#wanted to go on this little rant bc the amount of ppl defending him is insane...

[wintvies]

"well, i think andrew tate has a few good opinions! 🤓". listen. i'm going to hold your hand while i tell you this. that man literally convinced twenty women to get "tate girl" or "property of tate" tattooed onto their bodies permanently. he's been charged with literal human tr4fficking, r*pe and he runs a pyramid scheme. his whole wealth is based off of using women and men with low esteem for his own gain. that man is NOT worth defending bro. he's not "breaking out of the matrix," he's just a bad person. 😭☠️

[borom1r]

uhh for those f/o asks: all of them for both roger & doug!! (& lawrence but only if you want to! I know that's probably a lot hfjdksks)

NOOOOOO I WAS SO CLOSE TO DONE W THIS AND TUMBLR FUCKING. FROZE AND I LOST EVERYTHING KMS. ok here. we go again. (also skdjshfjk no F/O ask is ever too long i love them all So much!)

ROGER—

1) what’s a Hot Take you have about your f/o?

Everything That Happened To Him Was Tony's Fault.

2) on what do you disagree with other fans of your f/o?

sjkdfhks nothing bc there are like. 3 and a half LTTC fans.

3) did you used to ship your f/o with anyone before realizing you wanted to ship them with yourself?

no?? sjhfksd

4) do you feel like you have to defend your f/o all the time?

YES. that is my babygirl that is my PRINCESS i will fight and die by his side.

5) what’s the dumbest thing you’ve heard about your f/o, either on the internet or irl?

idk bcuz everyone besides you n Seb that ive seen who likes this movie is only there to fuck Martin Sheen. this is a blessing and a curse. no stupid takes abt Roger but no content either.

6) what are some tropes that fan art of your f/o tends to follow?

NONE. BC THERE IS NONE. (but Seb said hed make me a Roger dakimakura so do w that info what u will)

7) did your f/o deserve better?

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

8) do you even like the source your f/o comes from or do you only watch it for them & nothing else?

i have a love/hate relationship bc Tony Towers is a piece of shit. but also its a cute movie that makes me laugh

9) do you distance yourself from other fans of your f/o or their source?

What Other Fans?

10) how did you feel when you realized “oh of course i had to like That Character”?

skjdfhsdfj it was just like. Ah. Of Course The Most Pathetic Little Man Is My New Boyfriend. (affectionate)

11) do you think it’s better to have a copious amount of content for your f/o, even with the risk of finding a lot of ship art, or better to have a lot less?

idrc bc i don't generally get upset abt ship art! and i ship my F/Os with other characters too so i don't get jealous or anything. its a double edged sword of "more popularity=more content but also more rancid fucking takes" so.

12) aren’t you tired of being nice? this is an excuse to rant.

I HATE TONY TOWERS TONY TOWERS IS A PIECE OF SHIT AND EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED TO ROGER IS DIRECTLY TONY'S FAULT. fr Roger went from being moderately successful n happy to being EXTREMELY successful. to fucking committing suicide. ALL because of Tony fucking with time!!!! if Tony had just been mature and humble and actually COMMUNICATED that he needed help nothing would've happened Roger would've had a happy life!!!! but instead Tony fucks with the timeline More and More and i dont wanna be like "he's directly responsible for his brother's suicide" bc that's a shitty thing to say except him screwing with the past is literally directly responsible for Roger getting into fights, starting to drink, getting arrested, getting into a toxic relationship, and fucking committing suicide!!!!!!!!! chomping and biting.

DOUG—

1) what’s a Hot Take you have about your f/o?

ummmm none?? i thinkwe're all generally in agreement tht hes just. a sweetheart

2) on what do you disagree with other fans of your f/o?

nothing?? hes just a little guy!

3) did you used to ship your f/o with anyone before realizing you wanted to ship them with yourself?

mm nah,, i think he's close w everyone else but there was no one i rlly shipped him with!

4) do you feel like you have to defend your f/o all the time?

nahh! he's got terminal lil guy syndrome which m very glad for

5) what’s the dumbest thing you’ve heard about your f/o, either on the internet or irl?

nothin??? do ppl say bad things abt Doug? shdfjsfd

6) what are some tropes that fan art of your f/o tends to follow?

everyone draws the "im wearing gloves" scene bsdjkfhds

7) did your f/o deserve better?

uhh nah!! he's just a strange off-putting dude w a group of friends who care a lot abt him! thats his best case scenario i think

8) do you even like the source your f/o comes from or do you only watch it for them & nothing else?

YES. I LOVE COOTIES

9) do you distance yourself from other fans of your f/o or their source?

uhh yea bc of the overlap w/ SAW fans im pretty nervous to interact w/ anyone im not already mutuals with....

10) how did you feel when you realized “oh of course i had to like That Character”?

SBDJFHLJSDF SO EXCITED!! SAME AUTISM.

11) do you think it’s better to have a copious amount of content for your f/o, even with the risk of finding a lot of ship art, or better to have a lot less?

uhhh idrc bc i don't interact w/ it anyways (see SAW fandom overlap)

12) aren’t you tired of being nice? this is an excuse to rant.

I DONT HAVE ANYTHING BAD TO SAY M JUST SO HAPPY LEIGH CONFIRMED DOUG IS CANON AUTISTIC!!!!! SDFLSJFSLKDF HE'S EXACTLY WHAT I WANNA SEE FROM AUTISTIC CHARACTERS EVERY TIME I WATCH COOTIES I JUST:

LAWRENCE—

1) what’s a Hot Take you have about your f/o?

It Is Actually Narratively Fulfilling For Lawrence To Become A Disciple + Makes Complete Sense

2) on what do you disagree with other fans of your f/o?

that he's. a bad father/a bad person in general ig?

3) did you used to ship your f/o with anyone before realizing you wanted to ship them with yourself?

Uh Yeah Obviously (points @ the fuck-off big SAW polycule)

4) do you feel like you have to defend your f/o all the time?

not ALL the time but like... a lil bit.

5) what’s the dumbest thing you’ve heard about your f/o, either on the internet or irl?

if i see bad Lawrence takes i block on sight + clear them from my mind so i dont have any examples sbsjhdfsd

6) what are some tropes that fan art of your f/o tends to follow?

Adam ghost guilt art. y'know

7) did your f/o deserve better?

YES. RIPPING JOHN KRAMER'S THROAT OUT WITH MY TEETH.

8) do you even like the source your f/o comes from or do you only watch it for them & nothing else?

YES VERY MUCH SAW IS.

9) do you distance yourself from other fans of your f/o or their source?

YES i do not. like the SAW fandom. ive jokingly talked abt it but i literally do have an ongoing SAW blocklist tht ive shared w/ one friend that's abt 1/3 petty reasons + 2/3 people who were directly antagonistic/vagued me/sent me death threats on my old blog.

10) how did you feel when you realized “oh of course i had to like That Character”?

s(me every time i look @ lawrence)

11) do you think it’s better to have a copious amount of content for your f/o, even with the risk of finding a lot of ship art, or better to have a lot less?

same as my answer for Doug; idc bc i dont interact w/ it outside of a small trusted circle

12) aren’t you tired of being nice? this is an excuse to rant.

while ill die on the hill that Lawrence becoming a disciple was the best decision for his character given Adam's death + what little we know about John and how he handles survivors that he was directly taking revenge on ("it can't be personal" shut the fuck up John *holding Amanda and Lawrence like Jake Gyllenhaal holds ferrets + shoving them in his face*), i will ALSO die on the hill that he's like. not directly to blame for what happened. like did he do awful things? is he the reason Lynn was chosen + inevitably died? yes. but we see that he's a fundamentally caring person (starting the survivor's group) through it all and like. He Was Brainwashed Into A Murder Cult And Made Physically Dependent On John Via A Prosthesis That Is Literally Just A Torture Device (when combined with his improperly-healed residual limb). while i love ghost!Adam content, like. not to be openly Adam Kinnie On Main but i wldn't HAUNT him. im haunting Mandy and John and DEFINITELY Hoffman (me n Eric are tag-teaming his ass) but Lawrence i am sitting gently on the edge of the bed and making sure his pillow is always cool.

[blackandorange]

i hope you don’t mind but i’m gonna rant a bit here cause i need to get this off my chest!! firstly, i just wanna say the hq!! fandom is probably one of the best fandoms i’ve been in for a few years now and i’m v happy in it, but the length this fandom goes to either paint oikawa to be the devil himself, or a literal angel who’s done no wrong is amazing. like, he is probably one of THE most complex characters in hq!! too, and making him out to be either good or bad just ruins everything about his characters that makes him so great in the first place.

(before i go on, i want to mention, the post that made me mad enough to type this went something like “here’s a list of all the reasons why oiks is perfect and good, but nooo keep calling him mean n petty” and basically just overlooked how shitty he treated kageyama, and ushijima (to a degree since ushi did retaliate in his own kinda way but that’s a whole different story and tbh, i could write a novel-length essay based on oiks relationship w/ both ushi and kags hahah).

On the other hand, the amount of posts just villainising him (mostly either new ppl to the fandom who don’t really know his character, or shiratorizawa fans in my experience tho i won’t say they are the only ones who do it cause i don’t want to generalise or anything) absolutely astounds me, so the aforementioned post just pushed me over the edge.

I won’t post a link to the post bc I don’t want to start anything, bc in the end Oikawa is just a fictional character, but I thought this was worth mentioning bc i do reference little pieces of this post, below.)

Okay, continuing on w/ the rest of Oik’s character analysis.

on one hand, he is extremely hard-working and dedicated to his goals, and he is loyal af to his teammates, but on the other, he’s so petty and spiteful, and prideful and while having pride isn’t necessarily a bad thing, having too much pride is. And what’s more is both of these sides of him can be clearly seen within the manga/anime so to ignore one side is just confusing as hell to me.

An example highlighting the negative side of his personality would be his canon relationship with Ushijima. From what i can gather from both the manga and the anime, there are two main reasons why Oikawa really doesn’t like Ushijima; the first would be simply because he always lost to Ushijima i.e. he’s a sore loser, but let me elaborate on this since it’s a bit more complicated. Since he is so dedicated and hard-working, it definitely hurt him a lot that he never won and that is both fair, and expected but A) Ushijima didn’t win just to spite/be mean to Oikawa, he won bc that is the logical thing to do (why tf would u play a sport where u don’t want to win); and B) in canon, it is never stated (and def correct me if i’m wrong here) that Ushijima did not work just as hard to get as good as he is so saying he doesn’t deserve to win is hypocritical af (also, i don’t think he was said to be a genius like Kags or Noya but i might be wrong on this again so take this with a pinch of salt). And so, bc one of the reasons why he dislikes Ushijima is just simply bc he keeps on losing to him, it kinda makes him a petty asshole.

However, the second reason why he dislikes Ushijima highlights the better side of his personality, mainly how loyal he is towards his team, and that reason is bc of what Ushijima says to Oikawa about his choice of school, and the strength of his teammates (despite the fact that Ushi wasn’t intending to be mean - nonetheless, he did offend/insult Oikawa AND stick his nose where it didn’t belong but this is another thing entirely, so i won’t get into that rn). The best (and only, i think) example of this is Season 2 Ep 25 where Ushijima says to Oikawa that he chose the wrong path, to which Oikawa defended both himself and his team by saying that he did not choose the wrong path and that his volleyball career isn’t over just because he never won and went to nationals. This clearly shows both his resilient nature, knowing that just bc he never went to nationals in high school, doesn’t mean that his vball career is over; and his loyal nature, towards his team as he doesn’t blame them for being the reason why he never went to nationals (despite this being an easy option), and instead feels pride (the good kind) towards his team, and the effort they had made.

Season 2 Ep 25/Chapter 148)

Despite this Oikawa still acts shitty towards people he doesn’t like. A point that was made in the aforementioned post that made me mad, was that, how Oikawa treated Kageyama had little to no effect on him (Kags) later, and that Oikawa felt some sort of remorse towards Kageyama after almost physically attacking him. (And while i must agree that the post did have a few good points highlighting the good sides of his personality, I don’t agree with this point). It is shown multiple times throughout both the anime and the manga, that Kageyama both doesn’t like, and somewhat fears Oikawa and while this is partially due to his skill as a setter, another reason why, is how Oikawa treated him in middle school. If he were intimidated by other setters purely by their skill level and their experiences as a setter, he would not be so intently interested in Kenma back in Season 1 Ep 13/Chapter, or would not be as jealous as he was when he heard Tsukishima had trained with Akaashi (I can’t exactly remember nor find where this was, but I think it was during either the Karasuno VS Seijoh match in Season 2, or the Karasuno VS Shiratorizawa match); but as he not intimidated by them, it shows that there is something else about Oikawa that unnerves him, and that is Oikawa’s personality and how he treated/treats Kageyama. Kageyama even said himself during the Shiratorizawa match in Ep 2 that Oikawa is the only person who scares him. To have such an effect on a person, that Oikawa has on Kageyama shows just how dreadfully Oikawa treated him in middle school and how that effect still lingers despite Kageyama and Oikawa having little contact with each other.

(Season 1 Ep 11/Chapter 27)

(Season 1 Ep 13/Chapter 34)

However, Oikawa slightly redeems himself with another example that draws attention to the better side of his personality, and that can be seen when Kags asked Oikawa for advice during Season 2, Ep 6, and Oikawa actually did give Kageyama some very helpful advice (albeit in a less than polite manner, but still give credit where credit is due). From this, it’s very obvious to see how much he has matured during high school because he would NOT have done that during middle school looking at how he treated kageyama back then. This means that he has grown enough as a person to recognise the immature nature of his actions and change them accordingly.

(Season 2 Ep 6/Chapter 83)

(can we also just stop and appreciate how pretty oiks looks in that last panel?)

So i think that trying to portray Oikawa as someone who is either villainous (bc of how he treats/treated kageyama and ushijima) or angelic/a victim (bc of how the fandom or ushijima(again) treats him) kinda just, diminishes everything that makes him such a great character in the first place, and that just makes me really mad tbh.

Oikawa just deserves so much better than how a significant percentage of the fandom portrays him :/

( sorry if some parts don’t make much sense!! >.< this is the first time i’ve actually written a character analysis thingy like this so my thoughts might be everywhere^^)

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