#whb achazriel

[wihellib]

New Lore/Information from the Christmas Event

Compilation. Some info is small, other info has bigger implications.

Jjyu is not with Belial all the time. He works a normal 9-5 job and then Belial is on his own. Hopefully, Belial doesn’t really need to communicate with people during that time. Or, Ppyong is around to interpret his silence.

This is not that important. I just like the confirmation that, at all times, the devils are subtly and not-so subtly trying to seduce the MC using a bunch of different tactics like wearing tight-fitting clothes, etc.

The way this is phrased makes it seem like Tartaros is the oldest nation. Which is big info and not what I was expecting timeline wise, but maybe I misinterpreted.

Asmo is confirmed to be not just all talk. He will lust after and pursue almost anything and anyone.

Beleth being evasive about his seemingly traumatic fall from grace.

We learned that Achazriel was the first angel ever to become fallen and he leads the Middle Realm between Heaven and Hell that’s full of other fallen angels that are hoping to someday be welcomed back into Heaven.

The rigid hierarchy of heaven is on full display here and how difficult it is to move away from that. Lucifer still commands Beleth like they are back in heaven even though they are both now fallen angels residing in different countries. And, despite Beleth acknowledging this, he still has a very hard time disobeying Lucifer.

First in game sprite of Naberius’ Cerberus form.

This is the biggest info for me to come out of the event. It goes to show you that, despite the event mostly being silly and horny, it is still able to drop massive new info.

Beel's memory issues are not just because of his ADHD or avoidant behaviour. It's because he loses literal pieces of his memory every time he changes form into flies and whenever one of his clones die. It's very sad actually.

Also something may happen between Beel and MC in the future?

One of the angels that tortured Levi when he was young at some point became a fallen angel.

Based on the Seraphim L cards, it doesn't seem like normal halos act like horns. But whether darkened halos do is still up for debate.

I thought that devils couldn't be suspicious? And yet here is Belphie being very suspicious of Lucifer. And I'm surprised it's Belphie of all demons raising these concerns. Since I thought he'd be way too lazy to bother. So, it seems like Belphie is not a big fan of Lucifer.

[cynnkk]

achazriel tho,, a coward but I pity him nonetheless

it must have not been easy for him to be cast out of heaven, hoping to be accepted again but getting nothing

beleth is also a fallen angel but he moved on,, his peers are there in the middle realm hoping for forgiveness when they know deep down they won't get it,, sad

he's longing for god's love but they aren't even around 😭 while gabriel is out there wrecking havoc all over the realms 😭 he's GORGEOUS THO tho

he can't waste away like this GET IT TOGETHER YOUR PEOPLE NEED YOU

[otaku-tactician]

random whb 'a christmas beneath heaven' thoughts

i feel like all the demon kings have their very sharp and intelligent moments, in which they have a strong understanding of their surroundings and the situation-though that often gets interrupted by their chaotic sides and vices (which is so goddamn entertaining to me, and makes them relatable in a sense- they have the potential for growth and change.)

All demons are able to influence others to an extent, but whilst the other kings feel like they're still in the wine cellar, maturing with time and experience; I personally feel like Lucifer and Asmodeus are a completely different level of 'sharp and 'intuitive'; like 30 year aged, full-bodied wines.

These two just seem to read things on an entirely different level, even if their behaviours are starkly contrasted to one another's. They're able to notice precise and small details that'd usually pass over the minds of the others.

I'm sure that other events and the main story probably explores these things too, but I'd like to focus specifically on this event; as it gave me many thoughts.

spoilers for the event 'Christmas Beneath Heaven' below!

(btw this is 'not' the link to the event on YT. ; it is!! this account uploaded a lot of the chapters, which is where i got screenshots this time.)

Lucifer

To me, the strongest example of this was how Lucifer knew, from the very start that the mysterious medicine to cure the 'Christmas Cold' wouldn't turn up where everybody else hoped it would.

From the start, he had an inkling it wouldn't be in the middle realm; yet simply because nobody bothered to confirm said information with him, he didn't share his opinion- letting the others independently tackle this lofty challenge.

And the way in which he's able to precisely imagine how every king behaved in their confrontation with the angel Achazriel- shows how talented he is in terms of observational skills, able to predict a great deal of outcomes and situations based off the sheer extent of knowledge he possesses of his peers alone.

He's unsurprised by Achazriel's observations of each king, simply responding with a 'that's (insert name here) for you'; showcasing little to no surprise at all at their behaviours, even if said king has 'changed' or 'developed' in ways.

In a sense, he gives the impression of a proud family member that watches dotingly over all their relatives; observing them with great interest.

My point is? Simply that this guy sure is impressive, possessing such accurate judgements of others and having such a great skill in psychologically digging to the core of numerous beings and situations so quickly and efficiently. His sharpness is really something else, for him to instantly predict how events proceeded just from the slightest bit of information.

Then again, Lucifer is a doctor; so him possessing such a keen insight does make perfect sense. Even Asmodeus asks this guy for his perspective, so maybe Lucifer is just built that way lol.

It would be useful for a doctor to know so much about all his patients, their injuries, thoughts, behaviours, and personalities. Seems Lucifer takes very good care of his demons, which is sweet.

Counterpoint

However, a sharp intuition, influence and intelligence are not traits that are unique to Lucifer either.

There are likely many examples in this in other events, as well as the main story chapters- however I'd like to raise an example from this event (just to stay relevant to this post).

An example is when Belphegor charms the other kings into participating in his idea. He does this by appealing to the manliness of the other kings, subtly influencing their emotions and decisions. This shows that Lucifer is not the only one who understands the kings well enough to accurately predict their behaviours.(they are stuck together for a loooong, loong time so it makes sense they know how to press each others' buttons so wellT-T).

(LMAO this scene was so funny!) So from this, I feel like quite a few demons have the intuitive skill to influence one another's thoughts and emotions, so they all possess sharpness to some degree.

However, I don't think this detracts from Lucifer's incredible skills of observation either. Just because others can do it too, doesn't mean his skill isn't mighty in how all-encompassing it is; with him able to know of most things before even witnessing their answer; and to possess such keen foresight on his peers. Maybe the main story explains the how and why behind Lucifer's abilities in greater detail (I haven't read all of it yet).

Now onto the next big guy...

Asmodeus

Asmodeus also has a very sharp wit, from the very time his first card was released; there were many posts on his ability to quickly analyse others- almost as if he was 'reading the characters' minds'!

Yet again, Asmodeus portrays such a terrifying skill in the way in which he deftly handles Bimet.

In their bets to see how long Beleth would last in the Middle Realm, Asmodeus seems as if he instantly knew what Bimet's bet would be.

There's Bimet, calmly predicting the extent of Beleth's abilities, and as yet another sharp demon; he's able to estimate this very well (so yes Lucifer and Asmodeus aren't the only sharp demons for sure)... Until ASMODEUS STRIKES.

Asmodeus can narrow into others like an arrow, his readings on them akin to a dagger- they never miss their target. It's as if he understands others on an extremely advanced level- none are able to hide from his observational eyes.

And thanks to this, Asmodeus completely leads Bimet's competent line of judgement astray:

As soon as Bimet tries to confirm his predictions with Asmodeus, the cunning guy throws an ugly spanner in Bimet's confident line of thought, throwing him completely off his game- with a judgement that left Bimet feeling deeply ashamed of himself.

It's utterly terrifying what emotions Asmodeus can invoke within others with simply a sentence, able to pry into very vulnerable parts of them. No wonder nobody likes talking to Asmodeus.

Poor Bimet is now completely thrown off his game, thanks to Asmodeus' manipulation; now having to rely on alternative methods to reach his final bet. It's clear that Asmodeus's lofty status as a king, as well as his chilling judgement can have a very strong influence on other demons, and this event just continues to build upon this aspect of his character.

unrelated ramble below:

(Asmodeus' theme in events also sounds like a wild western song, so maybe that's a nod to him being like a dangerous cowboy or sm? A very sly and conniving one, for sure- whose manipulative bullets slither as slowly as his theme. the damage is only felt once his bullets are embedded. His theme has also got some silly-sounding instruments too though, so he does remind me of a troll-like character.)

back to the point:

Asmodeus purposely did this to unnerve the demon (Levithan calls him out on it.) Asmodeus really does give the vibes of an internet troll sometimes, playfully messing around with others and manipulating them for his own personal thrills (wouldn't be surprised if that was one of his many kinks.)

And the end result of such an intelligent manipulation of Bimet's goals and thoughts?

Asmodeus wins the bet entirely, and Bimet crumples up his shit in rage (much to Asmodeus' pleasure). It's completely insane how adept Asmodeus is at trolling other demons-especially ones who are as quick-witted and alert as BIMET-showcasing just how terrifying it would be to take Asmodeus on in a battle of wits.

He likely knows your answer as soon as you come up with it, and won't hesitate to lead you astray onto the wrong decision if he finds amusement in doing so. What a devious demon. T-T

The last note I had on how Asmodeus and Lucifer seem to deftly pick up on miniscule details and tensions- that others aren't always aware of- is how when the some of the other demons found it hilarious to see Beleth become the first unlucky victim to take on his old 'friends'; Asmodeus is quick to pick up on how uncomfortable such a situation would be for Beleth- shocking the other demons into silence at such an eye-opening observation.

His remark leaves some of the demons reeling, expressing guilt for not considering how making Beleth encounter his old friends would make Beleth feel.

In conclusion, Asmodeus is an absolute mastermind at making others feel DEEPLY UNCOMFORTABLE (a bit like his twitter intro posts). Asmodeus is out there playing 4D chess, whilst the others burn in the flames of all the horrifyingly accurate reads he has on them.

Though other demons are also very sharp and competent, Asmodeus is able to manipulate and change their patterns of thought as well, quickly sapping them of their self-assured confidence.

OVERALL

Lucifer and Asmodeus are on a whole different level when it comes to reading others, man. And it's a lot of fun to watch! Though other demons are also sharp and intelligent, able to influence one another- Asmodeus and Lucifer's influence is practically COSMIC; able to topple the schemes and plans of other mighty beings, as well.

[jazeswhbhaven]

Anyways, today is yap day for me, sorry y'all will go back to our regular scheduled WHB content soon:

This is mostly me yappin' about my own own OC's being shipped together btw.

SO as y'all know I created my fankids and you usually see them in adolescent mode. It's because I'm trying to learn that entire "draw your OC's at different age stages" so they don't look the same while they age and you can visibly see signs of aging.

But, two of my OC's Cain (Satan and Levi's hellbaby) and Damian (Gamigin's son btw that isn't with Astra 👀) is my official OC ship!

More about them is that as I weave together the haphazard timeline of WHB ->

Lucifer fell to Hell after Solomon was gone (iirc) After Solomon is gone that's the time period I had Cain being conceived because it made more sense that way. Now I'm not sure how many decades it's been from Solomon to Ra-On's time period...but I imagine it's been a couple bloodlines maybe a century before Satan found Ra-On.

When Astra met Cain officially in my AU, he wasn't an adult devil yet but he was very close to being one. Canon wise they consider devils adults at 109. I have it set to where Cain is about 13ish so around the later 90's in his age. Damian is an adult on Earth, in his early 20s human wise which would make him around 115ish that range?

Now if you're worried about their age, yes Cain and Damian do have an age gap but they don't officially meet each other until Cain is over that adult devil threshold.

To make it simple think of Cain being like 20 years old and Damian is nearly in his 30's. It's a age gap that most folks have irl. I don't mind age gaps like this in fiction if it's written correctly, and I have made damn sure I wrote my own correctly.

Cain is set to pretty much be the ruler of all Hell because of his birth lineage. There's never been a devil born from two devils before, he is the first one. All the Kings had a discussion about it and decided that it's natural that Cain should be the number one ruler, and this was decided way before Astra was found.

Damian is a love child between an OC I haven't really talked about and Gamigin. Damian is 75% dragon and only has a fourth of human in him. Technically he was born to continue the bloodline, but my OC, Domani is her name, the last fem dragon of Gamigin and Serenade's world (btw I can only assume that's his brother from what I read in that Arc Academy bios PB released like ages ago). Damian and his fraternal twin, Dagon was born shortly after Lucifer's falling. And yeah that means that Domani was impregnated by Gamigin AND Lucifer (I'll get more into that at a later date)

So bam, Damian is alive. However, his mother Domani had been captured by angels, because she wanted to protect him. He was sent to earth, and Dagon to the Middle Realm where Achazriel is located. (I like that I put this twin here because that would be another reason why Luci would visit up there frequently to not only give those angels supplies, but also see if Dagon is doing okay)

If you're wondering why Damian was sent to earth and not to the middle realm like his twin...it's very simple. Lucifer talked with Gamigin about it and it was agreed that Damian would be safer on earth because he mostly looks human and would come back once he's old enough. Gamigin though felt bad about separating them because it reminds him of being separated from his brother (poor bby ;w; i'm sorry for the angst) but it was for the best!

So Damian, under Lucifer's careful watch from time to time made it through Earth without being found out that he doesn't age the same way as humans, keeping his young adult appearance for 50+ years. Also, Damian's memories are suppressed every so many years while on Earth, and this also makes him impossible to be found by Lucifer's brother's who actively seek for Damian and Dagon.

So when Damian met Astra, he was drawn to her simply because of her being Solomon's descendant. The more he spent time around her his suppressed memories surfaced. When he decides to follow Ppyong through a portal back to Hell, all of his memories return, and he finally realizes that he isn't human at all, and he remembers the faces of Gamigin, Lucifer and his mother.

Back in Hell, he starts a new mission to find his birth parents, so he ends up Paradise Lost. Now that he's back, other abilities start to surface that Gamigin is happy to enlighten him on. So during Astra's time in Hell, he's also there. Cain's existence was not relayed to him though until his 109th birthday and coming of age ceremony in Hades. Still, Damian did not officially interact with Cain until he visited Paradise Lost to speak to Lucifer.

Their meeting is abrasive, since Damian doesn't know him that well. Cain is immediately offended by Damian's lack of reading the room and nonchalant behavior. Over time though, Damian does start running into Cain more since he has more freedom to visit all the countries of Hell while he further preps to becoming the ruler.

Damian is just a simple dragon, still "young" in terms of dragon age, and finally he doesn't have the contraints of Earth. He can be himself and explore things. Mostly studying what happened to his father's people, studying this long war between Heaven and Hell, and most importantly, teasing the future ruler...Cain.

He even goes to the Middle Realm with Lucifer's clearance to visit Dagon, who is doing just fine. He also goes to Hades often, since Cain still lives there majority of the time so he can look after his younger sister, Lumi who is bond to the palace.

Over time, he and Cain keep running into each other and Cain starts developing a crush on him. Cain has never had a crush before, as he's been focused on learning the things Leviathan has taught him, and it overshadowed the carefree nature of Satan's parenting. But you can't lock that away forever!

When Cain is around Damian more of that carefree personality does come out. You'll see him pulling out his phone to text Damian, or actively try to see what it is that he's up to. Damian finds it cute that he's so interested in him, but he doesn't take it seriously.

Their dynamic is that of "prince and pauper" style. Cain is technically of royalty, and Gamigin well he's just a simple dragon with a touch of human. He can't pretend to understand what Cain goes through, but arrogantly so Cain thinks he can understand Damian's lifestyle. It's a lot of push and pull for their relationship at first, until Cain learns to break down his own walls, and accept his feelings.

There's a lot I've got to build on their relationship, but mostly I've gotta get their origins built up solidly first.

I always wanted my own OC ship, and now I have it. Even when this game ends or whenever it does, I could still have them doing their own thing outside the WHB universe.

Thanks for listening to me yap about them btw. The inbox is open for questions if you have 'em. Happy to elaborate!