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Fun fact: A tundra is just a cold desert. A mountain is just a big hill. And a capybara, and I’m sorry but I have eyes, is clearly just a type of dog.
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Episode prediction time!!
The Cecil daddy issues episode of the first half of Year 12 will be either September 15th or October 15th. Sept. 15th follows the pattern of 1,2,2,1 (Years 9 & 10) 3,4,4,3 (Years 11 & 12) for release of daddy issue episodes (when including Go to the Mirror?)
Oct. 15th is far out, but let me explain. This daddy issues episode has to elevate the saga, something big has to happen. Cecil's dad said in Liminal Spaces "I want you to remember...You have no choice."
Oct. 15th is the 9th anniversary of Homecoming. And the pieces are falling into place, aka Carlos in the DOW. Also this was the premiere of Earl Harlan, and we all want his section back.
Cecil didn't get to talk to his mom that night, but what if he got to talk to his dad? What if he had to talk to his dad? With no one there to walk him through it, like how Carlos told him to unplug the computer?
Home is coming for him, and he cannot escape it.
#“And with Carlos out of town I've gotten kind of isolated a little hermit-like lately. I need to get out.”#“This year's Homecoming means more to me than ever.” (56)#“Where am I and how do I get home?” “This is your home.” (224)#wtnv#welcome to night vale#wtnv spoilers#cecil palmer#wtnv 56#wtnv 224
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after listening to the new welcome to night vale episode, ive been wondering, did anyone else realize the guy from liminal spaces (ep. 224) is probably cecil's dad?
1. oddly familiar and makes cecil aware that he's forgetting smth; he never remembers abby's story about their dad
2. sitting, not facing cecil for most of the episode; abby can never see his face
3. cecil when inside the liminal space he feels that its familiar and the man tells him it was cecils house
4. when the man finally does turn around, cecil realizes he's seen him before, in the murals; abby says that their dad could be seen in art
#wtnv#welcome to night vale#please tell me im not reading into this too much#i cant have been the only one thinking this#cecil palmer#cecil gershwin palmer#abby palmer#wtnv spoilers
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I know it's not cool to listen to classics like Welcome to Night Vale anymore or whatever
But episode 224 - "Liminal" does a hilarious take on exactly this
You might have heard about this new internet craze The Youth have with what they call “liminal spaces”, by which, as far as I can understand, they mean a photo of any empty public place, especially when the photo was taken at night. An empty McDonalds. An empty swimming pool. An empty Blockbuster Video. Just these normal places we go every day, but if you take a photo at night when no one’s there, then it gives what The Youth call “liminal vibes” and they cannot get enough of it. (...)
Ooh, we’re starting out strong with an abandoned amusement park. The picture is taken at night. There is a light on in one of the rides, a children’s ride where the cars are shaped like teddy bears. In the dimly lit interior of the ride, we can see a ladder, and a painted prop of a tree that has fallen over with neglect. Creepy!
Next we have a photo of a high school hallway. It is afterhours but the lights are all on. Some of the lockers have been left open and empty. It appears equally possible that a crowd of teenagers is about to come herding through here, shouting and laughing, or that no human foot has touched this floor for a thousand years. It is very, as the kids say, liminal, although I admit I don’t really know what they mean when they say that. I think they just mean spooky, which hey, these are some spooky photos, can’t disagree.
Ok, another one of the greatest hits, an empty water park. Super creepy and, you know, liminal.
It’s strange to me that “liminal spaces” got slapped with just being another way to say “creepy place” when “liminal”… doesn’t mean that at all. More than anything images of “liminal spaces” just sorta evoke that bittersweet side of nostalgia in me. Like seeing a mall that was once super busy be completely void of people.
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“Oh Carlos, how wonderful! You’ve been absolved! You can finally experience true happiness…”
@perfect-cecilos , this one is for you.
Your post gave me such brainrot that I needed Carlos absolved, Kevin dissolved, AKA “what we could have had if Finknor weren’t cowards,” (AAKA: my Carlos harassment conquest continues). Also pulling influence from @like-the-2ides Kevin as well.
A little note on the drawing. I wasn’t exactly sure how to convey explaining something away, but I settled on this fading rainbow gradient. I wanted it to look like one of those halos of light that appear briefly in the corner of your eye before being blinked away. A slight distortion that dissolves away into a dream you aren’t sure was ever there, like everything that the U of what it is touches.
Carlos can be free of that incredible weight. He just has to deal with the emptiness now.
#wtnv#welcome to night vale#wtnv 224#welcome to night vale 224#wtnv spoilers#kevin wtnv#kevin wtdb#wtdb#cecil palmer#carlos the scientist#wtnv carlos#cecil gershwin palmer#janet lubelle#the university of what it is#welcome to desert bluffs#carlos the perfect scientist#faulty’s carlos slandering continues#wtnv charles#charles the theologist#wtnv cecil#wtnv fanart#wtnv podcast#angst#SO MUCH ANGST#CALL ME JONATHAN SIMS BECAUSE IM HUNGRY FOR SOME TRAUMA
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This was not my home now,
but it was my home once.
When was it my home?
I didn’t remember.
ummm Cecil needs a hug I think
[ID: Digital fanart Night Vale 224: Liminal Spaces. The foreground shows a close view of an unsmiling man whose eyes are cut off. In the background, an irregular doorway holds Cecil’s twisted silhouette. The majority of the palette is dim greens, with the hallway behind Cecil bright yellow. Cecil is holding a mic, and magenta energy comes from him and his third eye. End ID] (thank you @princess-of-purple-prose for the ID)
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bruh is cecil about to meet michael from TMA
#wtnv#welcome to night vale#wtnv spoilers#wtnv 224#Liminal Spaces#cecil palmer#michael tma#michael distortion
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night vale residents don't even know what state they're in, it's canon:
They have also asked her to remain in the state, to which she said that she, quote, “has never left the state, doesn’t even know which state we are in, and wouldn’t know how to leave if she wanted to.” End quote. It is definitely very tricky to leave Night Vale, but the good news is: why would you even want to?
Episode 224, Liminal Spaces
#i love this episode already#welcome to night vale#wtnv#wtnv 224#wtnv spoilers#welcome to night vale spoilers#my post
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I like how my relationship with Night Vale episodes has gone from amazement, shock and pleasant surprise to "Cecil went to the liminal spaces because of course he would, why wouldn't he, I would've expected him to do that sooner actually" and pleasant surprise.
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I’m hip, as none of the kids say anymore.
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wtnv liveblog ep. 224 liminal spaces
quod est superius est sicut quod inferius
well yeah cecil night vale could be a liminal space
i cannot with cecil talking about trends skfhkhkg
yes you are very hip cecil :D
dw cecil i love popcorn too wait am i old???
mmmmm night jeans
reminds me of the one bo burnham jeans ad
amusement park you say
cecil is soo good at describing liminal spaces
you know what you ARE right they are juts spooky
OH GOD A MAN??
you can’t remember him huh
it’s his father
HOLY SHIT IT ACTUALLY IS EMPTNESS IN YOUR HEART YOU SAY
noooo dana dont go after D:<
exactly why would you ever want to leave
TRASH THAT PUG !!
michelle and riverdale meditation sounds amazing
did you know i actually can’t boil water nevermind food i could actually use that
wait janice fell asleep?? this is exactly like ‘it doesnt hold up’
oh ok that is very true liminal spaces are very nostalgic and thrive on it
THE MAN AGAIN I KNEW IT
a video?? what’s he typing
wha-
YEAH WELL CECIL I WANT TO SEE HIS FACE
no you haven’t seen enough
cecil baldwin is so good at voice acting, you can hear the fear when he says the video isnt turning off and that he’s bad at using technology
CAPYBARA = DOG TRUTHING
CECIL YOU ARE SO TRUE FOR THAT THE DISHES IN FACT DON’T MATTER
cecil you are in a horror show you will die
WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU’RE NOT IN THE STUDIO
WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU’RE IN 2003
god i love horror shows
WEATHER TIME: SPOILER ALERT IT SLAPS
wait is he in the fucking backrooms
HE IS IN VARIOUS BACKROOM LEVELS
of what now?? malaise??
oh no do we meet cecil’s dad
if he isnt lee marvin i’ll cry
his home? oh no
hhhhh ohhh noo
CAT BALOO?? THE MURALS TOO ?? I WAS RIGHT
cecil bbg please don’t repress bad memories :((
noooo cecil :(( i wish i could help my blorbos ugh
well, i certainly loved this episode, liminal spaces are such interesting concept
goodnight nightvale, gnight :)
#wtnv#wtnv whiplash#welcome to night vale#welcome to nightvale#wtnv spoilers#wtnv 224#wtnv liveblog#big truther of cecil’s parents being lee marvin and huntokar#cecil baldwin#cecil gershwin palmer
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Janice listening to all of that while she was still awake: 👁👄👁
#I mean having Cecil as an uncle must mean she’s used to some weird shit#but not ‘so weird it creeps Cecil himself out’ weird ig#wtnv 224#welcome to night vale#wtnv
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WTNV LIVEBLOG (plus doodles)

EPISODE 224 - LIMINAL SPACES
I’m very intrigued to see Finknors take on liminal spaces I bet it’s gonna be spooky as heck
Above is so ten years ago…. Ten years
Ofc Janice relaxes with liminal space compilations
Cecil is such a hip uncle 💀
Do the kids still eat popcorn?!?
When an immortal guy tries to seem young while being like 250 years old
Cecil saying liminal in a valley girl voice is not something I expected to need so badly in my life
HE KNOWS THE MAN
WHAT HAS HE FORGOTTEN
THE MEMORIES HAVE BEEN TAKEN
The police have taken ten years on this one murder case they’re so stupid
“This is 2023” 💀
For real why would you want to leave
I wonder what a pug incident entails
Poor chefs
WHAT
Are there pinkies in flakios (Idk why I’m surprised)
Ok hold up
“We all want to be babies because if we are not babies we are responsible for what’s happening around us”
You mighta just did something ceec—
Ok but why can I do clearly see malaise as a colour in my head
THE MAN AGAIN
A VIDEO
THEY WILL TALK SO SOON
SO SOON
KEEP PLAYING THE VIDEO CECIL
omgomgomg
Why is the idea of sharing almost every thought with someone else so comforting
Thanks guys
Cecil you dumbass I think there’s a reason it won’t stop
WHAT JUST HAPPENS
WHERE THE FUCK
The weather gives liminal vibes frfr
Repetitive in a meditative way
Office hallway
He’s in the fricin backrooms
Aaaaaaaa
Malaise carpet 😶😶😶
Wait is this where he came from
Cecil is from a liminal space?!?
Where did his memories go?
When are they going to address Joseph Fink being here?
HE WAS IN THE MURALS
REMEMBER CECIL!!!
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WHAT are we GETTING PLOT?????????
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EPISODE 224 “LIMINAL SPACES” SPOILERS
I’M LATE TO WATCHING THE EPISODE BUT WE’RE FINALLY PROGRESSING IN THE CECIL DAD LORE, WOO!!
#welcome to night vale#welcome to nightvale#wtnv#wtnv episode 224#cecil palmer#cecil gershwin palmer
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something that really struck me in this episode of Night Vale is how we're used to Cecil making those jokes of "haha leave it to ol' Cecil to screw things up!" which are spoken wryly or with a level of humour that you can laugh along. Because Cecil is incompetent sometimes! He's ignorant and doesn't want to know things! That's our Cecil! But then he started repeating it in 224 so breathlessly as a mantra. It almost felt like self-flagellation as he spoke, close to tears, about how "of course it wouldn't work, because it's me, Cecil" and "I'm just bad at these things so I can't possibly do anything right" and "it must be something I'm doing wrong" as he isn't doing anything at all. It shifted my perception so heavily on those jokes that he makes. He really believes those things.
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