#winx ancestral witches

[charmixpower]

"When the three Ancestral Witches attacked the Magic Dimension..."

[witch-ix]

The Dragon Flame, the Phoenix Flame and the Water Stars

The Great Dragon was the source of life, light and creation. When it created the galaxy of the magic dimension, its own opposite came to existence – the Shadow Phoenix, embodiment of death, darkness and destruction.

It thought the beauty life holds is outweighed by its torments and life was a mistake, because it is suffering. That’s why it wanted to destroy life and order, until all is one again. To achieve that, it would let everyone suffer, in hopes they get its point.

So, the Great Dragon fought with the Shadow Phoenix and was ultimately able to imprison it in the undergrounds of Magix, just underneath the planets biggest lake. Inside that lake resided a Leviathan, which got chosen as the guard of the Shadow Phoenix and gifted with magic, which could destroy both the magic of the Phoenix and the Dragon.

Giving up this part of its magic, the Great Dragon was exhausted and chose the same planet to rest on, split its magic into nine parts and scattered them across the globe.

Centuries passed, until it felt the end of its life nearing and it decided to give what was left of its magic to the first Fairy, who it had become good friends with. The Fairy turned into the first Keeper of the Dragon Flame.

At the same time, and with the Great Dragon doing his last breath, the Shadow Phoenix burned up, only leaving behind its powers.

Only a few weeks passed and the first three Witches entered the prison of the Shadow Phoenix, discovering the three pieces of the Phoenix Flame. Each of them took one piece and connected with its powers.

With their new powers the three Witches went to fight the Fairy, wanting to take the Dragon Flame away from their younger sister. They defeated her, imprisoning her spirit inside the Timeless Realm, which she had created with the magic of the Dragon Flame. They also put a curse onto the realm turning it into a place untouched by time.

However, the Fairies girlfriend, another Fairy, asked the Leviathan of the lake to help and stop the three Witches, who had achieved immortality. So, the Leviathan gave up its magic, creating five Water Stars and turning itself into the Ice Serpent.

With the Water Stars the Fairy went up against the Witches. She was able to take the flames from them and remove their spirits from their immortal bodies, imprisoning them in the deepest trench of Omega – Oblivion, guarded by the Serpent.

She put the Dragon Flame into the Magical Core of Domino and the three pieces of the Phoenix Flame back into the former prison of the Shadow Phoenix. Locking the power away with the Magic of the Water Stars. Giving those to the Timeless Realm, so her girlfriends spirit would keep them safe.

She herself kept studying the magic of her homerealm, eventually unlocking the grater power within it’s Magical Core and turning into the Nymph of Magical Essence. Ultimately, she found a way to join her girlfriend inside the Timeless Realm, where they formed the Council of Elders – a group of five magic users, who had each achieved something new and great. Each one of them was tasked with the responsibility of keeping one Water Star save from those with malicious intentions.

[daydreamsia]

I just realized - the villains in the show are showing up in a really weird order (only speaking of seasons 1-3 and Secret of the Lost Kingdom).

In my mind it would make more sense if season 2 was for Valtor - maybe he comes out of hinding after 16 years when he heard the Power of the Dragon Flame is back. He has been sent by his creators (the Ancestral Witches) to gather power in order to free them from their imprisionment and bring the Shadow Phoenix back to former power.

He would also be the one turning Bloom into Dark Bloom in order to get a hold of her powers.

Of course he would have gotten Icy and Stormy out of Light Rock Monetary (Darcy refused, wanted to stay and he respected that). He would have given them a piece of the Shadow Flame in order to boost their powers and created the Gloom. (In my mind the Ancestral Witches created him with a spark of the Dragon Flame and a spark of the Shadow Flames).

Everyrhing else would play out similar to season 2. Valtor would just be the one in Darkars Place. And i guess the Pixies wouldn't play as big of a part in the beginning.

Season 3 would then be about the Ancestral Witches and Icy who is the only one of the Trix left, since Stormy stayed in Omega whilest Icy followed the calling of Belladonna and chose to fight on their side. And she gets really mad. In the prozess of gaining enaugh Power she's tapping into Dark Magic and gains Disenchantment (through killing someone).

The Winx Girls would still earn Enchantix and I guess Icy would have to do the main things Valtor does in the show - giving others (mainly Cassandra and Diaspro) what they want in order to help the ancestral Witches get out of their prison.

The Winx (minus Bloom, because her Enchantix is incomplete) get the Water Stars (also Bloom has to stay away from them because they could destroy her power). The Witches get out of their imprisionment. Dark Bloom has a little comeback to because the incomplete Enchantix makes everything weird.

In the end Icy would be defeated in a final fight á la Agni Kai and the Spirits of the Ancestral Witches would get set to rest for good. But! they were able to Reawaken the Shadow Phoenix.

So he would be the last villain for the Winx in my Version of Secret of the Lost Kingdom.

I know this is far from beeing a full-fledged plan - it's just a late night thought i had. It would make so much more sense to me like that because Darkar is the literal Darkness. He should be the big end boss.

I will think more about this and might use it for my AU.

[bluewings55]

So as you already saw on my Winx Sirenix redesigns and what I mentioned in another post: I wanted to share more about my Winx Club Sona.

However, her powers are linked to a change that I made in this Universe so I think it's better to first explain about the changes I made before blabbering about my Sona.

Winx Club Sona AU/Universe Changes

The first Change starts with the Great dragon.

I always thought it was weird how one dragon could be the origin of everything.

It just didn't make any sense to me how one element (aka fire) could create everything, and then the power opposite in season 2 was introduced, and then the water stars. It got confusing so let me tell you my idea in Form of a Legend.

I will make another post, kinda summarizing the main ideas and how everything works, so have fun!

Spoiler, it's long

Legend of the Four dragons

Before creation of the dimensions, there were four dragons:

the Fire Dragon,

the Earth Drake,

the Water Leviathan,

and the Sky Wyvern.

All four dragons combined their powers to create the Magic dimension, bringing magic and light into the world.

Earth created the environment, mountains and hills, decorating the world with flora.

Water brought the oceans, rivers and lakes into the world, making sure that both Earth and Sky can provide.

Sky took the water and created weather, freely working on its own in the air and atmosphere that she brought to life.

Fire brought light into the world, working together with the Sky to create day and night, bringing warmth into the dimensions.

By combining their magic together, they created the first fairy, born from pure light. Alongside the dragons fairy looked out for other creatures with the ability to harness magic. Together, they thought them about the magic the dragons provided:

Water, earth, fire, sky and light magic.

As time passed by, the Fire dragon surprised the people with a part of its Flame, giving them everlasting strength and warmth. The people across all universes started to worship the Fire dragon more due to the gift, giving him the name "the Great Dragon". A shadow of envy reached the other dragons, trying to poison their minds, especially working well with the Sky Wyvern,

How come only he got recognized?

All dragons worked together to create the universes.

Why only him?

Just because he gave them a part of its power?

These whispers drove the wyvern mad. The shadows chuckled as the Sky wyvern confronted the great dragon, but he denied all of it, saying that all people loved them equally.

But the wyvern didn't believe him.

Blinded by her anger, the darkness that was created alongside the dragons and their magic took the opportunity to consume the wyvern, working alongside with the the source of all dark magic:

The ancestral witches

With the wyvern's help, they stole a part of the dragon flame and created the shadow phoenix, ordering it to defeat the dragon.

But their plan failed.

The other dragon's power combined again and drove away the dark forces in the deep underground where it stayed hidden, waiting for the right moment to strike.

The other dragons soon found out about the cooperation and decided to punish them all. As the ancestral witches abandoned the sky wyvern, leaving her there to fend for herself, her corrupted heart burned with hatred and rage and started attacking them all. Due to her instability, the other three were forced to seal her away, taking away her powers and breaking them into shards, hiding them all over the magic dimensions.

The three dragons managed to seal away the weakened Sky Wyvern, trapping her in the Crystal of Power. Before her spirit was trapped in the crystal, she made an oath to break free from her prison, take back her power and bring calamity to both light and darkness.

After that incident, the dragons became hostile against each other, fearing that one of them would turn evil. The dragons split ways and kept to themselves, thinking it was the best thing to do.

As years passed, the dragons turned old and weak, realizing that they fulfilled their destiny. They decided to rest for eternity and each chose their resting place and a parting gift.

Before the Earth drake's death, she gifted the land of Linphea everlasting spring, creating the Black Willow and the tree of Life. She chose her resting place on an island far away, using her own body to create a mountain. Rumor says that if you find the island, you can still see the drake's silhouette as the base of the mountain.

The Water Leviathan chose the infinity ocean as his resting place. Before he left, he created the Water stars and gifted them to the land of Andros to protect them from any evil source. As he passed away, the Water stars and Dragon Flame's powers crashed against each other and were forced to be sealed away in a different universe to avoid any more chaos.

The Fire dragon was the last to go and choose a Keeper for the Dragon flame, giving them the ability to harness its power and to protect their people from any harm that might come in the future. As he closed his eyes on his Resting place being Domino, he could leave this world in peace, as he knew that everyone would be save forever.

If you made it to the end: congrats!

If you have any questions, feel free to leave them in the comments!

[darlenicy]

I love how Icy really spits the words "Daphne had to spoil everything" in the German dub. Like "Ughh your goddamn stupid sis had to SPOIL everything! Ehhm hello?? how DARE she?" and i am too... yeah, how dare she!

imagine, how interesting winx could have been if the ancestral witches had won the battle of Domino. The whole dimension would have been under their rule. And maybe some rebels would turn against them. But the witches knew, they had to find the source of power - bloom and get her back to get all of her powers. sounds familiar? Well, that's basically what W.i.t.c.h. did. 🤣

But just imagine! The company of light could have played a way bigger role! And the Trix would have been raised to be heirs to the ancestral witches and might have wanted to overthrow them at some point. And then there was the race against time between good and evil who would find bloom first. And when we're already talking about W.i.t.c.h. - a group of young fairies find her first by accident - they later form the Winx. And they become friends but they don't tell Bloom anything to not put her in danger and then the ancestral witches find her and, like Phobos and Cedric did with Elyon, convince her, that her friends betrayed her.... yeah forget it, that would totally be the W.i.t.c.h. plot. 😂

[vicontheinternet]

daphne 🤝 politea

Being niffins in my head

Nabu 🤝 the ancestral witches

[elsa-fogen]

The Past and The Future

Lore moment?

[darkpoisonouslove]

I am not taking criticisms.

[mzsvelenaya]

Winx Fanart time !

Initially, I wanted to do their final confrontation instead of their past. But it wasn't enough dramatic

Keep reading to see the art upside down

[kingixsstuff]

❄️⚡️⚫️Trix disenchantix redesign ⚡️❄️⚫️

OK, finally redesigned disenchantix!!!?

Initially, every time I redesigned this form, I never found something. I was happy with because I honestly really like the designs from the show even though they’re very unpopular only thing I would change is make it mirror enchantix a little bit more

But While, I really have fun and I really like the Torrn sash look I gave the girls !!!

All right, but I hope you guys like and I hope you guys have a wonderful day !

[redfountainpostin]

Ok but what if trix killed their parents

I've been thinking and like, in canon, they are the DESCENDANTS of the 3 ancient witches, not their reincarnations, so they came from somewhere. No parent ever came looking for them. They'd still need parental consent forms to go to Cloud Tower. So why not just kill em in some fucked up ritual. They did it sometime in their second year prolly. Honestly I thought abt it being a secret but they could have staged it as an accident so yeah, Griffin knows they lost their parents- (YOOOO MAYBE THAT'S WHY SHE'S SO LIGHT ON THEM AND DOESN'T EXPEL THEM WAY EARLIER SHE WAS SAD FOR THREE POOR ORPHANS- yo I love it when the bacteria in my head just connect shit). RIVEN PROBABLY WENT TO THE GRAVE WITH DARCY. (my other option for trix was to have them be THE ancient witches- not even reborn or reincarnated, just reassembled- but that adds an EXTREMELY dark turn for riven and although I would love to steal from shadow and bone and have someone tell him "She isn't a girl at all. She is eternal. And you never stood a chance" it kinda messes with my other HCs about them so that's it's own, separate thing. Stranger danger riven.)

[charmixpower]

Winxtober Day Five: Unity

Stuff happened and I got a little behind on my prompts Lmao

Anyways these are Elitix, canonly the ancestral witches renamed because I didn't want them all to be witches/the way Valtor works wouldn't be functional if Belladonna wasn't a fairy, in their emblemix/charmix!

I know the real reason the Ancestral Witches act in perfect unity is because the writers didn't give enough of a shit to give them different personalities but I thought it would be cute for them in my rewrite to have no clear leadership and for them to act in harmony with each other. Perfect teamwork and friendship from the worst people you know

I fused them with other characters bc they don't have personalities so Politea and Belladonna are the same person, Tharma and Zatura, and Arthur and Liliss. Mostly so I'd have a place to start when designing them that wasn't the Trix but old

Belladonna is in the middle bc she's the most narratively relevant for Icy and Valtor related reasons, and if you're wondering what's up with her hair she's from the same planet as Riven. Their hair is just like that

[wtfastaroth]

Now theyre all here, Belladonna, Lysslyss e Tharma before the curse.

[daydreamsia]

ok, so

the Ansetral Witches - Belladonna, Liliss and Thamara - were triplets, which is why coven menbers now are treated like siblings (why Icy, Darcy and Stormy call each other sisters)

but it also happens, the Ancestral Coven gets "followers", who are always a coven of three Witches as well. This is how it comes; Witches are seen as evil.

The Ancestrals are able to reach powerful Witches minds and guide them, even tho they are stuck in Oblivion.

The three coven Witches before the Trix were -

Mandragora, who mastered the use of Dark Magic, thus became the Dark Witch of Chaos

Kalshara, who mastered the use of Wild Magic, which made her the Witch of Wild Magic

and Lady Griffin

Griffin was able to block Liliss out of her mind and left their Coven when the other two created Valtor, which was only shortly before Jotunn was destroyed and Domino cursed. She's also Darcy's mother.

[bluewings55]

This is a summary for the recent Winx club Sona AU I made. If you want to check it out: here's the link to the post:

So to summarize and some things to explain:

There are four dragons, each having his/her own element. All of them combined their magic to create light magic, and cus the ancestral witches were born, followed by light being it's opposite, dark magic was created as well.

By having base/main elements (fire, water earth sky, light and dark), wizards, witches and fairies draw their magic from a different source.

That means Flora draws her magic from the Earth drake, Aisha from the water leviathan, witches from the ancestral witches, Musa and Tecna from the Sky wyvern.

Of course 'regular' people that can wield magic have no connection to the main sources (of course there are exceptions like Bloom, the Trix, Valtor, etc)

And before you ask me "Why Musa and Tecna from sky magic? That makes no sense!".

It actually does:

What happens if you walk through the forest when it's windy? The leaves rustle and make noise. What do you need to use a flute for example? Your breath. Air and wind can make noise as well, creating a melody or their own sound.

And techno magic is TECNA-cally (⁠・⁠∀⁠・⁠) a form of Electro magic. So there ya go.

Light and dark magic is a little different tho. Since it's basically a 'mix' from all the dragons powers, and dark magic is the same, just corrupted. Light/dark magic isn't present in everyone, but everyone that can use magic can learn it, that's why fairies can become dark fairies or witches become light witches.

And about dark magic: just cus it's originally created from the Ancestral witches, it doesn't automatically mean it has to be evil. Telepathy or telekinesis is a form of Psychic magic aka dark magic. Everyone uses it, and it's not evil. The Winx used dark magic in season 2, they are still fine. And Mirta uses dark magic as well, she's not evil.

In some cases, the concentration of dark or light magic is more present in others. Faragonda, Avalon, Darcy and Acheron are good examples. (Icy, Stormy and Valtor aren't on it cus they have elemental power and learned about dark magic. This doesn't mean that they are weaker or stronger, they still have dark magic, but it's just not as present as Darcy who can't use any elements. I also didn't list the Wizards of the black circle since I'm planning to change their powers)

Each dragon also has a 'sub' element, like secondary powers:

Fire has the power of healing and destruction

Sky has spiritual and cosmic powers

Earth has the power of Life and death

Water can control blood and Chi (not in a spiritual meaning, but to become one with your own body since we are made out of 80% water, hope that kinda makes sense)

When it comes to natural opposites

Sky and earth

Fire and water

Light and Darkness

The ancestral witches:

Are the origin of all Darkness (yes ik some say it's Darkar but he's weak af)

So the witches and the Sky wyvern created Darkar from a piece of the dragon flame that they stole

This makes Darkar the fire dragons second natural opposite along with the waterstars

Not only that: when the witches and the wyvern took a part of the flame, a small piece fell into darkness. As the witches fled from the dragons, they found that piece, creating Valtor.

Just like the light fairy, they looked out for others that can harness magic and reached them the ways of dark magic

The light fairy/first fairy Arcadia

The origin of all fairies

Thought other creatures how to use their powers

Probably the founder of Alfea

I would also like to mention that the legend of the four dragons has been forgotten over time. Most people only think that the Great dragon is the only one that existed, and the ones that do know the legend think it's just a myth.

I hope this all makes sense. Again: ask and I shall answer

[escapeaddict]

winx worldbuilding - ancestral witches

the witches were power hungry fae that achieved a half-life sort of immortality and as a result tried to claim the Dragon Flame to be restored fully (the trix are basically deranged fangirls) since their initial defeat all witches have a bad rep (Hagen was a member but regretted it when they came to target his love, Keeper of the Dragon Flame, and came to repent all his actions over the centuries of miserable immortality)

Darkar was a member of the ancestral witches who went rogue after their initial defeat, therefore was not imprisoned in Obsidian with the three who later attacked Domino, and he too seeks the Dragon Flame to restore himself to who he was before the immortality curse

Valtor is a homunculus created by the ancestral witches to aid them in their takeover, he was given life by the sacrifice of other souls (he craves the Dragon Flame to stabilize his piecemeal soul that relies on constant soul sacrifices to exist), and was banished to the Omega Dimension after the initial defeat of the witches by the company of light, surviving the stasis spell and the passage of time through the magical nature of his very being, absorbing the souls of other prisoners who succumbed to the harsh conditions

the company of light were the original defeaters of the five ancestral witches (six if you count Valtor), their moniker was later given to those leading the fight against the witch’s resurgence (new company members: Faragonda, Griffin, Hagen, Marian, Oritel, Saladin)