#what in the gamergate

[tboyinashed]

I made the huge mistake of not turning out youtube autoplay while I was playing minecraft. I now know who Asmongold is (if thats how you spell his name), I am deeply unhappy having learned about this

[bunabi]

No..... I dont think its crazy to have sales expectations for a highly-anticipated game you believe can succeed & is the direct follow-up to a title that won GOTY

I get the frustration but blaming EA for everything nonstop is killing me

[junglejim4322]

Once my ex girlfriend who I lived with got so mad at me she kicked me out of her discord server and on top of that I didn’t notice she did for like 2 months but after she told me I called her projared like once a month for the entire rest of the time we were together

[gremlingirlsmell]

honestly where did all these droves of Amazing-Atheist-tier antifeminist queer & trans tme people even come from

[andmaybegayer]

Me: I should read more videogame industry news

Also me: ah right the horrors

It keeps happening. Great to know that KotakuInAction is still around and ever more divorced from reality.

[zeeph-containment-zone]

hoping people start to realize that some of these "chud gaming opinions" were actually extremely valid criticisms that were warped into something annoying by a couple of obnoxious people. If we don't start calling this shit out and doing something about it, we're going to see a lot more things like poorly written characters that are suppose to be "inclusive" but exist to check boxes a la hazbin hotel style and massive plot excluding localization changes in the future. People don't realize that these things affect them as players until it actively circles around to bite them in the ass. I've seen so many people floored over the Tears of the Kingdom localization changes and all I can do is sit here and think "damn, we told you this was a problem years ago and you wrote us off like we were on the same level of people who whine about video games being 'too woke.'"

gamergate 2, the 2020's video game crash, whatever you want to call it, I hope y'all realize this is because people continued to ignore gamers with valid complaints and equated us to /pol/users and now it's almost too late to prevent a near total collapse of the gaming industry because of it!

[stormsbourne]

welcome back da2 complete with gamerboys being mad about its very existence and calling it sjw dei garbage

[uptownthots]

love when white people talk about ""forced diversity"" v.s not ""forced"" diversity and their examples are always like yeah its distracting and forced when a black character is a main character but when they're faceless ghetto gangsters and criminals it's perfectly fine <3

[antlered-vixen]

Can I be your friend?

Erm. I mean, I'm rather extroverted and easy-going, so you can definitely try. But also be aware that people's curated and function-specific online presence is rarely an accurate window to their actual personality so whatever you think you might like about me might be a) a very minor facet of me, actually b) entirely artificial c) equally contradicted by opposite traits.

[astralleywright]

the getting annoyed at someone's fandom opinion to facist pipeline

[clownkiwi]

i cant wait for the days scifi nerds and video gamers can stop having shouting arguments over how a character will have "she/they" pronouns or that women exist, but days where we can have discussions about how disney keeps oversaturating star wars content to the point it really doesnt feel like an event when a new show or film releases. or how video game executives dont understand how trying to make something based off of how popular a game is will oversaturate the market with more games of that genre and that will kill video game studios & cause massive job losses. but sure. i guess its awful when a woman has "she/they" pronouns too i guess. sighs

[cyberpunk-20xx]

about masc!V's VA

cw for general spoilers and mentions of typical-canon violence

I always find it strange that people find masc!V's VA emotionless, or even annoying or plain bad. I'm not gonna say anything about fem!V's VA because I don't pay attention at all to it cus if I do it gives me dysphoria.

I don't, on the other end, find it that strange that most people I've seen with this opinion are in fact cis men.

To me masc!V's VA is actually super emotional, but not in the conventional likeable, heroic way. Jaded and reserved at the same time. I like the VA a lot for doing what I consider great work at presenting us a character who has lived from 2050 to 2077 in a deeply fucked up world where hope is so sparse. A world that we have no idea how fucked up is, even reading about the ttrpg because to me Cyberpunk Red is much less fucked up even if it is already a dystopia.

Just as a reminder, in CP77's NC society:

Amputation without actual health concern is highly encouraged all for the sake of pure performance. And nothing else. Your physical body is socially just disposable. The only way to keep up with the world that keeps eating itself is just to upgrade, and if you don't have the money for it? Fuck you, fuck your ideals, fuck your dreams.

You get suicide baited on the regular by the fucking street advertisements.

Violence against marginalised people is at an all-time all. Sex workers have it even worse than in the real world and that's saying something on how women and queer people are treated in general.

Acid rain is normal.

The majority of the animal population is extinct in the whole world. The cattle industry has collapsed and unless you're Kerry Eurodyne levels of rich, meat is either made of worms or insects and it's not even something hidden or taboo. In fact, it's shown explicitly in ads. Real vegetables and organic food in general is scarce as well. We might, irl 2023, start to be desensitized about it because we're on the brink of the ultraliberal hell that the game is portraying, but human's civilisation started with agriculture, and cattle culture was a big fucking part of that, regardless of one's ethics and morals about meat consumption (do not clown about veganism on this post, people are allowed to value animal life regardless of this video game blurb). In various quests, namely Panam's and River's, we can see firsthand how the collapse of that industry has rotten individuals and left the land in ruins.

Even a mondial star like Kerry or a fixer queen like Rogue are just, in the end, the bitches of the corps they sold out to, and unable to fight back. In fact, they've both given up entirely until V comes crashing into their life, with Johnny in tow. The fandom paints them as charismatic individuals but I really just think that's the rose-tinted glasses effect of us knowing what they used to be, when they tried, and them just being... Pretty conventionally attractive, quippy and sarcastic. But really even those two people who we are presented with as Succesful Individuals TM just... Man they just fucking suck, okay? They're miserable, they don't like themselves, they don't like who they are anymore, they don't have any speck of joy left in their lives, they're both estranged from their kids, alone, and just going on because death is scary. They're so human. They're at the top of the world and in the end they're still nothing in the face of it. Love them both so much but they're heartbreaking.

V always starts the game after having lost everything. Any other fucker in their place would have most likely finished just like a certain Heywood kid with spikey brunette hair. V is an exceptional individual for even having a chance at a second life.

V pretty much has brain cancer and is promised a painful, slow agonising death unless they basically kill themselves, and the less painful way to go is to gobble down medication but then that means giving the body up to Johnny. Johnny's first interaction with them is: violent physical assault and suicide baiting. It's hell. V is in hell. It could not be me if I were honest, I would not bother fighting it and I would not only alt+F4 from life, I would do as Johnny wishes at this point and erase us both at once.

V's so traumatized that when they lose Jackie, they're still able to function, but not enough to see a blatant trap coming. And when they have to carry Evelyn's corpse out of that tub, they don't have a breakdown, they just tank it. Which is not badass by the way, if you frame this as anything positive you need therapy yourself tbh boo you deserve better.

V's also a cold blooded murderer very easily if you want to take that path, and I'd even argue that the game makes it very hard for them to not be a killer honestly. Even the "non-lethal" optic mod doesn't work that well past a certain point. I've yet to try my hand at a pacifist run.

If you want V to be a good person, a hopeful person, someone who does not sound deeply suicidal and terribly fucked up, someone who's not used to death and treason as their daily lot, someone who's going to make you feel good about yourself when interacting with the world... I don't think you understood the game you were buying, nor that you were paying much attention while you were playing.

I'll be the first to admit have my own biases and gripes with the game's bleak looks on life, at its pretense at being "cyberpunk" when it truly only has the "cyber" part down, but at the same time I gotta give it to it, it's cohesive within its own universe and tone. V's canon, vanilla character makes perfect sense in the settings we are presented with. Masc!V's VA just does a good job of translating that.

But I guess that's not all of it, the difference between my interpretation and the one I made this post about makes sense because it is true that masc!V's VA does not act like the normal hero archetype at all, but like an anti-hero, except without the whole "charismatic leader" bullshit tone and bravado, unlike… Well, Johnny himself.

Masc!V's voice is not only not the voice of a good guy, it also fails to be the voice of a leader, of someone who's got it all figured out, of, well, the alpha male. It commits the crime of not being Good and not being Manly, at once! It even dares to be human and vulnerable at times! No wonder it gets haters lmao.

And the people I see bashing on masc!V's VA are always fucking kissing Johnny's ass for being who he is in the flashbacks, in the legends and at the beginning of the game. And that, to me, is pretty self-explanatory why I cannot relate with their opinion on masc!V's VA.

[commiegoth]

I think we (general) gotta figure out how to distinguish between "transmisogynistic trans mascs are only an online phenomenon and anyone who talks about it is a terminally online complainer who needs to log off and touch grass" and "there are internet spaces dedicated to radicalizing trans mascs into transmisogyny much in the same way the internet has been used to radicalize cis men into misogyny, and as in that case it is never restricted to just the internet for very long" because one of these actually provides a tangible path to addressing the issue and it's not the "stop complaining" one.

[technicolorxsn]

sometimes I remember that time a guy I sort of respect but am not rly in contact with anymore told me some really stupid gamergate conspiracy theory and have to wonder how he even believed and repeated that

[deancasforcutie]

Four horsemen of I hate to admit you were right in 2000s-early 2010s geekdom but LOOK at the state of media illiteracy you were trying to protect us from

Gatekeepers of "fake geeks" (War), "don't like, don't read/watch" (Famine), "if you didn't cry at this you have no soul" (Pestilence), "you just don't get it" (Death)

[cumulativechaos]

in all the talk abt the levels of irony in the whole situation has anyone mentioned how funny it is that the company is literally named oceangate