#we all just LOVE odysseus
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odysseus the line cook au
odysseus is a line cook, 40 years old, hasnt gotten a promotion in the decade hes worked there
coworker is diomedes, fresh(ish) out of culinary school, head chef , 27
odysseus is not very fond of this fact
its a fine dining restaurant, they do not act like it is.
boss is circe who cannot stand any of them,
their manager is hermes, he is chill with everything going on, doesnt really care as long as the kitchen is clean and they get dishes out. too busy smoking weed. could of had his own restaurant but didnt want the responsibility
married to penelope whos a professor in textile materials and technology, busy teaching and grading papers usually.
odysseus and diomedes have a very weird hot work situationship, his wife is very okay with it. odysseus is in love with him
theyre just bros, its not gay to fuck in the walk in freezer
what they do depends on the day and how much they can get away with.
penelope actually wants diomedes to move in so he 1. pays bills 2. she can pawn telemachus onto him 3. wants to know whats up
odysseus chain smokes on his break. he desperately wants to quit because his wife thinks its kind of gross and second hand smoke but he just cant kick the habit
lives in an apartment complex, absolute girlfailure.
poor relationship with father, could of been the greatest nepo baby but dropped out of his degree in commerce to go to culinary school
THIEF AND A LIAR
house is filled with equipment from his work, biggest thing hes stolen is a stand mixer that he convinced circe he threw out because it was broken. everything in his fridge is stored in a stolen quart container
doesnt steal any produce because he thinks its poor quality
ACTIVELY HATES CUSTOMERS
if diomedes wasn't there odysseus would be spitting in peoples food (he does it if the customers piss him off enough and if diomedes isnt looking)
maternal family has mob connections that he doesnt use (he can do it on his own)
on his off day he likes to bbq on his balcony to the displeasure of all his neighbours. hangs out with his son too
#odydio#odysseus#diomedes#penelope#tagamemnon#linecook au#i guess im the guy for this now#me and my gc came up with this together#s/o to eli mars and scan#n.txt#we all just LOVE odysseus#the king of ithaca is a girlfailure#i might actually have to write this now#we actually talked about this while two of them played valorant of all fucking games
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Shipping EuryOdyPoliPen as the silliest polycule to ever grace this earth, Odysseus and Polites started dating first and they both had this big fat crush on Eurylochus but neither of them ever said anything.
Then Odysseus meets Penelope because he’s the king of Ithaca and needs to get married to a girl and he’s like “Woahhh what a woman she’s so smart and pretty she should murder or kiss me” but Penelope does not fall for Odysseus first, instead she sees Polites and is instantly head over heels because he’s sweet and charming and then eventually they all end up dating, I just know Penelope would fall for Odysseus because he does something massively stupid while trying to be smart and she’s like “never mind I want them both”
She and Ody get married but are both still dating Polites while having to hide it from the rest of the kingdom (it’s highly obvious and nobody cares)
And then Ctimene is about to marry Eurylochus but she is very much aware Eury is destined to become apart of the polycule, so literally on her wedding day she jokes to Odysseus about “stealing his second husband” Ctimene is our AroAce Queen though so she does not care at all, but it would catch Eury and Ody off guard so much and she would relish in that
But also thinking about Penelope had three husbands go to war and the only one who returned alive has his heart still out at sea somewhere
But yes EuryOdyPoliPen <3
#eurylochus#EuryOdyPoliPen#euryody#eurypoli#odypoli#odysseus#epic the musical#headcanons#epic the musical headcanons#odypen#polipen#odypolipen#ctimene#polites#penelope of ithaca#polycrew#Guys they’re so special to me#in my heart I can just imagine PenPen coming up with this massive speech#for polites on their wedding day just being like#“you are still our partner we love you marriage is superficial anyways#and she’s so nervous about it#and it’s so cute#can they all just kiss and be happy
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Odysseus with his head in his wife's lap, happily not paying attention to anything, humming one of athenas song and carving something
Some random guy: your majesty----
Odysseus: not bothering to sit up: whatever my wife decided is fine.
#the odyssey#epic the musical#Odysseus#Penelope#Odypen#Post-canon my beloved#Odysseus tried to hold court exactly one time before he 1. Realized he's very out of date with everything and#2. Remembered that these meetings sucked so much#Odysseus then quickly climbed into his wife's lap and was like penelopes been ruling for 20 years she's got this#The first time someone tried to insist that it wasn't acceptable for penelope to answer ody nearly killed the guy#Nobody tried to force the issue after that#The only time odysseus sits up to contribute is to be like 'no no we can take that route now I killed the monster that lived there years ag#This is not to say he isn't listening and paying attention! He is! He's just scoping everybody's out#Noticing who's more pushy when they're trying to deal with penelope than they are with him#He's got twenty years of politics to catch up on! And he's going to be sneaky about it#Odysseus post return gaining a reputation for being uninvolved and uncaring only to pull the rug out from underneither the other person#Penelope is a okay with this for many many reasons#First off her system is one of beauty and the fact that her husband didn't spend all her hard work to take back over the second he came bac#Is rare and penelope is grateful everyday for who she married#Second she gets to show off look at how well she did odysseus look at how clever she is ody ody watch as I scam these people isn't that hot#(It is and yes of course odysseus was watching)#Penelope enjoying how odysseus lays out over her like a lazy lion#It scratches her possessive side to show him off like this and she gets to play with his hair#Telemachus attending some of these meetings to learn (tm) and spending the whole time deeply embarrassed#Odypen being 🥰🤝 rat bastards in love
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Fascinating how Polites, the character who is the personification of Odysseus' optimism and is only in 5 songs, is more grieved and appreciated than Eurylochus, a character who is his own person and is in 11 songs.
#I'm being a hater but meh :/ it's just kind of baffling to me. Don't get me wrong. Polites plays his purpose for the musical#and it is neat how Jay took one line from him in the Odyssey and got silly with it and basically created his own character.#but like... All we know about Polites is that he's nice... that's literally it. He's Odysseus' optimism personified. which is why he died.#And it's not as though it isn't sad that he died. It's just that we got to know Eurylochus longer and truly get to know him more#is it because with how little people know about Polites other than “uwu sweetiepie” people like that so they can headcanon more?#is it because Eurylochus is “too complex” and therefore “not likable”??#idk. I'm gonna be burned at the stake for this I know it. but I don't understand it.#like during “Love in Paradise” it wasn't “Open Arms” that made me sad. It was “How much longer...” and “Waiting...” that made me sad#I mean I'm an “UwU sweetiepie” too (not right now though clearly lol) so maybe I'm “meh” about him because he's just “me”?#Mad rambles#shot by odysseus#epic the musical#polites#eurylochus#hm. maybe I shouldn't tag this but I'm actually really kind of curious as to why people cling to him so much?
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How much stuff from the Homer should we keep in our vision of the Trojan War story?
Do we keep everything Iliadic and Odyssean here? Do we retain every event, every detail, despite the fact that some of them contradict other traditions? Or should we change something to adapt other accounts, or should we try to find a reconciliation in-between?
Do we omit Palamedes in our telling of the recruitment of Odysseus so the ones being rude were just the Atreïda, or do we go with the Cypria as well as other sources where Odysseus faked his madness and got exposed by Palamedes?
Do we have Achilles and Patroclus in Phthia joining the war eagerly, or do we have Odysseus using the trick to find out Achilles in disguise hiding in Skyros?
Do we have Achilles leading the Achaeans to plunder around before reaching Troy, or do we have a storm scattering the fleet so that each king returned to his own kingdom while Achilles came to Skyros and married Deïdameia there?
Do we have Achilles being able to bleed in battle, or do we make him invincible other than his infamous heels?
Do we have Astyanax as Hector’s only son, or do we allow the existence of another son—Laodamas—to live even longer by his mother’s side?
Do we have Anticleia dying of mostly old age and sadness, or do we have Nauplius bringing false news to Anticleia, causing her to hang herself?
Do we hold Aegisthus responsible for the seduction of Clytemnestra and the death of Agamemnon and Cassandra, or do we have Clytemnestra orchestrating it, and give her an axe to deal the death blow?
Do we have other Achaeans returning and staying home safe from war and sea, or do we have the most of them wandering still to found many cities in places like Italy?
Do we find Neoptolemus staying in Phthia waiting to marry Hermione, or do we see him reigning over in Epirus?
Do we know Aegialeia as the faithful wife who’d tear for her husband in her empty bed, or do we see her as the queen who betrayed her king upon his return, for reasons up to interpretation?
Do we have Diomedes reaching home safe and sound, or do we need him exiled to Italy so he could start founding cities?
Do we keep Odysseus’s journey in mythical islands and seas, or do we have him wandering in Italy (even to Iberia) like others, founding cities and leaving some tombs of his crewmates behind?
Do we agree that the Telemachy took place in Pylos and Sparta, or do we find Telemachus going to Crete to see Idomeneus?
Do we follow Homer’s claim that Odysseus’s lineage was a line of single sons, or do we consider Telemachus’s statement here merely dramatic thus allowing all those other “sons of Odysseus” to exist?
Do we agree that there were no Nausithous or Nausinous, or do we have Odysseus leaving them both behind on Ogygia forever?
Do we know Penelope as the loyal wife that she was, or do we find her consorting with one or more suitors resulting in the birth of Pan?
Do we have Odysseus and Penelope reuniting by each other’s side at last, or do we see Odysseus exiling Penelope because of her “disloyalty”, so that she wandered in Lacedaemonia and Arcadia to Mantineia where she finally died?
Do we have Athena and Zeus intervening in the fight between Odysseus’s household and the suitors’ family to establish an everlasting peace, or do we leave this matter to Neoptolemus’s hands just to see Odysseus exiled?
Do we make him finish his oar quest and return immediately, or do we keep him in Thesprotia where he marries another woman and had another son and fought another war and returned again?
Do we agree that Telegonus wouldn’t exist, or do we have him stabbing Odysseus marrying Penelope giving his mother Circe to Telemachus to wed?
Do we give Odysseus a peaceful death from the sea, or do we not?
#we love Homer—to what extent? Which detail would you keep in your head and which one would you not?#these are just questions; and I’m curious to hear yall’s answers#you can find all of these in different ancient sources btw#tagamemnon#greek mythology#the iliad#the odyssey#homer’s iliad#homer’s odyssey#the epic cycle#trojan war#lyculī quaestiōnēs#achilles#odysseus#penelope#aegialea#diomedes#clytemnestra#idomeneus
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Fantober day 31!! A free day again.
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Recently gotten into HADES, and I think about them a normal amount (lie)
#THEM. THEM. *SHAKES HANDS IN AIR* THEEEEEEEMMM#Honestly it’s surprising I havent gotten into the fandom sooner I mean I have been a mythology nerd since??? Uhhh#idk. But every week I see a notif from OSP and jump around in my room because YEAAAHHHH HYSTORY MYTHOS AND TROPES YEAHHHHH#And greek mythology is where the interest began so why am I only NOW getting onto the Hades train only god knows. Maybe multiple. They got#a whole pantheon so idk maybe multiple ON THE OTHER HAND they didn’t know about their own relative OR who his mom is so maybe I give them#too much credit#jkjk jk Zeus dont smite me I listen to ‘’Thunder bringer’’ a lot plz#speaking of epic the musical thats what I wanted to draw originality because HAVE YOU BEEN ON THE LIVESTREAM YESTERDAY?#THE ANIMATICSSSS THE ANIMATICCCSSS THE 3D CAUGHT ME OFF GUARD. ODYSSEUS CASUALLY GETTING A JETPACK 💀 okay go off king /gen#HE GOTTA BE DANGEROUS MY FRIENDS GOTTA USE ALL HIS TRICKS IN HIS DOMAIN FOR THIS OH YEAH YOU CANNOT GET AWAY WITH PLAYING- okay I’ll stop#but we need a Hermes saga Im just saying. I love he. He’s such a dawling#…Also not me healing the ivantill trauma with a different silverhair+blackhair duo huh.#They bring me comfort I love my silly goofy god of nothing/blood and his boyfriend THE GRIM REAPER#my art#thanzag#they make me insane but in a good way#oh to be a guy trying to escape his dads house and then die to a butterfly and hopefully see death himself because he’s cute#hades game#hades fanart#hades zagreus#hades thanatos
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Telemachus talking about fighting monsters just to get his Fathers attention…
His Father, Odysseus, who believes he IS the Monster.
#epic#epic the musical#epic: the musical#all I've posted about the last few days are my best friends#…#not that im complaining#i love them#whenever we talk i get so happy#theyre both just so great#and im so honored to be their friend#smiles :3#the odyssey#homer#greek mythology#my post#telemachus#odysseus
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Okay- the community has spoken that Trans Telemachus is very much being supported here and a fun possible head cannon for a lot of people
But the question is, is Telemachus Trans fem or Trans masc??
(I’ve seen a lot of votes for Trans masc and Odysseus fucking up the sirens for misgendering his son. But I’ve also seen arguments for Trans fem Telemachus as when Odysseus comes home, she comes out to her dad)
#This is all silly#Not an actual competition#Just being a little silly billy#epic the musical#telemachus epic the musical#trans telemachus real??#trans telemachus#God damn it now I want to write a fanfic of trans fem Telemachus coming out to Odysseus-#I want people to fight on this#Be oh so serious#Defend your answer to the death#But also we are all very supportive here#And we all love and support Tele and the trans community either way :)#Neither trans fem nor trans masc is better#we love and support them equally#And they’re both just as valid all the same#This is all just for shits and giggles
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Everyone says that Not Sorry For Loving You is sad, and yeah I see it, but personally I think Charydbis is sadder.
Just hearing Odysseus sing how he’s holding on, even years later. Twenty years later and he’s still holding on. Still waiting to get home to see his wife and son. And at the end when he finally sees Ithaca again he sounds so sad, but hopeful. He’s home finally and tells Penelope to hold on for him. He’s finally coming home. But then heartbreak again when Poseidon shows up.
The whole thing just makes me sad because all he’s wanted since the beginning was to go home. To see his wife and now it’s all for nothing when Poseidon comes again.
All in all though both songs are amazing. They all are.
#epic the musical#epic poseidon#epic odysseus#epic charybdis#epic not sorry for loving you#epic vengeance saga#We don’t have to worry#he goes crazy and stabs Poseidon#so it’s all gonna be fine 🙃#I’m not that good at writing my thoughts on things but I just needed to get this out
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Shout to the girls with dyslexia in group chats with people who are caught up with Malevolent and grossly misread Kayne's name until meeting him (it's me.)
#graedari doodles#malevolent#malevolent podcast#john doe malevolent#arthur lester#kanye malevolent#digital art#ipad#procreate#apple pen#this was drawn in a haze and i apologize to all Kayne lovers (thats you Rhysie)#Kaynes design here also isnt final#i dont have a solid image of him in my head yet so stay tuned ig for when i get around to that#i just know i want him silly#this is inspired by that one art someone did of the Odyssey of Odysseus and his crew pointing at Polyphemus saying “POLYAMOROUS!”#kayne girlie im so sorry i butchered your name#my dyslexia....#graedari malevolent#fuck the queue we die like all of arthurs loved ones
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Hi guys do you avoid other peoples interpretations (any form, including but not limited to reaction videos, fanfic/art, analyses, etc) of your interests because you’re worried they’d Get Something Wrong or not React Correctly and perpetuate this Wrongness to their audience and there’s nothing you can do to correct it but you also adore watching reactions and other interpretations of your interests bc you get to see others experience the same joy your interest brings you and it’s like reliving the peak of your obsession and you get to see your favorite piece of media analyzed from a different pov or are you normal
#I have issues I fear#yes this is totally about epic BCJDJS I HAVE BEEN AVOIDING ATHENA AO3 EVER SINCE ITHACA DROPPED#even though I’d been checking it religiously every single day since wisdom saga dropped#I personally loved ichbw’s conclusion of ody Athena but I know other people don’t and I know it’s valid but also#*glances at my 1870 word essay#it drives me insane if I read a fic written by someone who clearly disliked their conclusion#knowing there’s basically nothing I can do to change their minds#all opinions are valid and all!! I get why people would be dissatisfied but I just think it’s realistic and heartbreaking but also-#-ties up Athena’s arc and the shows thesis IMMACULATELY#maybe in another world that Athena can make happen#that WE can make happen#Athena and Odysseus could’ve really stayed friends in the end#a world where Odysseus wouldn’t have had to change this way#also yeah I just have issues I fear#oopsies I just dropped major analysis points in the tags#xria rambles#I say this is about epic but this happened with all of my most recent hyperfixations
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I just watched a stunning performance of the trojan women and the amount of visceral rage I felt at every injustice is almost unmatched to anything I’ve ever felt before
#not to be a misandrist but I think we should kill all men#that fucking meme was right I do want to beat odysseus and the rest of the achaean men to death#NO ONE IS HAPPY IN THAT PLAY#I KNOW ITS A TRAGEDY BUT FUCK DUDE CUT ME SOME SLACK 😭#the way all the kings voted to KILL HELEN?????#girl WHAT WERE YOU FIGHTING FOR FOR TEN YEARS?????#(lets be honest we all know that war was about more than helen but ffs)#the hardest parts were andromache being told that astyanax is to be killed and cassandra’s beautiful monologue where she calls polyxena-#-lucky for being killed instead of enslaved#just#terrible all around#but I loved it tho#the trojan women#euripides#greek tragedy#tagamemnon
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Why is it that I can be reduced to tears at a few notes of the viola every single time Penelope's theme plays
#literally was just listening to the circe saga#and when in 'there are other ways' odysseus says no to circe and just this small snippet of penelope's theme plays in the background#i just. AAUUGHH i can't TAKE THIS#also 'and she's all my power; all my power' makes me INSANEEEEEE#why am i so insane about these two i don't understand#idk something something ody loves penelope so much that the love is transferred to the audience#and we love this woman who we haven't even met yet#i was also listening to monster a while back and man that song brings me to tears every single time#...also 'just a man' gets me good too#..there is at least one song in every saga where i get all teary eyed tbh. some have more than one#jorge you can't keep doing this to me#also i'd say sorry for the epic posting but tbh i'm 1) not sorry 2) not even posting as much as i have to say#because if i did that all i'd do is post unhinged and indecipherable yelling 24/7#send help this shit is taking over my brain#personal#epic the musical
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LISTEN I hope telemachus tries to lean on Athena every single time she shows up. It NEVER works. but he still tries. Because he loves her.
#Epic the musical#Wisdom saga#Slight spoiler for wisdom saga#MY FAVORITE MOMENT WHEN TELEMCHAUS TRIES TO LEAN ON ATHENA AND THEN FLOPS THREW HER#I LOVE IT SO MUCH#He does it every single time#Headcanon that he does this with penelope all the time#And then (ironically more) cationously with odysseus later#This is just how telemachus shows affection so of course he does it to athena#Odysseus:...child you know she's not really here right? You've gotten concussions from doing that quit it#Telemchaus: but 🥺🥺 what if I stop an Athena thinks I don't love her anymore 🥺🥺😭#Odysseus: visibly having a flash back to how Athena treated him at 20 (bodily yeeting him Into the palace wall for funsies#To teach him about sneak attacks). Kid I promise she does not care#Athena: trying to stroking telemachus's hair muttering to herself gently gently were going to be so gentle this time. Just like we practice#Athena: It's okay telemachus we just have to teach you how to fall properly so you don't get hurt I love your leans#Odysseus: losing his goddamn mind he's NOT jealous of his son he's NOT were was this when Athena was training him as a child???
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I wish someone had told me that the return's version of penelope thinks the horrors are horrifying. trigger warning: no one thinks murder's fun in this 😢
#fooled by a gifset again 😔 when will I learn#but anyway it wasn't even just penelope it was everything. literally disliked every minute.#everything that makes the odyssey and odypen and odysseus fun to me just wasn't there at all#the point it clearly tried to make really wasn't that deep AND it was made with 0 subtlety. pick a struggle#I even hated the bed! and I always LOVE the bed! wdym you made it so unappealing to me I didn't even feel anything#anyway. it's fine I'll just re-(re-re-re-)read again even though we know love's landscape ☺️#mine
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Ngl I dont really understand not sorry for loving you
#odysseus saying 'i love you' when he does makes it sound like a lie (whoch i would understand)#but he folloes it up with 'but not the way you want me to' makes it sound like hes telling the truth#*follows#which i do not understand at all#why would he love her#is it trying to imply she trauma bonded him or like what#also i just dont understand why we need to hear more from calypso here in general#epic the musical#vengeance saga spoilers#my post
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