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wanted to see how far i could push c+
#ffxiv#i spent a stupid amount of time on this#c+ is so good ive been waiting for it to come back after patch#so unused to seeing vanilla risu#but ive had this idea for a while now and i wanted to test the limits#side note; been super into house md i recently binged it all#need to convince one of my friends to make an alt and be my wilson#we could be cohealers#anyway im gunna go thru content like this i hope i become an arther cryptid#midgard btw
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Deciding that my wol does not deviate from canon as presented in the game makes every point where I would have deviated so enjoyably juicy. I thought Wolund might be a WAR in Dawntrail after everything with Zenos and tapping back into his love for adventure! I was extremely wrong.
Musings on character class and Dawntrail. Spoilers through the end of 7.0 below.
I don't think the WoL in Dawntrail can be a Warrior, really: rather than tapping into their love of combat, they've clearly learned to take their foot off the gas. All your most interesting moments in 7.0 are when you don't fight someone, or when you are slow to violence. WAR just doesn't fit, to me.
In fact, no tank fits for me: tanking in duty support means pushing Wuk Lamat out of the tank role, or at least the main tank role for the 99 trial, and that just seems wrong to me from a story and vibes standpoint. Similarly, playing a DPS means making Alisaie heal the 93 dungeon and trial, which is insane to me. I don't think it should be legal to staff-chick Alisaie, as it were. I've also never liked healer G'raha, who shows up in the 97, 99, and 100 dungeons if you're DPS; we see him use PLD and BLM (well, their equivalents) a lot in the story, but only rarely, if ever, WHM.
Of course, playing healer means DPS Alphinaud in the 91 dungeon. That means an ideal "everyone stays in their ideal roles" job means being able to flex DPS or healing. And that leaves me right back where I started the game, withl CBU3's Blessed Siblings: SMN/SCH.
SMN has always been so canon to me: it's FF's special-est magical girl class, it involves claiming your enemies' power for your own, it gives a lot of weight to you as "the savior of the savages" in the eyes of the empire, Y'mhitra shows up in MSQ, Fordola and Arenvald show up in SMN quests. You get the Hydaelyn&Azem-esque Solar Bahamut this time out! Very main character stuff.
And SCH! Dawntrail is, to me, such a healer expansion. Only once, at the very end, do you really bring your own might to bear, and then in the form of the classic Azem trick, Instant Queue Duty Finder. You spend a lot of the MSQ and every role quest mostly playing the role of support, backing people up and rarely taking point. Serving as Wuk Lamat's emotional support is most of the expansion, and MSQ is pretty pointedly about how you're not really the main hero this time out.
So the idea of a WoL who mostly doesn't fight (okay he's spamming Art of War II. It's a gain on 2, Wuk Lamat), but calls directions, warns of incoming attacks, throws up shields, pulls people out of AOEs, that's very good to me. And healer can be the only role you need to pull you over the finish line, as myself and a cohealer learned today when I burned everything to heal him through repeated AOEs (thanks Dissipation and Seraphism) so he could pull off a healer LB3 (double mhroth scholar team, to boot) in the final trial. And wouldn't it make sense for Azem to play that role of battlefield tactician, coordinating their disparate friends? It's also the only role Emet and Hythlodaeus lack between them...
We're not taking center stage and holding aggro this time out, and that's a fun change! Curious to see how it plays out in patches. But rather than having his blood up and pumping again, Wolund seems very much at peace, and I'm excited to see how that plays out.
also biolysis-swiftcast-recitation-adlo-deployment tactics into a raidwide hits so fucking good. that shit's like candy to me.
miscellaneous related thoughts:
- SCH and SMN are also connected to arcanima and the South Seas Isle Lalafells, who seem like they might suddenly be somewhat more important than expected
- I feel bad for many scholars because I know Seraphism doesn't fit your class fantasy. But if you're playing SCH as "this is just the WoL class this time" it hits so good. You're a secretive mentor figure with a secret special ANGEL form that maybe is due to the time your soul was almost permanently warped by light aether or maybe is a fusion with your summon, both of which are basically boss phase concepts to me tbh.
- also looking on Twitter it looks like Seraphism functions normally for most people but uh it removes Wolund's hrothgar coeurlstache. I choose to believe it's light aether fucking him up and if you could see under the hood he basically looks like Forgiven Reticence its NOT his real face
- his pets are ruby (SMN) and emerald (SCH) carbuncle, to avoid scaring people and to keep a low profile.
#ffxiv#wol oc#lions and lily flowers#dawntrail spoilers#warrior of light ffxiv#meta: durai report#wol: zodiac brave story
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Progging HM Dxun with our hardmare-ish training team (I say ish because it’s a training team for when folks want to try a new spec, a new role, or a new raid tier, and we’ve done both HM and NiM fights, but mostly we meme while trying to teach new skills)
Dxun is full of features that make you have to pull most of the bosses and then die to reset the encounter so that they actually work, which is just wonderful. But they fixed that one graphical error in the Huntmaster room that didn’t actually impact gameplay at all, so it’s all good 🙃
I decided to work on sorc healing, which I only do like. once a year, so I often forget that I have a knockback/root ability, and a yoink ability, so I definitely don’t play it as efficiently as I could. We somehow ended up all bringing Force users, and double-sorc healing really highlighted the areas I need to improve on
We mostly ended up doing Lake Crab prog, and on one pull, the crabs grabbed me and murdered me right before I got into the room, my cohealer revived me, I picked up my flares and got in position for the fight, but the crabs outside had somehow not deaggroed from me and pulled me out of the room to murder me again???? One of the dps, not noticing that I was dead was calling desperately for flares, tank pointed out that I was dead and said someone should just walk over my body to pick them up, and another dps was like “she’s not even in the room anymore.”
#november plays swtor#I really would like to be a triple threat healer#but the crabs really do not want me to live long enough to work on sorc
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Savage Prog Diary - P12s reclears
June 11 - With just 3 kills remaining, the dipshit brigade locked in and managed to nab another 2 in one night! there was some silliness in part 1 that set us back a little bit but once we got to part 2 it only took a few pulls to get us back on track!
i did get a little bit tilted in the first couple of p1 pulls bc the game decided to dc me when i was mid-swiftcast to raise my cohealer. so i hit swift and then when i went to cast raise it started hard casting. i was like. the fuck you are
if i'd known how the game communicates i could have gotten my cohealer back up as soon as my connection came back but instead i thought the game ate my swiftcast. then we wiped. then i lay down on the floor to be mad about it for a couple seconds
but! my strategy for not panicking between pulls (taking deep calming breaths in the first 30 seconds while nothing is happening) helped pull me back from tiltville. aside from a few oopsies i feel like i did pretty well tonight
looking forward to being done with reclears though (for now... we will still have to come back in dawntrail to get our ninja his axolotl). it's going to be weird having nothing going on tuesdays and thursdays again....
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I thinks to myself I thinks let’s do the Tsukuyomi fight as a healer, I mostly know the mechanics, what could go wrong? Cohealer loads in, chicken suit. Putting regen on everyone prepull. I thinks to myself, enthusiastic maybe? Friendly even. Fight starts. Chicken Suit eats it. Tanks seem ok so I raise and keep healing. People start falling to the moon debuff. Ok, my mp is sad but we’ll keep raising. Raise Chicken Suit. Chicken Suit down. Red mages down. 2000 mp. I die. I could have used my lb3. We start over. I die. Chicken suit raises me. Chicken Suit down. Raise him. Down again. Bard dies. Keep healing. Healed solo basically. Keep raising Chicken Suit but he fails the moon debuff 100% of the time. I’ll heal Tsukuyomi I thinks to myself I thinks I can heal Tsukuyomi
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So, due to my usual coheal being absent on raid night, we had a friendly neighborhood dps sub in, and our summoner went sage for a night. We figured maybe we could smooth out some rough patches, teach reapers to sit and stay, all that pog stuff.
I attempted going white mage. My brain is barrier healer hard wired apparently, so I uh failed, and went back to scholar.
Raid lead immediately had misgivings when I asked to back out so I could change.
Two pulls later, we are actually progging.
Raid Lead says, in absolute frustration, “This is so stupid, why does it work so well?!”
Turns out double barriers is kind of OP in P5S. Who knew?
Good night, little rough, at least for me. SMN/Sage doesn’t usually heal at all, just had it leveled, and so requested I call out abilities to use when I could for them. So I’m over here juggling my own stuff and trying to remember Sage’s kit, what stacks and what doesn’t, and trying to articulate this in time for it to matter.
Our OT made the comment, “Piers, I’m really impressed you can remember all of Sage’s weird named things.”
It’s like I’m a Sage main and I run Scholar in Savage for Expedient and Fairy or something. Weird shit dude. I swear I love Sage, I’m a former Scholar main in recovery
Other notable commentary:
“Piers, I love it when you tell me what to do, do it more” “…I dunno how comfortable I am with that statement”
“WHY DOES KHAL HAVE 10 HP” “Because he refuses to die, duh” “PIERS” “You’re welcome :)”
*my raid discord filling with animated gifs of various animals with letter C superimposed on their mouths whenever the reaper asks where he is supposed to soak*
“WE’VE NEVER GOT THIS FAR WHAT DO WE DO” “HIT IT TO DEATH”
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Cool Group
So, I got roulette’d into Menagerie. Some people pipe up that they’re new, everyone’s fine with it, so off we go. We ended up wiping at the dps check, because the dps kept dying. Everyone’s still fine, a couple of things get explained, we try again.
I ended up having to heal lb3 because everyone was successfully dying, only to die myself, because the chain mechanic just loved me, I was still in the animation lock from that god damn lb, and whoever I was chained with wouldn’t…you know. MOVE AWAY? Got ressed, but we end up dying anyways, with the boss being pretty close to death. The group was basically: “We’re doing better”. This is where my memory gets iffy, because I can’t remember if we had 3 or 4 attempts. Anyways!
The chain mechanic came back, so I ran away from it, right? Then, I see that it’s not breaking. So I ran all the way to the back of the map. Nope, still there. Still outstretched from the middle of the map. So, I died to that (again). Got a res, and, alright. I own up to being an idiot and trying to run to the other corner of the giant aoe, but it happened right after I ressed, and typically when I get ressed, I’m more or less like that Mr. Krabs meme (you know, the one where he’s looking around in a panic, trying to get my shit back together), and I was pretty exhausted from even at the first attempt, so that really didn’t help. Anyways, I died again, and nobody tried to res me (well I understand why the cohealer didn’t try, they ressed me the first time, and they were trying to keep the others alive, but we had a smn/rdm too so…)
Anyways, we end up wiping because whm couldn’t keep everyone up. I should’ve told them to lb3, because everyone was slowly dying, anyways. According to the group, the chain didn’t break because we were going the same way? Not at the end, we weren’t. Unless I’m that blind.
Suddenly, the group’s mood shifts to “Sorry guys, gotta go”, someone trying to pass a vote abandon, then whoever did decided to just log out instead, think someone else left too, can’t remember. There was also a “Him moving back to same spot was retarded”, from the tank who was whining about lag, ironically, which had me just go, nope, fuck you all. Because…
Having to deal with the dps failing to avoid/handle mechanics correctly, or just fucking falling off of the platform, a laggy tank who dies due to lag, meanwhile, the group in general doesn’t seem to mind at all about any of those constant deaths.
Probably because they weren’t the ones who had to deal with it.
But no, I finally potentially fuck up, and I’m met with all of that bs?
Nah.
I can’t know for sure if they meant me when it came to the retarded comment, but since I was the cause of the wipe, I just assumed it was, for the next thing I said, before I left, which was along the lines of, “That one mistake, but everyone else can die all they want”.
I get that a healer dying is a lot worse than a dps, but I’m just amazed at how the reactions were when I was the one who finally bit the dust. When we weren’t even close to killing the boss, too. Meanwhile an almost clear is “We’re doing better”?!
You could say that a tank dying is bad too, espically in Menagerie, but nobody said a word about that!
Oh, and it was also funny that at one point, one of the tanks asked for heals pls while the whm was dead, like.
Give my ass more mp and we’ll see.
I hope they all left after that. /still bitter
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#healer discourse#final fantasy xiv#submission#reposted under anon i dont think proxy saw your request to have it anonymous#notes from mod mhi
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Flow
aka feelyplay
Flow, or being “in the zone”, is “being completely involved in an activity for its own sake. The ego falls away. Time flies. Every action, movement, and thought follows inevitably from the previous one, like playing jazz. Your whole being is involved, and you're using your skills to the utmost.”1
This is a psychology concept that’s been on my mind for a while. I approach disc raid healing from a state of flow. Aside from micro posts, I don’t care to discuss “how” to play disc in the more general sense because 1) there’s plenty of disc resources out there already, and 2) most general disc discussion reads like an opinionated pursuit of theoretical perfection, but at the cost of practical use.
I wanted to write a post on flow because the intuitive play that comes from flow is seemingly at odds with the algorithmic, pre-planned style of disc. Or is it?
Intuitive sense doesn’t come out of nowhere. A cartoon artist could quickly draw a character and make it look good, but first they spent years building a strong foundation by doing realism studies, going to art school, etc. I feel that it’s the same with disc.
Developing flow: Guides and resources are a fine starting point for learning any class/spec... but who guides the guide writers? Who guides the WF guilds? If you want to someday be no longer dependent on others to figure out how to play your spec, you need to constantly ask yourself not just “what should I cast”, but “why should I cast that?” Take it a step even further and play the devil’s advocate with yourself/the written guides: “is there any case where I wouldn’t want to do that?”
Over time, this builds the foundation where you understand how your spells work together, and what your kit is or isn’t capable of. My goal with disc is to play it as a standalone healer spec that can plug-and-play in any raid team, with any healer comp. It’s true that disc’s throughput can reach disgusting new heights when provided with an environment that caters to it, but that’s quite frankly toeing the line of cheese/farm strats -- and distracts from the reality of other less-than-ideal situations, which are far more common.
Playing with flow: There’s a lot about the healing environment that’s difficult to feel fully simply from looking at logs or by studying disc gameplay under ideal/”sim” conditions.
Healing patterns: How quickly do your cohealers react to expected (or unexpected) damage? Do they attempt to top people off right away, or trust in HoTs? Do they snipe?
Damage/mechanic patterns: During a healing window, how often does the damage tick? Every 0.5, 1, 2,... seconds? Is there a point during your burst where you’ll have to move, e.g. to dodge the frog during Pa’ku’s winds on Conclave?
Healing x damage patterns: How much of your atonement window is going to overhealing? Would you get more out of an extra upfront global of atonement healing, or the direct heal from a well-timed Radiance? Should your ramp complete before the damage begins, or as it begins? Should you Schism-Solace-Penance-Smite, in that order, or switch it around? Delay your next cast half a second? Or even dare refresh SWP/PtW during your atonement window.. or Schism before you cast Evang?
For me, flow is a combination of the principle of Always Be Casting and a passive awareness of the dynamics of cohealer healing output x raid damage intake x mechanical constraints. I feel a sense of flow because I’m always doing something, and always sensitive to what’s going on around me. Most importantly, forget about the “rules” of disc. What you cast is unimportant. What matters is what you are able to accomplish with your casts.
If I were to receive log analysis from anyone ‘well known’ in the disc community, they would find no shortage of things that I do “wrong.” My ramps are often quite weird. I play “suboptimally” or completely out of order. I refresh dots during my atonement windows, I Evang before casting my second charge of Radiance, I apply atonements during my burst. I unironically take Luminous Barrier sometimes. You name it - it’s probably in there somewhere.
If we were all playing in a vacuum with ideal conditions, where following a textbook ramp->burst cast sequence would always result in the best performance, they would be right. You can probably see where this is going..
Some TCers might carefully respond that there’s “always exceptions”, but that the recommended ramp sequence/talent setup/etc. is generally correct. I dislike this phrasing because it creates the mindset that one way is the standard. It encourages blindly following a formula unless told otherwise, instead of living and adapting to the evidence before your own eyes.
I think it would be fair to say that more than any other healing spec, playing disc requires balancing many different moving parts. The boss encounter and your co-healers are also moving parts, so include and react to them as a core part of your play, not just as an afterthought!
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Re-progging Master/Blaster, but this time with a team that is actually pleasant to raid with
Last night, we had some Issues
Suff (melee dps) pulled threat while we were beating up on Blaster, I saw the red conal for the knockback, considered stepping out of it, then remembered that I'm ride and die with Suff, so he and I waved to the rest of the raid as we went flying off the platform
Ray (sniper) rolling through the boss (and thus through me and the melee dps) with his hula hoop bomb and making the rest of us just about shit ourselves because all of our bombs were about to go off
Suff biffing it (and his corpse getting thrown to BFE, 60 goddamn meters away from me, for good measure), trying to decide if I could run over to res him, rolling close enough to res right as Thermites went out, getting the res cast off just in time to start taking damage from the thermite (of course we got the worst pattern for where I was standing), rolling back toward Blaster and ending up on top of Princess (melee dps) with both of us with hula hoop bombs, Princess just like "UHHHHHHH, NOVEMBER????", quickly getting to a safe position right before our bombs went off
Tom (tank) saying "fuck it" and immediately stealthing out on a pull that felt weird so Blaster turned around a shot me, both melee dps, and both ranged dps off the platform
Jeyja (cohealer) biffing it and her body being in the electric fence, trying to decide if I could quickly zip over to res her, somehow ending up smack in the middle of both of the ranged dps and the three of us blowing up
#november plays swtor#ops shenanigans#and i used to do stealth res in there!#anyway we're making it to carpet bomb consistently but we are getting Goofy#almost everyone on the team is actively on at least one nim team#but no one has been in m/b in a while#so right now we're all just rediscovering this fight#as we fuck stuff up#like oh yeah he does THAT whoopsie#also whenever we declare a pull to be a wipe ray always gets amused by me yeeting myself off rather than just jumping#i'm not taking any chances of blaster shooting my ass
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Did a pug Dxun today so that I could finish out the entire crit path on at least one of my pubside toons before tomorrow (not that I’ll actually be doing R4 tomorrow or any time super soon). It was several folks’ first time in the op, so it was a little rough, but folks were mostly having fun (aside from my cohealer for the first two encounters, who ragequit after three bad pulls against the Crabs; jokes on him though because then I successfully stealthed us into the room and we had a super clean pull). Lots of joking, lots of speculating about what tomorrow will look like, lots of cheering the newer folks on and encouragement after bad pulls for what we needed to fix.
After our first pull on Huntmaster went super glitchy (he was doing the Red Circle of Doom, then went into Fortress while the circle was still up, then Shelleigh came out without us having to fight Huntmaster for the second round? then we all died), our second pull went disastrous real quick, with two dps dropping fire grenades on the group. I managed to get out of both grenades and tried to mark a safe spot to stand, only for Huntmaster to shoot me in the face with Scatterblast for more than half my health, killing me instantly, and said as much in chat. One of the dps (who had dropped one of the grenades on us) said “oof, what a case of the Mondays.”
Anyway the only boss we one-shot was Apex, because he’s a parse dummy in SM. I still hate pugging, but it was a good group and I’m glad to have that one out of the way.
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That RDM story reminded me of something similar that happened to me today, but oddly in reverse!
So my friends and I queued into O2 because one of them still needed a drop and we agreed to help. His a PLD, I’m and AST, and his girlfriend is a MNK. We’re going against the squeaky toy of doom and everyone seems pretty familiar with the fight and it’s going really smooth until the boss casts -100gs and we all go flying into the air. Only the 2 tanks and I are in the safe zone, and the entire rest of the party dies. That’s 4 dead DPS and a dead healer.
Now, we are at like 2.75 bars of LB, and I’m at like 40% mana. I am solo healing the tank, and I weigh my options here. I can try and raise a few people, including my fellow healer, or I can wait out LB and raise everyone, giving them full HP and MP when they get up 🤔
I opt for option #2. It saves me mana and assures best party survival. But we’re a tad bit away from LB so I am throwing DPS on the boss in between healing my friend and weaving gravity mechs. Then my MNK friend (who is sadly also dead and has time to look around) asks “what are they talking about?”
I look down at the chat to see the RDM is FREAKING OUT.
“Uh??? Maybe don’t stand there and DPS???” “Maybe you should raise instead???” “Wtf do you think you’re doing raise me ffs”
Someone else points out that I’m CLEARLY waiting for healer LB3 to which the RDM replies “but why???”
Time out. First off if my decision would have been to start raising in that situation, I’m going to raise my cohealer first. RDM are neat and all but I’m not prioritizing a DPS over my cohealer ever except in very rare situations (if a DPS LB is all that’s left to finish a boss, sure). Second of all, I only have enough mana for maybe 2 raises, and then it’s gone. All of it. I won’t even have the mana to top off the people I raise, and if I magically pull a ewer, then that still leaves the 2 people I raised with limited mana, so even if I raise my cohealer and the RDM, THEY aren’t going to be able to raise and it’s going to be a headache to keep the MT alive.
I wasn’t waiting for LB3 because I wanted to be showy. There are 5 dead people, and the best bet for the entire party is to get all 5 of them up with full mana/TP/HP and then we can carry on like nothing happened.
I LB3d the moment I could (unfortunately I counted on the few seconds of immunity to keep them safe but they all got petrified mid raise animation anyway, oops), the party got up, and we cleared the fight from there, no problem.
I got a bunch of player comms and thanked for the good save, the RDM was blissfully quiet the rest of the run and my friend got the part he needed so it was a happy ending.
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"Its not that big a deal"
So, proto ultima is out, and much like many others I figured I’d queue up for it. Queue up as astro, get my AoE balance ready while I wait for the queue so my team doesn’t need to wait for buffs, and I’m hyped to get a quick scaith run done and see the new fight. Load in, see I am co healing with another AST. Cool deal, balances for everyone, balances forever.
“You want to main or off heal?” no response, just standing still with diurnal, so I swap to nocturnal as a different group pulls the first boss. “I’ve got first buff if thats okay.” no response, I pop my AoE balance and notice it didn’t buff the other astro.. They’re not in the arena…
Okay this is fine, I’ve solo healed harder content than this before. Its only the first boss of dun scaith, no biggie. *queue the healer horror story stereotype of all DPS wanting to commit mass suicide* oh okay.. this is fine.. just lightspead aspected helios to keep everyone alive, ascend the smn while lights still up.. swift raise the DRG, hope the SMN is kind enough to grab the ninja. Thisisfine.
Alliance B has two scholars neither of which seem to wish to heal anyone in their own party. Time to pick up some more slack. I'mokaywiththeeventsthatareunfoldingcurrently. The scholars also don’t want to res their party members if they die to mechanics or lack of heals. That'sokaythingsaregoingtobeokay. So I am solo healing for 15 people, which is less than fun, but we manage a kill albeit less than cleanly.
Notice my cohealer sprint for the chest. Look at their buff bar. sprint and diurnal are up. no buffs. “Hey, cohealer. I know you missed that first fight and thats okay, but just wondering, why didn’t you set up your buffs while you waited for us to clear that?” I ask, just out of curiosity more than anything. “I was busy eating” Oh… Oh… I mean, its not that hard to press a good two to 3 buttons to set up your buffs, but alright.. Just seems kinda inconsiderate to eat food if you’re running content.
“Alright, I was just wondering. I’m sure you’ll get something good ready before the next big fight. :)” queue next trash pull, queue healer sitting afk again, queue DPS and tanks eating gazes and getting stunned before they kill the crystals. Whelp, time to synastry somebody and spam those aspected helioses. Manage to clear the trash out with only a few weakness stacks here n there. “Hey cohealer, why didn’t you help me there? I know its not your fault that people messed up mechanics, but everyones only human, and I really could have used some help fixing that bad situation.” “I’m still eating."
Okay now I’m fricken mad. I don’t mind cleric-n-forget scholars if they at least communicate that. I can solo heal content just fine if I know ahead of time. But this person isn’t playing the game at all, they want to simply be carried without doing work. "Well, why did you queue up if you were going to be busy eating?” I didn’t want to outright say they were being lazy selfish and miserable, I tried to be nice. “Its not a big deal” this would be their only argument for just about everything.
“I just wish you would have communicated before hand, or been willing to help a little is all.” “my food was burning, thats why I wasn’t in the first fight. Its not a big deal” says the would-be healer. Now I’m really agitated. “You don’t think its just a little bit inconsiderate that you’d queue for content other people want to run, and then not actively participate in it?” “I’ve solo healed this before its not a big deal.” missingthepointtherebuddy.
So, by this point we’ve got the jester down, and people surprisingly did mechanics right so healing it was easy enough. “Its not really that I mind solo healing, I’ve had plenty of partners that prefer to DPS. Its just that you haven’t really been doing.. anything. Its more than a bit selfish of you to just queue for something and then expect to be carried. And saying ‘its not a big deal’ doesn’t excuse the fact you’re acting entitled when you really haven’t contributed to the team.” “It could be worse, I could be afk or something, its not a big deal.” and right then and there mypatienceforyourbitchass.exe has stopped responding “If you were afk, I would have vote kicked you by now and found someone who genuinely wants to run this. By doing nothing but being around you’re making it harder on me, and denying someone else from running content they’d actually enjoy doing and helping with. So stop being so selfish and self centered and help a little, and maybe don’t queue for content when you’ll be too busy eating.” Kicked. For. Harassment. Nope, I’m done here. Fuck you, fuck the party who enabled your bullshit, and fuck me for trying to be a bigger person and put up with it that long. I am pissed, that person is scum, and I just need to vent my burning hatred for a few moments. FFFFFuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu-
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Party was probably a premade and yes that healer was a selfish idiot. Look, if you’re going to queue up for something as time intensive as Dun Scaith, don’t do it while you’re doing something that will take priority of your time. Seriously? Kids? Busy/asleep/tended to before hand. Food? Eaten/cooked. Responsibilities? Taken care of. The only thing that should be interrupting you are unexpected and unavoidable circumstances. Like holy shit, I have no sympathy for people like this. “It’s no big deal” my ass. Stop being lazy and get your shit done before queuing.
It’s absolute bullshit that you got kicked for calling them out which is why I assumed you were in a majority pre-made and queuing with a majority premade is a nightmare when one of them is a straight asshole with no one willing to call them out on their dickery.
-- Mod Mhi
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Cohealing Hell in Dun Scaith (FFXIV)
I just had the worst run of Dun Scaith to date <_>
I'm a SCH main, but today I was doing my weekly run on my alt; an i257 AST. Now, on my main I'd been saddled with picking up the slack of my cohealers before, as well as solohealing in once instance where my cohealer DCed and the boss was pulled before we could vote kick, but between me having been significantly more practised on SCH, being carried by my ilevel (my main has been i270 for a good while), and then having a party that otherwise wasn't doing too badly, or at least not hit by practically every mechanic, I had struggled significantly less then than I did today. Being on AST, I had expected to take the brunt of the healing - I'd shrugged off my WHM cohealer neither helping pick up any of the good chunk of the party that was thrown off of the arena during the first boss, or heal while I hard-raised them (we had the MT in our party). My cohealer had spent all of that time spamming Stone II (not Stone III or any DoTs, only Stone II and nothing else, which I had tried to ask them about), it was a tad annoying, but solohealing wasn't unmanageable at that point, so I had just shrugged it off until I began struggling when we reached Scathach, where I finally asked them to help healing.
What I didn't expect, was to not get a single outgoing heal from them the entire run (even on themselves after the many mechanics they neglected to ignore), or any help raising the rest of our disastrous party that seemed almost like they were hell-bend on intentionally getting hit by almost every mechanic.In fact, my cohealer wasn't doing anything other than spamming Stone II, sometimes with or without cleric stance - not that I know why they even dropped cleric stance when they weren't doing any healing whatsoever.
Both from observation and having checked the logs, aside from a Swiftcast for their Stoneskin II before each pull, they didn't cast use a single CD - no Presence of Mind (despite their refusal to leave Cleric), no Shroud of Saints, (not that they ever actually managed to get low on MP while I was usually scraping to get a cast off), or even a single Assize. The one thing they did use, however, was healer LB3 while the boss was at 30%, with 2 people down (one with a raise from me already on them, the other I was in the process of hard raising).
I was really struggling with my MP with the constant raises; I was using Luminarious Aether on CD paired with Celestial Opposition, and actually having to regularly burn Ewers on myself.
We had both a SMN and a BRD, who both ignored my pleas for help with an occasional raise or MP (no Mage's Ballad even during the phase switch of Diablos, nevermind any other time). They probably either deemed my usually practically full-MP cohealer capable, despite how much the party was evidently struggling, or they were just pain unobservant; my money is the latter, considering how these two were the ones that were constantly dead most of all (and understandably rarely had an abundance of MP because of this, but not even when they did...). The other DPS an always at max range, stubborn to never move BLM, a NIN, and I don't recall the last.
Alliance A was also struggling; the healers seemed to be consistently dead (both seemed to have Brink of Death throughout), and Alliance C, who seemed to be fairing relatively well, with only the occasional irregular death until we were near wiping, seemed blissfully ignorant of both the struggles of A (who had repeatedly asked for help in alliance chat) or my own alliance.
The best part in all of this? I guess I must have offended them by asking why they were using Stone II over Stone III back in the first boss, because throughout all of this, from the point that I had asked my cohealer for support during Scathach, they had began hurling abuse at me in the chat. In hindsight, I shouldn't have engaged and initially tried to argue with them with them after their attitude in response to my request ("Up to me, focus on u please") given that they they were obviously not going to see any reason, but I did, and I was met with a barrage of aggression that I could barely respond to while trying to keep the party up.
On top of that, my party had stayed eerily silent throughout all of this; aside from the NIN, who not only did not support me, but stood up for them ("Why the hell are you watching what she's doing? How about YOU heal" "Holy crap why dont you heal and mind what you do."). At this point, I was kinda suspicious that the rest of the party was a had been in a preformed group with my cohealer, given the shocking lack of concern or co-operation it seemed like this could be the only explanation, but after a final "Lol ur so ammusing, ur rage is fun" from my cohealer at the end of the third wipe, a vote dismiss went through and I was free of them. Only the NIN that had taken their side followed and left out of our alliance.
Once the party refilled and the couple of people that left from the other alliances, we smoothly finished the final bosses very quickly, and with the support of my new cohealer (I regret my concern about their level of gearing when I saw their low HP pool - I'm sorry, you were amazing) we both managed to keep the party up; they mostly DPSed but knew when to step in and help, and we could finally look after Alliance A, who still had both of their healers that always seemed to be dead. At least it ended happily and I got all but one of the commendations (though I do believe my wonderful cohealer should have gotten half for coming to saving us), but it was undeniably the most stressful run that I've had in-game.
Apologies for any typos, I did try to proof read but I think my brain fried from that run. I think... I may need to go lay down.
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I ran doom scaith twice today, once for myself and once for a friend and let me tell you: I didn't miss 24 man raids. In the first run we cleared the first boss okay but it was clear alliance A was STRUGGLING. They were up in arms about how their healers weren't healing, claiming they were just standing around not helping or healing. I mean I tend to want to defend healers but when the entire party is that adamant that there's a problem... and it was clear there was SOME problem because their group just couldn't keep up. We got all the way to Scathach and wiped on her. Alliance A is still freaking about their useless healers (and their tank is trying my MT) so I promise to help them out, and spend the next 2 wipes trying to heal both their party, including their tank, and my own. Finally one of their healers drops. Turned out their gear had broken pretty much on the first boss and they've just been kinda hanging around hoping for their clear. Their buddy was the other healer who was trying (poorly) to compensate for them so they could stay. The second run through my cohealer just...doesn't come to the first boss? She just stands there afk for the few minutes before we pull and for a few minutes after, locking herself out and leaving me to solo heal it. Then when she catches up she has these moments where she just stops moving to type, getting herself killed several times. She was a fine healer really besides these hiccups but it's hard not to get irritated when you raise someone mid fight, only to have them eat an AOE and die because they wanted to make a comment to the party about something. THANKFULLY over all I had pretty good parties for both runs, as in DPS who try to avoid as best they can and tanks that actually tank, so solo healing or split healing wasn't as nightmarish as it could have been but really... does a perfect experience in 24-man raids exist?
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Shout out to my co-healer (and actually my whole party) in Mhach. There were some hairy moments and the other parties didn't do us any favors (in fact they almost wiped us a few times) but you were awesome and we did great! If I could have commed you all I would have, but I commed my cohealer for being so on point!
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