#watch tag: the acolyte

[orionis13]

Jecki for @groovygrayvy <333 hope nothing bad happens to her!!!

[kelzen]

[psychomusic]

so. I've been reading some posts on the jedi order tag AND i won't talk about my opinion on "are jedi good or bad discourse" BUT i wanna point out some lore to everyone who's complaining about the jedi taking kids into their order: (in the EU) it wasn't always like this.

if you take swtor era (more than 3000 years before the prequels) there were many jedi who joined at an older age. like, for example there was a guy who broke his engagement to become one. most jedi remember their families because they were old enough when they decided to go.

THEN in darth bane's book trilogy (circa 1000 yesrs before the prequels) there is a passage where two sith lords are talking about taking bane, already an adult, to study at korriban. one doubted him because he was too old, ans the other told him he sounded like a jedi, and that ONE DAY jedi will have to accept only kids into their ranks if they really want to find "pure" people that can learn their lessons quicker.

one day!! so it wasn't always like that!! the ongoing wars with the sith, who corrupted and killed many of them, had pressured them into taking always younger people into their ranks.

also, consider a thing that this video explains super well: training to become a jedi is not like exercising, because there is a transformative lesson at the end of the training that changes everything. you can't just do as much as you can, but not finish.

the transformative lesson, as the video explains, is that through the force, everything is the same - from rocks and ships to life and death. at the end of the training you have to understand this fundamental truth.

yoda says "you have to unlearn what you have learned". during times where they were constantly killed off or corrupted by the dark side (and if you haven't learned this lesson you are more susceptible to this corrupting), younger people were taken in to actually finish their training (a training that was ultimately about being a good person AND that you could leave at any point if you weren't sold on that, too)

(remember that for the sith failure = death. like. that was the alternative for force sensitive kids. it's not like sith had any moral problem with taking kids away without consent. sith don't have moral problems: they believe that them being stronger in the force means they can do whatever they want as long as their strong enough to go and do it. there are MANY passages in many different star wars stories, even in different mediums, that say this out loud)

AND (this is more of a critical thought than just stating the lore) the fact that they started doing it out of necessity doesn't mean it's 100% good BUT you know. the whole set up of the prequels is that we're starting off the story in a period of crisis and decadence all around. most of the systems of the times were about to fall. OF COURSE they had problems. if they didn't, we wouldn't have the story to begin with.

that doesn't automatically mean jedi = bad and sith are better, tho. you wouldn't take the last, chaotic and decadent period to jugde something, would you? it's like deciding that the athenian democracy sucked because people at the times of Demosthenes failed at recognizing the new schemes in which the world was evolving into, and still believed that their city would be important as it had been in the previous century. They just didn't fucking expect the Macedons would conquer half the world known and more, and have the subsequent political power. Still, their experiences in the 5th century with democracy were very good, even better than ours on many fronts, if you contextualize a little. the jedi had flaws, and most importantly, they didn't fucking know the future and everything that ever happened, ever, so they made mistakes. that doesn't automatically make the system ill, or bad, or not-working. systems can have setbacks when the world changes. (just like athenian democracy had one when they lost the empire that was funding the democracy. they even had a tyranny for a while and then fixed the problems. that doesn't diminish retrospectively their democracy)

[notyourmoon4528]

Oh my moons

This took me forever

I regret nothing

But at some point Osha takes over Mae's role 😂 cause I didn't have enough videos of Mae killing 😞

So its

Qimir- 👑( Queen of hearts)

Mae -❤️(Red)

Sol- 👠(Cinderella)

Osha- 🗡️/❤️ (Chole/Red)

I actually like how it came out 🤣

Sol is Cinderella, change my mind.

Somehow I reached 30 tags . . .

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[bereft-of-frogs]

I'm wondering if my longstanding refusal to watch the 2008 Clone Wars is contributing to my utter inability to comprehend all the 'star wars is RUINED' complaints.

if I can contentedly exist refusing to acknowledge the thing that 99% of the fandom considers to be essential canon, that makes up the majority of the fanworks, art, and posts, I think you can handle disregarding one self-contained, 8 episode series that takes place a hundred years before anything else if you really want to. I really think you're going to live.

[dealingdreams]

The Acolyte s01e02: Revenge/Justice

Same style as last time. I'll give some thoughts as I watch all condensed into this one post...then some final thoughts at the end.

Again obvi there will be episode spoilers but I have finished the season so I will possibly reference future stuff as well.

Let's goooo

Notes while watching:

First of all I fucking love the episode titles

Still love Mae's outfit. I think it's genuinely one of the coolest costumes in all of star wars

Osha is so fucking hot...like how is her sitting up from that bed so attractive to me

I feel like if Osha said that 'im way more flexible' line to Qimir he would have a stroke

Yord pisses me off. He just wants to be right. Know-it-all

The snow makes me miss winter. Fucking hate summer

Qimir makes me giggle, like so much

I still think the fact that the stranger created the Qimir persona to be like a kinda friend to Mae. Someone to help Mae along with her test...it is interesting to me.

Sol commenting on Osha's tattoo is such a dad thing

Jecki kneeling down to be eye level with that kid was cute

I feel like the folks that think Mae's characterization is inconsistent just like...haven't paid attention. She was always open to justice over revenge.

Osha hearing Mae call to her and leading her to Torbin is another example of how Osha isnt as cut off from the force as she thinks

Osha and Qimir's first meeting crack me up. It's adorable. The way he drops his act and invades her space and gives her those eyes its intense

"Ah, i thought he was with you"

I love Sol's fight with Mae. Like he's such a badass

Mae is like 'for my next trick' poof gone lol

Sol is so pretty 😍

Qimir's instincts are amazing

General thoughts:

So I think this was the weakest episode of the season. It was a lot of set up I think. Still really liked it. Obviously the highlights for me was Qimir in general and Osha being hot, angry, and smart.

I think it's interesting also because while we perceive that Mae is the bad twin and Osha is the good twin I think this episode is when really start seeing the direction these characters are going to take. With Mae offering justice over getting revenge vs Osha getting called out by Sol of wanted revenge even tho she says she wants justice.

For Mae finding out Osha was alive put her on the path of justice but for Osha finding out Mae was alive put her on the path of revenge. The concept of as above so below for them is still holding true.

[across-stars]

''they're not here for me.'' okay rn my thoughts are Sol will kill Qimir, Vernestra will see this. How to defeat a Jedi without a weapon? Have his fellow Jedi turn against him

[weirdo-from-bonesborough]

I think it’d be real funny if they went the baby yoda route where they call him “The Stranger” on all official content/merch even though we’re all calling him qimir and when they finally do reveal his real name it will be like a whole Thing on Twitter

[maulfucker]

Uh oh. Hot villain. In my head

[punk-dad-sharkz]

i can't fucking believe jecki AND yord got killed. I'm not surprised they did it bc its star wars, man, but good lord did it hurt me in the feels.

[shortson]

ok i don’t consume a lot of star wars media but i started the acolyte a couple of days ago so i wanted to have a little google search about it and imdb has it rated at a whopping 3.5 out of 10…….. someone…………. help me out here because is there a reason that i’m missing why it’s been received so poorly? like ok 6/10, 7/10 you know that’s fine whatever but 3.5! i am CONFUSED help

[ettelwenailinon]

just found out that the acolyte got cancelled and I'm just so.

I'm so fed up with getting involved with a new western show that just gets cancelled before it has the chance to become something. like was it the most thrilling sitting on the edge of the sofa show ever? no. but what new show is in its first season when you don't really know the characters yet. and it wasn't even brand new with nothing to its name, it was star wars!! star wars!! it was finally a new story that didn't involve the skywalkers, it offered fresh new characters, in a star wars era not really explored on tv before. it could have developed into something new and exciting with new cool bits of lore. and there were cool bits of lore!! and it could have tied with the later skywalker stories as well!! the twins being pretty much created from the force, were they potentially leading up to how anakin was conceived? we will never know because people endlessly and loudly whined how the show is boring and not worth watching and killed it before it could even start.

[chissjedi]

I feel such a dissonance around The Acolyte because everything I see outside the show, behind the scenes quotes and interviews, all seem completely unrelated to what happened in the show itself.

It is weird and frustrating because I am actually really enjoying the show. Yet, everytime I try to learn more about it, it ignores or contradicts the things I saw and liked.

[maaruin]

For a moment I thought Osha would die at the end of Episode 4. Would have been a big twist, but I would have liked it. Osha and Mae are linked enough that the story could have been continued with Mae.

[yeehawgeek]

hey, folks who’re watching acolyte, how is it so far?

[corellianhounds]

Longer post later but I was disappointed with The Acolyte