#warp effect ep8

[alejunsu]

Warp Effect

No podía dejar de publicar esta pareja que me encanta, y es que estos dos tienen tremenda química ArmyJoe

Ep 4

Ep 6

Ep 8

Necesito les den una serie a estos dos como protagonistas por que tremenda química tienen y de seguro no defraudarían

[gunsatthaphan]

“what can we do then?”

[waitmyturtles]

Every single damn time I watch a Jojo show, I'm screaming THIS IS THE BEST SHOW EVERRRRR

[red-ro5es]

i Know the writers are probably setting it up for jean and Alex but that is SUCH a bad idea I will riot if they get together

(If someone asks I’ll happily lay out my reasoning <3)

[lesbixch]

i was reading someones post on sayaka here and i generally agreed w it but i wanted to write my own thoughts on sayaka, reading her as a young girl who... fundamentally hates herself. like i think ppl dont notice that she doesnt like herself in the beginning of the story and they think it comes out of nowhere. but her self hate motivates literally everything she does in pmmm. i think people miss that the cause effect structure here, thinking that sayaka does things and that makes her hate herself. to me it is more that sayaka hates herself, therefore she does things to punish herself, to self harm, to self sabotage, and occasionally scrambles to do something for other people to try to drown out that self hate - which of course rarely works. not very coherent, but heres 5 points under the cut

discussion of suicide self harm and depression tw

1. in the background of pmmm, sayaka has known kyosuke since they were little. presumably she started liking him bc he was good at violin and she.... probably wasnt. she was kinda sorta friends w him but not really, and pmmm (and hitomi) make it very clear that she has struggled w confessing to him. this already hints at her not having high self esteem. when she tries to make him feel better after his accident, she brings him CDs to listen to in the hospital. im reading into it but i genuinely dont think sayaka thinks of herself as interesting enough to just TALK to kyousuke while hes there. she NEEDS another thing to take the attention off her - music - to even interact w him. she doesnt think that her presence, her being there as a FRIEND is going to cheer him up all that much. like she brings up music as a conversational topic and physically brings CDs for kyousuke to listen to enough times that HE starts interpreting it as some kind of cruel joke shes playing on him. this to me is a sign that she does not like herself, and she doesnt understand why other ppl would like her as a person either, unless she was doing something for them.

(theres also smth to be said abt how much of her crush on kyosuke is bc she likes HIM as a person, rather than his talent, or after his accident, the idea that she can help him and feel useful herself. in some sense she tries to use him to feel valued and not hate herself. it doesnt work)

the important part here is that theres already signs that sayaka doesnt like herself, she doesnt have much self esteem, and she attempts to boost her self esteem by doing things for other people.

2. so sayaka doesnt really like herself. in the early eps, she talks about how unfair it is that people like her have a safe life and are offered a wish while many others struggle without having the same opportunity. extrapolating here, you can make the argument that sayaka doesnt like herself and doesnt think herself deserving of the happy safe life that others want so much. to be offered a wish on top of it feels like yet another thing to hate abt herself. she doesnt deserve a wish! she has not suffered enough to get a wish! shes guilty over it! shes safe, shes well fed, she has a roof over her head, and her self hate warps her mindset in such a way that she thinks of being offered a wish not as a happy fortunate event, but as something that reveals that she is stupid. she quite literally frames her caution around making a wish as being stupid and naive.....

there isnt really the language about 'deserving' in this scene, thats me reading into this a lot, but i do think later eps fit the same general theme. sayaka is a hero of justice fighting witches to save other people, but do other people deserve to be saved? (cough cough ep8 train scene). does she deserve to be saved? does she deserve to have a happy life? does she deserve to try a relationship with kyousuke? does she deserve to have madoka as a friend? does she deserve to be treated with kindness/pity by kyoko? i'd argue that the wish conversation in ep2 sets up these series of questions about what sayaka deserves pretty well. this scene, this early on, tells us that sayaka already feels guilt at being safe and okay. why should she be happy or safe when other people suffer. it just takes a little more self hate to push her into "i dont actually deserve to be happy or safe", which drives her self harm self hate spiral later.

3. sayakas attempts desperately to feel better abt herself by doing things for other people. early on she takes on the role of madokas protector, driving homura away with the fire extinguisher and promising to beat homura up - mami laughs and is like Anyway if something happens ill be there to protect you, which sayaka gets upset at. its played for laughs, and yet, if we take seriously the way that sayaka builds her self esteem up as a protector (of madoka, of kyosuke, of the people, of justice), it does smart a little. of course sayaka would be inclined to become a magical girl if it means she can protect others, which mami implies she cannot quite do as a regular girl. later sayaka wants to help mami - she brings a bat to a witch fight - and fails to help mami in any way in ep3. her helplessness, her guilt, her self hate all factor into her decision to become a magical girl. only then can she truly protect people right? only then will she be actually worth something, will she deserve to be alive?

now that ive argued my point that theres seeds planted early on that sayaka doesnt like herself, doesnt have self esteem, thinks of herself as worthless if she doesnt do things for others - it casts all her later actions as self sabotaging and self harming, and purposefully so, even if sayaka may not call it that. she takes the actions she takes bc she doesnt like herself, and it fuels her self hate, and she spirals into more and more self destructive actions in turn.

4. sayaka is weak as a magical girl - kyoko shows her that - and she is no longer needed by kyousuke, so her attempts at helping and protecting people fail to make her feel better. if shes weak, she cant protect people, and thus shes worthless. if she wishes for kyousuke to be healed, and he doesnt know, he wont thank her, and he wont like her, and he wont need her since the healing is already done. because sayaka fundamentally hates herself and thinks herself worthless, one act done to help someone isnt nearly enough to make her love or even value herself. especially when she can never be recognized for it.

(hitomi fits in here too - she will never know sayaka outright saved her in ep4, and sayaka will never get recognition or gratitude for it. instead, from sayakas POV, hitomi will basically betray her for it)

and heres where the spiraling/cyclical hate kicks in. she hates herself, so she thinks it selfish and horrible to ask for recognition/gratitude/being liked back in turn. but because she hates herself, she needs external recognition, gratitude, being liked back in turn to feel better about herself, to not feel worthless. she hates herself, so she doesnt talk to kyousuke at all (she doesnt deserve it), but not getting his attention, recognition, gratitude, kindness etc also makes her hate herself. she cant win, bc she cannot let herself win.

when hitomi brings up kyousuke, sayaka feels a burst of regret for saving her, and it fuels her self hate yet again - magical girls cant wish death on people!! she cant accept hitomis compromise to allow sayaka to confess first, bc she is ashamed of being a soulless husk. but she cant just accept that hitomi and kyousuke might get together bc... she wants to be needed and liked by them, especially kyousuke. she doesnt want to be a burden, a third wheel, a forgotten worthless friend. she wants to be special to someone, namely kyousuke. she wants to be needed and liked this desperately bc... she hates herself. huh! everything seems to come down to sayaka hating herself at the root of it !! she sabotages herself bc she hates fundamentally herself!!! if there is an option for sayaka to be better, she refuses it because she doesnt deserve to feel better, even if she wants to be better on some level - bc she hates herself !!!!!!!

relatedly, at any point in time, sayaka can ask for help from homura or madoka (or at least try), but she refuses to, bc she thinks she doesnt deserve it. she hates that she is weak enough to need help, it makes her hate herself more. kyubey plays on this by talking abt how much more powerful madoka would be as a magical girl than sayaka, and sayaka starts feeling resentful and jealous, and that fuels her self hate even more. i interpret the scene in ep8 where she lashes out at madoka as partially her resentment boiling up, but also partially a cry for help. she cannot ask for help the regular way, she can only do so in this indirect "well if ur so powerful why dont u take my place and suffer for me huh???" way, and it still fuels more self hate - this time not bc shes weak enough to be asking madoka to bail her out, but bc she purposefully hurts madoka. we can also interpret this scene as sayaka purposefully lashing out to drive madoka off bc she doesnt deserve to be with madoka anymore - a hollow husk, weak, worthless, and now feeling jealousy and resentment and not just self hate but hate towards hitomi, kyousuke, madoka. she could never deserve madokas kindness.

5. sayaka kind of knows shes self harming. shes def aware of it even if she wont admit it to other ppl. like i think she very purposefully does things that will hurt her bc, at her very core, she believes she deserves to hurt. she fundamentally hates herself and so will hurt herself and sabotage her relationships. she doesnt deserve to be safe, she doesnt deserve to not hurt, she doesnt deserve happiness, she doesnt deserve other peoples kindness. ive seen people frame it more as her blundering into yet another thing that spikes her self hate, and i just disagree with that. ive used the word purposefully in this post a bajillion times bc i think to a large extent sayaka is very cognizant of the actions shes taking. she knows being w madoka and asking for help would be better in the long run, but she purposefully doesnt do it. its self punishment, its self harm, its self sabotage so she gets even worse. its penance, and her wrongdoing is existing in the first place.

she actively and purposefully destroys her relationships, and refuses help. its an active choice, and she knows she will feel worse bc of it, but bc she hates herself and thinks herself undeserving, she carries out all these choices and actions. i think when people dont think deeply on this, they feel like sayaka is acting stupid bc "why doesnt she just do X, shes acting so stupidly" etc. but in sayakas mindset everything shes doing is crystal clear. there is no way other than to make herself suffer more and more.

its bc its framed as a willful, purposeful descent into suicidal depression that i see sayakas depression as one of the most meaningful arcs to me. i think when you are mentally ill and severely depressed, all her actions make intuitive sense. she starts out not liking herself, and everything onward is just her fueling her own self hate. thats how depression functions. it feels irrational on the outside and completely rational and sensical to the person carrying out these actions. her mindset is severely warped ofc - im not even gonna get into how her blackwhite thinking abt justice and fairness factors into this - but it makes sense to her. she doesnt see this as "i am depressed and i hate myself and i am getting more and more suicidal", but more so as "oh. im a worthless shell of a person who has never deserved anything! i cannot let myself strive for happiness in life". sayaka is not bumbling into this as a hapless victim, shes charging into suicide bc she cannot see a way out, and she cannot let herself see a way out. shes wallowing, shes punishing herself, shes sabotaging herself to the point where she wants to die more than she wants to live, and where she curses the world as a witch more than she wishes for something as a magical girl.

so much of madoka is abt agency to me, and that includes sayaka. im not saying depression is a choice, but self destruction IS - this is reflected in madokas own apotheosis/deification/enlightenment, whatever u call it. its again a question abt whether u would make a choice (or a wish) without knowing fully it entails. would you commit suicide if you knew things would get better? if you knew that you werent worthless, if you could believe it? i (maybe wishfully?) like to believe that sayaka gets to know this in rebellion - that there is a way for her to exist without constant pain and self hate, that living isnt something that is deserved but something that everyone should have, that she has people who care for her - and it makes her much less self destructive in turn.

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The Warp Effect EP5-EP8

My dude Army, what happened between the two of you?

Alex, being a well-meaning gremlin at 27: 🧹🧹🧹🧹🧹🧹

They have sooo much chemistry, and their characters are great!

Oooof, Army and Joe!

What I totally love is how gentle Army is! Always kissing and hugging. What a guy!

[feydpauls]

reveal your watch & rewatch list

tagged by lovely @guzhu-furen 

currently watching: gap the series, between us, never let me go, triage

rewatching: nothing, but i plan on rewtaching kinnporsche and the eclipse before my break is over

plan to watch: big dragon, roommates of poongduck, my tooth your love, choco milkshake, the warp effect, ghost host ghost house and a bunch of others i can’t remember rn

to finish: war of y (i stopped at ep8 i think... it was just too intense for me)

tagging @snimeat @dreamedofyou @ficklevisions @bfjeff no pressure tho <3

[masterpiecella]

Warp Effect - minutagens Army/Joe com contextos

Ep 1 01:00 - 03:23 [essa cena é a abertura e explica o contexto geral e entender um pouco o Alex] 11:33 - 15:59 [apresenta o Army e a relação que ele tem com o Alex, personagem principal] 27:31 - 28:46 [contexto geral, é aniversário do Alex, ele ganha uma câmera de presente, o que vai ser importante, por isso coloquei aqui.] 45:15 - 45:25 [o Alex saí tirando foto de todo mundo na festa, essas fotos serão importantes no futuro, como deve saber na série tem uma dobra no tempo que só vai acontecer por conta dessas fotos, nessa minutagem ele flagra o Army e o Joe, mas tá muito bêbado e nem nota] 45:46 - 46:36 [Army e Joe então fazem isso aqui com o Alex e é a foto que eles batem que colocam no mesmo balaio, e na dobra do tempo]

ep 2 01:44 - 04:26 [já na dobra do tempo, Alex agora é um ginecologista e o Army é andrologista, os dois são amigos] 36:55 - 39:29 [Army aparece para acordar o Alex para o trabalho]

ep 3 18:06 - 18:35 [Army, é assumidamente gay] 18:38 - 20:22 [Army explica como que que é a vida sexual dele e como os dois se tornaram amigos] 37:21 - 38:34 [Alex pedir ajuda para o Army sobre os exames ginecológicos]

ep4 01:00 - 02:06 [Alex e o Army brigam] 02:18 - 03:18 [Army entra em um aplicativo para ter encontros] 11:25 - 19:32 [Army marca um encontro com um garoto, mas dá tudo errado por causa de uma coisa, então ele leva o garoto para escola e é aí que ele se encontra o Joe] 32:48 - 33:38 [Army toma banho e se lembra dos dois] 36:18 - 42:25 [Army se arruma e resolve ir atrás do Joe, aqui acontece aquela cena do vídeo curto]

ep5 00:36 - 02:16 [Army encontra uma caixa cheia de fotos dele e do Joe, no meio encontra uma foto do Alex vestido de médico, é aí que ele se envolve] 04:28 - 11:24] [Alex chama o Army para conversar, nessa minutagem abrange também a cena em que o Alex explica que veio ao passado e o Army/Alex saem juntos]

ep6 04:26 - 04:36 [Memórias da festa, Army vai atrás do Alex por causa do beijo flagrado] 07:45 - 08:28 [Quase a mesma cena 45:46 - 46:36 do Episódio 1] 12:35 - 14:55 [De volta ao passado, antes da dobra do tempo, o Army chama o Alex para conversar e é assim que eles se tornam amigos] 17:22 - 21:45 [Army termina com a namorada, o Joe o consola, mas algo dá errado e por isso que eles se odeiam no futuro após da dobra do tempo] 25:38 - 26:58 [Ainda no passado que desencadeou o futuro, demonstra a amizade do Army e o Alex]

ep7 05:17 - 07:06 [Army chama o Joe para sair, no futuro após a dobra, eles vão para o bar do Jedi] 11:33 - 14:49 [Nim, a personagem lésbica, ela namorava uma garota no colegial, mas agora está no relacionamento com uma mulher um pouco mais velha que ela, só que a namorada quer ser mãe, mas têm um problema que não pode gerar, então ela pede ajuda para o Alex ser pai. Só que no futuro da dobra do tempo, ele não pode ter ereção, logo a outra opção, é o Army ser o pai da criança que a Nim quer gerar para segurar a namorada] 23:40 - 28:48 [Joe e Army começam a ter um relacionamento, mas por algo que o Joe esconde, ele acha que o relacionamento não pode dar certo]

ep8 05:38 - 09:34 [Por causa disso que o Joe esconde, ele começa a não responder mais as mensagens do Army, então, o Alex resolve que vai ajudar Army/Joe a darem certo] 12:48 - 17:18 [Alex procura o Joe no lugar em que ele trabalha, os dois conversam e o Joe conta o segredo] 31:28 - 35:11 [Army e o Alex vão para o bar do Jedi, e lá Alex tem um insight que resolve o segredo do Joe] 36:43 - 40:46 [Army e o Joe tem uma conversa em que o Joe se abre sobre o segredo dele. Além disso, uma coisa acontece]

ep9 18:49 - 21:43 [Army descobre que a Nim está grávida e os dois conversam sobre, antes dessa cena, o Army só aparece para resolver o problema do Jedi com a namorada, os dois estão com HPV mas não sabem de onde pegaram] 24:10 - 26:01 [Army vai se encontrar com Joe no trabalho dele, mas algo dá errado]

ep10 07:42 - 09:26 [as consequências batem na porta do Joe e ele precisa lidar com elas] 17:07 - 19:27 [Army e Joe acabam brigando pois o médico não entende a forma como o Joe pretende resolver esse novo problema]

ep11 16:03 - 23:38 [Joe conversa com os alunos sobre a sexualidade. Army aparece em campo uniformizado para convidar Joe a ser seu par no baile de noivado do Jedi] 27:46 - 27:53 [Army e Joe tiram fotos com o noivo] 31:46 - 33:03 [Army convida Joe para dançar, mas ele hesita no começo]

ep12 10:53 - 12:17 [Alex retorna ao passado, na noite da festa do Jedi que foi quando tudo começou. No final do episódio passado o problema que gerou a dobra do tempo se resolveu, na festa ele procura Army/Joe para conversarem, mas como ele expõe as coisas em público, o casal volta a colocar o Alex dentro do porta-malas] 19:11 - 19:55 [Alex volta a flagrar o beijo Army/Joe, mas ajuda para que ninguém mas faça isso] 28:35 - 30:25 [Alex chama Army para conversar sobre o relacionamento Army/Joe e dá alguns conselhos] 35:47 - 37:32 [Outra cena de banheiro Army/Joe] 40:38 - 40:48 [Alex e Jean tiram fotos para o anuário de Army/Joe] 44:27 - 46:54 [É a cena final com todos os personagens]

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[gunsatthaphan]

#bestie goals #i guess?

[gunsatthaphan]

🕺🏻🕺🏻.

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[gunsatthaphan]

“finish him” 🥊

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[red-ro5es]

In todays essay I’ll be explaining why Joe is on the asexual spectr-

[theselightsareblinding]

Currently watching

(mostly thai, bls and some kdramas)

October 2022 (updated on oct 9th)

Ai Long Nhai (ep2)

Wasn’t expecting much from this series but there’s something about the characters, only two eps in but it’s pretty cute already. I wonder what the plot is going to about be because they already confessed had sex and are somewhat together. The english subs are terrible.

Ghost Host, Ghost House (ep1)

It gives me some chills but not so bad yet. Cute.

Love in the Air (ep8)

First, Payu and Rain, I didn’t like the beginning that much, the daddy/baby dynamic is not my cup of tea at all, but towards the end they ended up having a much more balanced relationship and their chemistry is indisputable so the last two/three episodes were far more enjoyable for me. As for Prai and Sky, I’m excited because I see a lot of potential in them and I adore Sky already so I want his happy ending. We’re not off to a good start with how creepy Prai is being but I still have faith.

My Only 12% (ep9)

This series is so good… Santa and Earth’s acting is impeccable. Too much angst for me but it’s worth it. Can’t wait to watch the reunion.

The Eclipse (ep9)

Quoting Lady Gaga: amazing spectacular never done before, etc. I wish we got a bit more plot and action about the curse in the middle and not only the typical ‘all goes to shit’ towards the end like I guess it’s going to go but it’s ok, I love everything else about it.

The Three GentleBros (ep1)

Technically not airing yet but it starts tomorrow. Rude of GMM to give me a TayGun series and make them brothers and not a couple, but I know it’s never going to happen so I’ve accepted it. I’ll probably watch anything that has them in it so. Also it’s great that Film is in it now, I liked her with Gun in Not me.

Little Women (ep2)

I know it already ended but in my country Netflix just only started airing it. Not what I was expecting exactly, too much sometimes but we’ll see.

Finished

My Liberation Notes

Vice Versa

Magic of Zero

Plan to watch

Self (oct 13th)

Starts this week, seems like a physiological thriller but bl? On board with it but afraid of the angst and the possible horror. I’m giving it a chance anyway, seems refreshing.

Also Between Us (nov 6th), Midnight Series, Never Let Me Go, GAP, The Warp Effect