#when i mean seriously aggressive it's seriously

[olderthannetfic]

Ok. Dumb question incoming, but I'd much have a 'conversation' than try to read fanlore or watch video essays or something because I want to hear individual people's contributions.

Why Star Trek?

Don't get me wrong - I like the franchise! I'm not super duper familiar with it, but I do enjoy the bits and pieces that I do know. But I am wondering why that in particular is hailed as the grandmother of all fandoms? Obviously people were fannish before Trek, but I don't think anyone can deny the impact that OG Trekkies had on fic, zines, and eventually on the internet.

I know that it's always been popular and well-liked, but it's not as if there was NO SUCH THING as popular culture/fan culture before that (I mean, come on, the term "parasocial" predates the first Star Trek episode by 10 years!) . Was it just a perfect mix of timing + popularity + etc? Is there something in particular about ST that "hit different" than other series at the time? Or is the fandom really really just that mighty and it's almost "luck" in a way? I guess I'm wondering what particular dominoes cascaded in a line in order for Star Trek to have the impact on fandom that it does today.

or am I wrong? were there just-as-big fandoms before and I simply overhype Trekkie power in my head / happen to see more talk of that than I do of other fandoms? It could definitely be a social circle bias thing.

Ugh. Asking OTNF why Star Trek is so important to fandom history feels very much like asking a Russian History major why War & Peace is so important to literature - hence why I warned you that it'd be a dumb question! But I am just so damn curious what sort of crack was in early ST fandom that made it SO widespread and SO strong.

Like, I guess the TLDR is: what was particularly 'different' about Star Trek, either as a fandom or as a franchise or both, that made it Theeeeee OG fandom, rather than something, like, i dunno, LOTR or the earliest versions of Marvel/DC comics or General Hospital or something else like that?

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I await the hordes of angry Man from U.N.C.L.E. fans eager to prove that they were first.

And, no, it wasn't that popular. Hence the aggressive Save Our Show campaign and explosion of fan culture when it ended after three seasons.

Part of the answer to your question is that there were like three things on TV at the time. What big fandoms? 'Parasocial' was about non-subculture people feeling warmly towards news anchors or hosts of variety shows or something, wasn't it?

LOTR got rediscovered in the 60s or 70s from what I hear, but science fiction and fantasy books were for fringe weirdoes. SFF was not mainstream for the most part. There are a bunch of History of Book SF Fandom things on Youtube, and you should consult them on the complex role of LOTR in that space. LOTR wasn't a mainstream thing until there were live action movies a billion years later.

The key about Star Trek is that it was a hit with the pre-existing book SF crowd. They were an organized subculture. Some of their favorite writers wrote episodes. Other shit on TV was for people who did not form subcultures in that way. Other shit for SF fans had an audience 1/10,00th the size.

MFU was insanely popular. Illya Kuryakin was the heartthrob of a certain era of girl and inspired many a Russian major. (Seriously, there are soooo many Russia-boos of a certain age who probably still have a poster of him somewhere.) The actor set a record for fanmail. The show may have more influence on fandom history than we think now, but it also didn't rerun the way Trek did, at least in some eras, and it didn't have sequel series in a franchise. I'm always finding 2015 movie fans shocked that there's a still extant and semi-active fandom—or even shocked that the movie is based on something.

Starsky & Hutch was also hugely important and is the moment slash fandom and "Media Fandom" really split from book SF fandom. As Trek fans moved on to buddy cops, they were into a completely mainstream show but in a non-mainstream way. Trek was an awkward bedfellow at SF cons, but S&H just didn't fit at all.

Of course, while Trek is the grandma of AO3 type fandom, don't forget that a shitton of modern fans who are doing "research" just look at the same few sources. Enterprising Women is great and all, but even other fans of the same stuff are like "Oh, that was just X's friends. Where's [thing] and [thing] and [thing]?" Ditto Textual Poachers and the other scant early sources that people think have academic weight.

While Trek would still be central, the picture of what was going on in the late 60s-early 80s would look a bit different if you just found a bunch of 70-something nerds and asked them than if you regurgitate other people's research, you know?

If you want an idea of what else was going on in SF fandom back in the day, check out Galactic Journey, where they roleplay that it's 55 years ago and review SF things "as they come out".

If you want to understand MFU, here's a vid of Illya:

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What say you, readers?

What have acafandom and fandom history and meta left out?

[citrusraindrops]

Male abusers often call themselves victims; The spread of the myth of (equally prevalent) female abusers directly harms female victims, because it means their partners' lies are believed by police and other authorities. And the myth of anti-male bias in courts stymies female victims as they try to escape their abusers.

I'm going to recommend once again Why Does he do That? by Lundy Bancroft. In chapter two, Bancroft writes:

Even if abused men didn't want to come forward, they would have been discovered by now. Neighbors don’t turn a deaf ear to abuse the way they might have ten or twenty years ago. Now, when people hear screaming, objects smashing against walls, loud slaps landing on skin, they call the police. Among my physically abusive clients, nearly one-third have been arrested as a result of a call to the police that came from someone other than the abused woman. If there were millions of cowed, trembling men out there, the police would be finding them. Abusive men commonly like to play the role of victim, and most men who claim to be “battered men” are actually the perpetrators of violence, not the victims.

From chapter 12:

A remarkable number of judges grant restraining orders to abusers to use against their victims or grant mutual orders, which validate the abuser’s claim that his partner shares responsibility for causing his scary behavior ... I have also worked with many [probation officers] who buddy up to the abuser with a wink and a nod, who bond with him in the belief that there exists an anti-male bias in the court system and who signal him that he needn’t take the abuser program seriously by saying things such as: “Just show up to your required number of group meetings and we’ll get you right off probation.”

From Chapter 3:

The abuser’s highly entitled perceptual system causes him to mentally reverse aggression and self-defense. When Tanya attempted to defend herself against Emile’s life-threatening attack, he defined her actions as violence toward him. When he then injured her further, he claimed he was defending himself against her abuse. The lens of entitlement the abuser holds over his eye stands everything on its head.

One of my areas of specialization is court-related work involving abusers who are physically violent or who abuse their children. I frequently encounter court personnel who say: “Well, she accuses him of abusing her, but he denies it.” They then drop the matter, as if the man’s denial closes the case. They also tell me: “He says she does the same things to him, so I guess they abuse each other.” This kind of denial and cross-accusation tells us nothing about whether the woman is telling the truth. If the man is abusive, of course he is going to deny it, partly to protect himself and partly because his perceptions are distorted. If he were ready to accept responsibility for his actions in relationships, he wouldn’t be abusive. Breaking through denial and minimization is one of the main tasks facing an abuse counselor. Most of the men in my groups admit to some abusive behavior —although they don’t see it as abusive, of course— but they acknowledge only a small portion of what they have actually done, as I learn when I interview the abused partners.

Abusive men push and push against a woman's boundaries in a relationship, breaking her down, and when she tries to defend herself against abuse or speaks out in any way he uses it as evidence that she is irrational and that she is the abuser. We unfortunately saw this happen to Gabby Petito and Amber Heard. In both cases when the victim was pushed past her limits and showed emotion at being abused, it was used as evidence that they were abusive.

Domestic violence is more common in lesbian relationships than it is in heterosexual relationships.

the point is that in heterosexual relationships men and women are equally likely to initiate DV. When examining female only relationships they are more likely to suffer violence than male only relationships.

Researchers theorise women initiate violence more often because society tends to ignore female violence and punish male violence harshly. They see no downside. This effect is magnified in female only relationships.

This info is not intended to put anyone down.

To add to this, heterosexual DV is still going to be more common than lesbian DV based purely upon the number of heterosexual couples when compared to lesbian couples. This isn’t to put down lesbians, it’s a statistic that I’m not too sure if it’s still liable or not.

So, apparently I need a frequently asked questions page ... or something.

You are wrong anon; these statements are factually incorrect.

Domestic violence is NOT more common in lesbian relationships. (And the larger post for context.)

Men and women do NOT have similar rates of domestic violence. (See, also, this post.)

People support/fail to support male/female victims and condemn/fail to condemn male/female perpetrators at similar rates. (Also see this post and this post.)

There is also no evidence of a criminal sentencing disparity caused by sex.

"This info is not intended to put anyone down." -> Yes, I am sure you came to this blog where I discuss the pandemic of male violence against women to claim that, against all substantial, overwhelming, evidence to the contrary women are actually more violent than men to be ... friendly.

Male violence in heterosexual relationships is higher in both absolute and relative terms (see above).

"it’s a statistic that I’m not too sure if it’s still liable or not" -> I'm guessing you meant either "reliable" or "viable", in either case, it was never reliable, or viable, or true. It's a homophobic, misogynistic myth perpetuated by malice and poor understanding of statistics.

[tgrailwar-zero]

FRAN: "Uuhh!"

She waved goodbye as you headed out, having made the choice to leave the resting MORDRED in FRAN's care. Thus, you left the Point of Sealing.

Leaving it seemed easier than coming in. It also didn't seem to take as long. You walked upwards through the path, and while it was a bit of a trek, it didn't feel as heavy.

Eventually, you made it outside.

SALIERI: "Well, that was a busy…"

He looked up at the sky, brows raising slightly as the sun shone down through the trees. The feeling was understandable- it had felt like you had spent hours down there. Days, even.

SALIERI: "…Morning? Hm. We still have the rest of the day ahead of us."

KUKULKAN: "Ah- feel that breeze!"

It was nice being back in fresh air again. This place wasn't as bright or cheerful compared to the rest of Sunbeam Row, but it was a drastic departure from the oppressive atmosphere of the Point of Sealing.

NERO: "I feel like I can finally stretch again..."

NERO: "Hm? What's that sound?"

You heard some aggressive voices speaking through the brush.

Following the path towards commotion you heard off in the distance, you saw a scene off to the side, several assassins with their blades drawn, surrounding a young woman. You recognized her, vaguely. For one, she was a fox- one of the foxes, one of the entities that called themselves 'TAMAMO'.

Secondly, you had seen her briefly at SIGURD's banquet. The current acting Priestess, ARIA.

One of the assassins brandished a dagger.

ASSASSIN: "Really, are you a fool? A young lady as important as yourself, just wandering around in the wilderness. With all of the commotion that Saber is making, killing you will drive the tensions in the Solar Cell to a fever pitch! But-- uh, seriously, you didn't bring any guards or anything? You just came out here alone?"

PRIESTESS ARIA: "Well, you know what the say… if you haven't seen a person in three days, then you should pay careful attention to them… or something like that, right? And since everyone's attention is all over the place, I wanted to bring everyone back on track, so I decided to try and vanish for three days so that attention would come back to the Priestess and people would feel good again…"

PRIESTESS ARIA: "It's only been three hours… and it seems like people are looking closer to me if I'm being found like this by so many people… so I think I'm on the right track."

ASSASSIN: "I mean… I think that if you went missing for three days, people would look for you, but that isn't what that proverb means."

PRIESTESS ARIA: "Oh… so I shouldn't have wandered away from the Imperial Palace?"

ASSASSIN: "Well, of course not! Listen, young ladies aren't supposed to wander about like that. Especially not so close to the Point of Sealing, isn't this one of the most dangerous areas in the Solar Cell?"

There were some murmurs from the other assassins.

ASSASSIN: "A naive girl like yourself needs to at least have an entourage before you just blithely wander about."

ASSASSIN: "Right… there's a ton of dangerous stuff out here. You should get back home. Do you remember where it is?"

PRIESTESS ARIA: "I think so. Thank you very much, Lord Ninja."

She turned, beginning to wander away in the opposite direction, as the ASSASSIN's stood and watched. One of them stepped forward, nudging their leading Assassin on the arm.

ASSASSIN: "…Zayd."

The lead ASSASSIN watched the PRIESTESS walk, looked down at his knife, then back at the PRIESTESS, before suddenly shouting--

ASSASSIN: "Gah! W-Wait! You wait right there, girlie! Don't move a muscle!"

PRIESTESS ARIA: "I thought you said I could leave?"

ASSASSIN: "No, you can't leave! We're here to kill you!"

PRIESTESS ARIA: "You are…? Well that's rather scary… can you do it another time, when I'm more prepared?"

You... weren't really sure if this was an urgent situation or not.

KUKULKAN: "What… is happening over there? Should we go help?"

SALIERI: "I'm not entirely sure. I can't tell if she's in control of the situation, or if she's entirely lost the plot..."

NERO: "...Let's just observe for now."

One of the Assassins looked over, before nudging their leader on the arm again, as he looked over.

ASSASSIN: "Gah! She has reinforcements! Fine- we'll retreat... for now! But don't get too cocky, Priestess! And don't wander alone after dark, you could get hurt! I mean… uh, actually, you should do that! Ugh, my head hurts! Assassins, we're going!"

…And like that, they left, disappearing into the shadows.

The PRIESTESS looked over in your direction, before calmly toddling over. She moved without any real sense of worry or urgency, just ambling about like she had all the time in the world.

PRIESTESS ARIA: "…Hello there. Thank you kindly for saving my life, brave heroes."

[arkiwii]

I don't agree with you about the state of sarisil in the fandom, but we both like it and it's fun to see how enthusiastic you get over it.

I guess it depends on how you like it! I personally tend to get quite picky unfortunately, but it's how it is. I've seen a lot of content (mostly from the global community) that represented them in a way I don't like (having them be exes, focusing entirely on "divorced" rather than their self trust and how it plays in their relationship, showing Ifrit as just a dumb child who knows nothing of what is going on...). the best representations I have seen so far were in the CN community (not to say everyone in the global is doing wrong! there's really good content! I'm just saying the majority is in CN) and a lot of it made me think about the characters and how to play with them to make them the most interesting possible while staying true to canon. it can sound like my vision is very specific, but I assure it is not, lot of people get it!

also, what I say applies to content (fanfics and fanarts, but also memes, specifically), as they're easily engaged with and spread around. so if it simplifies the characters, or show them different, people who have not looked themselves into them and made their own opinion will let themselves influenced, which leads to wrong beliefs (I already have someone who only looked at their relationship from afar argue to me that "Saria should just explain to Silence that she did not know about the document she signed, and they'll forgive each other", insisting that "they're super dumb for not just talking it out". no, it's not that easy. that Saria signed the document is FAR from being the actual issue.)

once again, it doesn't apply to everyone, and thankfully, most people on Tumblr seem to share a vision similar to me (hence why I enjoy this place). however, on Twitter or Reddit, it's another place. I check many different websites and look about everywhere, I see what the majority thinks and that's why I'm kinda bugged about it. well, of course, it concerns every character and relationships, anyway. can't escape it

but I do hope I'm doing them justice, really! they're seriously important to me (I guess it was obvious that they're huge comfort characters to me), so I wouldn't forgive myself if I mischaracterize them (and I know I did by the past, when I just started to get into Arknights), and I hope other people can enjoy them just as equally

[thenwethrowitonthefire]

Shout-out to everyone who survived a "fun" easter with the family

[elizabeaufort]

⸻ Claude smile after the slap he got from his wife, he never let anyone touch him but Stella. He recalls the day she broke his arm. God knows what he did when he made her a woman because if Stella was a man, Claude is certain she would be so patched from head to toe, for being feisty. She may be short but her aggressivity is beyond her, in Claude's point of view. ❛ Glad you recognized you were shitty, mon amour. Go on your broom, back to Australia. Au revoir. ❜ He mumbled at Stella and then looked at Viv. ❛ Vivster my love, my wife, I mean, ex-wife is a psycho. Did you know she ran away from an asylum? Please don't take anything seriously from that mouth of hers. ❜ He warns Viv, before making his way to his place.

Elizabeth had no idea that Viviene was Alex's mother and Luke as well. As much as she knew a bit about the woman, she never saw her face or any pictures for that matter. She only knew her from words and tales, Luke had mentioned his biological mother but not much details either. She genuinely imagined she was just a member who visits the church and does good voluntary work. ⎯ After the hug, she felt him taking her hand, she was sad. She couldn't believe, the man who did all the wrongings in her life, was the one she forgave for all his flaws, was the one who fuck her over. She couldn't even handle to see the face of her father. ❛ How do you know I'm pregnant with twins? ❜ She inquired giving a quizzical glance at him, she does not recall in the outburst or even mentioning anyone she was pregnant. Everyone knew she was pregnant, except nobody knew the gender or how many, only the one who lived with her closely.

❛ It is not your fault. My father is my father… And my mother… If she hasn't changed from what she was when I was little… I see she is still very feisty. ❜ She starts. ❛ If you stay here for a little longer, you can't meet my children. Just don't talk about colors with them. They're colorblind. But they're funny. Lilou is clever, and Beau lacks intelligence at times, but he has unique humor. ❜

──Stella slapped him across the face as soon as they were out of the apartment, far enough for any argument to be out of her father��s earshot, too. “I may have been a fucking awful mother, but you were downright nasty for what you did to her!” she told him, she was confused, angry, and overwhelmed. all those years, she had spent under the impression that her father was not aware of Liz’s existence, and that turned out to be a lie. Not only he had known all along, but he had, apparently, also been sending her funds to help her have a comfortable life —funds that Claude admitted to putting to other uses; anything but her, who was the rightful recipient. Stella felt her father’s pain, too, upon hearing that he had spent a lifetime thinking he was helping his granddaughter, taking care of her, and she hadn’t had a single clue of his existence for anything other than him not wanting her. She blinked at the thought. “and you, bitch,” she pointed at Vivienne, “don’t think this is over!” she threatened before turning around and walking away.

up in the apartment, Alex left to check on Luke and the twins once he made sure she was alright, and it was evident she didn’t feel uncomfortable in the presence of her grandfather —even when he met him in the hallway, the older man gave him the impression of coming over with genuine intentions; he truly believed that he was expected since he had informed Claude that he would be arriving. as it, unfortunately, turned out, this gathering had been more than they had bargained for; there was still the question what Vivienne was doing there, too, but he wouldn’t bring this up to Liz any time soon —it was not of importance when she had just gotten such shocking information; and he didn’t think she would intentionally invite her to her home —he may not share much of his past, but Liz is not stranger to how strained his relationship is with his mother, how terrible she had been too all of the ( she even sold Luke, literally, something Alex had shared with Liz when he told her that Luke is his younger brother ).

John’s attention was fully focused on his granddaughter once her man walked away to leave them alone. though surprised by the embrace, it was an unwelcome one; his arms wrapped around her, holding her tightly; protectively. he felt awful he was, in a way, the reason for her outburst, finding out the truth had been equally shocking to him, he had thought he was helping her all those years; what a fool he had been. he nodded, listening to her, and slipped in the space beside her when she made some space. “don’t think about them,” he said, taking her hand in his and giving a firm squeeze. “they may be your parents, my darling, but they are awful at that…” he sighed quietly. “focus on yourself now,” a smile formed on his lips, though pained at first, a little brighter as he added a “for both you and your little ones you carry.” he knew that he was a great-grandpa, but it was still emotional to him to hear that she was pregnant —and both his daughter and her ex-husband did not respect that. a part of him wanted to ask if he could meet the twins, but for now, he didn't. he squeezed her hand.

“I hoped meeting you would be under better circumstances,” he admitted, tone almost guilty for blaming himself for all this ruckus.

[born-to-lose]

Interesting how one week with a disrespectful, lazy, stupid, rude, know it all coworker who's 5 years younger than me and doesn't know shit but somehow got in through nepotism can make my blood boil so hard I threw up three times in the past two days and got ulcers, yet while I was working as a bartender and had to deal with rude drunkards who overstepped boundaries and had to be escorted out by security or had the police called on them, I was pretty chill about it and got over it shortly after

[andromedasummer]

oh christ ive just remembered. my sister's a massive yuki fan. now you may think "oh well liv youre autistic so once she finds out what happened she—" shes a diehard max stan as well. she gets upset whenever i/others bring up his ableism and brushes it off. it does not matter how many times i try to explain to her how this hurts. when i say allistic people choose their comfort over addressing ableism every single time i say it with experience. these next few days are going to be fucking miserable. ive half a mind to go over to my friends this is going to be unbearable i dont want to go through this.

[heavierthanlaila]

allah surely is the most merciful and he truly does listen to your duaas and he indeed answers all of them.

[tatsumi-rin]

Yeah no my family still use my deadname when talking to one another when they think I don't hear

No wonder they struggle so much with getting my name and pronouns right

But don't you know it's so hard to get used to after so many months

And I am so aggressive when correcting them

[demonic-shadowlucifer]

Anyways. If you have to resort to either: -Shaming someone for their interests, appearance, etc. -Sending threats to someone. -Sending *vile shit to someone*. -Being bigoted to someone. -Doxxing someone. If you have to resort to ANY OF THAT in order to make a "point". Guess what? I'm not going to have any fucking sympathy for you when the person you're harassing decides to bite back. You did this to yourself. If you can't take it, don't dish it.

[that-was-anticlimactic]

actually, no. you know what? i am so sick of this “marinette is just a friend” bs. okay. cool. adrien said she was just a friend a few times. whatever. it’s not that big of a deal and everyone in the mlb fandom like. hyperfixates on that??? idc if it’s a “just a joke” because it’s utterly ridiculous at this point. i have literally seen people go on heated rants about how stupid or clueless adrien was during the umbrella scene because he called mari just a friend. are you kidding me??? y’all are really going to take away that moment for him? he just made like his first ever friend in nino and when he called her a friend, he looked so excited because this boy has only ever had one friend before. of course he’s going to call mari just a friend because he just met her and the only time she’s actually spoken to him outside of the suit at this point is to yell at him like... y’all...

and this is not me hating on mari because i love her so so so much. i just hate how passionate and heated fans get about this. i mean... y’all... adrien didn’t even think mari liked him??? like, in puppeteer two, he is literally upset because he came to the conclusion that mari hates him. also, of course he’s not like in love with or crushing on her when she’s barely spoken actual sentences to him! again, not me hating on mari and her nerves because like i get it, it’s hard. and also this is like adrien’s first time interacting with people as peers, so 1. of course romance is not his main priority 2. he doesn’t understand social cues or situations very well At All which is made abundantly clear in the show 3. i don’t... i don’t think adrien knows what affection is??? i mean, he’s definitely learned some over the course of the show, but he’s used to a neglectful / abusive father, his stoic assistant, his bodyguard who doesn’t really talk like at all, chloé being chloé, and hoards of fans declaring that they’re in love with him, hanging all over him, acting like he’s a shiny thing rather than a person, etc... so like. how is adrien supposed to actually comprehend that mari likes him???

and okay no my last point: so so so sick of the double standard. i have seen countless people rant and rave and scream and shout about how stupid adrien is for not returning mari’s feelings or knowing he has a crush on her and then these same people will turn around and berate chat noir and say things like “gosh ladybug isn’t obligated to return his feelings:/” like... hELLO??? why is ladybug not obligated while adrien is??? it’s ridiculous and disgusting and i’m so so so tired of “just a friend” jokes on tumblr, in art, in fics, in youtube compilations... like... can’t we be normal about this? and i don’t mean normal as in “casually enjoy” i mean normal as in can we stop being so aggressive and harsh and hostile towards literal fourteen year olds my God they’re children they’re allowed to make mistakes and mess up and my God the way y’all talk about lila is disgusting, too like i hate her but i don’t want her tortured and killed??? and the way people characterize the classmates as physically and verbally assaulting mari because of lila??? like... my God they would never??? they would all honestly side with mari chameleon is a bad episode and is poorly written and everyone is out of character please use your critical thinking skills and understand that chat noir is not harassing ladybug anymore than mari may be harassing adrien (aka they are not harassing each other at all my God) and stop insulting and demonizing fourteen year olds so your otp can get together thanks

[uber-gender]

why is "chronosion" or whatever on thin ice? i view it as similar to how system members can have different ages from the body + singlets who are permanently age reg/progressed (or ageless or whatever else). is it the association/branching off of "transage" (and the association of "transage" with pedo/4chan crap or the community it harvested and being buddy-buddy with pedos and all that crap) that makes it uncomfortable? or something else im missing? (i assume its not the experience itself because you guys are 8-10 and 16-ageless but i might be wrong because i have bad theory of mind)

yeah, it's the connection between chronosian and "transage" and how people often use them interchangeably. the creator of chronosian is opposed to "transage" and other "transx/transid" identities, but we still suggest checking the op tags and blog when reblogging chronosian identities because mogai tumblr is infamously bad at research and respect.

additionally, at least to me (rev), the concept of "identifying as a different age than the body" in general is very unsettling when used outside of specific plural settings. the creator of chronosian explains in this post that neurodivergent people may identify as chronosian because of how we mature differently, and while they do provide disclaimers in an attempt to fend off ableists, I believe that the association is still potentially dangerous. the creation of microlabels for different expressions of chronosian identity also seems to me like a trivialization of the material reality of age. as a Claudia, I find it helpful to sometimes identify as an 8-10 year old, since my emotions and personality will never fully mature. however, I also identify as a 26 year old who is fully capable of harming others as an adult and is able to consent to sex with other adults. I think it is important even as a syskid or a regressor to keep a solid grasp on your real physical age, both for the safety and comfort of others and for your own self-concept.

HOWEVER, I do think that the basic terminology of "chronosian" is helpful, and would identify as it. also, ETMK is not as serious as I am about this and does not have any criticism of chronosian other than finding the word itself "sort of dorky". so that's what we mean by "on thin ice".

tl;dr, we are overall ok with chronosian as long as it is divorced from "transage", but one of us has some friendly criticism about it.

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[jimingyue]

Cat Tumblr Dashboard Simulator

🖋️ meowful-musings Follow

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what's wrong with dry food??? my humans feed me it all the time and i think it's fine

💀 elusivehider-deactivated948204

op wheres the natural feeding option

🌲 outdoorsy Follow

you guys are getting fed?

#im a barn cat so maybe im missing something here #meowtthew don't look

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☀️ pawsitive-affurmations Follow

ITS OKAY TO BE A MOGGIE

ITS OKAY TO BE A MOGGIE

YOU ARE NOT LESS VALID IF YOU ARE NOT A SPECIFIC PEDIGREE!!!!!

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extra special shout out to cats who have "common" coat colors. grey tabbies and black cats i am rubbing against your head affectionately <3

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as a grey tabby i really needed to hear this :"3

#i feel like i never see positivity posts for moggies even tho we're the most common type of cat....

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i cant believe there are cats ACTUALLY advocating for kittens to be separated from their mothers before 12 weeks??? kittens still need to learn how to interact with other cats before being placed into their furever home omg you guys know you're advocating for undersocialized and aggressive cats right

❤️ loving-paws284 Follow

um op some of us??? matured early??????? i was separated from my mother at 7 weeks and i turned out fine... interesting how you assume that kittens being separated from their mothers at a younger age will lead to the degeneracy of the next generation...hmm i wonder where i've heard that before...

🐈 fluffy-the-cat Follow

OP got bit too hard during a play-fight as a kitten and it shows XD

🐟 tunafeesh Follow

also op have you ever considered that just because somecat is kind of scared and unable to deal with strange cats or humans, it doesn't mean they don't deserve to be adopted?? you sound like a vet psyop honestly

🎵 rage-against-the-meowchine Follow

oh meow god saying that kittens should be fully weaned before leaving their mother is NOT veterinarian rhetoric and i never said that they deserve to be euthanized!!! my mother literally died when i was 3 weeks old and it seriously messed up my development so stop putting words in my mouth, thanks

anyway friendly reminder that underweaned kittens are prone to illness and often struggle with basic cat behaviors like litterbox usage, and in some nyavinces it's even considered kitten abuse

#discourse #cant believe "kitten abuse is bad" is controversial now

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🍃 naturalliving Follow

BORN TO DIE

WORLD IS A FUCK

猫神 Kill Em All 1989

I am trash cat

410,757,864,530 DEAD BIRDS

#outdoorliving #outdoorcats please interact #outdoorcat friendly

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🎣 salmonpurina Follow

can't believe cats are uncritically reblogging that born to die world is a fuck post. i know it's funny but op is literally an outdoor cat truther

#like cmon now you just have to go to their blog #lulu speaks

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💀 tabbystripes-deactivated098712

gentle reminder that pushing cups off the table is not cute and can cause a lot of distress in your human!!!! gentle reminder that our teeth and claws can easily hurt them more than they can hurt us!!!!

🐰 evil-tabbystripes Follow

evil reminder that the cup should always be pushed off the table. evil reminder that you should always bite and claw at your human no matter what. you can do whatever you want forever

💀 tabbystripes-deactivated098712

make your own pawst

💀 laser-point-deactivated8574721

umm i know a tomcat who did that and his human ended up putting him down so...

👬🏻 nyasunaruenjoyer Follow

Nyaverage shelter cat behavior

#not nyaruto #re-nyab #pickles shut up

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🌈 nyaoi-warrior Follow

saw two male cats sleeping together on the porch today. homeow behavior imo

💡 discourse-meows Follow

hey um what the fuck??? it's really not okay of you to go assuming other cat's sexualities, especially cats you don't even know???? as a queer cat i'm VERYY uncomfortable. real-ass cats didn't consent to your nyaoi fetish, thanks

🌈 nyaoi-warrior Follow

1. i was making. a joak

2. i'm literally gay???

#literally what's your pawblem

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🎩 amazingcatshow12 Follow

reblog if you've ever caught the laser pointer

🎩 amazingcatshow12 Follow

i know you fuckers are lying

🍭 gaykittens Follow

this tom hasn't caught the laser pointer

🎩 amazingcatshow12 Follow

shut the heull up

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🐾 b-e-a-n-t-o-e-s Follow

grey toebeans >>>>>>>>> pink toebeans and don't let the haters make you believe otherwise

🐁 ladymouser Follow

op shut the fuck up ALL toebeans are beautiful!!! just bc you're miserable and insecure doesn't mean you can bring others down based on things they can't control

🐾 b-e-a-n-t-o-e-s Follow

oh so the cat-human separationist wants to preach to us