#wanda maximoff wiki

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[camifornilla]

I hate those god damned marvel movies for being the reason why they took Wanda Maximoff’s mutant status away from her. For MONEY. And they didn’t immediately give it back once Disney bought Fox.

[livinces]

No one wants to talk about how horrendously the MCU has been treating and characterizing Wanda Maximoff since Civil War. And that is largely because the majority of MCU fans are Tony stans and/or have never even read a Wiki page for the 616 or 1610, let alone a comic book.

[racefortheironthrone]

So the F4 cast announcement got me thinking about what comics to read if I get around to that and then about Doom and then I got me thinking... where exactly is Latveria supposed to be? The name makes me think of the Baltic states but I could be wrong.

So yeah, great announcement!

Pedro Pascal is a bit typecast as playing the Dad character (although that's become "one of those good problems"), but I'm thrilled that Cousin Ritchie is going to be playing Ben Grimm.

Obviously, they won't let Ebon Moss-Bachrach swear as much as he does in the Bear, but he's a fantastic actor and I cannot wait to see him bringing that mix of temper and soulfulness to the part.

I haven't seen much of Vanessa Kirby's work, but I'm looking forward to seeing what she can do with a better script than Napoleon.

And Joseph Quinn is excellent and I look forward to seeing some of "Eddie" Munson's energy in Johnny Storm.

In terms of recommendations for FF comics, I've got you there:

Read the Kirby/Lee run. It's a work of art from beginning to end.

Read the Walt Simonson's run.

This is going to be controversial, but you might want to skip the Byrne run.

Read the Jonathan Hickman run. A serious tour de force.

Alongside the Hickman run, Fraction/Allred is quite good too.

As for where Latveria is, it is indeed Balkan:

As you can see from the map, Central/Eastern Europe in Earth 616 is quite different and significantly more Balkanized (forgive the pun) compared to Earth 1218 (also known as our universe).

In addition to Doom's Latveria, we have Symkaria (the dysfunctional micro-kingdom whose economy is largely supported by Silver Sable's mercenary company), Transia (birthplace of Wanda and Pietro Maximoff and home to the High Evolutionary's Island of Doctor Moreau Wundagore Mountain), and a bunch of minor ones like Ruritania (from The Prisoner of Zenda), Carnelia (a post-Soviet state that Tony Stark and Justin Hammer fight over), Belgriun (a totalitarian monarchy that was overthrown by a bunch of Spider-Men villains), Draburg (which showed up in some Sabra comics), and some other small ones that I couldn't find on the wiki.

[mxelliott]

maybe i’m just in a weird mood but i can’t stop thinking about how disabled people are a lot like superheroes. not in the way you’re probably thinking of, though. let me explain.

i fucking love spider-man, and iron man, and i’m an absolute nerd when it comes to shit like odd biology or psychology with characters like them. i’ve seen my fair share of movies and read enough books, wikis, and fics to feel close to the characters, and i can say for certain if we’re looking at a lot of them scientifically, it’s not far off to say that most superheroes can be categorized by either having an impairing mental illness or disability that heavily effects their day to day lives.

i’ll be using several Marvel characters as examples, since i’m most comfortable/knowledgeable about them.

we can start with the most obvious people, such as Colonel Rhodes, Clint Barton, Sargent Barnes, and Stephen Strange, who are paralyzed, hard of hearing, an amputee, and have nerve damage/severe hand tremors respectively. our next biggest candidates are Peter Parker, Tony Stark, Steven Rogers, Natalia Romanoff, and Bruce Banner/Hulk. in the odd category we have Thor, Wanda & Pietro Maximoff, Loki, and Vision.

Rhodes, Barton, Barnes, and Strange don’t need much of an explanation. they each either were caught in an accident, on the job, captured/experimented on, or a mixture of one or more. they got help of varying degrees for themselves to heal and recover to continue living.

Rhodes won’t ever not be paralyzed from the waist down. Barton will never get his hearing back. Barnes can’t regrow his arm. Strange may be able to use magic to help his tremors, but he chose not to. he will never be able to take back the events leading to his accident.

Stark, Bruce, and Rogers need a bit more of an explanation, but not by much of a wide margin. Stark has heart issues thanks to the shrapnel and the Arc Reactors. Bruce will never be able to go back to before the accident that turned him into the Hulk. He can be one or the other, but his brain and body are no longer his own. Rogers went from being in a constant state of sickness and disability to being “cured” and ultimately turned into something inhuman and weird beyond humanity’s own natural abilities.

piggybacking off that, Natalia was trained in brutal conditions to do inhuman stunts. she’s permanently traumatized and most likely won’t ever recover to being “normal” or “average” in the eyes of society.

disregarding the blatant oddness of Thor, Loki, Vision (a literal humanoid AI), and the slightly unexplainable whatever that went down with the Maximoffs (and because they are also semi-self explanatory in their own way, being enhanced) we’re going to move on to Peter Parker.

Peter is a bit of a wild card in this to me, both because he has three movie incarnations across three franchises respectively, but also because unlike the other superheroes, he’s not an old adult just yet. he’s what i see as the real kicker here.

trauma out the ass after losing his parents, his uncle, his aunt (NWH), and being erased from the universe (NWH), he is severely at risk for or has had some version of depression, anxiety, and suicide. top that all off with getting hollywood-hand wavey spider radiation poisoning and changing on a base level (his dna), he’s about as fucked as Rogers, Barnes, and Stark, or more so.

this is already long as shit and you’re probably wondering “i know all this, its not news. what does this have to do with your average disabled person?”. let me tell you.

none of these characters will ever/have ever been your version of socially acceptable or normal in almost any modern age. i’m willing to bet that even with my limited knowledge on psychological and physical disabilities, if any of you fucknut bitchfishs saw these characters outside the movies in real life as normal, every day civilians, you’d probably either act disgusted over their existence or disregard them entirely as if they never existed in the first place.

it probably took months of stress and depression and hard work with no real end in sight for any of these characters to get better at what the world thinks would be an acceptable level. they may have saved the world or they may have only been a small part of something, but that’s the goddamn point here. it doesn’t matter how it happened or if they were born with it, it just is, and apparently that’s much too hard for people to grasp these days.

Rhodey owns a wheelchair. Barnes goes without his arm some days. Rogers (as far as anyone knows) is basically a human-turned alien; abnormal. Strange can’t properly write his signature like he used to. Barton takes off his hearing aids when he pleases and uses ASL. Peter is a teenager with crippling PTSD and some unfulfilled physical needs, living on the lower end of financial security while still developing and trying to maintain his metabolism.

it’s already past midnight while i’m writing this and all i can think of is the fact we parade around disabled and ill people on the big screens as heroes and role models, yet i’ve never seen our world grow to accommodate people like them. instead we cut off or significantly reduce the positive impacts of the barely even mediocre safety nets the government has in place to assist them.

i’m not saying people with disabilities are superheroes, but i am saying superheroes are people with disabilities and often severe illnesses of many varieties.

you don’t value them as people, only idols. you’re the problem clownpiss. fuck yourself.

[scarlet--wiccan]

I’m starting to read Wanda’s comics and I’m a bit confused by Marya and Django’s story. I know that they are her adoptive parents- but what happened to them? They were attacked and Django died but Marya survived?

I know there are a few twists and surprises, but I feel like this shouldn't be that confusing. It's all spelled out very clearly on the Marvel wiki, if you need a quick summary, and, just as a reminder, I do have a reading guide linked in my blog directory that's designed to walk you through when and where Wanda's backstory was established.

In the current version of canon, Marya and Django Maximoff are Wanda and Pietro's maternal aunt and uncle-- Django's sister, Natalya, is their birth mother. Django and Marya raised the twins from birth, as Natalya felt that her life as a witch was too dangerous, however, the family's location was given to the High Evolutionary by a local priest, and the children were abducted and taken to Mount Wundagore. Natalya apparently died while attempting to stage a rescue, but the circumstances of her death are still a mystery, and the twins were eventually returned to Django and Marya's care.

When Wanda and Pietro were young adolescents, the family was attacked by a racist mob and the covered wagon they lived in was set on fire. The children were separated from their guardians and believed them both to be dead. As a result of this trauma, they both experienced selective amnesia. Django and Marya were separated from each other, and Django was struck on the head, apparently causing memory problems which persisted for the rest of his life. Marya was severely burned, resulting in facial disfigurement.

As young adults, Wanda and Pietro are reunited with Django, who had been living in Russia, but comes to New York to find them after seeing the Avengers in a newspaper. They agree to return with him to Transia to learn more about their past and recover their memories. Upon arriving, Wanda is accosted by Modred and taken to Mount Wundagore, where she is possessed by Chthon for the first time. Django helps Pietro and the Avengers rescue her, but passes away shortly after. [Avengers (1963) #181-188]

Django never reveals Natalya's identity, and they never realize that the couple who raised them were their aunt and uncle. Some time later, the twins are approached by Magneto, who believes that he is their biological father, and so Wanda and Pietro spend most of their adult lives believing that they are the children of Max and his late wife, Magda. [Vision & Scarlet Witch (1983)] Years later, after discovering that this is not true, Wanda makes contact with Natalya's spirit for the first time, and returns to Europe to dig up more information on her family's history. Her search leads her to an old friend of Natalya's named Dasha, who reveals to Wanda that Marya actually survived the fire and is now living in a remote part of Serbia. Wanda drives out to meet Marya, and the two share a tearful reunion as Marya finally explains the full truth of Wanda and Pietro's origins. [Scarlet Witch (2016)]

And that is the current state of Wanda and Pietro's parentage-- they were raised by their maternal aunt and uncle, but the family was separated when the twins were still kids. Everybody survived, but Marya and Django each thought the other was dead and the twins, who experienced trauma-induced amnesia, believed they were orphans. Django died years later after reuniting with Wanda and Pietro, and Marya, by all accounts, is still alive.

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Peter Parker's Fridge is Ice Cold

https://archiveofourown.org/works/55529338 by aweekoftodays Otherwise, known as the Victims of Peter Parker Otherwise, known as what happens when I put every Spider-Man movie (and random comic pull) into one concise narrative. The answer is so many people die and Peter suffers Words: 1918, Chapters: 1/?, Language: English Series: Part 1 of The Spider & The Snake Fandoms: Spider-Man - All Media Types, Spider-Man (Tom Holland Movies), Spider-Man (Andrew Garfield Movies), The Amazing Spider-Man (Movies - Webb), The Avengers (Marvel Movies), Daredevil (TV) Rating: Teen And Up Audiences Warnings: Graphic Depictions Of Violence, Major Character Death Categories: F/M, Gen, M/M Characters: Mary Jane Watson, Gayle Watson, Harry Osborn, Norman Osborn, Gwen Stacy (The Amazing Spider-Man), George Stacy, Cindy Moon, Miles Morales, Tony Stark, Steve Rogers, Natasha Romanov (Marvel), Bruce Banner, Vision (Marvel), Wanda Maximoff, Clint Barton, James "Bucky" Barnes, Michelle Jones, Ned Leeds, Otto Octavius, Matt Murdock, Franklin "Foggy" Nelson, Karen Page, Jessica Jones, Peter Parker Relationships: Aunt May Parker & Peter Parker, Uncle Ben Parker & Peter Parker, Peter Parker & Mary Jane Watson, Harry Osborn & Peter Parker, Peter Parker & Gwen Stacy (The Amazing Spider-Man), Cindy Moon & Miles Morales & Peter Parker, Avengers Team Members & Peter Parker, Peter Parker & Tony Stark, Michelle Jones & Ned Leeds & Peter Parker, Peter Parker/Gwen Stacy (The Amazing Spider-Man), all romantic relationships are background - Relationship, Michelle Jones/Peter Parker, Otto Octavius & Peter Parker, Matt Murdock & Peter Parker, Matt Murdock/Franklin "Foggy" Nelson, Luke Cage & Jessica Jones & Matt Murdock & Peter Parker Additional Tags: Homeless Peter Parker, Hurt No Comfort, Kinda, Angst, Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence, Canon is my Playground, wiki is my bestfriend, Post-Movie: Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021), Identity Reveal, Slow Build, Secret Identity, Biological Webbing, Amnesia, Peter Parker is a Mess, Peter Parker is Trying His Best, Matt Murdock Acting as Peter Parker's Parental Figure, Human Disaster Matt Murdock, Protective Mary Jane Watson, Hurt/Comfort, Peter Parker-centric, Genius Peter Parker, Avocados at Law (Marvel), Tony Stark Has Issues, ok listen tell me why, if tony stark exists then why are there still homeless people in new york, not a fan but there won't be any bashing, just holding him responsible, Found Family, Homelessness read it on AO3 at https://archiveofourown.org/works/55529338

[propainfuture]

Marvel Characters Theme Songs: Part 1 - Songs

ALMOST ENTIRELY MCU CHARACTERS

(Again, I get most of my information from fanfictions, wikis, and videos, not straight from the comics)

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Tony Stark: "Bleeding Out" - Imagine Dragons

Steve Rogers: "Mr. Brightside" - The Killers

Peter Parker: "Stronger Than Ever" - Raleigh Ritchie

Thor Odinson: "Home" - X Ambassadors, Bebe Rexha, and Machine Gun Kelly

Clint Barton: "SING" - My Chemical Romance

Natasha Romanoff: "Try" - P!NK

Bruce Banner: "Animal I Have Become" - Three Days Grace

Wanda Maximoff: "Barbies" - P!NK

Carol Danvers: "Starman" - David Bowie

Bucky Barnes: "My Demons" - Starset

James Rhodes: "Ain't Gonna Die Tonight" - Macklemore (Ft. Eric Nally)

Stephen Strange: "Wake Me Up" - Avicii

Pepper Potts: "Me, Myself, and I" - G*Eazy (Ft. Bebe Rexha)

Peter Quill: "Dancing In The Dark" - Bruce Springsteen

Scott Lang: "Let You Down" - Peking Duk

Vision: "To Be Human" - Sia (Ft. Labrinth)

Sam Wilson: "Human" - Rag 'n' Bone Man

Pietro Maximoff: "Pompeii" - Bastille

Wade Wilson: "C'Mon" - Ke$ha

Mantis: "Shooting Star" - Owl City

Nebula: "Gasoline" - Halsey

Gamora: "Rise" - Katy Perry

Drax: "Believer" - Imagine Dragons

Groot: "I Can See Clearly Now" - Jimmy Cliff

Rocket: "Courtesy Call" - Thousand Foot Krutch

T'Challa: "Lion" - Hollywood Undead

Shuri: "Paper Planes" - M.I.A.

Loki Laufeyson: "Monster" - Imagine Dragons

Yelena Belova: "Here We Go" - Chris Classic

Phil Coulson: "Tragic Endings" - Eminem (Ft. Skylar Hill)

Maria Hill: "I Won't Back Down" - Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers

Nick Fury: "The Phoenix" - Fall Out Boy

Gwen Stacy: "100 Bad Days" - AJR

MJ Watson: "Heart Full of Scars" - Rebecca Black

Harry Osborn: "Fences" - Paramore

Miles Morales: "Sunflower" - Post Malone & Swae Lee

Betty Brant: "Wish" - Trippie Redd

Glory Grant: "All of My Favorite Songs" - Weezer

Felicia Hardy: "GRRRLS" - AViVA

Ganke Lee: "Luv(sic)" - Nujabes (Ft. Shing02)

Michelle Jones: "Red Roses" - Lil Skies (Ft. Landon Cube)

Ned Leeds: "Good Day" - Jax Anderson (Ft. Curtis Roach & Mister Wives)

[misteriios]

✧.:°｡ — was that 𝗝𝗘𝗦𝗨𝗦 𝗖𝗔𝗦𝗧𝗥𝗢? oh no no, that was just 𝗣𝗜𝗘𝗧𝗥𝗢 𝗠𝗔𝗫𝗜𝗠𝗢𝗙𝗙, a 𝗖𝗔𝗡𝗢𝗡 𝗖𝗛𝗔𝗥𝗔𝗖𝗧𝗘𝗥 from 𝗠𝗔𝗥𝗩𝗘𝗟. they are 𝗧𝗛𝗜𝗥𝗧𝗬 years old, use 𝗛𝗘/𝗛𝗜𝗠, and 𝗔𝗥𝗘 aware that they are not actually from washington dc. too bad they can’t stray from this city for long.

basic information !

Full Name: pietro maximoff

Nicknames/Alias: quicksilver

D.O.B: 1989

Age: 30

Sexual Orientation: bisexual

Hometown: -

Species: human with speed powers

family connections !

Parents: -

Siblings: wanda (twin sister)

personality traits !

+ protective, loyal, brave, determined

― arrogant, stubborn, impatient, quick-tempered

biography !

tba soon

interview questions !

how long has your character been here?

recently, only a few days,

what is your character’s job?

nothing since he just arrived.

where has your character been pulled from in their fandom?

reading the comics wiki about him currently. but as of the moment i'll pull him from his death in the marvel movie age of ultron. i will most likely take parts of both as soon as i have catch up on reading his comics background story.

has any magic affected your character?

it has indeed. he has come back from the dead, other than that nothing much.

[ao3feed-petermj]

Peter Parker's Fridge is Ice Cold

read it on AO3 at https://ift.tt/ck8IfjY by aweekoftodays Otherwise, known as the Victims of Peter Parker Otherwise, known as what happens when I put every Spider-Man movie (and random comic pull) into one concise narrative. The answer is so many people die and Peter suffers Words: 1918, Chapters: 1/?, Language: English Series: Part 1 of The Spider & The Snake Fandoms: Spider-Man - All Media Types, Spider-Man (Tom Holland Movies), Spider-Man (Andrew Garfield Movies), The Amazing Spider-Man (Movies - Webb), The Avengers (Marvel Movies), Daredevil (TV) Rating: Teen And Up Audiences Warnings: Graphic Depictions Of Violence, Major Character Death Categories: F/M, Gen, M/M Characters: Mary Jane Watson, Gayle Watson, Harry Osborn, Norman Osborn, Gwen Stacy (The Amazing Spider-Man), George Stacy, Cindy Moon, Miles Morales, Tony Stark, Steve Rogers, Natasha Romanov (Marvel), Bruce Banner, Vision (Marvel), Wanda Maximoff, Clint Barton, James "Bucky" Barnes, Michelle Jones, Ned Leeds, Otto Octavius, Matt Murdock, Franklin "Foggy" Nelson, Karen Page, Jessica Jones, Peter Parker Relationships: Aunt May Parker & Peter Parker, Uncle Ben Parker & Peter Parker, Peter Parker & Mary Jane Watson, Harry Osborn & Peter Parker, Peter Parker & Gwen Stacy (The Amazing Spider-Man), Cindy Moon & Miles Morales & Peter Parker, Avengers Team Members & Peter Parker, Peter Parker & Tony Stark, Michelle Jones & Ned Leeds & Peter Parker, Peter Parker/Gwen Stacy (The Amazing Spider-Man), all romantic relationships are background - Relationship, Michelle Jones/Peter Parker, Otto Octavius & Peter Parker, Matt Murdock & Peter Parker, Matt Murdock/Franklin "Foggy" Nelson, Luke Cage & Jessica Jones & Matt Murdock & Peter Parker Additional Tags: Homeless Peter Parker, Hurt No Comfort, Kinda, Angst, Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence, Canon is my Playground, wiki is my bestfriend, Post-Movie: Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021), Identity Reveal, Slow Build, Secret Identity, Biological Webbing, Amnesia, Peter Parker is a Mess, Peter Parker is Trying His Best, Matt Murdock Acting as Peter Parker's Parental Figure, Human Disaster Matt Murdock, Protective Mary Jane Watson, Hurt/Comfort, Peter Parker-centric, Genius Peter Parker, Avocados at Law (Marvel), Tony Stark Has Issues, ok listen tell me why, if tony stark exists then why are there still homeless people in new york, not a fan but there won't be any bashing, just holding him responsible, Found Family, Homelessness read it on AO3 at https://ift.tt/ck8IfjY

[basicallyjustmuggleremuslupin]

no bcs my life is a lie😭 also where did you find that? i looked too now and i found that wanda was 18 or 20 in Infinity War according to scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/141850/how-old-is-wanda-maximoff-in-the-mcu (praying that this link at least somewhat works). according to my reasearch, Infinity War takes place FIVE (!!) YEARS after Age of Ultron tho, which would make them even 14 to 15! on Pietro's page on fandom.com, however, it says that he was born in 1989 and died in 2015, which would make them 26?? link to that page is marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/wiki/quicksilver by the way. i am so confused right now

is the twins 21 or 16 in Age of Ultron 💀 I thought they were in their early twenties but google is saying 16 😭

[scarletwitchpanels]

The Magnus siblings in Civil War: House of M #3

[rivercule]

Wait

Evil!

[scarlet--wiccan]

Are there any characters from other universes/tv shows/movies/books/comics/cartoons/theatre/games etc that you think would be friends with Wanda and or Pietro?

I personally think Cate from Gen V bc they have somewhat similar stories.

I've never seen Gen V (or The Boys) but I just read that character's wiki page and I don't see any overlap with the Maximoffs, like, at all. So, I don't know about all that.

I've always said that Wanda's closest DC equivalent is Raven. Everybody thinks it's Zatanna, but it's not.

[sofiadragon]

Consequences in the MCU are an awful mess.

Before the TV show, 70-90% of Clint's story was either beta canon or offscreen in any given movie. (In the star trek fandom beta canon is anything that wasn't in the shows and movies as aired. I don'tknow if the MCU fandom uses a term for gray-canon like deleted scenes, scripts, wikis, novelizations, and tie-in comics so I'm using the trek term.) Unless you read the wiki and watch/read tie-ins his character arc looks like a few shattered pieces randomly dropped on the floor. Some of the beta canon helps, but some makes it worse. The "Thanos was right" mug??!? Supposedly at that point Thor told everyone about Thanos giving Loki the scepter, and Thanos dusted his whole family. How anyone thought that was alright is beyond me.

In the MCU it's the guy behind the curtain making things happen who usually gets 100% of the blame for anything. Tony Stark as the merchant of death? All on Obadiah Stane. The Maximoff twins join and serve Hydra for an unknown number of years, practicing using their powers on people? All on Strucker to the point that Steve is willing to attack Tony with deadly force on sight without asking what is going on at Wanda's say so. (Mandala effect gets everyone sometimes.) to the point she gets on the team and given an American visa on Steve Roger's and Clint Barton's say so. That's how trustworthy and immediately innocent she is because it wasn't her, it was Hydra. (And no, her situation is actually miles from Bucky Barnes, but the quote fits.)

Except...

Thanos: Gamora and Nebula have to work hard to make up for their bad actions done under his order. Loki is still treated like he did all that willingly despite us seeing him under duress on screen (and far more evidence beta canon.)

Red Room: Natasha and the red in her ledger, which several characters hold against her, is something that stuck to her character. If not referencing it directly, the narrative will otherwise point out that she doesn't have any moral high ground.

Tony Stark: Yes, I just said we're supposed to excuse all Tony's failings because it was actually all Stane or the heavy metal poisoning Stane indirectly caused, but the MCU has to have it both ways with Tony. He is both perfectly innocent and completely guilty. He has crippling PTSD, Thor lifts him by the neck to threaten his life becausehe did such a terrible thing as compile a program without an interface and go to a party instead of watch the bar slowly crawl across the screen, he has to give up his city life and nearly die in space to become a "Good Man" for Endgame, and again the Steve attacking him thing - mostly verbally, but occasionally acting with violent intent toward him or his things. Steve, the man with the perfect moral compass who could take the super soldier serum without becoming a monster, trusts Stark less than a woman he just met today who said she was sorry for murdering and enchanting people and doesn't trust Stark with the truth about his parent's deaths. There is damning with faint praise, and then there is Captain America trusting you so little that when tech you built is being reprogrammed for evil and you can't trust anyone he picks the jogging buddy he met last week over the guy on the kill list.

They really can't decide if they love or hate Stark, eh? Wanda seems to be getting the Stark treatment so far. Both victim and heroine, Wanda is guilty for all the things she's done while simultaneously exonerated of all wrongdoing depending on the scene on screen that moment. It's sloppy and dissatisfying after the first watch when the explosions have lost their sparkle and you start to consider the plot.

So there is a chance that Wanda will blame the book and we are meant to memory hole all the rest, but we could also have this as a guilt that follows her the way it followed Tony or Natasha.

As for a civilian perspective, you have a major point. Most of the MCU is about elite or special people (not all of them rich, but all of them exceptionally skilled and valuable in some way - and only the one black guy has serious money trouble) and the unwashed masses aren't even a conglomerated side character. We get some idea of what a few people think at the beginning of Civil War with people who were caught in the crossfire wanting a chain of command/some kind of accountability. We get it in Spiderman No Way Home, but there it is highly tainted by JJ Jamison airing doctored footage. We get bits of Potts talking about PR type stuff in the early phases, but that is only about SI. Agents of Shield says a few things here and there, but that show is underrated, often ignored, and underwatched. Even Civil War, a movie that starts with a grieving mother and is supposed to be all about public opinion and how the public views them (at least as a cover for why this legislation exists,) drops the entire premise of people wanting their super cops to answer to the UN to focus on the private wants and needs of privileged people. The public perspective is dropped 1/4 of the way in, in favor of Steve protecting his bestie and Stark having an emotional struggle.

And that really tells you about the writers, doesn't it?

🤨🤨

I'm sick of people blaming Wanda instead of accepting that MoM was clearly massive character shift and poorly written. Wanda's not real, she is a fictional character at the whims of the writing. When previous story ended with Wanda giving up her own happiness for the sake of others to indiscriminately murdering anyone to get what she wants that's not consistent or quality writing. Putting redemption aside for the moment what I want is that character derailment rectified.

[starry-eyed-psychopomp]

Now that WandaVision is great and everyone loves it, I’ve never felt more vindicated about that period of time 5 years ago when I completely obsessed over these two characters during my marvel phase