#what's in a name? well if you're a fictional character... potentially an awful lot
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Is there anyone delving into the meta of Jack's name?
Okay, first off, friendo, are you somehow hacking into my search history, and into my chattybubble chats with @trisscar368 or @elizabethrobertajones? WELL ARE YOU?! If so, sorry about the spoilers about the fic Iâve been writing... but anyway, YES, in fact, I have been delving into it and just sorta... letting it all simmer...
I know we went into the meanings of Jackâs name back when we first learned he was going to be called Jack... but I went diving through my Jack tag and I just canât muddle through all that early Jack speculation right now, so I figure Iâll just start fresh here. :P
trisscar368... see this is why i prologued with "meandering off to bed" because even to me i make no sense. Â Also "the jack" - playing card?
mittensmorgulACK sorry, I don't know if you already went to bed... But I was thinking "the jack" like a car jack, a mindless tool that enables a human being to raise a car off the ground...
trisscar368*blink*Oh that would make sense too
mittensmorgulor maybe (depending on perspective) a child's toy that really hurts when you step on it
trisscar368Fits with the tool imagesFor some reason my brain is stuck on the jack -> the knave -> the Fool
mittensmorgulor a big jack, like a caltrop
trisscar368YeahThat tooSo many options
Iâd scroll back like three days to where I was talking about this with lizbob, because we kind of expanded on this a bit, but until tumblr makes it easier to search backward through chat logs itâs just too much trouble to dig back that far :P
Needless to say, this actually set me off looking for Meaning⢠in Jackâs name. Because Jack can mean a lot of things. Iâm just gonna copy/paste the definitions from google here, and then have some fun with this:
jack1jaknounnoun: jack; plural noun: jacks; noun: Jack1. a device for lifting heavy objects, especially one for raising the axle of a motor vehicle off the ground so that a wheel can be changed or the underside inspected.
I guess this was why my first thought was exactly the first definition of jack. :P Because how often have we been screeching about how Jack is in fact a mirror for all of TFW? How heâs literally a vehicle for Sam, Dean, and Cas to deal with their own personal issues, inspecting the underside, so to speak, being able to see their own issues that had otherwise been buried or unrecognized. Jackâs doing some pretty heavy lifting in terms of shining lights on aspects of all three of his guardiansâ Major Issues, enabling us to shine a light up under there.Â
One thing I remember saying to lizbob when I explained this theory is that TFW is finally getting some fresh tires. :P
2. a playing card bearing a representation of a soldier, page, or knave, normally ranking next below a queen.
And hereâs trisscarâs theory. I think this definition fit him more back when he was Intern Nougat, before he started seeking out his own hunts, and definitely before he went walkabout at the end of 13.06. But we shall see. Heâs still trying to figure himself out.
3. a socket with two or more pairs of terminals, designed to receive a jack plug. synonyms: socket, outlet, plug, connection; "a phone jack"
Well, he quite literally acted as a jack in this sense in 12.19, when he plugged Cas into himself like some sort of cosmic toaster oven and used Cas to roast Dagon for him.
Unfortunately for Jack, Asmodeus tried to forcibly plug into his power (jacking jack, if you will... but you probably shouldnât)
4. a game played by tossing and catching small round pebbles or star-shaped pieces of metal or plastic; a small round pebble or star-shaped piece of metal used in the game of jacks. noun: jackstone
And this is another one Iâd come up with... Jackâs sort of at the mercy of the people around him, and the people trying to âscoop him upâ in order to âwin the game.â The angels, Asmodeus, Lucifer, and the Winchesters (including Cas) all have different motives for âwinning Jackâ
But heck, just thinking of a childâs game metaphorically here, Jack has been âplayingâ with his power for the most part. His first conscious use of it was to âjackâ a vending machine to get free candy bars. Sam tried to encourage him to use the non-delinquent school-level performance of power in moving the pencil (still disappointed nobodyâs actually said âwingardium leviosaâ). But when he forgets, when heâs not keeping mind of his powers and they just sort of get tossed around willy-nilly, hooboy does it hurt when someone accidentally steps on it, you know? (the tattoo artist who got thrown into a wall, the poor security guard).
Itâs not one of the official definitions, but since caltrops are also known as âjackrocks,â Iâm assuming a connection here. Used in ancient times to slow the movement of troops (by injuring the feet of people, but especially of horses, etc.), they evolved into what we know as âspike stripsâ that puncture tires during police chases. Theyâre a vicious weapon, and nearly foolproof. No matter how theyâre thrown, they always land with a pointy-side-up. Ouch.
I kind of think that this is how Jack thinks of HIMSELF right now, that no matter how much he tries to do good, all he does is hurt people.
5. in lawn bowling, the small ball at which the players aim.
Now this isnât something Iâm familiar with at all, but yeah. Going along with what I said under point 4 above, pretty much every player on the board right now is taking aim at Jack... poor kid.
6. US informal: used as a form of address to a man whose name is not known. NORTH AMERICAN informal: a lumberjack. archaic: a steeplejack. the figure of a man striking the bell on a clock.
Hit the road, Jack. Jack of all trades. In this sense, itâs interchangeable with such generic terms such as âBuddy,â âPal,â (pal >.>) etc. But heck, Lumberjack. Now I kinda want the kid in plaid...
7.:Â a small version of a national flag flown at the bow of a vessel in harbor to indicate its nationality.
Union Jack, anyone? I have no idea how this relates to Nougat.
8. NORTH AMERICAN informal dated: money.
Well, this one must be REALLY dated, because Iâve never heard it before. But Jack and his potential power are certainly being treated like some sort of cosmic currency at the moment, no?
9. a device for turning a spit.
Wow these definitions are getting more and more obscure :P
Can we stick Lucifer, Michael, and Asmodeus on this spit and have a good old fashioned rotisserie? Please? Evil Colonel Sanders deserves no less.
10. a part of the mechanism in a spinet or harpsichord that connects a key to its corresponding string and causes the string to be plucked when the key is pressed down.
well alrighty, then. *thinks about randomly pressing down on Jack and seeing if that plucks his strings* *wonders if the result would qualify as âmusicâ*
11. a marine fish that is typically laterally compressed with a row of large spiky scales along each side. Jacks are important in many places as food or game fish.
http://mittensmorgul.tumblr.com/tagged/the-fisher-king
12. the male of some animals, especially a merlin or an ass.
I was gonna just let the picture stand on its own, but heck, I looked up some info about merlins:
Merlins are small, fierce falcons that use surprise attacks to bring down small songbirds and shorebirds. They are powerful fliers, but you can tell them from larger falcons by their rapid wingbeats and overall dark tones. Medieval falconers called them âlady hawks,â and noblewomen used them to hunt Sky Larks.
and then for a sense of completeness, i looked up asses too...
Donkeys have a notorious reputation for stubbornness, but this has been attributed to a much stronger sense of self-preservation than exhibited by horses. Likely based on a stronger prey instinct and a weaker connection with humans, it is considerably more difficult to force or frighten a donkey into doing something it perceives to be dangerous for whatever reason. Once a person has earned their confidence they can be willing and companionable partners and very dependable in work.
And... okay both of these descriptions seem apt for Jack...
13. used in names of animals that are smaller than similar kinds, e.g., jacksnipe.
Well, he is the lil nougat son. The tiny smol giant manbabby.Â
14. short for jackrabbit.
aka, the hare. thatâs a very long article behind the link. For anyone interested. Yâall who get a kick out of Wild Speculation of the âRed string tangles and wild eyed conspiracy theoryâ variety.
15. US informal: short for jack shit.
Whelp I think this one speaks for itself.
jack2, jak, noun historical noun: jack; plural noun: jacks
1.another term for blackjack (sense 4).
Riverboat gambling, anyone? Lizbob?
2.a sleeveless padded tunic worn by foot soldiers.
I just googled âjack tunicâ at first and... then immediately added âhistoricalâ and came up with much more apt results :P Basically, itâs a form of padded armor.
jack3verb NORTH AMERICAN informalâ verb: jack; 3rd person present: jacks; past tense: jacked; past participle: jacked; gerund or present participle: jackingtake (something) illicitly; steal. "his MO in the studio remains the sameâjack other people's tracks and present them in a new context" rob (someone). "they jacked him for his car"
Weâll see how this eventually plays out.
Honestly, Iâm just waiting for someone to say theyâve got âJack on Jack.â
I donât know if this is the sort of thing you were looking for, but I had fun researching it all anyway. So, thanks! :D
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So You Want To Make NSFW Content For SFW Media
Yes, this can be done, and it can be done responsibly. Unfortunately, it is quite frequently done very irresponsibly, which obviously causes serious problems.
In this writing, I am assuming that the content creator is 18+ and all characters involved are fictional and canonically adults. If any of these things are false, you'd better not be doing this. (And if it's your age that's the problem: I promise that this stuff will still be there when you're older. I don't care how mature you are; you need to not interact with or post explicit stuff if you're a minor.) I'm also focusing on Tumblr here, but the general idea carries over to other social media sites as well.
Alright, you've made your NSFW headcanons/art/fic/whatever about your favorite adult fictional character. So now you just post it to your blog, right?
WRONG.
Unless your blog is already 18+, you've more than likely got minors in your audience. Minors cannot consent to seeing this stuff. You need a sideblog.
In your sideblog's title or description, put 18+ and your age or age range. If this were pre-porn ban I'd tell you to mark the blog as explicit, but you can't do that anymore so... oh well. Go ahead and do whatever customization you want. You can also let your adult followers on your main blog know that you've made this one, and that they can send you an ask or message to get the URL. Don't post the URL publicly, though. You need to do everything in your power to stop minors from accessing this blog.
I would also strongly suggest having a DNI on the blog, as if it gains an audience it'll likely be full of NSFW bloggers. It won't keep all the daddy doms, """littles""", and misogyny kinks off of your shit, but there should be fewer hopefully and you can block them as they come up.
What's that? You don't want to make a whole new blog just to post this content? Aw, too bad. Keeping minors safe takes precedence over convenience. You can always keep it to yourself.
Since you're being a responsible adult, you need to put some thought into your tags as well. You can't tag with the fandom, ship, or character names, as that'll cause your post to potentially come up in searches made by minors. (And if your post has the names somewhere in it, such as if it's a writing post, you'll need to add a blocked tag like #fuck to your post to prevent it from showing up in any search.) Some fandoms already have special tags for NSFW content, such as #undertail. With others, you'll have to make up your own. If you don't want to use a tag like that, use a blacklisted tag to prevent searches from working.
With all that, you're almost done! You've made a sideblog and your post. The last step here is more maintenance than anything.
Check your notes regularly on the sideblog. If anyone interacts who is a minor or doesn't have their age in their bio, ask them to delete any reblogs they've made and then block them. If anyone reblogs one of your posts and their blog is one that allows minors, ask them to delete that reblog (and block if you feel it's necessary). To block a from a sideblog on mobile, you can send them a message from the sideblog and then block them through the messaging menu.
Yes, this is a lot of work and a lot of stuff to handle. If you can't handle it, that's okay. But don't post your NSFW work if you're not mature enough and capable enough to do everything in your power to keep minors away from it, especially if it's NSFW for characters from media aimed at younger people.
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Anon because I don't want to be mentioned on your trash blog. All you're doing is drumming up the same garbage points, claiming you know how damaging this is because of your work but you're also only working with problematic situations instead of even thinking of the possibility that not everyone becomes a victim. And yeah sorry a film written in 2007 about the 80s is just now being made. Lol and the `doing this for all the survivors` bs, like w/e not worth our time either.
Wow my blog voicing discomfort on seeing my abuse among others being fetishized is trash? The only one whoâs trash here is people who believe shit like that like really your character is worth as much as your views and if thatâs your view then thatâs a whole lot of garbage and shit.
Youâre on anon because you donât want to risk people knowing this view you stand for lmfao, like itâs clear what kind of person you are sending whiny shit about how abuse victims critiquing your nasty ship fetishizing the abuse you get off to are mean :(
I get you seem to be attempting to make me feel bad but sending asks like this that are just whiny and attempting to be cruel are laughable because it just shows you canât counter any of the shit I gave you and you just keep rephrasing everything you say so you donât have to admit thereâs a chance youâre wrong so you wonât have to feel guilty about fetishizing abuse.
Iâm drumming the same points because literally none of y'all can counter them like if you want an actual debate then offer something I havenât already countered because youâre not bringing anything new to the table other than hate, and people that just use hate without any counterpoints in their arguments just go to show what shit arguments they have.
Believe it or not, someone whoâs has a degree involving adolescent psychology (17 and under) does know more about this shit than a fandom shipper lmfao like your credentials are just not there and real world occurrences compared to the fandom shit you get off to are vastly different. As someone who works with people in the age range of the high school aged boy, a man nearing his twenties wanting to engage with such a boy is absolutely predatory, and thatâs not debatable, the same way nazis, racists, homophobes, transphobes, islamphobes, anti-Semitics are awful, because an adult initiating a relationship with an age gap like that is a predator, and if you are an adult you should damn well know that and have no excuse not to.
You can scream at the top of your lungs this isnât true, but calling a rose by any other name doesnât make it true. A predator is just as awful as those other things. A person well into adulthood going after someone whoâs experiencing teengood is a predator. Thereâs no situation where thatâs ever okay, no matter how many times you say it.
It doesnât matter the situation if itâs a person nearing their twenties going after a high school aged person then thatâs absolutely going to result in harm on the high school aged person for all the points I already went over that you literally havenât countered at all.
Thatâs not debatable, and you acting like it is is extremely concerning if youâre a 21+ adult.
Iâm literally a survivor that was harmed by this shit and the majority of antis are like why else would we be arguing for this? Like really go on and give me a reason because all that statement did was further prove my point y'all donât give a shit about survivors that speak out about the shit you romanticize that we went through.
Donât you dare fucking call me caring about making sure other people donât go through what I did bullshit. Thatâs an awful thing to claim, and Iâm not about to listen to trash like that.
Anyways I already countered shippers favorite debunked argument claiming the stuff I stated above is âbullshitâ, and youâre not worth my time to write this all over again or word it a different way, so Iâll just copy paste.
Shippers like to act as though antis are antis just so we can feel like weâre on a high moral ground in a superior kind of way, and thatâs such a silly thing for shippers to believe, but I guess it makes them feel better by helping them feel like weâre the bad guys for speaking up about them getting off to abuse that very real people face, and getting off to shit like that fictional not, and then expecting people to not voice discomfort, critique, or skeptism around them.
When in reality the vast majority are antis are antis because we want to keep other potential victims from facing what we and those we stand up for faced and believing it was romantic or normal. The rest are that very small number of the kinds of antis I listed above, and even those at least want the same thing, even if they are going a bit overboard.
Almost none- if any- just want to feel like theyâre better for having âpurerâ ships so they can scold people who donât have the same ships as them, but like I said, shippers claiming something so simplified about their enemies probably letâs them sleep better at night and convince themselves theyâre right. Iâve been both a shipper (I was a minor and didnât know better since fandom is built around normalizing disgusting shit) and an anti (I grew up lmfao.)â
Link~ http://quellines-stories.tumblr.com/post/169461767311/also-like-listen-i-get-that-antis-definitely-have
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