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Mc: *sneezes*
Mammon, leaning towards Levi, whispering: What does it mean when humans do that?
Levi, whispering back: I think they just took a screenshot
#“but the demons in game sneeze too—”#okay and#when has canon ever stopped me#/silly#i just think it’s way funnier if the different species have these stupid differences#(see my ‘demons can’t eat salt’ hc)#obey me#obey me shall we date#obey me nightbringer#obey me mc#obey me mammon#obey me leviathan#obey me incorrect quotes#obey me crack#om! shall we date#om! mc#om! mammon#om! leviathan
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Applebeauty (the bad ending)

#guess who rewatched eeaao for mother’s day😃#anyway in this verse apple has already lived out her story#and briar is on her way to prick her finger and enter her sleep#so they’re saying their goodbyes yk#anyway yeah saw this scene again and lost my shit when i thought this idea up#so if i have to suffer so do all of u 🫶#ever after high#eah#apple white#briar beauty#applebeauty#brapple#fanart#my art tag#technically their canon ending also counts as the bad ending tho which is so!!! im fine!!!!!#they grow apart and stop being best friends and find love in other places!!!! which is fine w me!!!!!!!!
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"... 'make you one of us?' the accent thickened, giving a fine lilt to the words. 'why would i do that?' eyes narrowing. 'i would not do that to those whom i find to be despicable, whom i would see burning in hell as a matter of course. so why should i do it to an innocent fool-like you?' ..."
anne rice's the story of daniel / the devil's minion / or the boy from the interview with the vampire
#if ep4 has shattered me#ep5 is gonna annihilate me out of existence ig#devil's minion TRUTHERS we will not survive it#when has canon ever stopped me?#*falls down to my knees*#PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE#devil's minion#armandaniel#daniel molloy#old man daniel#old man daniel molloy#young daniel molloy#armand x daniel molloy#armand x daniel#armanddaniel#interview with the vampire#iwtv spoilers#interview with the vampire spoilers#interview with the vampire s2#iwtv s2#amc interview with the vampire#amc iwtv
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it doesnt need to be said but its genuinely so funny how at-the-hip charles and erik are in krakoa like they really had the green light- the OBLIGATION- to be as obnoxiously close to each other as possible and abused that right to the fullest extent
#xmen#xmen comic#krakoa#cherik#snap chats#until the divorce of course but until then its actually so funny#how you really couldnt go a page or two without one or the other and the other one was close behind#ice climber ass duo over here. the delightful children from down the lane kind of proximity what the fuck was their PROBLEM#i feel like if one of them was teleported the other would just materialize right next to them thats how close they were#fuuuck what was the issue where sabretooth and co are in like. Brain Prison or something#and victor imagines charles but everyones like 'wait its weird if its just him where's magneto'#ITS SO FUCKING FUNNY and i NEED to know what issue that was .... to add it to my collection ....#also killed me how in immoral x-men issue 1 charles was yappin bout erik bein gone#and- God Bless Who i forget i think it was hope- was just 'can you please shut up about your dead boyfriend im begging you'#moira stronger than me if i had to deal with thing 1 and thing 2 on a daily basis i woulda snapped sooner frankly#ig when you live ten times through The Most Bullshit ever youre numb to most things but still. my god theyre so obnoxious#sorry im cackling at the bit in HoX where charles is about to announce krakoa to the world and erik's putting his hand on his shoulder#and you justs see moira in the back like dawgggg right in front of her .... can you two get a room#GENUINELY no im GENUINELY surprised they dont share a bedroom#im not even talking sharing a bed im taking my shipper goggles off im actually baffled they dont sleep in the same building#obvi id be lyin if i said i didnt love it tho To Be Real .. genuinely love seein them work together as a team .. until they werent </3#in every timeline they WILL divorce each other that's just the rule. actual canon event it cannot be changed or stopped its integral#ok ramble over. but not really not in spirit cause ill never be over this ill die before i am#im gonna go eat now i think i think thats something i As A Human has to do at least once a day
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life is hard for us oz fans who are only meh about wicked. have half a meme.
#it's not even that i dislike boq as a character - he's fine. i think galinda is the most intriguing of the musical esp in her relationship#with power and how that relates to her relationships with other people. but boq is fine#i am just SO fucking tired of conflating boq wicked with nick chopper baum books#that's not my tin woodman. and i don't want him to be. nick (unlike many oz characters) has a very specific and set backstory#he has a whole damn book about it ffs#and boq is such a different character in terms of role symbolism and personality that i just cannot see him as even an au version of nick#fiyero too to be completely honest. though his mischaracterization doesn't bother me quite as much bc i read the book and he is rather#intriguing as a separate character - i don't love him in the musical tho. anyways specifically calling boq the tin woodman and saying#all the baum book stuff happened to him is so irritating to me because they are not at all the same. and nick is one of my favorite charas#in any media ever. idk. no hate if you like boq ofc and i don't want to stop you from having fun with the characters#i just am getting tired of the greater oz fandom latching on to wicked as fleshing out the baum or mgm characters. it's an entirely#different world. (and yes we can discuss the fact that wicked is intended to be canon compliant with the 39 film - but once again it's#a stretch to say it fits the charas. and that isn't the issue i have here.)#anyways. sorry. i'm just tired of wicked = boq = nick stuff#esp im annoyed at the fiyero and boq blorbo-ifying i see when the women of this musical are far more interesting and proactive#boq and fiyero are just furniture/pawns in the great drama that is elphaba's life and the way she pulls glinda into it with her#but WHATEVER i DIGRESS and shit. ignore this. whatever#it's the way people attempt to reconcile a lot of non-compliant media into whichever one they like the best. which is all fun and games#i am just being a hater. ok? this is me being a hater.#analysis#wizard of oz#wicked#wicked musical#toast talks oz#toasty talks
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Okay but if Arin *does* go to the evil side I need it to be for multiple (in universe) years. At the very least one season. I need him to grow older while he’s in that dark place and every time the ninja, including his old best friend, see him again he looks a little bit different. Grown a little bit taller. After that he can go back to goodness idc but I just need for a substantial passage of time between when we first get to know the kid Arin that bakes pies for dogs in ep1 and when a much older Arin with years of fighting and trauma on his back gets to maybe return to those he once called family.
#this is in fact canon to me btw#like i know we haven’t even gotten to just evil arin yet but i want it to be for a long time#not just ‘’oh no he’s turning evil! here’s some heartfelt words to instantly bring him back!’’#no i want this kid to be manipulated and gaslit in a way where nothing can turn him back#unless it’s like. his parents or smth.#i want to draw angst of this so badly but i shouldn’t when i don’t even know if evil arin is real yet liahgsdhjk#but when has that ever stopped me? eh.#ninjago#lego ninjago#ninjago dragons rising#ninjago dr#dragons rising#ninjago spoilers#evil arin#arin ninjago#ninjago arin#dragons rising arin
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Sophie Oliveira-Shepard Alenko-Oliveira and Kaidan Alenko-Oliveira - ME3 (3/?) "What would I do without you?" "You'll never have to find out." Mass Effect 3: Legendary Edition (2021)
#mira makes gifs ✨#sophie shepard#kaidan alenko#shenko#mass effect#mass effect 3#me3#dailygaming#otp: you’re real enough for me#i've got shenko on the brain this week so i'm back with more gifs :) carlot this time baby!#this set is just a little bit important to me since carlot was the first thing i ever made gifs of :)#and it's cool to see how different soph looks in the like... year it's been since the last time i made gifs of it#how much closer i've been able to get her to the version of her that exists in my head and put that actually in game. it's nice for me :)#ANYWAYS - THE RANT (as usual)#the reason why soph doesn't have a lot of banter is because her brain fritzed out when kaidan showed up in infiltrator armor :)#that's the set she always wears so her brain started making dial up noises when he showed up with it on :)#something something thigh holster arms and definitely ass#conversely kaidan also flipped his shit when showed up in thigh high boots and a leather jacket#it's just the spider-man pointing meme of them losing their shit at what the other person is wearing and trying to focus but failing#kaidan's little nickname comment is because she has a very specific nickname for him that she always uses :)#it's bússola :) compass in portuguese since that's what she got her little tattoo behind her ear for :)#i've always hc'ed the citadel DLC as after TRW. this is probably pretty soon after it with cat-6 wanting to move in during recovery efforts#and something something soph chops all her hair off during her recovery for undisclosed reasons#anywho carlot isn't the most canon since they meet up earlier together and dom is the one they meet on the carlot but i love carlot so :)#we're going to pretend that kaidan is carrying her cobra since giving him his eagle was a pain in the save i used for this lmao#i’ll stop using the tags as my canon TEDtalk space now :) have a good day like always friend 💙
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ok yk what. now that i’ve had some time to process nghy canon, considering the current pacing of gen retcon, i think their next step is as ✨clear as day✨

i really like seeing them happy together, but i truly do think that they should divorce and either live the rest of their lives as single besties; partners in hero/heroine-isms, but better off as just friends, or go their separate ways for a bit and get back together when they’re a little older and wiser, staying together for good this time around, as each other’s first and last boyfriend/girlfriend
#‘haven’t you had quite enough of pushing your divorce agendas??? like with lxl????’ no. never.#idk i think part of their charm was nagisa’s patience and genuine earnest love for hiyori#and hiyori’s determination to achieve her goals of becoming a true heroine in every sense of the word…#but the current pacing is kinda… um. i really love how nghy is now truly canon ofc. but… it feels too rushed?#like they’re just checking off a box on a ‘relationships to go’ checklist?#and nagisa’s sudden second confession? in a throwaway line? what was that all about man… when did that even happen? excuse?#i think it’d have been more meaningful if hiyori was the one to confess without any prompting (to lead to their relationship)…#and. uh. don’t take this the wrong way but… noontea seemed a little peer pressure-y to me.#it kinda felt like juri and chizu were pressuring hiyori into getting a bf… it’s been eating away at me ever since i tried to tl it. but.#…idk. point is. i think a relationship built on those foundations (peer pressure/fomo and a suddenly persistent guy(???)) is doomed to fail#and so i think nghy should divorce. maybe they’ll reconnect romantically in a few years#(fulfilling nagisa’s agreement to be hiyori’s ‘last bf’ as well as having been her ‘first bf’ during their first try at a relationship)#or they could just be besties till the end of time; having been each other’s hero and heroine once upon a time#ik hw doesn’t do breakups of their main couples (not since nakimushi kareshi eons ago i think…)#but i think they should give it another go for nghy. maybe it’d make their love story a little more compelling#and maybe we could all unite under the cheers of hoping that ng and hy get back together in the future as more mature adults…?#idk i just. think the ‘right person; wrong time’ trope could work for nghy#like how it went in sukiuso/heroika with nagisa’s failed confession#even then they were the right person for each other; it just wasn’t the right time for them to date (personal goals/long distance/etc)#so maybe. this time ‘round even though they’ve started dating circumstances could still pop up here and there and maybe…?#…but idk~~~~~~~~ maybe it’s just the 5am thoughts or something that’s finally putting my incoherent trains of thoughts into words…#point is!!!!!! the current pacing is awkward!!!!!!!!! nghy deserve better!!!!!!! and their love story needs to be treated with more care!!!!#idk are hw trying to speedrun nghy for h10w bc nghy’s. like. a mix of different features of their previous couples#which would make ‘em the perfect couple to bring h10w together(???) or something???#but idk. im still really really happy the nghy is canon but. there are some mixed feelings here and there too…#idk dudes this has gotten way too long for its own good so ig i’ll stop here…#live laugh love nghy canon but… i still think they should break up for *at least* a year or so to reasses their relationship#sorry nghy… it’s for your own good i swear… i truly want you to be happy together!!!! i really do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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This is far more severe than I imagined it would be.
#I can't stop thinking about flustering him ... he has a blush sprite--he canonically blushes and he looks so damn cute#and it's so subtle!!#his face darkens slightly instead of getting red‚ and I think it's the most adorable thing ever#I want to make him blush ... I want to hold his face in my hands and feel it warming up ...#agh ... how do I always end up in love with his IDs and E.G.O‚ even when I initially dislike them?#is it just a repeating cycle of me denying I like him followed by intense cuteness aggression ...?#I don't know‚ honestly--but I do know that he's is the cutest man I have ever seen and I *NEED* him#or‚ at least‚ I need to make him fidgety and flushed#r: remind my heart to beat 💢#scattered pages
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Me the other day: yeah yeah let's revisit that one bit at the end of Night Watch and have them STILL never quite properly address the bit where it sounds like Vetinari is trying to ask Vimes out
Me today when I have shit to do: but what if I write about them addressing it in a very thorough and physical manner though 👀
#four meetings and a therapy appointment today lol#and my brain is just going#'what if instead of having thoughts you had this in your head instead'#ETA: the funniest thing about this is that i am asexual and i think probably vetinari is meant to be ace in canon as well gjdhdbd#since when has either of THOSE things ever stopped me though
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THE BEST OF PRIORITY: TUCHANKA (PART 2)
Featuring: Cmdr. Sophie Shepard, Lt. James Vega, EDI, Urdnot Wrex, and Dr. Mordin Solus With: Urdnot Bakara And a Special Guest Appearance by: Kalros, Mother of All Thresher Maws I MADE A MISTAKE! I made a mistake... big picture made of little pictures- too many variables. Can't hide behind statistics... can't ignore new data- my responsibility. Need to go- running out of time. Not your work, not your cure- not your decision. Had to be me- someone else might have gotten it wrong... Mass Effect 3: Legendary Edition (2021)
#mira makes gifs ✨#sophie shepard#james vega#EDI#urdnot wrex#mordin solus#mass effect#mass effect 3#me3#mass effect legendary edition#dailygaming#i'm gonna continue the rambles in the part 2 gifset but one of the things i adore about tuchanka is the scenic shots#there are literally so many gorgeous ones that about half of part two is scenic shots because holy fuck tuchanka is beautiful#the kalros reaper ones especially? like those are so cool i had to include at LEAST a few of them bc that fight is awesome#and when the cure disperses?? literally the prettiest scene in the game#EDI and james have really cute dialogue together too!! i adored their moments towards the end of the mission#although i did say i was gonna give thoughts on mordin in sur'kesh and i think it boils down to him being an okay?? character in my book#like mordin definitely isn't one of my favorites but i will respect that he's definitely a very complex character and he's interesting imo#especially in terms of how he's written and his motivations/how he sort of grows and evolves over both ME2 and ME3#like the quote i subquoted the post with is the one you get when you try to stall him from going up into the tower#(so it's not from soph's canon- but i love the scene so i used it anyways)#and one of the things i really like is that you can see the switch from mordin in ME2 who argues that what he did was RIGHT#versus mordin in ME3 who is starting to see what was wrong in the context of all the new information he has#and for me- seeing a character who can grow to recognize that they're flawed and made mistakes- i can respect the HELL outta that#even if mordin isn't my favorite character in the trilogy i'm gonna give him massive props for his character growth arc#because it's always interesting to see someone grow and recognize their mistakes and find a way to be a better person#to own their mistakes and fix the shit that they fucked up#i don't think i'd ever choose the option to not cure the genophage but mordin will always get props from me for his character arc tbh#i'll stop rambling now! have a good day wherever you are <3
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three thousand years of longing (2022) / simone de beauvoir's inseraparable
#i know the old man yaoi tag hates to see me coming#but like wtf man even i didn't expect#the ottoman age gap old man yaoi to annihilate me like that#it got me so bad#that even though i'm no history buff#i'm still googling about the ottoman history#unfortunately my ottoman old man uke doesn't exist irl (or any recorded history)#but when has canon ever stopped me YK#murad iv (not the historical figure)#murad iv (three thousand years of longing)#the old man (three thousand years of longing)#murad iv x the old man#murad (three thousand years of longing)#the old storyteller (three thousand years of longing)#three thousand years of longing#three thousand years of longing (2022)
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WHAT THE HELL WHAT THE FUCK WHAT THE HGEAA WHAT WHATTTT AGHHHGGHHHH
So I’ve been digging around the Turtlepedia wiki, going through old tweets from the team who worked on Rise & watched videos covering the scrapped Rise episodes so this is basically a post going through some of the scrapped season 2 stuff for Rise that I have found:
Rise was first written under the basis of there being three seasons
JJ Conway’s twitter posted an episode guide which showed some of the episodes that were expected to be in season two:

As you can see ‘The Clothes Don’t Make the Turtle’ was one of the last episode that was released that fit the original plan for Season 2 before most of the episodes got scrapped or changed & the Rise team had to rush to finish the series.
Some of the episodes we know the synopsis of while others still remain a mystery the scrapped episodes were listed in order as:
Wedding Smashers:
This episode involves Mikey & Raph going undercover as pretend villains ‘Shady Bug & Dr Rude’ to sneak into Ghost Bear’s Wedding after they accidentally gifted Ghost Bear one of Donnie inventions (a black hole generating toaster) as a wedding gift that they then need to retrieve.
The episode was supposed to introduce the character Ghostpepper, Ghostbear’s fiancé
The episode also brings up some continuity in having the characters be aware that Meatsweats has been missing since the episode Pizza Puffs where he got kidnapped by ‘Shadow fiend’ at the end, I wish this episode hadn’t gotten scrapped because it shows that the Turtles are aware that their enemies are going missing when Big Mama starts kidnapping them for her Battle Nexus New York.
This episode most likely would have shown Ghostbear be kidnapped at the end like how Meatsweats was kidnapped at the end of Pizza Puffs & Hypno was kidnapped at the end of The Clothes Don’t Make the Turtle.
Warren Stone 2:
Donnie: Stand back total stranger we are fighting our greatest foe
April kept the arm that she cut off Warren in ‘Warren & Hypno Sitting in a Tree’ & the arm ended up growing into a second Warren Stone, despite April raising this second worm in secret Warren Stone Two ends up becoming the ‘turtles greatest foe’ after Warren Stone Two captures the Turtles, April & the original Warren Stone team up to save the Turtles & defeat Warren Stone 2
Parts of the episodes storyboards can be found on youtube, a running gag appears to be Mikey referring to Warren as ‘that other worm guy whose not Warren two’
T-Hex
The episode T-Hex covers Mikey desperately wanting a robotic toy but Splinter saying no & Mikey having to sneak the electronic pet into the lair. Though the robot is adorable Mikey learns that it’s not as innocent as it seems & is actually a trap set by Baxter, the episode would have introduced Baxter in an Albearto mech
Psyched Out
Shred Dead Redemption
After the events of Manny Unhappy Returns the Foot Shack has shut down, Foot Lieutenant & Foot Brute open up a cupcake shop selling flaming cupcakes called Fire and Icing which Raph wants to investigate
The episode would have involved the Turtles doing a stakeout, a chase scene & the Foot clan putting themselves at odds with Big Mama as they investigate if her new champion ‘Shadow fiend’ has a connection to the missing Shredder.
The Island of Dr. Noe
Dr. Noe, the evil dentist from Todd Scouts ends up kidnapping Raph & Leo ends up having to lead the team in order to rescue Raph & stop the evil dentist.
Something interesting about this episode is when the Rise team were discussing this scrapped episode it was revealed that Leo wasn’t supposed to become the Leader at the end of Season 2, that’s right the iconic ‘Blue You Are The Leader Now’ wasn’t originally supposed to happen, instead Leo was supposed to be pushed into roles where he had to take charge throughout season 2 & the season would end with Raph & Leo as co-leaders.
Battle Nexus NYC (a full 20 minute episode) which was used in the series as Battle Nexus New York, the main difference between the original plan & the episode we got is that originally instead of Cassandra taking the Shredder from Big Mamma, the Grand Nexus Hotel was supposed to have fallen into the Hidden City with both Big Mamma & Shredder leaving The Foot to have to venture into the hidden city to try & retrieve the Shredder.
Toddler Mutant Ninja Turtles
A Mikey focused episode where a ‘bank robbing immortal jellyfish’ zaps Raph, Leo & Donnie, turning them into Turtle Tots & making Mikey the oldest brother for the episode. The episode is said to be inspired by the 1987 series episode ‘Adventures in Turtle Sitting’
Dog Dale Afternoon
April’s friend Dale who we first see in ‘Hypno! Part Deux’ gets turned into a werewolf by a witch & Donnie & April team up to try & turn him back to normal
Bee Story
Goyles Just Want To Have Fun
Huginn & Muninn reunite with Draxum, only to be confused when they find him working as a lunch server. Not wanting Huggin & Muninn to know how soft he’s gotten since his redemption Draxum begs the Turtles to help him look good in front of his former minions.
Rampagin’ Raph
Mikey & Leo have become more skilled in using their mystic powers making Raph feel left behind so Raph tries to practice in secret only to end up stuck in his giant form, Raph goes to to Draxum for help who ends up separating Raph & his mystic projection however the mystic projection ends up rampaging through the city becoming bigger & more powerful with the more things it destroys leaving Raph to have come clean to his brothers about what happened so they can save city.
Hot Thrash
Gourd Almighty
Donnie grows a giant pumpkin for competition & has to have his brothers help him find a way to get the giant pumpkin out of the lair
Two pages of the episodes script were posted on Ron Corcillo’s twitter
A Spiders Web Widens
Hidden City Heroes
Gone Goat
Draxum walks out after having a fight with the family but then gets kidnapped by the Foot. While attempting to rescue Draxum, the family has no choice but to resolve their issues relating to him.
The Key (a full 20 minute episode)
Karai was supposed to be introduced in this episode, she was supposed to have a larger role training the Turtles & with the family spanning around 10 episodes but due to the Rise team rushing to finish the series most of Karai’s episodes were scrapped.
The rest of the episode titles were not finalised however Ron Carney’s twitter posted a schedule board where possible episode titles can be seen.
Though Ron Carney also admitted that some of these titles are fake, the episode April Showers Mayhem Flowers might be real as the team admitted to wanting to do an episode about Mayhem & their status as an agent of the Council of Heads
The Return of Monty Moose is also probably real as we can see Monty Moose appear in the Rise Movie’s scrapped intro so the team probably had plans for the character in season 2


Monty Moose is a toy line only character from the 1987 series so Rise introducing him as an actual character is kind of cool
#I WANT RAPH DETECTIVE EPISODE I NEED RAOH DETECTIVE EPISODE#thats so IN CHARACTERRRR IM GONNA CRYYY#and warren 2 episode would be SO funny mikey you would have been so funny#dont even get me started on turtle tot episode#OH MY GOD#DINT GET ME STARTED ON RAMPAGING RAOH EPISODE#I DONT THINK ILL EVER STOP THINKING ABOUT THAT NOW#AN EPISIDE WHERE RAPH FEELS WORSE THAN HIS BROTHERS#HE OVERWORKS HIMSELF AND CAUSES HIS MYSTIC POWERS TO GO HAYWIRE#HE GOES TO DRAXUM IN ATTEMPT TO KEEP IT A SECRET JUST TO MAKE IT WORSEE#TWO RAPHS MOMENT#UGH THE ANGSTTTTT AAAAAGHH THE ANGSTT#RAPH PROBABLY HAVING A H/C MOMENT WHEN HE HAS TO ADMIT WHAT HAPPEND#ahem anyway#and the leo being leader… would have been a slow integration ENDING WITH RAPH AND LEO BEIBG CANONICALLY CO-LEADERS!??!???!#do you know oh my god do you ohhh my god#im going to kms#being eased into leo leader would have been everything ive ever wanted#AND A BUNCH OF KARAI FAMILY BONDING KARAI HAVING A BIGGER ROLE SO HER DEATH WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE HURTFUL DUDE#ref#save#special#fav#OKAY ONE MORE THING DOG DALE AFTERNOON WOULDA BEEN SO GREAT I LOVE DONNIE AND APRIL BEST FRIEND ACTIVITIES
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Thoughts on River x Cersei?
Oh, this would be a MESS.
I'm trying to think about how this would work, and...I'm not even sure Toxic Yuri™ would work as a descriptor?
Because while I like both of these women for similar reasons (i.e., significant psychological issues, perfectionist/absolutism-based behavior I find distressingly believable, doing unhinged things in the name of love, unapologetically owning up to the fact that they are flawed people, being generally accepting of themselves even if the world isn't, not fitting neatly into a box, Solving Problems With Murder, etc. etc.), I feel like they would...never actually get to a point where ANY kind of relationship would be possible? I feel like they would HATE each other, and not in a Compelling Toxic Romance kind of way.
Neither of these women like to listen to other people, which would...be a roadblock, to say the least. River at least is willing to make an exception for the Doctor and extend patience toward her parents, and she plays along with Father Octavian (to a...certain degree), but I doubt she would give Cersei a single micrometer.
And the reason for this is...they're morally objectionable in different ways. Yes, they both Do Murder and Commit Crimes, but River doesn't really have to be prodded all that much to help save the universe or various innocent people around her. It's even her belief in the particular brand of goodness she's learned from the Doctor that keeps Twelve on track in series 10, and that helps him impart lessons in morality to Missy. Cersei, on the other hand, would not really care what happens to the universe, as long as she and the few people she loves are relatively okay (and...maybe not even then, tbh). After all, the universe hurt her. It's responsible for her suffering. Obviously it doesn't care about her, so why should she care what happens to it. And she very much doesn't care about the common people, something she explicitly says.
River also loves stealing things, which isn't a particular crime we see Cersei indulge in. Cersei, meanwhile, is in a complicated, codependent relationship with her brother, and, while River has a lot of bend-able morals, I...really can't see that being something she would be okay with. (I honestly think that it's one of the few things that might actually have a chance at genuinely disturbing her.) And River is...not completely free, exactly (she does at least have to play at being in prison sometimes, and there are a lot of emotional and psychological hang-ups she has regarding interpersonal relationships and her perception of herself as Not-A-Good-Person, courtesy of...a succession of awful things that happened to her as a child), but she can openly be with the man she loves. She can be secure in her sexuality without being threatened for it. She can fairly easily walk out of jail, to the point where it barely qualifies as "jail" anymore. She isn't bound by the same social mores and societal "rules" that Cersei is ("rules" which influence...almost every aspect of Cersei's anger, belligerence, and paranoia). River is feared and distrusted and sometimes hated for a lot of things, but being a woman isn't one of them. And because of that, in many respects, she has the kind of life that Cersei wishes she could have. And Cersei does NOT do well with women who have what she wants.
Cersei has a hell of a lot of internalized misogyny, which is not something that River suffers from. And when it all comes down to it, I think this is the crux of my belief that they wouldn't get along. Cersei's extreme jealousy over someone being able to live freely as herself would prevent her from appreciating any of River's better qualities (she'd be much more likely to read her as an immediate threat than anything else), and I think that jealousy and the internalized misogyny informing it would lead River to just. Not want to bother with her at all.
I think if they were to interact it would be fascinating, in the sense that you have two women who are NOT perfect, straightforwardly-good people; who are more violent than the world around them would like them to be; who had horrendous things to contend with in their childhood and/or young-adulthood. But ultimately they both went in significantly different directions. River tells herself she's Awful™ more as a coping mechanism, to prevent herself from erroneously thinking she deserves more than she (assumes she) does. Whereas Cersei is completely and unapologetically aware that she's not a good person--nor does she want to be. I think the moral clash would be incredibly compelling, as well as create a nuanced dialogue of how people can take away vastly different things from the trauma they experience. And I think that they would make amazing narrative foils. But, ultimately, I think that clash of world-outlooks and self-perception would be too great to lend itself to even a Toxic Yuri™ situation. I think they would just. Be enemies, straight-up: no nuance, no begrudging mutual respect, no other feelings.
Actually, I kind of want to write this now a;lsfjals;fjadksals;dfjsas;lk
#it's interesting that this got brought up because one of my many Abandoned WIP Ideas™ was actually TWELVE meeting Cersei#specifically right after the 24 Years™ where he's fresh off intense grief and NOT making good decisions#because he canonically likes surrounding himself with unhinged women and hey this person is a slightly-older traumatized blonde lady so#close enough right? and then they end up in this weird. Thing™.#where both of them are attempting to replace the things they feel are lacking with each other but none of it is actually real#actually I'm typing this out and maybe I should revisit that. idk if anyone would be REMOTELY interested but when has THAT ever stopped me#multi t(ASK)ing#I'm not sure this belongs in the character tags so I'm just going to tag my Character Nicknames™#light of the west and my life#space blorbo tag#I'll also throw in#The Only Man Ever#because he shows up in my tag ramblings
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outgrowing characters is the weirdest thing
#like age I mean. I’m thinking abt check please again it comes back periodically#but like I read this comic the first time when I was what. 15? how the hell was it that long ago??#I was either 14 or 15 bc I can’t remember exactly where I started and the update I’m pretty sure I finished with when I read it would make#me 14 and that’s just. what the hell. that can’t be right#AND that would mean I’ve been with these characters for 7 fucking years now. HOW has it been 4 years since the comic ended#but man like my point is I started off reading this when I didn’t honestly understand what college was and these were adults#I’m now older than dex ever gets in canon. the comic ends when he’s a junior.#having the framework of bitty’s story has been wild as I go through uni honestly. I’ve been matching stuff up as I go and he’s obviously#a fictional character in an idealised story but it’s still a personal story and a reflection on college anyway yknow. i#it’s been really nice to hold it as I go through#but god being a little older than the characters now makes it feel different#especially bc like. my feelings have changed. stuff got better or different or worse but it’s not like how it used to be when I got into it#and first met all these characters and fell in love w the story and the way I look at it has changed#and MAN they’re kids!! I’m rereading my favourite fic (potentially just. favourite fic. full stop. love made visible - likeshipsonthesea)#and I’ve read the first chapter when they’re freshmen and like! that’s such a specific time! you’re a baby still!!#I’m sure I’m gonna come back and feel the same way abt myself rn in a few years#idk! rereading this I just can’t help but map my own experience of college onto it now and it makes it read so differently#I think I’m also just having feelings about being a different person now than I used to be. trying to figure out how I feel abt him#anyway william dex poindexter I love you. this story is going to make me insane and I GOTTA write one of these fics I have knocking around#luke.txt
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