#which if you ask me may be a deeply flawed and problematic response but im not expecting the people of an occupied nation

[timeisacephalopod]

Admittedly I don't know much about the Israel Palestine war but I keep seeing news articles that refer to it as the Israel Hamas war and no it is not. After all Israel has done it gets to be referred to by it's country name and not "terrorists who kill babies and children at the speed of light" but Palestine gets reduced to Hamas?

It just leaves a bad taste in my mouth that the struggle of the Palestinian people keeps getting reduced to the existence of Hamas, but at no point does the ongoing state violence of Israel define its existence when by all means it should when my understanding is that the creation of Israel was stealing land from Palestinians. Why is Israel's violence ignored while Palestine is defined by the admittedly shit group that only arose out of decades of occupation and imperialism? Those two things are not the same and ignoring Israel's violence to act like Hamas came from nowhere just to hurt the poor Israeli government who acts like they've done nothing wrong is ridiculous to me.

[elvctrickiss]

I can't speak for everyone, but speaking as someone with a general verse muse, I try to play her as accurately as possible. Being considered an 'older' muse, combined with the fact that I've had her on and off for years now, she's worked through a lot of the 'kinks' you mentioned. She still has issues she works through, but she works through them privately or with those she's close with. Because that's the type of person she is, I won't create flaws where there are none, (cont)

nor will I have her broadcast her problems to the public when that simply isn't in her character, and I'm sorry if that's boring to you. On the flip side, I've noticed when a female (or male) fc is widely considered 'sexy', people often have preconceived notions of who/what they should be, and treat them as shallow characters. I've noticed this with starters and replies you've written for people, too. Myself included. It's a two way street, if you want to dig deeper into interactions between muses, you have to put the effort forth to communicate with others or be open minded enough to give people starters or replies that don't pigeon hole their muse. I would love to flesh out certain aspects of my muse further, but I rarely have the opportunity to because people don't look past her looks and only give me threads which emphasize that, and it's hard to plot when you feel disinterest from your partner. Just thought another perspective might be helpful.

hello! thank you very much for your insightful message. first of all, i completely understand where this is coming from; i concede that my post was written while i was in a place of frustration and that i didn’t, perhaps, express what i wanted to properly. i’ll try to tackle your points as comprehensively as possible, but i apologize if i don’t fully explain myself, as this is an issue that does appear to be sensitive. i’ll also put this under a read more just so that i don’t clog people’s dashes (as i expect this will be a lengthy response); apologies in advance!

first, i appreciate you telling me that your muse is one that has worked through her kinks and issues and, for the ones she has now, she is doing so privately. i respect that you have had the opportunity to do so over a long period of time, and i of course understand that you have no intention to broadcast every single gory detail of her personal life. i can see how my post may have come across as me just shunning nice, normal muses form the get-go. please understand that this was not at all my intention, and i apologize for suggesting that i demand every muse i interact with to be openly problematic. 

i go through the muse pages of people religiously, and i don’t turn away from them just because they have nice muses. i have never done so nor will i ever.  my post was referring to specific instances in which people and i would already be communicating or talking/plotting and i would want to know more about muses that i know nothing about. this is because their muses don’t have clear descriptions or perhaps have sparse bios that present me with minimal insight -- this is actually fine as long as the person is willing to tell me later on what to expect. when i ask about them, i get the same answer. “they’re nice and friendly.” when i ask them for more (and not necessarily more conflict), rarely do i get any information that suggests that they were built as muses with dimension. perhaps, conversely, if a person just told me “they’re horrible,” but couldn’t really give me anything else, it might be the same issue, but i’ve yet to encounter a muse that’s just simply horrible. 

last night, i read through a few muses’ bios that were quite nice; they weren’t problematic, nor did they have any horrible childhood to suggest their niceness was a front for something, or anything like that. but i noticed that their creators put in thought into them; they know what pisses them off, what they’re afraid of, what they obsess over, what they dream of/to be, etc. this information isn’t even necessary in a plot, but it gives me a better understanding of the muse as a character and not just a cut-out. i don’t have a problem with them at all, and i look forward to interacting with them because i can see that their muns like their characters enough to think a little more about them. 

now, the above statement might be misconstrued as me saying “oh! i see some bios that are meh and their muses are one-dimensional so nope! not interacting.” that’s not what i mean at all! again, this is already in regard to some people who i’ve talked to and tried to gain a better understanding of in terms of their muses but have gotten back very little. 

again, this post is not in relation to people i haven’t ever interacted with; i don’t not follow people and diss them after reading about their nice muse. i, myself, have some nice muses -- miyoung and minseok, for instance, are pretty unproblematic as attitudes go! i think it’s a little too much of a leap to suggest i don’t put in the effort to interact with people and just avoid them; i made that post in referral to interactions i already had in the last month. this is more deeply rooted in the problem i’ve been having with shipping, which is when people approach me for ship plots but don’t give me enough to help me understand what the basis of any kind of ship is. i suppose (and this is just me, maybe!) it bothers me when i try to ask them how they’d fit together, and sometimes i get responses like, “she’s cute and friendly, so he could fall in love with her,” but it doesn’t match the context of what we were talking about. if the person gave me more to work with after i asked, it would be fine, but with little else, i’m not sure if i could feel comfortable continuously interacting with a muse like that for the thread we’re talking about. additionally, if we talk about multiple threads, would it not be frustrating if i were interacting with three different muses from the same person that were virtually identical to one another? this has already happened to me during the plotting stages on this blog and on another rp blog for another fandom. 

as for starters and replies that i’ve written, i don’t want to sound defensive when i ask for this! but may i know which starters and replies you’re referring to? many of the starters i’ve posted are ones i’ve talked about with other people at some length, and i tried as much as possible to carry out the plot that we agreed upon together. some of them are for smut or for a romantic relationship, so maybe that might be what you’re referring to, but these were always plotted out to a pretty good extent with a partner. the ones that were at random (i looked at the recent ones only, so please let me know if you’re referring to something older!) that i generated at a more quickfire pace were not for anyone in mind; they had ?’s, so i didn’t choose any muses in particular, and i’m really uncertain about which muses im treating as specifically shallow just because they’re sexy. if you let me know which starters you’re referring to, i’ll gladly address any pigeonholing if i can see that i just stereotyped a “hot muse,” but i will also try to determine first if this was a starter written for a plot that was discussed before. 

i am the first to admit that i am sometimes a victim to disinterest, but i will also be the first to say that i don’t usually feel disinterest without ever trying to be engaged or immersed first. i was non-selective for a very long time and was happy to rp with anyone, but over some time i’ve noticed that some people (i won’t say a majority, because that’s obviously not true) i already had threads with just want something and also don’t give me any indication that they’re willing to let both our muses grow or develop. maybe it’s not right for me to expect that, and perhaps you can also tell me if that’s too snooty; maybe it is? but when i approach people (and 9/10 times i do make the first step), i always ask these questions: is there any muse of yours you want to develop? any specific plot you think would be good for your muse or might help you develop you writing?

i don’t ever see myself as an initially or inherently snobby rp partner, but over time, i’ve become guarded and maybe a bit sensitive; maybe that’s the wrong reaction on my part, and i’ll think about that more for sure. i’d just like to, again, emphasize that the post you seem to be responding to is in any way attacking nice muses, although, again, i can definitely see that it might come across this way. sometimes, when i rant, i don’t provide the right context (or, in this case, any at all, which was an error on my part), and perhaps that might be the reason why i worded things so terribly. i’ve been reading it over for the past 30 minutes (as i reply to this), and i do apologize for sounding so problem-hungry and snobbish. you’re absolutely right when you say that it’s okay that a muse is nice and has no huge kinks, and i have never thought that it wasn’t okay for them to be so. perhaps what i should have said is that when i’m plotting with someone, i really do want to see the dimension in a character that suggests the mun has really put some good thought into them. if i ask for “anything else,” apart from the “friendly and nice,” i just wish the answer weren’t “nah, that’s it!” you can tell me about their interests, what they do in their spare time, what their pet peeves are, and these are things that will help me feel like oh, so i can talk about this with this muse! and it can be like a point in which their friendship/romance/mentorship/hateship blossoms. 

that’s really all i want. again, i have no excuse for wording things the way i did, and i’ll definitely think about explaining things better. i think the better promise i’d make is to not post about what i’m feeling when i haven’t fully processed my emotions and thoughts. thank you for your perspective, and i will also take into account any further replies you have. however, i actually really hope that you can come off anon and we can talk. i’m not an inherently angry person (i know my post must have made it seem that way, but i’m really not), and i’m open to learning the error of my ways, but, perhaps, if there’s a response to this very lengthy post, we could talk about it more concisely.