#wanda maximoff deserves better

[originalleftist]

Introducing Natalia Alianovna Romanova, aka Natasha Romanoff, aka Black Widow. Co-President and Founder (with Steve Rogers and Bucky Barnes) of the MCU Characters Who Deserved Better Club.

She is not impressed with Marvel's creative decisions.

[wizardtributedauntlessmaximoff]

[unhingedmarvelandclassicwhobuff]

Well Mr Walnut, your hope will continue to go unanswered.

I would pay SO much money to see his initial reaction to learning how many Wanda fans he was going to piss off with his asinine desire to write her as a one-note slasher villain.

This whole situation would be farcically hilarious if it wasn't so enraging.

[xxplastic-cubexx]

Evo wanda doodle from my cell at the christmas party

[darkcrowprincess]

Agatha all along thoughts:

something else I realized that was really messed up in Agatha all along. Wanda left the people of Westview to deal with Agatha for three years. Yes they liked Agatha were genuinely fine with taking care of her. But again it's a decision being made for them, another choice being taken from them. Also it's a constant reminder of their trauma and what they went through because of Wanda. With Agatha they constantly have to see what it might have been like under Wanda's control from the outside. No wonder they felt sorry for Agatha and no one spoke her name. No wonder they destroyed the house she was living in. I'd hate her too. Wanda might say she's not a villian and says she feels bad but her actions speak lounder to how she really feels.

Again like Fuck you Wanda. You are not a hero and you never were one. All you care about is yourself.

(Don't like don't read. Post hate and I'll block you!)

[xenocorner]

Small sketch page of some of my marvel blorbos ;; Couldn't fit all of them in it nor had the time but hey I got the itch scratched kinda

[unhingedmarvelandclassicwhobuff]

No. The only way anyone could like this movie is if they saw WandaVision and hated it. That is who this was made for; the whiny retards who came away from the show screeching for blood and gnashing their teeth because they got blue-balled by the show into thinking Wanda would be ruined to pander to them, only for this movie to actually do that. Congrats fuckers! You got what you wanted!

The fact that evil Wanda is so well-presented just makes me hate this movie even more, because I never wanted to see that in any capacity whatsoever, so seeing it actually executed well insults me in ways it probably should not.

There are so many more words I could use to describe my feelings on this movie’s treatment of my favorite character, and absolutely none of them are kind. Frankly, this film is my number one most hated thing in the MCU (hell, my most hated movie of all time, period) because of what it does to her.

The one solitary thing I will give it credit for is that it ended up birthing a small reddit community that I am a part of. 

Other than that though,🖕 🤬.

Villain Breakdown: Scarlet Witch

Paradoxically, you will probably like this film more if you've seen WandaVision, because it explains a lot about where Wanda is coming from and gives you a ton of perspective and insight into her grief. But you'll probably like this film less if you've seen WandaVision, because going from WV's careful and sensitive portrayal of grief and trauma into this film's treatment of Wanda is jarring.

The two are like night and day. Their respective handlings of Wanda demonstrates the difference between being the headliner of a story that's interested in exploring you as a character, versus a villainous role where your #1 job is to be malevolent and imposing.

Elizabeth Olsen, it should be noted, does a great performance for what she's given. I have a lot of problems with how Wanda is portrayed in this film but Elizabeth isn't one of them. Whether she's being cruel and vicious or tragic and sympathetic, Elizabeth nails it every time.

The problem, however, is that juxtaposition.

I'd respect this movie's direction for Wanda more if they were willing to make the Darkhold itself more of an active presence in the story. As it is... It doesn't seem to be exerting its influence over anybody. Even Wanda herself is just planning on stealing power from America so she can have her kids back; She has absolutely zero intentions whatsoever of ever fulfilling the Darkhold's ambitions for her.

The movie keeps insisting that the Darkhold made her do it, but it's fundamentally disinterested in actually showing us the corruptive influence of the Darkhold. It lets multiple opportunities to truly establish the Darkhold's wickedness fly right past, for Wanda and Stephen alike, so that it can keep bringing Wicked Wanda Horrorghoul to the screen.

In essence, it's trying to have its cake and eat it. The film doesn't seem to actually care about the Darkhold; It just wants to have fun going hard on Evil Wanda. But it doesn't want to be criticized for that incredibly controversial decision, so it holds up "Darkhold made her do it" as a shield. The film uses the Darkhold as an excuse rather than a serious plot element.

If you don't like Wanda, this is your catharsis. And if you do like Wanda, hey! Don't blame us! There's a couple minutes of film that insist that us making her wicked and monstrous for two straight hours was all the Darkhold's fault! That's almost as good as actually showing you that happening in the movie!

Wanda is very cool. The acting, the directing, the cinematography and effects, it all conspires to create a phenomenal presentation of a Marvel supervillain. But it comes at the cost of derailing and possibly killing off a character who's never truly gotten a fair shake in eight years of filmmaking.

[musclesandhammering]

What irritates the hell out of me is that Loki has been described multiple times canonically as “the most powerful sorcerer in Asgard” and yet his powers are depicted the way that they are.

Asgard. A realm built around magic. And Loki is their most powerful sorcerer. He should be just as strong as Wanda tbh.

[supremequeenrina]

THE REAL STORY OF THE SCARLET WITCH (kind of long but WORTH IT)

As children, Wanda Maximoff and her brother Pietro were experimented on by The High Evolutionary In Wundagore Mountain, unlocking their extraordinary powers. After the village cast the twins out, Magneto took them in and became their father figure. They joined his Brotherhood of Evil Mutants as the Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver, often clashing with the X-Men on Magneto’s behalf. Growing tired of Magneto’s actions, Wanda and Pietro left the brotherhood behind. Captain America offered them a path to redemption: Become heroes and join The Avengers. Wanda fell in love with her teammate Vision, and they gave birth to twins, Billy and Tommy. Mephisto then broke that family apart by reclaiming their children’s souls as a part of his own. After the loss of her family, Agatha Harkness wiped Wanda’s memories to ease her suffering. When the Scarlet Witch uncovered this, she broke down and launched a full scale attack on Avengers Mansion, disassembling the team. Lost and broken, Wanda then altered all of reality, turning the earth into a mutant paradise, where she could be reunited with her children. In this world, the will of Magneto was the law. When Magneto killed Quicksilver, the Scarlet Witch returned the world back to what it was with one condition: “No more mutants.” With just three words, she decimated the mutant population to almost nothing. Doctor Doom manipulated a confused and amnesiac Wanda to steal her powers. Her newly reincarnated sons, Billy and Tommy, alongside their teammates and friends, The Young Avengers. The Scarlet Witch rejoined the Avengers, where she worked with the Phoenix Force to rekindle the mutant population and try to redeem the sins of her past. To atone for her past, the Scarlet Witch created “The Waiting Room” for mutant kind, a place where lost mutant souls could await resurrection on Krakoa. The Scarlet Witch reluctantly teamed up with Doctor Doom to defeat the chaos demon, Chthon. To protect the world from the demon, Wanda absorbed the Darkhold, and trapped Chthon in her soul. With her destiny in her own hands, Wanda moved to Lotkill, New York. There, she started up Emporium, a magic shop that opens its doors to those in need of The Scarlet Witch’s help. Now, as the living Darkhold, the Scarlet Witch must reckon with a very particular inner demon.

[wizardtributedauntlessmaximoff]

[breckstonevailskier]

Or maybe they could go a different route and not rehabilitate her in the eyes of the public in the first place. I think that could make a cool story where some civilians see her and chastise her for what she did and she just nods and accepts it.

Mind you, it's not exactly like Wanda's image was that great even before Westview and DSMOM. I mean, she was already vilified in the press for Lagos even though that wasn't her fault. And even years later, in the post-Blip world, Hayward seems to harbor similar prejudices against her. (Yeah, some of this is Hayward painting Wanda in a negative light so he can frame her for his crimes, but he also seems like the kind of guy who'd do that even if he wasn't trying to frame her, given his general demeanor.)

I almost feel like "How much does the general public of the MCU know about the events of each movie/show?" is one such question that any Wanda redemption story would have to deal with, because it seems like one of several things that would have influence on Wanda's efforts to rehabilitate her image in order to be viewed as a hero again.

Or maybe they could go a different route and not rehabilitate her in the eyes of the public in the first place. I think that could make a cool story where some civilians see her and chastise her for what she did and she just nods and accepts it.

It would be a story of acknowledgement, acceptance and understanding where she still chooses to redeem herself despite the fact that she's very much aware the public will never see her as a hero again. You know, doing it for herself even though she knows nothing she can do will change their minds. I think that can be an interesting story of self-discovery and integrity.

I only feel reluctant to include the public in the story mostly because in a way it feels like the implication is her redemption requires others to forgive her in order for her to get better and I really don't like that.

So what if the public doesn't accept her, so what if other heroes still see her as a villain... she can be better for herself. Other people's opinions be damned.

[unhingedmarvelandclassicwhobuff]

Well, technically two of these are true. Turning Wanda into a villain did her dirty, but a lack of explanation about the Darkhold (that basically reduces it to "a plot device that's there to explain why Wanda has thrown away her character growth and has undergone a mass personality change") and having the corruption happen offscreen doesn't help.

Making Wanda a villain and showing it would definitely have been better from a narrative standpoint, but I still would have hated it because I never wanted her to turn evil

[whydoyoucarewho-iam]

Wanda Deserved Better

So you're telling me that right after WandaVision:

Vision's reanimated body (White Vision) had regained all of his original memories/sense of self

Billy was alive in William Kaplan's body

Tommy was alive... somehow?? idk how yet we'll see

Right.....

[sobeautifullyobsessed]

"Do not speak to me of sacrifice, Stephen Strange."

After all this time, this line still bothers me. A lot. And I find myself wondering if it was simply the writer's outright ignorance of the canon suffering that Stephen repeatedly experienced protecting humanity from Dormammu and during his excruciating search for a way to defeat Thanos--or did Waldr🤢n actually know Stephen's history and decide it wasn't relevant to the script he was writing?

Either way, I'll never get over it. While remaining entirely skeptical of how Stephen will be treated in possible future projects.

[v4lta01]

Rewatched Infinity war and forgot how much it hurts-

[hausofmaxiimoff]

Despite everything Wanda still took her first and last breath in Eastern Europe. The same as her twin and her parents.