#watchers lore

[arisveah]

we really glossed over the nosy neighbors way too quickly imo. like, "always watching" in the first season w obvious eldritch interaction??? and martyn won??? and the room is still silent?!?! youre telling me these wet cats went around and stared at people all season, to the point where they desensitized people to them watching, in the game controlled by the watchers, which had the most wild betrayal and subsequent victor of all and nobody, cares???

[mansa1212]

ONLY BITE! @inthelittlewood

Individual artworks:

Forever annoyed that I like the sketch more^

The last big dog uof uof!

Watch the youtube version here

[a-sociopath-do-your-research]

I'm here to say y'all, Evo lore fans, I GET that it's angstier to make it like Grian was yoinked against his will to join the watchers but. If you read the ending poem or whatever, he seems… chill? Like, maybe upset but he's accepted it? Idk. Just when people make it like Grian was dragged away and he didn't want to come with, he was like "welp it's my time to go but I'll still watch over y'all!!" And I think that's more sweet??? He HAD to go, but he decided to use his powers to look over his friends

[arianjpeg]

I wrote down the things Martyn said about his lore during the stream (mostly about the poems), here's what I could put together in short time:

Episode 04:

Every grain that passes come to rest - Time passing

A pilar built another test - Beginning of the watchers influence on betraying Scott. Also another layer of the Watchers putting Martyn above the other players because they have interest on him, he's fun to torment and while being very loyal, he's happy to switch on people if need be. During "another test" we hear the tone of the tune when the boogeyman is picked, but pitched down.

These fickle fields, unguided hand - Recognition that Ren wasn't on this season, so a switch on Martyn's comfort and familiarity.

Forever molding in the sands - The idea that all would wash up on the shore

The thrill to kill, the fleeting gill - Excitement of betraying someone and how fragile the alliance was.

All washed ashore to settle still - Same of "forever molding in the sands"

A single day and then it's gone - About their timers.

Episode 07:

Pause, unpause. We paralyze - Recognition of the AFK episode and Grian's role within the story, bringing a more joyous yet chaotic side, which is bad for the Watchers since they feed in negative emotions. Text is in upper case cause the Watchers are pissed at Grian.

A vacant stare. For wandering eyes - Watchers being able to paralyze Grian and make him a bystander on the game, trying their best to get rid of him. Forcing him to only watch.

Canary call, the first to fall - Jimmy's death (reference to the canary in coal mine story)

Forever caged in different walls - The nature of the loop of the games and how it's happening again and again, with him dying first

Echoes bring for brief exchange - The listeners are a temporary wrinkle

Disruptions by the ones estranged - The listeners managed to interrupt the games briefly to replace Pearl and Cleo. Lizzie was tapped in cause Pearl hasn't quite recovered from the events of Double Life and was really traumatized. Cleo had never made it so far before Double Life so it took a toll on her, she never witnessed this much destruction before. Cleo and Pearl don't know they got swapped.

Martyn said this about Joel recognizing Lizzie and I had to quote cause it broke me:

"It makes sense that Joel was the only one to recognize Lizzie for being soulmates and married in another life. Joel will always recognize Lizzie no matter what, no matter when"

Our gaze would bring untimely deaf - For a listener to not hear anymore it would be close to death, symbolically.

"None of the Evo players are Listeners. Only Grian has become a Watcher, but everyone else is a player"

Episode 08:

The vignette at the end of Martyn's episode is the Watchers getting more and more frustrated (they hate Scott for refusing to play along, Impulse being willing to die and ruining the negative emotions, annoyed at the Listeners for swapping bodies before). The ending was too civil and nice for their taste.

It's not the Watchers fully possessing Martyn, they're feeding negative emotions into him and making him angrier than he should be. The Watchers wanted a show.

A reminder that it can't always end civil, a reminder of why they're there.

Martyn wanted to add clips of voice lines of important moments of c!Martyn during the count down but there wasn't enough time for that

The main voice on each number of the count down:

10 - Jimmy

9 - Pearl

8- Grian

7- Impulse

6- Scott

5- Etho

(After that it doesn't really has a main one).

Poem

There are some who watch, we are those who listen - The Listeners speaking. c!Martyn isn't really responsive or aware of what's happening

Not yet free - The cycle will continue

Still you flee from a weighted decision - Recognition that they were trying to run away from the Watchers on Evo. Also about the betrayal on Scott.

Woven the fragments that make up a soul:

A fragment isn't a shard of the Vtuber lore. The fragments were losses on the life series, a large fragment is lost from his soul/body after experiencing a great amount of distress.

The one in his chest represents Double Life, the one on his hand is Limited Life and the one on his face is Third Life (on his cheek, representing a tear after Ren fell, Ren's death broke him and made c!Martyn more selfish). The one for Last Life is beneath his clothing, between his shoulder blades.

Because of his win, one of the Listeners "cures" the fragment on his hand. They're trying to free/liberate him, while the Watchers are trying to feed on him.

His character is in a constant state of falling at the end because it's the only fear humans are born with, so the Watchers can feed of something while waiting for the next game.

Evo is part of the timeline, while other SMP's (hermitcraft, empires) are almost like other planes. While they're on the subconscious state they can go to these other planes.

c!Martyn doesn't know about anything going on. He gets a glimpse of the truth on Last Life but he didn't comprehend it. c!Grian is aware

Watchers thoughts on some members:

The watchers have a slight grip with all the Evo members

They're slightly fond towards Skizz and Joel because they tend to be chaotic.

They hate Scott. So much.

They took Lizzie and Mumbo out of rotation because the Watchers thought they couldn't take another season on a row, they would be too broken.

That's what I could note down while watching the stream, hopefully it makes enough sense!

[sunstormbudgie]

I'm curious about how many people in the life series fandom have actually watched evo at all

like not even the whole thing, even just a tiny bit

[diaruchann]

The beginning and the end.

Just a little something I did in class.

I'm not over Secret Life yet:')

[rosaacicularis]

thinking about just how much this season subverted tropes… makes me wonder about watchers and the act (or the lack there of) of intervening…. because this season they had the most power and reach but everything we had previously blamed on them…. didn't happen

[blue-birds-cry-09]

My thing with the finale is Limited Life is a point of no return for the series in the best way possible.

The server is a mess, sky bridges and explosion holes everywhere. It looks the most like an anarchy server it ever has right?

Everyone knows the drill. Some are desperate to escape. Some are starting to enjoy it. Alliances and groups last for long, but not long enough it seems.

Martyn may have set a new standard, every man for himself. Only one can win, so why trust others?

How far will they go?

How far will They push them?

[robby-bobby-tommy]

And another post this day, just as a treat.

I've drawn it before session 5 so lore might be a bit outdated.

But here it is anyway.

Don't ask why watchers look so bad and why Martyn literally has no legs.

[ohnonotthehorrors]

I like to think that SMPs (particularly Traffic Life) are run on ‘yes and’ and ‘Commit to the Bit’ rules. By that I mean: the world itself will take a running joke and make it true.

This is partly because of the players themselves, (their belief and humor shaping the world) but more to do with the Watchers. As stand ins for the audience, what they believe/imagine has direct impact on the characters. From a life series stand point that’d be: giving Jimmy canary wings, handing out curses, messing with people’s memories, etc.

It’s not that the watchers are acting maliciously—as again, they’re a stand in for the audience—but rather they’re influencing the story unintentionally.

[arisveah]

jaiden animations generation zero? jaiden animations in generation loss? aimsey? aimsey generation loss? from aimsey, geminitay generation loss? hermitcraft generation loss? life series generation loss? WATCHERS GENERATION LOSS?

[buckets-of-jam]

im trying to watch all the content of my hyperfixation but theres so much and i wanna know all of it NEOWWW and i cant physically get it into my brain fast enough and im like aggressively watching videos as hard as i can LFMAO

[floweroflaurelin]

The Gambler’s Prayer

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Please tell me you’ve all seen the reel Jimmy posted… 👀🐤🙏

[echosoftheflower]

Does anyone want me to make a summary of the canon Watcher/Listener lore from Evo? Cause I've seen a good amount of Evo.

[calocreek]

Grian is a human!! (part 1 possibly)

(my minecraft + mcyt tag)

[mowukamoon]

Here’s my pitch, Scott as a speaker. One, he’s cyan. Two, he’s not currently associated with a faction. Three, he’s fairly intertwined with lore things. Four, one of his main strengths in the Life series is his charisma. Five, I just think it would be neat.

Is there a lore reason as to why people usually associate the Watchers with purple and the Listeners with yellow/green? What are the colors you associate with the Watchers, Listeners, and Speakers?

Also, is there a collective name for the Watchers, Listeners, and Speakers, or are we all doomed to list all three separate names for eternity? :P

It might be my old age but I don't recall ever establishing the colourings. I think that was solely audience led and I really enjoy them, I'd never change 'em!

I even adapted them in to the shadow robes in Last Life etc.

Speakers are a big unknown atm, that was very much a joke when I said it on stream but it's a narrative avenue I've always had banked (as well as the collective name, I do have one in my lore doc but it's not concrete)