#wanda maximoff deserves better

[missmarvelobsession]

Covered in cat hair already but... the first Christmas present of the year I have opened is spot on 😂

[unhingedmarvelandclassicwhobuff]

Well Mr Walnut, your hope will continue to go unanswered.

I would pay SO much money to see his initial reaction to learning how many Wanda fans he was going to piss off with his asinine desire to write her as a one-note slasher villain.

This whole situation would be farcically hilarious if it wasn't so enraging.

[unhingedmarvelandclassicwhobuff]

You gotta fucking love how Endgame shows that the world is a shithole after 5 years of this hell, implying that Tony has just been letting everyone rot while he gets his picturesque lakeside life rather than using the ACTUAL BILLIONS of dollars he has to help. All in spite of the fact that he enabled Thanos to win by bringing the Time Stone to Titan and refusing to warn any of the real heroes still on Earth.

And of course, my Wanda-addicted brain boils this all down to her. All of the torment she went through and unknowingly put many other people through was only able to happen because of the time skip. I guarantee you she would have preferred to remain in oblivion over being yanked back into her miserable existence to a world where the last person she truly loves is long-dead, and she was denied a chance to ever be with him again because of the man who already ruined her life multiple times over.

I still adamantly believe that Tony was the one who handed Vision's corpse over to SWORD, because he probably shared Hayward's mindset that they needed all the weapons they can get, and Vision's humanity was irrelevant. Even if I'm wrong about that, it's still his fault because if the time skip hadn't happened, SWORD would never have gotten their hands on Vision at all.

The one thing about Endgame I can’t get past, the one thing that first WandaVision and moreso The Falcon & the Winter Soldier made brutally, abundantly clear, isn’t even Steve’s super shitty ending, it’s that the Avengers made things infinitely worse by reversing the Blip.

It’d be one thing if they’d made the Blip never take place, or restored everyone one millisecond after they disappeared — things they absolutely could have done, by the way — but they didn’t. They brought them all back five years later. It’s insane. It’s sociopathic.

First of all, a lot of people didn’t disappear that day. They died. People who got hit by suddenly driverless cars, people who went down on pilotless airplanes, people skydiving when the instructor disappeared, people whose doctors crumbled to dust mid-surgery, babies who wasted away in their cribs because their parents got Snapped. None of those people got restored in the Reverse Snap. They just stayed dead.

Second of all, everyone got brought back right where they’d disappeared. Which is fine in theory. Except isn’t it pretty lucky no one was sitting in that chair when Monica got restored? And also that apparently no one had moved that chair in five years? So what if you were on a plane that’s no longer in the air? What if you were on a boat that’s no longer in the middle of the ocean? What if you were skydiving and now there’s no parachute? What if you were on the top floor of a building that’s since been demolished? What if you were in your car in the middle of the freaking freeway? That’s thousands more deaths, conservatively.

But forget about all those dead people for a sec. TFatWS makes it explicit that the world is in complete chaos because of the Reverse Snap. People are displaced, families have been torn apart, people are angry and scared and no one knows what to do. It’s so clear that if the Avengers weren’t going to undo the Snap completely — if they weren’t going to undo it at the moment it happened — then they shouldn’t have undone it at all. That it would have been kinder, better to have let the Snapped stay Snapped. Not just for the sake of the people left, but for the people who disappeared.

Imagine the absolute hell of materializing five years in the future to find someone else living in your house, someone else married to your spouse. To find out your baby died or your mom or your partner. And by the way you have no credit, you have no money, no job history, no possessions, nothing. But good luck trying to rebuild your life and all! Aren't you glad we brought you back? You're welcome!

If the MCU ended with Endgame and no one ever had to think about the ramifications, then fine. Whatever. It’s a happy ending. What a cool final battle!

But it didn’t end there. And as such, it’s not a happy ending. It’s deranged. The Avengers are villains.

And it’s just so weird that no one in-universe seems to acknowledge this. That what the Avengers did was bad. That all this chaos, all this suffering, is entirely their fault.

“Yeah, things suck, but I sure do hope Captain America 1.0 is having fun on the moon! Man, we all miss Iron Man!”

W H A T

I don’t know how to deal with that. I don’t know how we, as an audience, are supposed to reconcile with that. I don’t know how they think they can make that decision seem heroic when every subsequent movie and show just makes it retroactively worse.

[xenocorner]

Small sketch page of some of my marvel blorbos ;; Couldn't fit all of them in it nor had the time but hey I got the itch scratched kinda

[musclesandhammering]

What irritates the hell out of me is that Loki has been described multiple times canonically as “the most powerful sorcerer in Asgard” and yet his powers are depicted the way that they are.

Asgard. A realm built around magic. And Loki is their most powerful sorcerer. He should be just as strong as Wanda tbh.

[sobeautifullyobsessed]

"Do not speak to me of sacrifice, Stephen Strange."

After all this time, this line still bothers me. A lot. And I find myself wondering if it was simply the writer's outright ignorance of the canon suffering that Stephen repeatedly experienced protecting humanity from Dormammu and during his excruciating search for a way to defeat Thanos--or did Waldr🤢n actually know Stephen's history and decide it wasn't relevant to the script he was writing?

Either way, I'll never get over it. While remaining entirely skeptical of how Stephen will be treated in possible future projects.

[unhingedmarvelandclassicwhobuff]

Well, technically two of these are true. Turning Wanda into a villain did her dirty, but a lack of explanation about the Darkhold (that basically reduces it to "a plot device that's there to explain why Wanda has thrown away her character growth and has undergone a mass personality change") and having the corruption happen offscreen doesn't help.

Making Wanda a villain and showing it would definitely have been better from a narrative standpoint, but I still would have hated it because I never wanted her to turn evil

[whydoyoucarewho-iam]

Wanda Deserved Better

So you're telling me that right after WandaVision:

Vision's reanimated body (White Vision) had regained all of his original memories/sense of self

Billy was alive in William Kaplan's body

Tommy was alive... somehow?? idk how yet we'll see

Right.....

[v4lta01]

Rewatched Infinity war and forgot how much it hurts-

[hausofmaxiimoff]

Despite everything Wanda still took her first and last breath in Eastern Europe. The same as her twin and her parents.

[unhingedmarvelandclassicwhobuff]

No. The only way anyone could like this movie is if they saw WandaVision and hated it. That is who this was made for; the whiny retards who came away from the show screeching for blood and gnashing their teeth because they got blue-balled by the show into thinking Wanda would be ruined to pander to them, only for this movie to actually do that. Congrats fuckers! You got what you wanted!

The fact that evil Wanda is so well-presented just makes me hate this movie even more, because I never wanted to see that in any capacity whatsoever, so seeing it actually executed well insults me in ways it probably should not.

There are so many more words I could use to describe my feelings on this movie’s treatment of my favorite character, and absolutely none of them are kind. Frankly, this film is my number one most hated thing in the MCU (hell, my most hated movie of all time, period) because of what it does to her.

The one solitary thing I will give it credit for is that it ended up birthing a small reddit community that I am a part of. 

Other than that though,🖕 🤬.

Villain Breakdown: Scarlet Witch

Paradoxically, you will probably like this film more if you've seen WandaVision, because it explains a lot about where Wanda is coming from and gives you a ton of perspective and insight into her grief. But you'll probably like this film less if you've seen WandaVision, because going from WV's careful and sensitive portrayal of grief and trauma into this film's treatment of Wanda is jarring.

The two are like night and day. Their respective handlings of Wanda demonstrates the difference between being the headliner of a story that's interested in exploring you as a character, versus a villainous role where your #1 job is to be malevolent and imposing.

Elizabeth Olsen, it should be noted, does a great performance for what she's given. I have a lot of problems with how Wanda is portrayed in this film but Elizabeth isn't one of them. Whether she's being cruel and vicious or tragic and sympathetic, Elizabeth nails it every time.

The problem, however, is that juxtaposition.

I'd respect this movie's direction for Wanda more if they were willing to make the Darkhold itself more of an active presence in the story. As it is... It doesn't seem to be exerting its influence over anybody. Even Wanda herself is just planning on stealing power from America so she can have her kids back; She has absolutely zero intentions whatsoever of ever fulfilling the Darkhold's ambitions for her.

The movie keeps insisting that the Darkhold made her do it, but it's fundamentally disinterested in actually showing us the corruptive influence of the Darkhold. It lets multiple opportunities to truly establish the Darkhold's wickedness fly right past, for Wanda and Stephen alike, so that it can keep bringing Wicked Wanda Horrorghoul to the screen.

In essence, it's trying to have its cake and eat it. The film doesn't seem to actually care about the Darkhold; It just wants to have fun going hard on Evil Wanda. But it doesn't want to be criticized for that incredibly controversial decision, so it holds up "Darkhold made her do it" as a shield. The film uses the Darkhold as an excuse rather than a serious plot element.

If you don't like Wanda, this is your catharsis. And if you do like Wanda, hey! Don't blame us! There's a couple minutes of film that insist that us making her wicked and monstrous for two straight hours was all the Darkhold's fault! That's almost as good as actually showing you that happening in the movie!

Wanda is very cool. The acting, the directing, the cinematography and effects, it all conspires to create a phenomenal presentation of a Marvel supervillain. But it comes at the cost of derailing and possibly killing off a character who's never truly gotten a fair shake in eight years of filmmaking.

[just-an-enby-lemon]

Wandavision is unintencionally a terrifying story about how cishet middle class white woman can get away with almost anything with just a slap in the wrist and still feel like a victim.

[broadwayfan92]

Characters who deserved better in IW and Endgame:

I know we got Wandavision out of it, but they deserved better

[lihoromanoff]

Nothing hurts except for an angsty fic where no one cheats nor fall out of love but one of the characters die from an accident or a sickness. To make it hurt even more, it’s a Natasha or Wanda x reader fic.

[breckstonevailskier]

Or maybe they could go a different route and not rehabilitate her in the eyes of the public in the first place. I think that could make a cool story where some civilians see her and chastise her for what she did and she just nods and accepts it.

Mind you, it's not exactly like Wanda's image was that great even before Westview and DSMOM. I mean, she was already vilified in the press for Lagos even though that wasn't her fault. And even years later, in the post-Blip world, Hayward seems to harbor similar prejudices against her. (Yeah, some of this is Hayward painting Wanda in a negative light so he can frame her for his crimes, but he also seems like the kind of guy who'd do that even if he wasn't trying to frame her, given his general demeanor.)

I almost feel like "How much does the general public of the MCU know about the events of each movie/show?" is one such question that any Wanda redemption story would have to deal with, because it seems like one of several things that would have influence on Wanda's efforts to rehabilitate her image in order to be viewed as a hero again.

Or maybe they could go a different route and not rehabilitate her in the eyes of the public in the first place. I think that could make a cool story where some civilians see her and chastise her for what she did and she just nods and accepts it.

It would be a story of acknowledgement, acceptance and understanding where she still chooses to redeem herself despite the fact that she's very much aware the public will never see her as a hero again. You know, doing it for herself even though she knows nothing she can do will change their minds. I think that can be an interesting story of self-discovery and integrity.

I only feel reluctant to include the public in the story mostly because in a way it feels like the implication is her redemption requires others to forgive her in order for her to get better and I really don't like that.

So what if the public doesn't accept her, so what if other heroes still see her as a villain... she can be better for herself. Other people's opinions be damned.

[natashowlet]

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