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#god i haven't said anything about this but i'm full on stewing on behalf of ry & matt but especially ryan#like jesus christ you can't be that dense and vengeful as a person to constantly drag someone's name through the mud who attempted#all in the guise of your own SA. like be a human with a brain fucking hell#that'd be like if one of ** ******'s* friends had SA'ed me and then if they had a friend who had attempted s*icide#and then i thought it was fine and normal to drag that person into it. which it's fucking not#anyways as someone who's gone through SA but also someone close to s*icide attempts if they're not fully related don't bring them up.#out of context you just look like an asshole who despite having gone through something themselves (not trying to diminish that)#who doesn't understand people also go through things too that are equally traumatic#anyways fuck off <3#this just has to do with l*x btw. this isn't even relation to the whole shitstorm that was/is le*ghton and eth*n and r*v.#anyways im also aware i posted something about causing drama so i might not leave this up but i needed to get this out of my head lmao
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Okay, so I've seen a lot of posts on the "should Morro have stayed dead or should he have been given a redemption arc" and all that and I just kind of wanted to share my thoughts on the topic. I don't think his canon ending is bad, in fact there's a lot I like about it. It's a tragedy and a very good one at that. The way it ends with him and Wu, and with the whole "you can only save those who wish to be saved" quote? That's poignant, that has narrative weight. I think to say that it's bad is to ignore a lot of what makes Morro a good character. He's a reflection of Wu as a teacher, his teachings, and he's a foil to Kai specifically. He shows us why Wu works better now, and why he teaches the way he does. A large component of what makes his story have depth isn't just that he died young and was traumatized it's that he continued a cycle of trauma on with Lloyd (and Cole, if you considered that he dies indirectly due to Morro's actions but that's another topic). He's a bad person, he did really bad things, that's part of who he is. But, I think it's a misstep to call him irredeemable. I think that misses the point of his character entirely actually, like severely. Morro isn't irredeemable, he shows that he's capable of growth in the very scene he dies in! That's part of the tragedy too! It's not a 'hot-take' to miss the point of a character because it's the cool fandom opinion of the month actually. I know people are frustrated at the fandom misogyny in how people talk about Morro vs. Harumi and I agree, it is frustrating, but y'all are just spreading around just plain bad takes and that's getting frustrating.
On the topic of missteps, as much as I do like it, I also think it was a misstep in how DOTD handled Morro. In general DOTD has some interesting ideas and concepts but is overall flat and under-cooked. Morro's part in it isn't excluded from that. DOTD brings him back, it shows that he is extremely capable of change and growth, and understanding (which is something you guys like to ignore too, actually). Then, it has him just leave again, die and I understand why but I think it's very genuinely sad in a way I don't think was intended, or well done. I think it backtracks on the narrative weight his conclusion in Possessed had. Possessions' ending for him is sad but it has depth and weight. DOTD just brings him back for fan service, and again, just has him die, and it's because he wants to. I understand they were going for a "at peace" kind of approach with him but it just falls flat in my opinion. If they were going to bring him back, and I know this is kind of a debated topic, I think they should've just kept him. And everyone who says that he wouldn't be capable of change for that is dead-wrong, the show proves it, and just because you don't like it doesn't make it bad. In terms of how it's handled in fanon, I think it's a mixed bag. Some people do it really well, faithful to his character but other times I think he just gets hit with the fanonization beam really hard. Sometimes you see his woobification of him based on the trauma and death he went through, and that erases what makes him and any sort of possible redemption or relationships with him interesting. I think people tend to miss the idea that a redemption is both not something a character has to 'deserve' (because redemption doesn't equal forgiveness) and also something a character has to work towards. The idea a redemption has to be deserved (as a moral concept not a narrative concept), instead of something worked towards by the character presents in people downplaying his actions and effects, but also in people acting like redemption is inherently reductive to his character because he's bad guys, he's a bad guy guys. Bad guys don't deserve redemption guys (/sarcastic). To be entirely real, I do think redemption can and does have a place in his writing. You can't look at how he acted at the end of possession and DOTD and tell me otherwise. Redemption in fiction at the end of the day is a narrative device and trope, and how a character is written informs their development. Additionally, I think some of you guys take his "you can only save those who want to be saved" way way too literally. That, too, is tragic and it's not because it's right. When characters speak, nine times out of ten, you're not supposed to baselessly accept and internalize what they say as correct and true. Was it true when Cole said he wasn't a ninja after dying in the same season? Was it true when Kai said he deserves to be the green ninja, just because he said it? Come on. Also, just, I think sometimes this fandom needs to accept different people find different things appealing and cathartic. It's okay to prefer a tragedy, but it's also okay to prefer the idea of him redeeming himself (because it takes work) and healing. There's this whole argument about whether or not saying he should've gotten a redemption arc (kind of a stupid question to begin with, in my opinion) but at the end of the day, it's already done. Also, both ends of the spectrum can have the most frustrating takes on him, and yeah I'm going to be annoyed and salty about it if you couldn't already tell. Anyways, there's no proper point to this because it's really just be ranting about several things I find really frustrating about how people handle this topic, so take it as you will. You can disagree, but I'm not saying his ending is bad nor that his tragedy is bad. In fact if you disagree I encourage that this fandom is way too prone to just parroting each others (mostly bigger blogs) opinions and not their own personal ones, so yeah.
#lego ninjago#ninjago#morro wu#morro ninjago#ninjago meta#ig?#blah blah#baby's.thoughts#anyways kinda nervous to post this too but i think i get to complain actually#long ass ramble rant post hitting send at. 11:00pm.
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First I must make it clear that I came for Yves, stayed for Cyprus, and found Mont to be my true love. And Blanche as my confusing friend in the midst.
As a new fan that has been searching through this all, my knowledge isn't the best but I'm trying.
Yves is so interesting but also expansive that I'm having a bit of a hard time grasping it all. He's your personification of infallible unconditional love that people can display right? The mother of mothers.
Yet I can't find myself wanting to be open or close to him even with the knowledge that he won't judge me or that he'll take care of me like I dream of. Almost like I'm expecting him to be this way because I'm already viewing him in that parental role since I can't find mysel liking him romantically.
In contrast the thought of Cyprus doing the chores and cooking like in the Yandere coworker series, it gives me a warm giddy feeling like most yanderes would for me. Because I view him in a more romantic light.
I think that says a lot about how he's written and portrayed subconsciously by you. Since I read about him hating children and pets making me decide not to pursue him romantically it made me view all the other works of him differently.
But what I also found jarring due to that view is the first chapter of [the best and worst of both worlds] where he's so flirty and fun while the reader is this nervous failure in response.
From what I've seen Yves wants to mother and while you did say he would change himself for the reader, he wouldn't upheaval himself.
So what does he do when the reader is someone who wants to mother someone else, much like that one ask about Yves being a monster in law against Monty.
Now that was Yves just not being with reader and reader already with Monty. So if [tbawobw] (I'm sorry lol) had a far more put together reader that didn't stalk or fawn over Yves, how would he go about getting their attention?
Another thing I want to question is about Yves with a guarded reader. Now we know that he's 'okay' (debatable) with a reader that just chooses to keep him as a friend. And that if reader would hate who Yves is as a person, he would manipulate the environment to get their views to broaden before approaching.
But Yves with a reader who is very friendly, warm and caring to everyone but will not get close to them. Texts are dry, conversations never steer into Reader's personal life, such questions get obviously ignored or clearly told 'I'm not comfortable with that' and reader keeps even family apart mentally from their inner thoughts and feelings.
Now Yves has all the info, he's Yves but it means nothing if he can't get the reader to actually open up to him even when they do meet. They could be near homeless and still say 'I'll be fine, [insert clear conversation chang].'
Sure he can gift them all the money and gifts, they'll accept and use it. Only telling him that they used it wisely and appreciated his kindness before keeping the convo minimal. The kind of reader that has no shame in telling Yves that they feel uncomfortable with his amount/type of questions and/or visits.
So let's say he drives them into a corner, not too traumatizing but enough so that reader is forced in his vicinity when they breakdown from stress. He comforts them, reassures them, helps them and what happens?
The exact same thing. And if he does ask why they won't let him of all people close even when he is the first person that reader has broke down in front of, the response he gets is a 'I have never seen you become as unstable as I was in front of you. That dynamic felt unfair and uneven so I'd rather us return to our old one where we both were equals without faults.' and they just end it saying they understand if Yves doesn't want to be friends anymore.
What does he do then? He won't break down, he promised himself after all he's been through. So faking a breakdown won't work but just telling false information doesn't work either. Anymore traumatizing could be permanent too.
Yves could just use his drugs and subtle mind control thing that I'm still not really sure how it works, to nudge reader to accept his kindness. But we've seen it with Yandere Brother before, where some people are stubborn enough to require direct methods. Reader could have that same mental fortitude.
AND we all know this situation would be killing Yves, as he loves to coddle and mother reader. Would sending anyone ahead of himself before they meet even work? Only Yves would have the means necessary to make reader break down and someone else comforting them, someone who does break down in front of reader too making it 'equal' earning Reader's trust and closeness would only backfire.
Because now Reader would have someone to turn to for their emotional needs. Even if Yves killed that person off, Reader would just grow even colder to everyone outside of themself.
If he went the drugging then it goes back to reader continuously only giving in when having breakdowns/being drugged. Both which are harmful long term. And mainly that reader isn't truly turning to Yves out of their own violation but out of habit. It becomes emotionless, almost like a chore. They find no real comfort in Yves fixing their problem or caring for them or being with them. The true reader is even more guarded to him.
I feel like this dynamic would be very depressing for him, this situation in whole would be triggering Yves motherly instincts on full throttle while not letting him do as he wishes to help.
But yeah I only know so much so if there's another ask that goes on this road just link it for me please. If not, I would love to hear your take on how Yves would handle it.
Shifting to another point of Yves, lets rewind to how Yves actually feels not being readers partner. We know he won't date them if they can't handle not having sex or not being faithful.
He becomes the monster in law but there's 3 specific post that I really want to focus on. 1 - how Yves reacts to a respectful reader that ends the relationship 2nd date due to the sex. 2 - how he reacts to Monty being the husband. 3 - a post about how being just the friend is killing Yves in the inside. [the one comparing him to Pearl from SU]
So going for 1, in the post Yves is all 'okay' and smiles and just wants to be close with reader. And it's very clear that reader would have dated Yves if not for the sex. Yves vets all the possible partners for the future and only allows the one that fits his standards to stay.
But then it all comes crashing down when we get to 2.
This scenario doesn't touch on how the timing between Reader meeting Yves and Monty. It seems to imply that the whole sex thing wasn't a factor.
As previously stated, he feels that Monty is bad and absolutely nothing good but Yves pushes himself to get along somewhat with Monty to make reader happy. Monty is a yandere and honestly? A big variable at first since Monty's obsession with reader is pure chance.
So if reader is more put together then [tbawobw] leading to a more subby and controllable Monty making them much more compatible without Yves romantically in the mix. Reader could get attached and start dating Monty before Yves can gather enough info against Monty that ultimately doesn't matter because all Monty cares about is reader.
(and my computer is dying, I should speed this up)
Now in the 2 post, Yves has this breakdown about why reader didn't want to be with Yves in all his perfection and instead went with Monty who is his opposite. He says that they could have chosen someone better.
But what exactly does that mean for Yves?
Now on the surface it's just that Yves really wants reader to have the best possible and be well taken care of since Yves can't be their partner due to sex. But that isn't really how he feels. If reader chose a 'good husband' Yves could at least pretend like it doesn't bother him much.
But he just can't with Mont, not with the differences between them. Yves glaring hatred for not being readers husband, for having it taken from him in general is made so obvious and that. That right there is what's pushing him to breaking down in the form that he hates.
Post 3 confirms it all. But it doesn't bring up the topic of sex. Something that he already has so much trauma with. It's hard not to bring up some self loathing even though Yves (rightfully) wouldn't change his boundaries.
So in the worst case scenario, a guarded reader that I described above, rejects Yves respectfully due to the sexual incompatibility, proceeds to open up naturally to MONT and marry him keeping Yves always as a friend at best.
Just how deep in hell is his life? Would something like this expose new actions from Yves? I, uh, do have one more thing about Yves but I think I should just send it like this. It's long enough.
W anon
holy shit W anon u put the W in win bro
a WHOLE ASS THESIS omg thank u so much i love analyses holy crap like a whole well structured and well written essay on Yves's character and his complex feelings of being cucked
ultimately he wants you to be happy, but technically faking breakdowns can work if he does it convincingly enough. His breakdowns will never be about his TRUE past traumas. He thinks you're too delicate and innocent to handle that without accidentally traumatizing yourself too. HOWEVER, he may give you very ,very watered down concepts of what had happened to him- or downright fake events.
He would stage slips of sanities strategically and breakdowns too to coax you out of that shell. But not too much to raise suspicion out of you. Just enough to manipulate you into thinking he can be anything less than perfect. Remember, he's a terrific actor. Anything vulnerable about Yves is probably not real and is probably a highly calculated move
but yes, let's say you rolled a nat 20 on perception checks every time and you caught his bullshit, and he KNOWS that you will catch onto it, AND you fell in love with Monty because he's not fancy pants rich mcgee.... its spirituality and religion time. He will be literally doing black magic rituals just to keep himself in check, he knows that it probably won't help, but this is just for him to not fall into the abyss of despair and insanity, just to retain his sense of self in a reality that loves to erode it exponentially.
so basically, rule of thumb for Yves: if it's anything that he cannot solve without either destroying his boundaries or destroying your happiness, he's drawing those fucking sigils on his attic floor with his blood, lighting candles n shit (just like when you want to die while suffering from dementia, but he keeps you alive because he's selfish)
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Movie 25: Bride of Halloween time!
And it's already forcing the romance >.> It is funny that Ran always shuts down Sonoko's comments about Shinichi crushing on her as Conan. That's her little brother, she does not entertain that bullshit.
...Did they not bother telling the guests that this was a fake wedding?
Poor Sato, she looked absolutely traumatized over even the thought of Takagi dying on her.
Sato looks very beautiful in her wedding dress, though. I hope we do see the day Takagi and Sato get married, out of all the couples, they are ones I would love to see.
Something I've noticed in the introductions: they never introduce Ran as Shinichi's girlfriend, just his childhood friend, even though they've been together for a while in the manga and anime now. I guess even those who do the introductions don't want to say they're together :p
It's so nice of Shinichi to imagine Ran in her wedding to Sera :p Thank you for telling us he did, Ai.
She's so pretty-
AND SHE JUST GOT BLOWN UP.
KOGORO T-T He was actually being a good father for a change too... He didn't even think when it came to protecting Ai from danger.
They're so scared for him T-T
I like when the police can be competent, especially Sato as we know that Gosho doesn't respect his female characters as much as they deserve so it's nice when writers do give it to them.
I forgot that Matsuda texted his "friend" even after his death. That's very gay, gay, homosexual, gay of him. Sounds like he couldn't let him go.
Fewer and fewer people came because they're all dead. Amuro is the only one of his friends left.
...Did the movies forget that Takagi and Sato are already dating? And that they're sleeping together, both sexually and non-sexually? This seems like drama for the sake of drama.
Ran is not as worried for Kogoro as she would usually be? They didn't get the best writers for this movie, did they. They got a great team to animate though because it looks really good.
Takagi understands Sato so well T-T Well, at least the writing isn't all bad.
I have to wonder how these agents feel, being told to take a child to their boss and they have no clue why. They must suspect that their is something wrong with this child, especially if he's being treated like an equal by their boss.
And it doesn't get solved by you but rather by a know-it-all boy who can't keep his nose out of investigations even if it'll cost him his life.
Was that Amuro's car that just got destroyed? Ouch.
Well at least Date put it to good use.
And of course Scotch asked about his boyfriend. He also came to save his life.
It's not really that tense when I know he doesn't die here, but later.
They tried to make a run for it so they didn't have to do errands for others XD
Ai first had to go through it and now Shinichi almost died T-T They're not having a good time this movie, are they.
Ran looks very pretty in this outfit she's wearing. Very mature but not overly so.
Okay but Takagi looks good with Matsuda's haircut. However, I do like how normal he usually looks so I don't want him to change his normal haircut, just appreciating our great man Takagi.
No one should question Shinichi's presense anymore. Even if he was invited, he would be find his way inside a confidential meeting.
Shinichi just clicked his fingers... to tell everyone that they have a hint for the case. He's so overly dramatic, he gets it from his mother. The only thing he taes after his father is his intelligence and colouring, he gets everything else from his mother.
Lol I wonder if Shinichi was trying to get info from Amuro about his dead boyfriend.
She is so angry. You know she's also angry at herself for going alone with this plan and putting Takagi in danger. But damn she also looks incredibly hot.
Considering how he's panicking Takagi is actually a pretty good actor.
Takagi: I am in WAY over my head.
I really, really love the art direction for this movie. They're bringing out the unique style of detective conan to great lengths.
...Those were supposed to be burns?
They looks like tattoos, not burns. If you're going to do scars, commit to it. Give her proper scars.
OH THEY CAN DO SCARS.
Shinichi has gone into his mind map again. It's not as fun when Kaito isn't there helping him along.
Can't have a movie where Shinichi isn't lying to Ran's face!
Awww, Ai put on a hat for the halloween spirit.
Shinichi's latest genius idea: fake being kidnapped in order to get to the culprit.
Oof, poor guy was completely fooled by his future "wife". He's going to struggle to trust again.
Amuro has no chill. He just dislocated that woman's arm.
I love when he makes this face after he saves people. It's his "well that was fucking close," face which makes it look like he isn't taking what he did all that seriously.
I vote for letting the bitch die but I know Shinchi isn't stopping her for the culprits sake, but rather to save the heart of the woman who had lost too much.
This is the best side of Shinichi.
And Agasa once again saves the day.
I hope Ran gets to help with keeping the football in place. She is there after all.
CAN WE NOT DO THE RAN THING. IT'S SO GODDAMN CRINGY.
Sick shot. He's taking after his husband with the moon shots.
So Matsuda and Shinichi used the same method to stop the bomb and they did so because of Matsuda's dead boyfriend.
One of the only couples I cheer for when they kiss XD
I'm guessing the post credit scene is another practise. Yeah.
THEY BROUGHT TAKAGI WITHOUT HIM KNOWING. OKAY THAT'S FUNNY.
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Hi. What do you think about Lisa and Michael's marriage? I mean... they had a complex relationship. Do you think he made mistakes in some of his actions? Do you think both were immature?
The best way to describe Michael Jackson is "Surprisingly well-adjusted for someone who was abused his entire life" and the best way to describe Lisa is "Surprisingly well-adjusted for someone who was literally being exploited in a cult."
I love Michael with all my heart, but he would disappear for weeks after fights with his wife, and told her, to her face, that if she didn't give him children, he was gonna get someone else (who was supposedly just a friend) pregnant, and then he did and went on to marry her. "Made mistakes" is quite the understatement. This is on the level of "Do you WANT to make this woman hate you?"
Not to mention the simple fact that being married to someone who has an addiction is quite the emotional turmoil - especially when they're addicted to the same thing that killed one of your parents and full on told you they feared they'd die the same way. It really isn't hard to understand why Lisa Marie asked for a divorce, and then also gave up on the "affair" they had during his second marriage (well, """"marriage"""" if we're going to be honest here).
But that's not to say Lisa was perfect. She wasn't. She full on said "He had a sad childhood, but who didn't?" to kind of dismiss the whole Peter Pan thing he had of compensating for the time of his life - which is an INSANE thing to say. There's "My childhood wasn't that fun" and there's being a survivor of abuse.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Lisa was some heartless monster (if anything, to me that sounds more like her being very much in denial about how traumatic her own childhood was and not liking that Michael was indirectly/accidentally reminding her "No, what happened to you wasn't normal, you need help too") but obviously it'd hurt to open up about something like that and have your own wife act like you're being dramatic. Dude was the definition of "Just 'cause you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not out to get you" after all, of course he would take that to heart.
Lisa also full on admited that, looking back, she had not truly appreciated how much Michael had genuinely tried to make things work for a long time. That it truly had been a HUGE step in the right direction for someone as traumatized him to open up to her the way he did, to share his life with someone, to let everyone see him in love. She full on said that it took him dying for her to finally understand that he loved her.
I think Lisa also set herself up for disappointment to some extent.
She married the man that called himself Peter Pan and lived in Neverland, then was suprised that he was goofing off during interviews instead of trying to act more "adult" to prove their marriage was real. She didn't want her marriage to be turned into a spectacle, yet her husband was literally Michael Jackson (and he had just been accused of abusing little boys, OF COURSE he'd be reminding everyone that he was very much a straight man). She literally said in an interview that she thought she could save him - she looked at that trainwreck of a life that left this man badly damaged, emotionally stunted, paranoid and depressed, then went "I can fix him!" when she was equally messed up. Just terrible idea after terrible idea.
They both went through A LOT of tragedy from a very young age, and it messed them up. On good days, that made them a great match because they could relate to, and find comfort in, each other. But on the bad days? It was a VERY toxic relationship - and not because one or both of them were terrible people, but because, to put it bluntly, it's hard to have a normal, healthy relationship when you never experienced it, or even seen it, your whole life. Of course they didn't know how to make it work.
Add in the fact that a lot of people, including Lisa's mother, seemed to be actively rooting for them to fail, and openly questioning if their marriage was even real, and it becomes a truly unbearable situation. Lisa gets a lot of shit from some MJ fans for being the one who ended things (twice), but in all honesty, sooner or later Michael would have said "enough is enough" too.
And it really is a shame, because considering how genuinely happy they seemed through a lot of their marriage, how they showed support to each other through hard times after spliting up, how they couldn't keep their hands off each other for five freaking years after their divorce, how Michael's nephew was defending Lisa from slanders in public because he had only ever heard his uncle say good things about her, and how much Lisa was grieving after Michael's death, it's clear that they loved each other A LOT.
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that pudding card is GORGEOUS i love her so much she doesn't deserve to be a part of op discourse leave my girl alone she just needs love
Pudding is such a complex character! I love her so so much! She really means the world to me. Honestly, her whole story is completely relatable and the fact that it's basically used to parallel Sanji's doesn't help. It just makes everything hurt more. I could talk about her for hours and how misinterpreted her character is due to fandom discourse and the recent wave of "puritanism" within the internet.
I'm not gonna get too into fandom discourse because I hate it and I already have horrible experiences about it in this fandom (with Lawlu, specifically), but... I find it stupid. Her character has so many layers. She's just as complex and traumatized as Sanji. That's... That's quite the whole point? She made mistakes and has mixed feelings and different types of personalities due to her past and trauma responses. She made mistakes. Sanji made mistakes too. The only damn reason why people don't forgive her is because "she hurt our little meow meow <//3 She's so evil!!! Evil woman!!!" as if they wouldn't forgive her character right away if she were a MAN. Like. Misogyny who??
Anyway, I think it's pretty obvious people don't like Pudding because of obvious misogyny and overprotection of Sanji. Which is understandable because I'm also very intense when it comes to him, but damn... He would not like it if he knew y'all hate her for her mistakes.
Also, people only talk about her to say "she's a great character but her age gap with Sanj-" why does it always have to be about Sanji? Let the girl be her own character. Have you hear of the Bechdel test? No? Perhaps you could try it? Her character is obviously created for Sanji, but she's so much more! Let her escape!!! From the hands of patriarchy and men!! That being said, the whole discourse about their age gap is... Just... So fucking stupid.
Don't go cancelling me right away. I'm just saying that when it comes to stuff like age Oda doesn't seem to be very... Consistent? He's made mistakes before. And the Charlottes are a very huge family. I'm sure not even Oda knows the order of these children, lmfao. I think he would only say shit like "Katakuri is one of the oldest and Pudding is one of the youngest idk. Just made her one of the youngest to match Sanji's backstory of being one of the youngest". But leaving that aside-- Maturity never equals age in a show that's... About pirates... Where everyone has different experiences with different social surroundings... It's just like the Lawlu discourse, damn. You have to know the characters before saying crazy stuff like "Law would groom Luffy" because HOW??? HOW WOULD HE DO THAT??? That's basically impossible. And you need to think about the characters before assuming things. And Sanji and Pudding? Leaving aside the age difference, Pudding has more power over Sanji and that's noticeable. Does that even matter tho? They understand each other on the same level after all in the end. Tbh I couldn't tell about the age difference. I thought they were the same age ngl. Only found out bc I saw the discourse going on and my first reaction was "This is fucking dumb". Tbh their relationship is one of the healthiest I've ever seen for Sanji. We see him being himself for once without being extremely creepy. The whole arc about him losing himself is about a girl loving him for who he truly is. And the whole arc about a girl being judged for being different is about a boy loving her for who she truly is. It's so beautiful!!!
Anyway. Not the point. The thing is that people hate Pudding for... Absolutely nothing? Not knowing how to read complex characters? I still don't get it. Perhaps it's just that my mommy issues are too harsh and I can see through her but damn.
Ana also the whole thing about erasing Sanji's memories? People hate her for that and calling her... Selfish??? Did you not... Watch the scene... Of her crying because she lost the only person she has ever truly loved. But whatever. Call her selfish.
#ngl to you besties i'm a bit drunk if this doesn't make sense it's bc of that#BUT!!! I WILL ALWAYS DEFEND PUDDING!!!#i love her SO damn much#also 16/21 is concerning irl yeah but..... it's an anime... in which ages aren't really consistent and maturity varies a lot...#i've made out with people that were way older than me c'mon grow up touch some grass these are fictional characters#also don't reduce one of the few well-written fem characters we have to a ship??#one piece#charlotte pudding
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Bat!Reader Childhood HCs
I'm posting random drafts. incomplete. And so. English with translator. I suppect this maybe even double posted. Uhm. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Note: English is not my language, so I hope you will be understanding of any flaws you find.
🦇Look. You wanted the robins (you already called them all robins even if there was more bats than birds) to become such. You wanted Dick, Tim and Duke with their parents alive and well. To Jason, Stephanie and Harper with the best family circumstances they could muster. Barbara, Luke, Carrie being carefree in their lives, Cassandra adopted in a happy place, maybe with Steph who was not her best friend in the comics for nothing. You wish you could have helped Kate (you were working on Helena and Azrael but were working in his legal name in this moment). Mother of God, you wanted to kill Batman for what it cost you to track down all these people, and even so you know you were missing people but you did pretty well and hell, you were working on it as you could.
Spoilers: Duke, Carrie, Harper, Helena, Azrael (Jean Paul & Michael), Luke Fox, and his predecessor Zavimbe. Batwoman's partner, all "saved" (because I don't know them well enough to write about them and part because the Joker died, the rage is over). Most of them now works or gonna work for WE or the GCPD (it's getting competent) anyway.
🦇But. You walked through your home, looking at empty rooms and fantasized about which one would be filling with each batfam. With how they would be in the mornings, growling, sticking their heads out or snorting at each other.
🦇 Having managed to get Alfred, your father in many ways, to move to a room closer to yours; (and you didn't know the peace of mind that gave you until he did it) a part of you longed for more.
🦇As Y/N Wayne you have a special relationship with Oswald since in your childhood circle he was the one who least infantilized you and you could go with him to do silly things and perhaps some "little savagery"
🦇This is important because with your onset of poison resistance your overall status and appearance as a child was always, regardless of your build, "fragile" looking, and most people tended to overprotect you. Someone from the Gotham paper even turned "Wayne's Treasure" into "Wayne's Gem" into "Wayne's Diamond" (more accurate than they think, hard, but brittle).
🦇Even Roman and Thomas were careful not to go too far in their abuse so people wouldn't say anything to them, which is what started the “they do that to you because they like you"- crap. It also doesn't help that you cousin (who was in her own traumatic moment) was one punch away from letting both of their noses loose. Like, minefield.
🦇Bats met Harvey Dent in high school. And Bats it's very surprised how easy it's to surround oneself with vips (villains-in-progress) in their city. In this AU, Harvey met "the gang" at Gotham Academy for a scholarship since he comes from a middle-class background here. So, to him find the golden child of Gotham being kind and humble and always treating him as an equal and taking his ideas into account. That touches the ego of any adolescent.
🦇Not that Bats didn't know a lot of other people, but Harvey was the only one who put up with the bullshit and bullying of Bats "friends" (putting him further on the road to district attorney ironically). Bats is sure they recognized the names of some Batman's love interests, or at least one female journalist, but they couldn't get close enough to find out.
🦇Their -Harvey's- friendship quickly gelled. Both idealists with similar political positions and true desire to do good for Gotham. A breath of fresh air for Bats, surrounded by two cynicals and a girl in a conflicting phase. Despite the fate that hung at the end of the Dent line Bats couldn't help but think how good it would be to have someone like Dent on their side, especially with the owls swarming and all the normal villains that would have to be put forever behind bars first, if they wanted to even think about the ones in colored costumes.
🦇Anyway, shortly after that year/s there was a disconnect with the world as Bats was abducted by the League of Assassins and then trained for 2 years until they was 18 when they ran away, comes back to Gotham and became Bats (and almost at the same time the tragedy of the circus happened but you're still catching up and you don't know that)
🦇I just realized, mathematically, I've made Dick a terrifying murderous prodigy. Fear, enemies of the Court, now the rhyme is legitimately scary.
🦇Continuing with LoA, Reader, you were there for two years and apart from apparently they trying getting you married and being a worthy possible successor, you left –run away- without having a clue what those people wanted with you. Problem. that's exactly what they wanted, the same thing they wanted in another world with Batman, you weren't going to get anything else no matter how much you snoop, but you refused to assimilate that idea, because “why me?” (If you wanna know, among others, they had noticed your private training and how you had been moving to "take Gotham" and other key points on the planet, as if it were your chessboard)
🦇At that time you really didn't know whether to laugh or cry. Or whether to be deeply indignant. This SURE didn't happen to Batman. Wasn't he volunteer to train in the League? Or after 18 anyway? You were already mixing things by stress. Or maybe were the multiverses in your head. What the hell were they doing kidnapping you to train you and shit about weddings? Okay, a couple thing happened to Bruce, but, You were a teenager. What was the word, grooming? Didn't these people have better things to do, like take over the world? to kill people? Also, what's the point of wanting a successor, IF YOU'RE FUCKING IMMORTAL, let's explain.
🦇And then. After you come back, you, Reader, have a lot of people to catch up with and a lot, LOT of explaining to do. And the damn entry into high society and active involvement in Wayne business... But hey, no one appreciates that you escaped from a cult group of super assassins ninjas who btw were still discussing who will you marry when you left. In order not to let women inherit, they are very progressive in everything else.
🦇 At least Alfred believes you. At least you can tell him the truth. On the other hand, it's the truth, imagine if he didn't believe you, having spent two years with a family that has been grooming you at the same time that training you to kill in 50 forms with a spoon. And luckily the batcave was almost set up, you only needed the suit and put together a coherent story of your two years of disappearance (because there is no way you will go through the high school for the third time, being that the League had homeschooled you those years, again). Oh, but some villains were teachers in college. And maybe that could delay your entry into the world of work. Maybe that was worth the try?
🦇The worst is that. Two years and your careful planning went almost all to the fret. Your straps, broken. Dent, thank God, is an attorney and there is nothing unusual about him. But the other two according to the intel you're starting to gather go already for Hush and Black Mask and have the underworld criminal city terrified, Oswald has some dirty things going, you know nothing about Kate but your guess is in the Military Academy, you will inquire, all doctors of their specialties are loaded in their guns (as who says) and, dammit two years and you weren't even in vacations! not fair!
🦇 Aggg, all hurry up and running now. Luckily you had years of planning, but you were afraid of making a mistake. And as soon as you got dressed, the clown would appear because that’s how Murphy works. Some things had been sped up, some had changed, you should start tracking all the robins for their safety...
🦇And you would throw some money and ideas at the Justice League and have them manage without you. They had a forensic and a demigoddess of war and truth, by all deities, they would manage.
Moar spoilers: Villains who did not pass the look of Bats or have been permanently "secured" in Gotham before do actual -big- damage: Falcone, Maroni, Zucco, Professor Pyg, Man-Bat (Ally, it never get to go through that crap), Jeremiah Arkham (diagnosed by out burn before it out of hands), King Tut (who the hell is this??), Clayface, Calendar Man, Condiment King, Deacon Blackfire, Dollmaker, Flamingo, James Gordon Jr., Jane Doe, King Snake (Bane did this), Prometheus (Green arrow doing), Sewer King (no kids in Jason watch), Solomon Grundy. And not just kill anyone who recreates in the pain of others.
🦇: Damn it, I'm one (1) Bat. I'm. NOT. Batman.
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I don't understand those who say that Mal is Alina's great love...
People... in a few months she imagined herself building a future with the Darkling / Alexander. If wrong was supposedly his great unwavering love, it wouldn't have crossed his mind after just a few months. She says so. She literally says that she and Alexander could have been together, had it all, and been equals. It doesn't sound like a band-aid relationship at all to just forget about Mal. She was truly moved on and ready to build a life with another man. She also expresses that Alexander was the first to show / prove to her that she was made for more.
Mal and Alina sound like family, then growing up, Alina developed a crush on him. After that, there was Alexander, the betrayal, and then it went back to Mal. There, that sounds like a bandage relationship.
Even more with the fact that she brings up her romantic love for Mal for the first time in front of Alexander, as if to make him jealous. Then afterwards, she literally sinks into this delirium that Mal is her great love.
To me, this is clearly the equivalent of a band-aid relationship to move on from Alexander. She refuses the idea that she might have wanted to share her life with him.
Mal and Alina, in the show may be kind of a cute romantic relationship, but to say that Mal is his great love / true love, while Alexander is literally coded as his soulmate... And who he's said to be with unambiguously she wanted a future with him... No, sorry, I don't buy into that idea.
" I will never feel such love again " I think Alina said something like that to Mal in episode 6... The joke. Girl, you're just in denial at this point.
There's also this insinuating that this true north between them, this unshakeable sense of family that they had been maybe just because Mal was the fucking firebird !? Mal literally told Alina that he no longer felt that " true north " between them ?!
Not to mention the fact that Alina also seems disturbed by Nikolai at the end of the season. You can see it from the way she looked at him when he talked about kissing. It wasn't just the look of someone general. Again, if Mal was supposedly her one big love / true love... I find that she allows herself to almost develop a new crush very quickly.
Brief. All that to say that it makes me laugh when people say that Mal is Alina's great love / true love, with all those things to consider.
Also, I don't understand those who argue that Mal is the same from the book to the series, when he's a completely different character ! I want to hit the one from the book and give a hug to the one from the series. On the other hand, in both cases he remains the least interesting character. But at least the actor has a presence and charisma.
There is a real interest that the Darklina story is not finished and continues in the series. I want at least one more kiss and a touching conclusion between them. It's not that hard to give anyway.
I mean when its comes to shipping etc everything is subjective and everyone is attracted to different things, that being said I too don't really understand or agree with this take that M*l is her great love. For me I see M*lina's relationship as a combination of trauma bonding and the effects of the amplifier. Their relationship actually reminds me alot of katniss and gale in hunger games where they both share this traumatic experience, their dads both dying in a cave in at the mine, and then become co-dependent on each other in order to survive, they need each other to survive, its very easy when going through something like that to mistake it for love, after winning the games and no longer needing gale to survive Katniss begins to realise that other than that trauma bonding them they didn't really have a whole lot in common, that they didn't really fit together and without that trauma they likely never even would have been friends let alone lovers. I think it is similar with M*l and Alina it was them both being orphans that bonded them, both being outcasts at the orphanage, they needed each other to survive, then there is the added effect of the amplifier which would have made them feel even more bonded and again I think it would be easy to think that you are in love. But the question to ask is, take away that need for survival, take away the amplifier and what it left? I think that was what the show was asking to when they had M*l admit that he didn't feel that true north feeling anymore and wonder if the only reason they 'fell in love' was because of the amplifier.
Also with Alina's 'I'm never going to feel a love like this again' line, I do think alot of this is saying things in the moment that don't always stand up to the test of time. The truth is Alina is immortal and M*l is not, so right now she may believe that but there is no telling if she would gone on after M*l's death and fall in love again. I mean like you pointed out a few months after being separated from M*l in season 1 and she was planning a future with Aleksander. It is obvious that she has some attraction to Nikolai though how deep that runs we'll have to see in season 3. So whilst I'm sure in that moment Alina believed that was the case, and whilst I'm sure some part of M*l will stay with her, I don't think it is necessarily true. I am sure at the time Aleks believed he wouldn't love another the same way he loved Luda but then he lost her, time went on and he eventually fell for others including Alina. But Alina is a young immortal and hasn't quite grasped this possibility, as Aleks said right now she is living in a single moment and in this moment she has convinced herself that she couldn't ever feel this way again.
I do think it is interesting that the first time Alina uses love in relation to M*l is when she is with Aleks and I do think she was trying to make him jealous. I think alot of her draw to m*l this season was because, as you said, she is trying to forget Aleks. Before she met Aleks, M*l was the one that she had a crush on and the one she planned a future with, even if that future wasn't really one that she was thrilled at the prospect of, she doesn't like farms after all. It makes sense that when things fall apart with Aleks that she would go back to what she knows, what is safe. I think her trying really hard to believe she has a future with M*l is part of that defence mechanism she's constructed around herself.
I also agree with you that I don't get when people say that book and show m*l are the same, they are very clearly not, from book to screen M*l's character got the biggest change.
And I agree with you that when it comes to darklina I want at least one more kiss and some kind of emotional conclusion to their story, whatever that conclusion may be, I want it to be clear that these two characters do have love and care for each other.
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Its 4:09AM and I'm gonna gush about my faves here for probably maybe the first time ever bc I have thoughts and want to put them somewhere.
There's a certain feeling I have about characters who are strong and badass as all hell, who could legit raze the world without batting an eyelash, who are also very traumatized and terrified by the most mundane things. Like it's a thing that's just very important to me. And right now yes I am going to talk about Dabi.
Dabi, who survived being burned nearly to a crisp, Dabi who's Quirk is literally killing him but he acts like it doesn't even hurt to use it. Dabi, who is by no means meek or submissive, ready to be an asshole at any given moment.
Dabi, who's played with fire his whole life, and has definitely been burned many times. Both literally and figuratively.
He looks like someone who isn't afraid of anything. Someone who fears nothing and cares little.
But we know he cared so much it drove him insane. So imagine that despite how battle-hardened he is, how rough and abrasive he is, Dabi is still terrified by the smallest, strangest things.
He flinches when items are set down too hard, when dishes are thrown around the sink. When doors are slammed and when people walk with heavy footsteps.
He flinches when people reach for him, especially if that person is bigger and taller than him. He feels a ridiculous amount of rage when someone tries to "parent" him or give him advice - He feels innately talked down to when people try and it lights a fire inside him. He can't make eye contact sometimes, depending on the person, but sometimes he stares at people like they're liable to pounce on him.
He jumps at sudden sounds, at people suddenly arriving when he wasn't aware of them, like he's been caught doing something he shouldn't, even when he's doing nothing. He always compulsively looks out windows, like he expects a threat to roll up any moment.
Dabi is hardened by everything he's been through, but it's also left him incredibly fucked up and weak, and it's something that can only be noticed by those who share time and space with him. Only the League notices that Dabi's hands start trembling when someone is doing the dishes too aggressively. Only they notice the way Dabi flinches away from casual touch. Only they see the flash of anger in his eyes when someone talks sternly to him.
None of them say anything either. Because they understand. They're all fucked up. They all know someone hurt Dabi so badly it may never heal. Being traumatized makes you equally strong and weak, and they all get it.
#This is something that just. Hit my mind while I was at working wishing I wasn't and so I needed to. Put it somewhere#And I wanna start Being Here a little more and posting stuff so#Here ya go some Dabi headcanon stuff I guess#A lotta my stuff is League-focused these days bc I deeply related to fucked up villains so#Y'all coming with me for the ride yep#Do I have an MHA tag yet??? I don't think I do???#I'll come back and tag this later I guess
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i've been trying to articulate why exactly i'm not comfortable conversing with/following minors online, and i think it boils down to:
the kind of things you talk to your friends about doesn't really change with age. when you turn 18, you don't suddenly start talking about Adult Things any more than you would have as a kid. it's the same. your interests might change with age and your priorities in life might reshuffle as you get more responsibilities, but the conversations you have with your friends don't really look any different.
and when you're a young adult, and you're not used to being a Real Adult, you don't get the "wow what a youngster! look at that young baby!" response when you see teenagers going about their day. you don't feel much different at 21 than you do when you're 16. you have to consciously remind yourself that you're not just like them anymore, that at some point in the last few years, you gained Actual Societal Power over the people you're used to seeing as your equals.
it takes a conscious mental effort to remain aware of and careful with that power imbalance. when i was a teenager i could talk to other teenagers about my problems, my love life, school/studies - because we were equals. and suddenly we're not equals anymore and i have to pass everything i say through another filter.
friendship to me is about equality. you listen to each other, help each other out, provide support - as well as obviously hanging out and having fun and joking around. but i don't want emotional support from a teenager. i don't want to complain about my job and my family to a teenager. doing so has the potential to cause real harm; doing emotional labour for someone who you aren't on equal footing with can be traumatic (i know from personal experience). and let's be real, most of the jokes i make with my friends, i also would not want to make around a teenager. i'm just not capable of having a fulfilling friendship with a kid because being a Safe Adult To Be Around requires that i zip my mouth and not talk to them anything like how i talk to my friends.
i can't be friends with a kid, and i don't want to parent/mentor anyone, and i'm much more inclined to spend my social energy on talking to people my age than i am on figuring out how to appropriately reply to some teenager's DM. it's mentally draining at best, and at worst it has the capacity to do measurable damage or get someone in trouble.
additionally, i'm queer + trans + most commonly read as a man, which means that right-wingers already think i'm a groomer. i'm also awkward and autistic and i don't know how to gracefully tell people that i'm not comfortable talking to them without my boundaries coming across as optional. the only way i can effectively enforce my boundaries is to block/softblock/ghost the other person and move on.
i get that it's hurtful when you're a teen and it feels like no adults other than your teachers and family care to talk to you - it's like everyone thinks you're too immature for them. i felt the same frustration when i was a kid and i didn't understand why my age was such a huge issue to the adults i tried to speak to online. but it's really not about you and it's not personal; it's that adults can't relax around you because they have to be in Responsible Mode whenever a kid is nearby.
that's not to say that kids and adults shouldn't share spaces - that's kind of how being in public works, after all. if you're in a communal space, like a park or out on the street, we absolutely *should* be in Responsible Mode because children have as much right to be there as we do. but we also deserve a safe, comfortable, private place where we can unwind and be ourselves and control who we interact with.
i understand that social media isn't completely private, and minors can stumble upon anything i post online. but with features like blocking and muting, i do have some control over who is allowed in my online social circle, and i can flag/censor content so that kids will only see it if they first acknowledge i didn't put it there for them. the internet is not a public place in the same way that the local park is - i can't boot you across the lawn if you approach me in-person, but i can block you if you interact with something nsfw on my blog. i can make my profile an adults-only space and if a kid wanders in then i have the power to remove them to retain my comfort and privacy.
idk. this was a long post. i hope it makes sense. i remember feeling very sad and angry as a kid because it felt like adults never wanted me around and i didn't get why, and i took personal offense to it. i hope if any minor does read this, it helps them to understand. it can be a very stressful argument to have because it's so easily misinterpreted. and i haven't seen very many adults try to explain the reasons why in full detail.
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Original 13 successors
There were 13 people enrolled in the start of the L program. The 13 were picked for their intelligence but also due to knowing L personally from the time he spent as a regular orphan. These are my HCs for them.
A:
His real name is Alejandro Alexander Anderson-Armenta. He's from England but was raised mostly by his mother who was from Spain. His father, despite loving him and his three siblings very much, couldn't be around often due to his job as a sailor. This job would eventually kill him after his ship sank. A's mother died a few months later falling from her lighthouse during a storm. After they were orphaned they A and his siblings were adopted by a kind stranger who actually was a mobster looking to sell them into human trafficing but later decided to keep them after seeing how smart A was. After living with him for a year, A realized he was being played and sook vengeance and the events that followed traumatized him for life. Afterwards he was taken to Wammys House because any kid who could take down a mafia syndicate in one night deserves to be there. His three siblings got to come too. A as a person is cunning yet fair. He prides himself on his strict moral code which includes don't kill people and don't lie. A is incredibly manipulative, usually getting whatever he wants through his whit and charm plus his overall good attitude. The things he wants are simple, A is very hedonistic and power hungry. He wants drugs, money, sex, fancy items, and most importantly power over others. He loves being first place. He loves being the first number one. He is neutral towards detective work but loves the benefits he reaps from it. But of course A was still deeply unwell. Smart and successful yes but truthfully he knew he'd never get to settle down with his success. A was thinking long term, he liked drinking and sleeping around and wasting all his money on new fancy jewelry but when he was 60 would he still want that? Probably not. Plus, A loved the younger kids. He was a terrible role model but he loved them greatly and didn't want them to go through what he did and needed to do something that would shake Wammys House so much it changed how the operated and nothing do do that better than a gool ole fashion suicide.
Other fun facts about A include:
He is transmasc. He has been since he was very young. He one day decided to be a girl again when he was nine and couldn't make it through the day so he's fairly certain little kid him was right on the gender. His parents didn't care and just went with it. They personally renamed him from Alejandra to the very creative new name Alejandro
If A had to choose a name for himself it'd be Axle because it sounds cool
His alias was Auxiliary, and while he found it incredibly insulting it was better than Alternative or something. Definitely better than Backup
A had other aliases he went by. Alan Philips Grant was the name he used to apply to colleges and Anonymity was his detective name for when he wanted to be unconnected to L
A and B are dating and are equally terrible for different reasons
A is goth. But he is often too lazy to dress the way so no one can often tell
Aside from typical gothic music A also likes rap
He doesn't actually care fordetective work. He mostly solved organized crimes cases (his roots of course) but his true passion was marine biology
He and L used to be rivals before they were friends. A is a year and two months younger than L
B
B is from Japan. His legal name is Beyond Birthday but before that it was Koete Tanjobi. When he moved to England, he translated his name directly into English instead of giving himself a normal name. B is part shinigami, his mom being part of some weird shinigami cult. B inherited the eyes from both his parents as they are a recesive trait. His stand in dad died in a robbery and B wasn't to torn up about it, as he was very young and did not really understand death however. His mom died in a train wreck and Beyond was with her at the time. He probably would have died too if not for his shinigami heritage. His shinigami dad is still alive but stuck on earth because his notebook is stuck on earth and no one has bothered to pick it up and give it to him (someone please help him) That’s effectively his punishment for making his horrid child. After his parents died Beyond went and lived with his uncle who eventually sent him to Wammys House as his health was failing and Wammy was a friend of his. Beyond was very shy as a child but eventually was corrupted by A and puberty which made him something of a devious ass. He actually did like detective work but never really managed to surpass A which he was fine with because he liked A alot and seeing him happy made second place much more bearable. In due time he'd gain something of an obsession with beating the real number one which was L obviously on a personal level. After A's death B left for LA where he'd get into some high jinx and several years later would commit LABB.
Other fun facts include:
He can see shinigami and the rules for transferring death note ownership don't apply to him. He can freely pick them up and give them away and not suffer memory loss
B has a medical degree and is a certified forensic tech. He really loves the dead body part of investigations. Not for any weird reason he just likes human anatomy
B gains no overt satisfaction from killing people. He doesn't really have violent urges but he has nothing telling him he shouldn't kill someone. He views a life as the ultimate tool a person has in their journey of existence. Giving it up is something you can only do once so you have to make it count and taking a life to him is just as severe. He just thinks beating L is so important is justifies sacrificing four lives
The rest under the cut.
X
A's older brother, Xavier, and the number 9 of gen 2. Their backstory is similar, only X is unaware that A was the cause of the mafia collapse all those years ago because A never told anyone. He's much less cruel than his brother and alot more straight edged. He likes similar things but he's alot less hardcore about them. He follows orders very well, probably because A always told him what to do as A was the smarter of the two. X generalized his cases, but wasn't much for solving them, which is why he was number 9 dispite being similarly intelligent as his brother. He eventually went on to join the British navy as he came from a well recognized military family and his Wammys connections gave him more free reign than he otherwise would have had. He probably has the most fulfilling Wammys kid life, other than his dead brother which never got over
Fun X facts:
His name is pronounced the Spanish way therfore he sounds more like an H than an X
His alias was Xenon, because there aren't alot of good X names around
He and A used to bully other kids for fun when they were little. X was the muscle, A was the reason they never got caught
He's older than A by three years and has a lot more experience with the real world being one of the only Wammys kids to ever go to public school at some point in their life
They have a photographic memory and remember everything from A's birth onwards
Y
Gen 2s number one. She's from South Korea and her name is Yujin Jin and she hates the repeating sound. Y was more of a peace keeper, being one of the older kids she tried to keep the other L clones civil but always failed. Her parents actually went missing and were never found. There's absolutely no idea where they went but there's strong evidence that they abandoned her to start a new life elsewhere. After she was abandoned she went to an orphanage and was eventually transferred to Wammy's for her brilliance. She was the only other Wammys kid to live a decent life, returning to South Korea as an adult to be a college professor
Fun Y facts:
Her alias was Yin
She was the third oldest of the original successors
She specialized in cold cases and always considered trying to solve her parents case but was too afraid of what she'd learn to do it
She teaches history
Z
Gen 2s number three. He name is Zoe Duval and she was from France. Her parents we arrested for something she is still unaware of. She is a bit afraid to see it because she's certain it was bad. She's very much a more carefree and cool person though somewhat of a loose cannon and overall goofball. She's similar to T in alot of ways and they're good friends but she's close with everyone.
F
Lowest of the originals on the rankings. Not out of stupidity but out of sheer laziness. F is a serious drug addict, though most people can't tell. He's very put together and organized. He sells most of the drugs in Wammys and has gained the reputation as a fun sucker as he plays closer to the rules and generally has the idea of a good time as a calm time. His parents were shot and killed in a robbery. He went though foster care for a while and managed to loose an additional four sets of families before eventually ending up in Wammys House. F unfortunately dies in the field, and is the only other Wammys kid to die in the same place by the same method as their parents (A being the other) For F, he was on a mission in his home country of Taiwan when he was shot.
Fun F facts:
His real name is Feng Lao and his ailias was Ferrum. He also got called Fang alot which he somewhat hated mostly because he didn't like his name being butchered to much. It did somewhat end up becoming his drug dealer name. He has another detective name he rarely uses, which is Fairweather
F barely did detective work. Mostly drug related cases because he was already a drug dealer and already knew how they worked. Plus... he got some good plugs when he didn't arrest people...
F hates guns and therfore has to get weird with his weapon choice. He's well trained in sticks and other long weapons, his weapon of choice is his trusty lead pipe
He has arcade carpet in his room, glowing stars on his ceiling, neon signs on his walls. He loves bright color and no one ever bothered to see what he did to that poor dorm room... the only person who will room with him is K because they are in love (K hates the decor but loves the man) (F is also Bisexual)
F is a character who actually exists. He was in the beginning ofthe L Change The World movie but not the book (I love obscure Wammys kids so much...)
I roleplay him on Tumblr
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K's parents were good friends of Watari and occasionally taught at Wammys. The orphanage has always felt like a second home to her so she adjusted well.
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#still chewing on the idea that ratchet just turned his back on somebody who was supposed to be his best friend at one point#thats just so.#given he’s got no problem forgiving drift for doing equally bad things for a lot longer its like ratchet come on man#but again probably just plot stuff and not meant to be thought about too hard#pharma#idw#meta
OP please forgive me for hijacking your excellent post a little bit but I love Ratchet and I wanted to comment on this. I actually think the way Ratchet treats Pharma in the Delphi arc is intentional (from a writing perspective) and is significant to his overall character arc in MTMTE/LL.
Something I really like about IDW is that everyone kinda sucks, at least a little bit. This is pretty much essential if you're trying to write characters who feel like fully developed people. In real life, nobody gets it right 100% of the time: people mess up and learn and grow, people act on beliefs and emotions they don't always recognize or fully understand, and there are plenty of situations where there just isn't an objectively "correct" answer. Ratchet is my favorite, but by no means do I think he's perfect--he's someone who tries to be a good person and live by his values, but he's complex and flawed, like every real person tends to be.
Ratchet isn't doing so well at the time of Delphi. He's just spent most of his existence living through the horrors of a 4 million year war which got incredibly dark and brutal, something that's easily traumatic for anyone. Despite wanting peace, he doesn't know what to do with himself now that they have it--a lot of the characters in Phase 2 struggle with that transition.
To make matters worse, he's feeling like he's outlived his usefulness. Just before joining the Lost Light, he fails to save a patient's life. His hands are failing him, and he's plagued by the sense that he's getting old and losing his abilities. For someone who has let their profession define so much of their core identity (as well as being the basis of most of his interpersonal relationships), this is a really scary and devastating position to be in.
We also learn (especially through the flashbacks in MTMTE #40) that Ratchet isn't great at acknowledging and addressing his own feelings. He tends to close himself off to others and hold himself at a distance rather than being emotionally vulnerable.
So, overall by the time of Delphi, he's feeling pretty pessimistic and depressed and hopeless, and he's privately carrying all that around with him rather than getting any help or support from others. Frankly, he doesn't treat Drift very well at the start of MTMTE, either. I do think Ratchet is ultimately a kind and compassionate person, and there are moments where that breaks through, but for the most part the way he treats Drift ranges from annoyed disapproval to straight up antagonizing him (like in the Annual, which takes place after Delphi).
On the rooftop at Delphi, Ratchet says to Pharma, "My hands don't work, I'm miles from anyone I truly care about, and I'm still coming to terms with the fact that after a four-million-year build-up, peace has turned out to be a massive anticlimax. Bottom line? I've got nothing else to lose." This absolutely sounds like the kind of thing someone would say when they have basically given up on everything.
So yeah, Ratchet does turn his back on Pharma in a really big way, and I think he was wrong to do that. But, considering what we're shown about who he is as a person and what he's currently going through, I can understand why he does. It takes him a long time after that to do enough personal growth and healing that he actually can forgive and be honest with Drift. And I wonder if there isn't some element of regret in all that, a sense that he has to do better with Drift than he did with Pharma, a nagging bit of guilt that he can barely acknowledge to himself that he fumbled things extremely badly to disastrous results. It wouldn't be the first time we've seen Ratchet blame himself for failing to help/stop someone (i.e. the guilt he feels over everything Deadlock did).
Again, apologies to OP for taking over your Pharma post to talk about Ratchet. I completely agree with your reading of Pharma and the whole fucked up relationship they have going on is so important to me.
I think the key component to my personal reading of post-Delphi Pharma is that he's trying to be a horrible person on purpose. Not "on purpose" in the way that people have free will to exercise their own choices, but in that Pharma's "mad doctor" persona is a performance he puts on to deliberately embrace how much everyone else hates him. Basically, if people already think you're a "bad Autobot" and a horrible doctor who just kills his patients for fun, why try to prove otherwise to people who have already made up their minds about you? Just fully embrace the fact that people see you as an asshole. Don't try to change their minds. Don't plead for their forgiveness or understanding. Just stop caring. If you're going to be remembered as a monster, you might as well be a memorable monster, and eke as much pleasure and hedonism as you can out of it before karma catches up to you and you inevitably crash and burn.
I mean, I guess you could just go the route of "Oh, Pharma was always a fucked up creepy guy and Delphi was just him taking the mask off," but I really don't like that interpretation because, for one, it feels really wrong to take a character like Pharma becoming evil under duress and going, "Oh well clearly he did the things he did because he was evil all along," as if somehow Pharma breaking under blackmail/torture/threat of horrible death was a sign of him having poor moral character. As opposed to, you know, suffering under the very real threat of horrible death for himself and everyone he cares about while being manipulated by a guy who specializes in psychological torture.
The second reason is that it just doesn't make sense to write Pharma as having been evil all along. I mean...
Occam's Razor says that the best argument is the one with the simplest explanation. Doesn't it make way more sense to take Pharma's appearances in flashbacks, his friendship with Ratchet, his stunning medical accomplishments, and the few we see of him speaking kindly/sympathetically (or in the least charitable interpretation, at least professionally) towards his patients and conclude "This guy was just a normal person, if exceptionally talented." Taking all of these flashback appearances at face value and assuming Pharma was being genuine/honest is a way simpler and more logical explanation than trying to argue that Pharma for the past 4 million years was just faking being a good doctor/person. I mean, it's possible within the realm of headcanon, but the fact is Pharma's appearances in the story are so brief that there simply wasn't room in the story for there to be some sort of secret conspiracy/hidden manipulation behind why Pharma acted the way he did in the past.
I just can't help but look at things like Pharma's friendship with Ratchet (himself a good person and usually a fine judge of character) and the fact that even post-Delphi, pretty much every single mention of Pharma comes with some mention of "He was a good doctor for most of his life" or "He was making major headways in research [before he started killing patients]" which implies that even the Autobots themselves see Pharma's villainy as a recent turn in his life compared to how for "most of his life" he "used to be" a good doctor.
And although Pharma doesn't know this, we as the readers (and even other characters like Rung) know about Aequitas technology and the fact that it actually works, so... if Pharma really was an unrepentant murderer, why couldn't he get through the forcefield too? The Aequitas forcefield doesn't require that a person be completely morally pure and free of wrongdoing or else how could Tyrest get through, just that they feel a sense of inner peace and lack feelings of guilt. Pharma has murdered and tortured people by this point, and put on quite a campy and theatrical show of how much he sees it as a fun game, so why then can he not get through?
It circles back to my headcanon at the start of this post that the "mad doctor" persona is just that-- a persona. Delphi/post-Delphi Pharma's laughing madman personality is just so far removed from every flashback we saw of him and everything we can infer based on how other people see/saw him before that, to me, the mad doctor act is (at least in large part, if not fully) a persona that Pharma puts on to put his villainy in the forefront.
To avoid an overly simplistic/ableist take, I don't think Tarn tortured Pharma into turning crazy. To me, it's more like the constant pressure of death by horrific torture, the feeling of martyrdom as Pharma kept secret that he was the only one standing between Delphi and annihilation, the physical isolation of Messatine as well as the emotional separation from Ratchet, being forced to violate his medical oaths (pretty much the only thing Pharma's entire life has been about), etc. All of that combined traumatized Pharma to the point that the only way he could avoid cracking was to just stop caring about all of it. Because at least then, even if he's still murdering patients to save Delphi from a group of sadistic freaks, Pharma doesn't have to feel guilty and sick about doing it. As opposed to the alternatives, which were probably either going off the deep end and killing himself to escape, or confessing to what he did and getting jailed for it.
In that light, Pharma becoming a mad doctor makes sense. It avoids the bad writing tropes of "oh this character who was good his entire life was actually just evil and really good at hiding it" as well as "oh he got tortured and went crazy that's why he's so random and silly and killing people, he's crazy" and instead frames Pharma's evil as something he was forced into, to the point where in order to avoid a full psychological breakdown and keep defending Delphi, he just had to stop caring about the sanctity of life or about what other people might think of him.
Then, of course, the actual Delphi episode happens, and Pharma's own lifelong best friend Ratchet basically spits in his face and sees him as nothing more than a crazy murderer who went rogue from being a good Autobot. Then Pharma gets his hands cut off and left to die on Messatine. At that point, Pharma has not only been mentally/emotionally broken into losing his feelings of compassion, he's received the message loud and clear: He is alone. Everyone hates him. Not even his own best friend likes him any more. No one even cared enough about him to check if he actually died or not. He will only ever be remembered as a doctor who went insane and killed his patients.
So in the light of 1. Having all of your redeeming qualities be squeezed out of you one by one for the sake of survival and 2. Having your reputation and all of your positive relationships be destroyed and 3. People only know/care about you as "that doctor who became evil and killed his patients" rather than the millions of years of good service that came before.
What else is there to do but internalize the fact that you'll forever be seen as a monster and a freak, and embrace it? People already see you as a murderer for that blackmail deal you did, so why not become an actual murderer and just start killing people on a whim? People already see you as an irredeemable monster who puts a stain on the Autobot name, so why beg for their forgiveness when you could just shun them back? You've already become a murderer, a traitor, and a horrible doctor, so what's a few more evil acts added to the pile? It's not like anyone will ever forgive you or love you ever again.
Why care? Why try to hold on to your principles of compassion, kindness, medical ethics, when an entire lifetime of being a good person did nothing to save you from blackmail and then abandonment? Why put yourself through the emotional agony of feeling lonely, guilty, miserable, when you could just... stop caring, and not hurt any more?
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I just found your blog, and read your post on Billy, and literally could not agree more. My parents worked with kids, a lot of them suffering from childhood abuse. Over the years I've become friends with them, some of them were very angry and mean when I first met them. And its hard seeing people I know be treated as a villain on the show. I could never understand what it would be like to see a character you relate to be killed in a violent way, and make it seem like he deserved it??? And the Duffer said they wanted a new villain in the show, but why did they have to make him a victim of childhood abuse. Could he not just be an ass like Tommy or something?
Anyway I think Billy deserved a redemption arc, and I think espically in season 4, I feel like his personality would work really well with the rest of the group. I also believe he and Max should have gotten that sibling relationship they both needed. Plus I would have loved to see them together, as would literally everyone else.
In my mind he's still alive, him and Max have moved back to California, and he taught her how to surf.
Thank you for this. I think people try and disconnect shows way too far from reality. Like fiction is fiction, reality is reality; but in the grand scheme of things, they are two sides of the same coin. How we see media in one way or another shows how we view reality.
Seeing so many people want billy dead, how many people saying he deserved not only his painful death but to be abused and go through the trauma of being possessed and being used to do horrible things. it's scary. Like I want these people to be forced to look a traumatized person like billy, a person who reacted similarly to billy, in the face and tell them they deserved every horrible thing that happened to them and that they deserve to die horribly.
Like people want to separate billy's experience and his actions so far from real life that their true colors show. they don't care about trauma or mental health, it doesn't mean anything to them if its not palatable, if its not pretty or objectifiable.
And then people who have worked/been around people like him, or are in essence like him, had to watch their hatred be supported by the masses. I fall into both categories, I have gone through very similar life experiences and reacted similarly, but I want to go into child psychology and social work. Most of my friends I have known since we were kids have similar backgrounds to him. and it hurts so much to think people want us dead, at least deep down.
I can only imagine how you feel about this, having been so intimately connected to people like him. it has to hurt equally so, if not worse.
I would have loved for him to be redeemed as he was supposed to. had the show had another human antagonist he would have been, it was in one of the original drafts for season 2 and 3. I try to imagine what it would have been like for him to have gotten a chance to escape, to get better, to live happily. he would have been a great addition to the group, he'd have been very protective, and even wise. he knows what its like to have a shit ton of trauma so young, he would have been a great person for the younger kids.
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Sincerity is Scary
[Sad ending] [Continuation & Happy]
synopsis: haechan and you are best friends who couldn't admit their feelings which frustrates them both and the people around the two of you
content: college au! haechan x reader
word count: 1.9K
warning: none
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You spit your coke - that didn't taste like one and coughed. you glared at haechan.
"what did you put in my coke?" you huffed. haechan gave you his innocent look.
"i don't know what you're talking about." he pouted.
"you put soy sauce in it right? i knew i should not leave my food and drinks when you're around." you said throwing tantrums.
haechan laughed and threw his arm over your shoulder and shoved a cold wet can of coke into your cheeks.
"here, drink this." he said, cooly. you rolled your eyes.
"you wasted money just to annoy me, seriously." you grunted.
"it's worth it though." he chuckled.
someone coughed and both of you just realized that you're with haechan's friends which your friends now.
"i thought you two forgotten we're with you." renjun used his sarcastic voice.
"both of you literally have your own worlds." jaemin added.
"i really don't understand why you're not dating here dude." jeno teased.
"what? hell no!" you said in unison.
you looked at each other, silently hurt. both of you felt awkward and haechan removed his arm from your shoulder. you opened the can of coke haechan gave.
haechan friends- renjun, jaemin, and jeno noticed the awkwardness between you. at first it was cute but it has been 3 years, they've been watching both of you and it was clear to them that you like each other. but what's stopping you and haechan from admitting it?
fear of the possibility of being wrong that you have mutual feelings for each other or that what happens if love vanishes because you'll never know. haechan is your childhood friend and your parents are really close there was a time you used to take a bath together when you're still toddlers. basically, you're so close with him and it'll be wasted.
you were lying on your stomach on haechan's bed while scrolling through your phone as you try to distract yourself from menstrual cramps. haechan is playing with his friends through his computer.
you shoved your face and groaned in pain because your menstrual cramp is an asshole! it was sever when it comes, it can make your head throb and your body is very weak. haechan heard you, the other side of his headphone wasn't covering his other ear. he looked back to check on you. he caught you massaging your abdomen.
"y/n?" brows furrowed in concern.
"hmm?" you just hummed.
"are you okay?" he worriedly asked, his hands were on the keyboard but he's not doing anything reason for jeno calling him out.
"haechan, what the hell dude?!"
"not really." you admitted. your in pain it was evident in your voice, face, and body.
haechan quickly removed his headphone and leave his gaming chair to go to you. you turned, your back is lying down now. haechan was staring at your hands on top of your lower abdomen.
"cramps again?" haechan knew how badly it gets when you're in menstruation. you nodded, you're almost tearing up.
he pitied you, he put his hands larger than yours and slightly rougher on top of the back of your palm. he's giving you a massage without directly touching your abdomen.
"you should've told me. wait here, i'll prepare the hot compress bag." he said and stood up.
"you have hot compress?"
"well, ahm.. mom bought it. wait here." he was lying, he bought it himself because he was traumatized 4 months ago where your cramp strike when you were in his house. that was the worst cramp that you ever experienced and it was in haechan's condo. since then, haechan stored napkins and bought hot compress.
haechan took care of you and he gave you his whole attention. he forgotten his game, left his computer open and friends hanging. but his friend already knew that you're always haechan's priority. haechan waited for you to sleep. it became a habit to you to sleep on haechan's arm and he's not bothered even though sometimes he couldn't feel his arm anymore because of numbness. he was jist staring at you as if you're the most precious thing he owns...
haechan saw his computer.
"sht." he cursed, he forgot he's playing. since you're already sleeping, he carefully removed his arm under your head. he went back to his seat and wore his headphone.
"sorry dude, y/n is not feeling well."
"your girlfriend?" jaemin teased. haechan just chuckle... bitterly.
"why don't you date her already?" jeno said.
"haechan, seriously you two look like dating already. why don't you just make it straight already?" renjun said.
haechan went silent. he couldn't count anymore how many times they tell this to him, but for him it was very hard. it wasn't easy, simply because it was scary. he thinks the same way with you, it's just scary of what's the difference of your relationship as friend vs lovers, that if it didn't work out because it's better to be just friends, then what will happen next? will you still become as comfortable with him? will he become as close to you as he used to? it's scary because both of you don't know what will happen so you both chose to hide it and keep it that way.
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it's your university's foundation, there will be a night party. you went inside with haechan but women quickly eyeing at him. who wouldn't? he's wearing a black leathered jacket, ripped jeans, and his hair that is quite long made him more four times sexier.
"haechan, i'll just get a fruit punch. do you want some?" you asked slightly louder than your normal voice because of the noise.
haechan who's enjoying the band's performance, gaze down at you and shook his head.
"no thanks. want me to come with you?" he asked. you just shook your head saying that he doesn't have to. he just nodded and went back enjoying the performance.
you left him and go to the catering buffet just to grab fruit punch and quickly went back to where you left him but you stopped from walking when you saw him with another girl, standing beside him where you left. they were talking intimately, and it was painful. imagine jeno punching your stomach, yes! with those arms and strength, that's the scale of pain.
unware, the three boys- renjun, jeno, and jaemin watching the drama while munching the shared bag of chips.
"she will cry." jeno bet.
"nah, she will push the girl." jaemin contradict.
"tsk, no." renjun grabbed a handful chips from the bag earning a glare from the two. "she will confess." jeno and jaemin eyes bulge out for renjun being ridiculous, at least for them.
"her? that's not gonna happen." jaemin said. renjun rolled his eyes.
"as if she will push the girl jaemin, y/n isn't like that."
well they all agreed and returned watching the drama while eating chips. yeah, they are eating chips in the room with a catering service.
you walk, heart-pounding loudly and hands shaking while holding the cup. you silently stood beside haechan hoping that he will notice you, unfortunately, he didn't. you disappointedly sipped on the paper cup.
you were silently and listening to their conversation- well you are trying your best because the loud music made it harder for you. they were like getting to know each other kind of questions.
you're getting annoyed so you sneakily held haechan's hand. he quickly whipped his head down to you. he gazed at your hands then to you who looking straight to the band. when haechan realize it was you, warm electricity traveled in his whole system. the random girl saw everything, so she concluded that you and haechan are dating.
"well, I have to go to my friends... ahm bye." the girl nervously and quickly walked away. haechan didn't mind her, he was just staring at you.
"is she gone?" you looked up to face haechan who was seriously looking at you.
for some odd reason, his expression made your heartbeat fast not in a fluttering way but it made you nervous.
"let's talk outside." he told you sounding a little disappointed. both of you walk while holding hands.
and the 3 guys? saw that and was jumping on their feet and slapping each other in excitement.
"dude, dude! they will finally date!" jaemin said
"finally my frustration will end now." renjun said, he sighed in relief hands on top of his chest. "but why do i feel something ominous." he said feeling unease.
"don't jinx it." jeno groaned.
you and haechan were outside the hall, away from the crowd and noise. haechan let go of your hand and face you.
you were looking nervous and he.. he's sad and disappointed.
"i will never date a friend." haechan directly told you that you didn't expect to hear.
the atmosphere was tense and it's like the heaven and hell compressing you made you feel so small. you were deeply hurt but you didn't allow haechan to see that. you masked it with a laugh.
"why are you telling me that? wah... you think i will date you? yikes." you were laughing and it looked so real. you badly want to cry but don't want to. you were disappointed that you were right. you're just too close, his actions to you are equally no different to a friend.
haechan? like he was hurt. he was asking himself why did he say that? it wasn't real but he was also asking himself, why did you say that? it was written all over your face no matter how many emotions and expressions you put in your face, you were deeply hurt.
"well, i thought you were falling for me already." he grinned. you rolled your eyes.
"in your dreams." yeah, only in dreams.
"let's go back?" haechan asks holding in the pain in his chest. you gave him a smile.
"you go back first, i'll just go to the toilet." holding back your tears. the toilet is in the opposite direction from the room.
haechan just nodded and left you, parting ways. you turned your back and released every single emotion as you walked quickly towards the toilet room.
haechan with a heavy heart went back to the room. his friends approached haechan, hugging him and playfully pushing him.
"congrats dude!" renjun said cheerfully. haechan's forehead creased.
"what?"
"dude, you're finally dating y/n!" renjun said. but they saw haechan's face, it doesn't look like you were dating already. their smiles fell and turned into disbelief.
"what?! how?!" jeno exclaimed.
"just, i don't know." he shrugged.
"it's your fault, you jinxed it" jaemin amused that it was really jinxed by renjun. renjun gripped his own hair in frustration.
so why did haechan lie?
he realized that his world is small because the only person in it is you and that's not good. but he never wanted to lose you. at the same time haechan with the same reason that he always says in his mind. if things don't work out, someone will definitely leave. he couldn't bear that.
does it make sense? no. he's just convincing his self that this is why you don't like to date y/n.
sincerity is hard to give especially if you overthink things. as the song said, questioning why can't we just be sincere? it so easy but why is it hard for us? well, there are times that when we choose sincerity we ended up being vulnerable. the idea of being hurt is scary but you know what either way it's painful but it was extra painful when you became sincere because you know you became true to yourself but weren't accepted.
there will be another part, continuation but for people who don't like sad ending life me 😿
#haechan#haechan angst#nct dream haechan#nct dream angst#nct dream imagines#nct dream#haechan imagines
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as a jew with narcissistic personality disorder, i have some thoughts about this, aimed at anon:
narcissism does NOT equal bad person. i am a clinically classified narcissist and i am not a bad person, objectively speaking (this is based on what people have said to and about me, i personally feel i am terrible but what do i know lol). using narcissism to describe someone who is acting shitty is not okay and only adds to the stigma of NPD. i am saying this as someone who was abused by multiple narcissists throughout their life. people are NOT shitty to you because they are narcs, they can be shitty to you while also happening to be narcs. stop demonizing narcissism and appropriating the term to describe assholes. there are countless assholes out there who are not narcs.
i understand the point of the vent being made, and i promise i'm tired of the whole "holier than thou" shit with morals too. people acting like only THEIR version of morals are correct and everyone else's are wrong is so fucking frustrating. but as i mentioned earlier, this does not point to narcissism; rather, it is a self-serving bias which literally all people on the planet are susceptible to. i am not saying this in defense of the hamasniks or antisemites, but to simply point out that they are assholes simply because they are assholes, not because they are all narcs. going down the route they've gone is a LOT easier than one may think, and that's why there are so many of these people. i honestly think that if i weren't jewish, i would be antisemitic too, with the way antisemitic rhetoric is shoved down everyone's throat.
you can express being frustrated and exhausted from such things without throwing narcissists under the bus because i promise you, we really are not the evil demons society loves making us out to be. we were abused, we were traumatized, and we are trying to cope in the only way we know how. many narcissists may do terrible things, and what we've gone through doesn't excuse our behavior! but if narcs like me are actively trying to be better, please be kind to us. don't generalize the entire population of narcs, because we as jews don't like when the jewish population is generalized either. all groups have their bad apples but we're all hurting and still people.
by the way, if anyone has any questions about narcissistic personality disorder, narcissistic traits, cluster B personality disorders, or other related psychology topics in general, please feel free to ask me about them! i'd be more than happy to help people learn! we all need to stand together 🤍
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RE JIMIN'S LOVE LANGUAGE
This is in response to questions I've received in my message box following my recent post on Jimin's love language. Ignore this if you've read my main post on this same topic- Or maybe not.
Also, I'm sorry about the Asks. I accidentally turned it off- AGAIN. Thanks for drawing my attention to it. I purple y'all.
What I meant by my last post was that, for us to understandJimin or even the rest of the members' love language, it is important we make a distinction between what is uniquely Jimin/the individual members' love language and what is their culture's or even the established and accepted practices within their group.
And on that, I said skinship is a cultural practice but also one of the group's adopted love languages. It is their way of achieving intimacy and bonding with eachother and as such they do not associate romantic connotations with it.
Thus, when they touch eachother in any way, provocative as it may seem to us, to them there is nothing romantic about it at all. So when Taekook, Jikook, Yoonmin or any of these pairs touch eachother, it is not with romantic intentions.
Why then does Jimlous and Jeonlous exist? For a myriad of reasons other than that skinship is romantic! Lol
I've explained previously, that JK and Jimin's discomfort with each other's skinship with the others often has to do with the lack of boundaries that is inherent in skinship rather than that they are actually jealous or see skinship as romantic. This is often true for Jimin.
With JK, his possessive nature very often amplifies his discomfort with the lack of boundaries but also because, out of the seven, he is the only one that had had a problem accepting and participating in the skinship culture within the group- well, him and Suga. It's taking them some getting used to.
But that wasn't because he was viewing skinship as romantic but rather because he was uncomfortable with affections and the overt expressions of it as is required of skinship.
That's not to say they do not or have not implied romantic intentions with their touches- there is nothing platonic about boners. Lol.
And any skinship that results in a visible sexual tension or arousal can no longer be deemed skinship- it's foreplay.
Jikook does skinship all the time like everyone else in the band, but often too some of those skinship crosses the platonic threshold into sexual foreplay- they ain't slick.
You just have to see the look on Tae's face when he noticed, through the view finder, Jimin caressing JK's thumb to comprehend that not all their touches are mere skinship.
That's one of the differences between Jikook and the other ships; Jikook presents a mutual sexual attraction towards eachother beyond the pubescent hormonal teen frenzy that marked their early formative days- god, those boys were so horny they could hump a tree to death. Bless them.
Mind you, I disregard any sexual innuendos that was present in Jikook's dynamics as well as any other ship's dynamics, if ever there was one, during that hormonal teen period of their lives. It was all something but nothing at the same time. They were all just being horny and gross teenage boys- Hashtag, war of hormones for real for real. Lol
All that that timeline taught me was, Jikook are freaky af and certainly don't see each other as brothers. CERTAINLY.
That being said, for a better understanding of Jimin's love language, a distinction must be made between love language and sexual interest. It will make sense in a bit.
Because Jimin's father is an affectionate person and this is the love language he has taught to Jimin, Jimin interprets any affectionate and kind act as a loving gesture. It is how he gives love, it is how he receives love.
He values kindness and compassion, selflessness, vulnerability, transparency, fairness etc.
Thus to show his love for you he will be kind to you, vulnerable with you, transparent with you, supportive of you and nurturing of you.
We see him being like this with all the members, even the staff and dancers too at times but more so with Tae and JK.
The question then is, how does Jimin receive love? What actions does he interpret as love? Easy, sexual attraction. Hear me out.
You see, because Jimin is a natural nurturer and he sees nurturing as a universal love language that everyone speaks or ought to speak, he requires his romantic love interest to distinguish between their platonic love interest and their romantic love interest.
To fulfill him emotionally, you would have to make him feel special, treat him differently from your friends, and let him know that you want him and only him.
Sexual interest is one way of distinguishing between platonic interests and romantic interests, and it flows from this that he not only requires grand gestures, or special treatment but that you flirt with him as well.
Hence his emphasis on flirting. He likes to flirt. He enjoys it. He's mastered it. He's a fucking pro at it- give him his medal.
Just to be clear, even though flirting is part of his love language, he has also adopted flirting as part of his idol persona and often when he is flirting overtly he is only doing it for the 'fan service.'
But that doesn't mean all of that is fan service. Sometimes it's blatant foreplay as I've explained above and if you can't tell the difference between his foreplay and fanservice- chileee, I can't help you.
I'm still traumatized by that Bon V 4 moment. Sweet Jesus, save me if they should keep this energy up!
It's important, at this point, to note that because Jimin is a nurturer, every decent human being can easily be compatible with him. I have said several times over my blog that Jimin is ship compatible with anyone and everyone- I ain't mad at that.
What it comes down to then is whom he prefers and whom he is choosing to make him happy and to fulfill him. I explained that choice and being able to be in charge of decision making and to make his own decisions is very important to Jimin because on his background.
And when it comes to love, it's no secret who Jimin wants. He wants JK and that's on Periodttt.
I explained that in the early days during Rookie King, he felt he needed to get emotionally closer to JK when he had an opportunity to talk and heal as a group- his personal was important to him.
In that JinJikook VLive when Jin was eating a lollipop in a provocative way he asked him to stop immediately but couldn't, for the love of god, tear his eyes off JK when JK ate his lollipop in a- I can't. Jikook!
Unless he is in his fan service mood or is being his slytherin slash whore of babylon self- bless him, often he would reject any attempt by anyone to flirt with him except JK.
And I keep reiterating this, flirting isn't JK's thing. It's Jimin's thing. The last time JK tried to this flirty- he cried. Lmho
Take that interview where the host moved closer to Jimin in a flirty way for example. Jimin leaned back away from him. In the popular words of Jimin- don't do that.
Then in this airport scene right here, where Suga and Tae tried to protect JM from getting mobbed (if video is missing check bottom of this post. I hate tumblr)
You could see Jimin moving towards JK. Now some may argue he was trying to protect the JK who seemed oblivious to what was going on but I beg to differ.
I just think Jimin was moving towards JK because that's his safe haven. That's the person he feels the most safe with. 'Jk will protect' 'JK is strong.' He felt threatened and his instincts was to fin that person whom he feels would and should protect him- and that person usually isn't very far away.
And no, I'm not being biased. It's just I can't in good conscience theorize and make wild assumptions about Jimin's emotional needs the way I would the other's because unlike the others, Jimin keeps showing us what he wants. Y'all are just not listening.
It is why I said, JK on paper seemed like the last person to meet Jimin's emotional needs. He didn't strike me as the ambitious type or the daring type the way Yoongi presented himself in early days. It is why I shipped Yoonmin or even Vmin.
And even in those ships, I didn't believe they were real. Suga was too emotional closed off and wouldn't
And as I explained, having been denied his ambitions, it's not a stretch to assume, Jimin desires an ambitious partner. One who loves the stage, loves their career.
But I feel, most people including myself underestimated Jungkook. As much as JK may not appear as ambitious career wise, he is one of the most passionate members of group.
His decision to join BTS was driven purely by passion, his decision to start GCF, get a tattoo and every other endeavor he's embarked has been driven purely by his passion. And passion is a variant of ambition.
Jimin pursues his ambitious and JK pursues his passions- they are the same in the same way. And I see why Jimin will tell JK they are one and the same. They are more alike than we think they are.
So yes, Jimin needs an ambitious partner but a passionate partner equally suffices.
What equally suffices is a supportive partner. One willing to sacrifice their ambitions or needs when it comes to it, to accommodate Jimin's needs. Jimin is very competitive in nature and hates to lose, we've been told.
And nobody lets Jimin win the way JK does. Nobody. It's funny, because VMin's dumpling fight took days/weeks to resolve. And Jikook's raining dat fight took a few hours.
What hit me about that tale as told by Jikook was JK going to Jimin to resolve their fight- another instance he let Jimin win. Tae loves Jimin but I don't see him sacrificing his ego and pride the way JK would for Jimin. I don't see any member doing that for Jimin quite frankly.
It is one way I see JK nurturing Jimin. Jk can be hard headed but there is a softness and a tenderness to him that's speaks to Jimin's love language.
I can go on and on about this topic, you know? Lol
Signed,
GOLDY
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