentally shoots abe through the heart, and while we're trying to wrestle the gun away from him, he shoots us, and we canonically die. we wake up in a black void, where damien and celine are there. they explain to us that actor mark has actively possessed damiens body (through the crystal ball thing celine i did i guess??) and has the ability to basically warp time and space, and create his own personal timeline in a way. but before we "died", damien had an encounter with mark (where he learned this info, celine already knew and was trying to protect him ig), and this is where actor mark tells him "im going to make my own story, the one where shit goes my way, but every story needs a villain" and he actively pushes damien to be said villain. anyways, we meet in the void, get informed, and celine tells us she can do something (i cant remember), but whatever happens, whatever she does, results in all three of us, damien, celine, and us, repossessing the district attorneys body. but considering i think it involves black magic, damien, or the body, now known as darkipier, has dark powers as well and is a little bit goofy! anyways, dark decides to be actors villain, but in the way he doesnt want him to be.

Darks entire personality to me is ironic because his main goal is to literally be as fucking annoying as possible, fuck up all of actors storylines and basically just be a pain in his fucking ass throughout the stories he creates

anyways, we wake up to will sitting on a nearby bench, clutching damiens little staff (because he had one), and we can see hes yknow..... fucking shocked! is beyond happy that we arent dead, and proceeds to be delusional, think its all just some funny sick joke, and stumbles off screen calling for damien. and this is where it gets kinda complicated??? so, think of like, each of marks videos as well,,, a video, or a comic book! actor can create videos of his own, and proceed to crawl into the white space of the comic books. dark and wilford (who becomes wilford after the WKM incident, william J barnum quite literally no longer exists) can also do that. each character has their own story, which is obviously written! but william was pushed out of his character because he ran into a scenario that wasnt scripted for him, which is where he becomes wilford warfstache. so what he does, is he spends years hopping into other peoples storylnies, trying to break them out of character because hes the only one who is truly aware. and then "wilford motherloving warfstache happens", where abe comes back (because he wasnt supposed to die), and is actively hunting him down because he killed us, the district attorney.

all he remembers is, the stuff that his character needs to know. he doesnt know where hes been ig, hes just the classic detective noir character. he knows hes hunting down warf, doesnt need to know the specifics bc his CHARACTER already knows it. but, he encounters warfstache! manages to capture him, which im presuming wasnt meant to happen, because this is where he realizes: 'wait.. i dont know anything about where youve been, i dont know any of the specifics, i dont actually have all the places youve supposedly been'. and warfstache manages to break him out of character. abe ofc is freaking the fuck out because that technically means none of this is real, and none of it makes sense. so warf technically presses pause on abes youtube video, and says 'hey, you need to destress, lets have some fun before you have to go back to your story'. because in a sense, wills story already ended, so warf has to create his own story line. he has no destined future. so they dance and have fun because inevitably, abe will have to resume his own story, and warf is gonna be left alone with nobody bc nobody is sentient! which is why hes constantly trying to fuck shit up too! breaks in suddenly in the middle of videos, causes havoc, because hes trying to create a scenario that breaks the person out of their character, so theyre aware like him. anyways, he inevitably starts to go insane and desperate, which is why hes known for 'haha shooty shooty bang bang!' because hes just, kinda fucked in the head i think. anyways we havent had a continuation in awhile really, but thats where they all kinda are atm!!

have fun!!

[crypticandchaotic]

Ok so for Markiplier lore we already have established that actor mark is not engineer mark but I need to know if heist mark and date mark are actor mark. Because everyone I see mark in that suit it never feels right. He has the same mannerisms but it makes me wonder if that's the switch between actor and heist mark. One of the connects that ISWM has to AHWM is that dark uses the crystal for the box for heist because that's what we steal in AHWM.

But what bothers me is that heist mark know the captain as the captain and their buddy. So what must have happened in between heist and ISWM is that the captain was in hesit escaped out of jail and then went to space and then somewhere along the way they were also a detective and the director calls the captain to help him find mark. Of course the director was heist mark and refers to them as the captain. So heist mark and engineer mark are not the same.

Heist mark and date mark however are the same because of the reset and thats how ADWM starts.

Sometimes I wonder if the captain as a character is mute ( other than the fact that the person holding the camera cannot talk but I'm talking about this as if they are character not from a filming standpoint)

The Captain is morbidly curious about this universe and this could be because they are aware of the fourth wall. Like Warfstache the Captains mind also broke and that gave them access to the fourth wall and the choices. In Wkm they don't have any choices. But as we get into the ADWM AHWM and ISWM they are more and more aware of the narrative of the story and of the characters.

It also makes me wonder what the over all story for the captain is other than pure wonder and manic curiosity. Like despite their awareness of the fourth wall they are still a character in the show they are still making choices and growing through the motions of life.

Another thing that I find confusing is that the captain is a character who is running between two timelines. There is one timeline which is WKM, ADWM, AHWM,and then ISWM. But as we all know the timeline also runs backwards with ISWM then AHWM and then ADWM. The true ending of ADWM is Warfstache asking y/n or rather the captain of they know who they really are and it turns out to be Chica. But obviously that's just a gag and the narrative is unreliable and we have a situation of the unreliable narrator.

This has been a hyper fixation of mine for a while now so now I'm just super confused with the lore

[0crooked-arcade0]

Something about the Markiplier cinematic universe I think needs to be talked about is the fact that literally 80% of the reason it's so compelling is because it doesn't take itself seriously at all. It's just a story that's an absurdly chaotic mess, and I mean that positively.

Who Killed Markplier is a tragedy at its core, a very well done example of, even if you try to do all the right things, sometimes you still fail, and there's no way to fix what's already been said and done.

'DAMIEN' has hauntingly beautiful scenery, it's an outsiders perspective of an altercation between two unreliable narrators that gives little context to its premise, immersing us in our place as a bystander.

All that being said, it's juxtaposed by;

-The man cast ending up in space with zero explanation.

-Two men getting into a fistfight in a movie theater parking lot in borad daylight in a violently slapstick manner.

-William telling the group he once got sucked into jumanji and nobody even questioning it.

-The viewers very existence being used to play up a series of visual gags with absolutely no context, (Pocket Sand, for example.)

-Darks tendency to pull a 'draw me like one of your French girls' while speaking to us in fucking riddles

-The stunt dummy being kept in after the editing phase

-Literally 90% of the shit Actor does despite being a revenge fueled monster, he wears crocs everywhere like c'mon

-HeeHoo

Honestly I think it's great because it allows you to play with the worldbulding extensively as there's debatably no concrete facts one way or another. I'm writing at the moment and using it to my advantage and will probably post more about that soon.

[andaboop]

Damien doesn't need help in getting what he wants but isn't above redeeming favors from his long time connections, familial or other

[fictionalsownme]

the feminine urge to write damien x district attorney from their days back at university (silent yearning, a drunken kiss they both pretend to not remember, confiding in each other & taking care of each other in small ways no one else would notice) but knowing it would all end in tragedy anyway

[aqua-tear]

“Maybe you just miss my pretty face.”

[thermodynamic-comedian]

i hate actor mark so much but he's so funny. he's divorced. he's on perole. he thinks he's the main character. he's the villain. he's a bitch. he failed so hard he had to kill all his friends. he planned all of this but nothing is going according to his plan. he's a loser and not cute or likeable about it. he has every personality disorder and is bad representation for all of them. i am going to beat him up and still smile everytime i see him.

[gaymingintrovert]

I love it when you have a 100+ year old character who froze physically at age 30 that specifically flirts with/dates other 100+ year old 30s looking characters. Even better if they’re all Eldrich horrors

[clemblog]

Interesting discovery time.

So I decided to put Miss Whitacre’s surname into a word unscrambler for curiosities sake. Here’s what I got!

Which I know isn’t perfect and definitely isn’t something mark did on purpose but hey look what these words mean:

The story potential here is incredible-

[whoriangay]

(Minor flash warning)

I made a lil something that I don’t wanna post to TikTok where the trend actually is cause I hate it there :3

[fuffleton]

the most dangerous game

[astrumnihilum]

My interpretation of WKM (aka "Damien's Late Night Lore Ramblings")

Mark's plan with the aid of the Manor Spirit was to host this party with all of his friends (except for Celine, his wife who cheated on him with Will.) After the party started and while everyone was drunk, he would die in a way that nobody would remember the day after. Once he was dead, he would give up his body and have the Manor Spirit aid him in transferring his own soul into Will's body. After the case was investigated and everything hopefully resolved, Mark (as Will) would go on to possibly marry Celine and live the rest of Will's life with her. He thought that Celine would only like Will, and he was probably right. Mark himself didn't seem to be the best husband to her if she cheated on him. However, Mark did not account correctly for almost everything that followed his death. Many of his friends started fighting and his plan was slowly falling apart. Then, just as Mark thought it couldn't get any worse, Celine walked in. She must've known what had happened and what Mark's plan was and was ready to burn down everything. She told the DA where to go with Will: outside of the Manor, while she would confront Mark inside, with Damien there as well. The entire time, Damien seemed genuinely confused, and she needed to show him the truth behind Mark as well. With Damien's visits to the Manor before, he could also be helping Celine with the confrontation, lying low to oppose Mark's plan. They fought a strong battle inside the Manor, and Celine was doing well, but Mark had an escape plan. He had to live through someone. And the one body that was left… was Damien's. He forced him out of his own body, trapped Celine's physical body in the Manor, and left, leaving the rest of the group confused and traumatized. Now that Mark was gone, two souls were stuck in the Manor, with their bodies gone or trapped. Eventually, everyone was either dead or left, except for Will and the DA. When Will eventually killed the DA, Damien and Celine had their chance to make a deal with them to gain a body and take revenge on Mark. They left the DA inside the nearby mirror, walking away with their body to seek out Mark.

Aand thats WKM! All of this is speculation and I doubt that Markiplier wrote the story to be like this, but I adore analyzing the story and making my own interpretation. After all, the best way to express deep thoughts is through storytelling, and maybe Markiplier has some expressions in his works.

[0crooked-arcade0]

Ok, something that came to my attention is that if you frame Actor as being Mark's self insert character, the entire way the character carries himself is immediately ten times funnier.

Typically a self insert is a reflection of a persons desired traits, but Mark decided to back that train of logic into reverse in the most drastic way possible.

I mean just look at Actor-

He's divorced, he's been to prison, he has zero sense of direction and no idea what's happening a good chunk of the time, he wears crocs with a three peice suit like it's a normal fashion statement, he didn't have pants on the entire time he was executing his revenge plan, hes a sopping wet rag of a human and he is so violently depressed, he's the inventor of what's commonly known as 'Gaslighting'-

Darkiplier is at least one third his ex wife, Mark didn't need to make that a plot point, he just did and the fact that nobody brings that up is wild to me, good for him though.

The cast at large is a collection of people who are all at fault in their own ways, but Mark took one look at the story he was crafting and said 'I'm going to be the worst person in the room' and I respect that so much.

Even the way Mark carries himself differently from his normal speaking tone when playing this guy is immaculate, the voice acting is absolutely wild. I still can't rewatch 'Damien' because as soon as I hear that asshole start yelling it kicks in my fight or flight response.

TL;DR Actor is a great villain but his execution is so violently off the wall it's absurd, props to Mark for making me genuinely afraid of theater kid.

[captain-solemn-titty]

fuck you actor mark you would have loved a.i.

[buzzybee3xoxo]

JIM!!

[aqua-tear]

Angry boy >:(