#wan dawan

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[thefriendoforatioisdead]

There is one thing that I love the most about Wan's character, and I love the way they tied everything together

I'm going to try to explain this but that might be confusing so bear with me.

(Warning : This is a very long rant)

So what I'm talking about is the way her character evolved between present time and the flashbacks, because I think there's something great about the consistency of it, which I'm going to explain chronologicaly (sort of)

So from the beginning we know that Wan doesn't really have a temper. She's friendly, as she immediately tries to befriend Kim and doesn't mind that she is being rejected : it doesn't stop her from being nice. The only times she is different from that smily happy girl is to display righteous anger, when the teacher is being mean to Kim, and when she's worried for her and runs to find her in the lockeroom.

These earlier flashbacks (which I assume take place when they were around 15/16 in tenth to eleventh grade) show us that Wan was friendly, extroverted (which is also why she was so popular in high school I think), determined and courageous, and also very protective of Kim already, even without them being really friends yet. She was headstrong, self-confident but only in a positive way.

THEN their dads left. And we enter a second phase of her character : Based on their conversation in the bathroom from ep 9, I assume Kim was a very sensitive kid, withdrawn, lonely, and it probably got worse after her dad left. Wan, on the other hand, seems to have reacted with more anger, as we can see when she attacks Mali for spreading the rumors. We see that she's a bit authoritative, leaving no choice to her friends but to accept Kim in the group, and her ego seems to have grown a bit as we see her bragging about being a good actress at their sleepover (which I assume takes place at the very end of high school, 12th grade, when they're around 17/18 although I don't know much about the thai school system so I might be wrong), but also saying that she's too pretty for any guy to date her. But we can see that her anger is still one that makes sense, and her protectiveness towards Kim is hightened, probably because she's starting to fall in love with her.

So what I assumed from the end of her teenagehood, after her dad left, is that Wan reacted with anger,became less patient, started having less kindness for the world, however, she got closer to Kim, and more protective of Kim, who, on the other hand, reacted by keeping even more to herself, and the friendship she built with Wan, Mon and Mali is what helped her becoming more self-assured, and more open. (My personal headcanon is that once they became really friends, Wan decided to keep her sadness inside so she could be strong for Kim. WHICH IS WHY SHE LATER ON EXPRESSES ANGER INSTEAD OF SADNESS WHEN SHE FEELS THAT WAY, but i'm getting ahead of myself)

Lastly, there is a big big big time lapse of ten years that we never see, where they went to college, Wan built her carriere as an actress and Kim became her stylist, they became roommates and stayed roommates until they were (I assume) 28, and the events of the series began. During this time, Wan got depression, we are told from the pressure of her job and what is happening to her mother. When we meet Wan, she's very different from what we see later in the flashbacks, but after putting this chronologically, I think we can see that the way she acts is an excessive version of all the traits we've established before : She's jealous and possessive of Kim, an excess of her protectiveness that we have seen previously. She's prone to anger, outbursts, she snaps at anyone, which we saw was a trait that already existed in a positive form at first, then started to become a bit negative after her dad left. She has, outwardly, even if it's not real, a big ego and a diva attitude which leads her to act like everything is due to her and into petty fights with Jessie and Pam (even if the fact her rivalry with the later exists since apparently forever can let us assume that she always had a tendency to compare herself to others). She's the worst version of things that used to be her best qualities, and that made Kim fall in love with her.

And I love this consistency, I love the way we see how she evolves as a character and I used to be so annoyed with her and the way she acted, but after eleven episodes, I realized that it actually is very tied together. They don't communicate because they never learned how to do it, because they just did it in their dreams, Wan snaps because she always thought they could just keep being in love without ever saying it and living their life, until Jessie makes her realize that she might lose Kim at any point, Kim is forced to face the fact that the Wan she fell in love is not the one she's living with right now, and that she deserves better than that, and Wan is also forced to face the fact that she isn't who she used to be, and that if she doesn't do anything about it and makes up to Kim, she's going to be miserable forever and lose the love of her life ! AND THEIR PERSONALITIES IN PRESENT TIME MAKE ABSOLUTE SENSE REGARDING WHAT WE SEE IN THE FLASHBACKS ! AND THIS SHOW IS AMAZING AND I ALWAYS KNEW IT IN MY HEART ! TRUST THE PROCESS !

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The use of Dream Land and its link to Wan’s mental health and relationship with Kim.

I will start again by saying, I’m not a psychologist and I may use wrong words or imagine things that are not scientifically proved. It’s just my own thoughts and what I deduced from the series. I’m only trying to find an explanation, but it will never be real diagnosis.

At first, when I watched the series I thought they created the Dream Land to express the hidden desires of Wan for a relationship with Kim. In her own Dream Land she can be herself without having to hide her love and affection for Kim. They can share intimate moments in a paradise where no one can enter and trouble them. Wan who still hasn’t accepted her attraction to women and specifically Kim, no longer has any worries in Dream Land. She kisses Kim several time without questioning her own sexuality because there is no reason here to do it. When she was having a problem or an argument with Kim, she just had to enter Dream Land again to find a way to apologize or to understand Kim’s reaction without having to do it in real life, where the answer may be too painful to accept or understand. Dream Land was an escape from reality.

However, now that I watched the 7th episode, it seems Dream Land may be linked to Wan's mental health. We learned that Wan could be considered depressed. She is also someone who feels like she doesn't know how to love herself since she is giving all her love to everyone. I feel the series didn't show enough this part of her personality. It is probably because we started the series with Kim and Wan being at odds because Kim decided to work with Jessie to protect Wan. I feel they should have given at least one episode at the beginning to show how Wan is busy being this famous actress who wants to succeed. They could have shown her also giving all her efforts to her fans. I wish we also saw before the flashback how devoted she was to Kim or her friends (which I didn't see it) and also her family. The flashbacks didn't give enough credits to this part of her personality. We have to trust the character about her actions because we mostly, as viewers, saw her anxious, angry or sad.

So I read, that usually depressed people don't dream well. They experience more frequent nightmares and can have a more passive role in their dreams. I don't think it works well with Wan's dream because she is the main character of her dreams and she is the only one who can affect them. Furthermore, her actions on Dream Land have a repercussion in real life. She admitted before that she only had to apologize in her dreams when she had a quarrel with Kim and the next day everything would be back as normal. So Wan is having such a power in her dreams and it goes against what is reported about people who feels depressed and the state of their dreams. In some way, I believe Wan has some kind of Maladaptive daydreaming without the daydreaming part. To be honest it is quite hard to know because, at the beginning we saw her going to bed and dream, but recently she also happened to go to Dream Land while being awake. In the latest episode, she was driving and then suddenly the series cut to Dream Land. So maybe it is also partly daydreaming.

I found a definition of Maladaptive Daydreaming in Havard Health Publishing which describe it this way: Maladaptive daydreaming occurs when a person engages in prolonged bouts of daydreaming, often for hours at a time, to cope with a problem. […] The daydreams are often vivid and complex plots that elicit a great deal of emotion. I believe it sounds closer to what Wan is experiencing. Maladaptive Daydreaming is also believed to be a coping mechanism for other mental health disorders such as depression. It can be seen also as a strong compulsion. Wan frequently used it to get to know what Kim could think, to improve their relationship or to do with her things she couldn't do in real life. In all seven episodes, Wan ends up in Dream Land at one point so it is something she relies a lot on. We have no idea if Kim really feels something from this Dream Land, she could just be a subconscious version of Kim that Wan imagined. Her ideal version of Kim or her fantasies about Kim. The only thing that may shows us Kim being really linked to it, is when Wan admitted in episode 2, it really has impacted their relationship.

I've re watched all the Dream Land parts in the seven episodes and noticed how the dreams where used. At the beginning, for episode 1 and 2, we always got one dream where the girls were happy together and one nightmare where they were always separated and Wan finds herself alone. Then, it shifted during the third episode because the first was a dream where Wan was kissing Kim and the second dream was a nightmare where Kim appeared and comforted Wan. In the episode 4, Kim and Wan were separated again. Wan was trying to reach Kim, but she couldn't do it and she was dragged away by faceless people. The sky was made of fireworks saying sorry but even if Kim watched it she didn't get the feeling. In episode 5, Wan found Kim, but she was not paying her attention because she was painting Mawin. It made Wan angry and she threw Kim's painting, but as a retaliation Kim pushed her and she disappeared again, leaving Wan alone in Dream Land. Episode 6, is made only of one dream where Wan and Kim exchanged kisses and they were naked on a bed which implies it's an erotic dream. Finally, in episode 7, we got another dream where Kim was again consoling Wan and urging her to seek help.

Most of the time Wan and Kim wear white clothes in Dream Land. When they are wearing it, there is usually an atmosphere of peace and love between them, except during episode 5. When the dream finished with them being separated, Wan is wearing dark-colored clothes (usually nuance of black) and Kim is still wearing light-colored clothes (white or cream). Only in episode 6, they are naked, but under a blue sheet and they are both wearing blue earrings. It gives an atmosphere of serenity, peace and commitment.

I feel only two of Wan's dreams where related to her possible depression. The first one was in episode 2 and the last one was in episode 7. The rest of the dream parts were mostly centered around her rocky relationship with Kim and were also linked to her difficulties of admitting in real life about her romantic feelings for Kim. Is she saying she doesn't know how to love herself because she feels depressed or is she saying this because she can't accept her own sexuality because being not heterosexual has brought to much pain in her life? Let's remind ourselves two moments that may have forced Wan to reject her attraction to women: firstly, her dad abandoned her mother and her because he was gay and he decided to elope with his lover. Secondly, her mother considered her kiss to Ae as “doing something bad” or “terrible” such strong words to describe a kiss between two women. Finally, the mother kept being angry at her ex-husband's actions that she ended up being an alcoholic hurting her health. Wan seeing this can't have a healthy view of homosexuality and it may affect her mental health trying to navigate her attraction to Kim.

[overthinkthis]

Everyone else: yeah, actually, we're so frustrated, what is this?

Me: omg, I love this show

[unrealcosima]

Wan Dawan: human disaster

[wastingoxygensince1983]

Oh God!

Genlong is worse than Wan(affair) and Dawan(dream) combined.

I never thought I could find someone worse than those two.

I freaking love her.

[bengiyo]

My Marvelous Dream is You Ep 1 Stray Thoughts

I have seen the trailer for this show and I still have no idea what to expect other than some lesbian action.

Starting kind of fantastical and frolicking. Okay!

Ah, of course we were dreaming. At least Silvy is here.

I’m excited about characters to having some established relationships for us to walk into.

I don’t blame Kim for wanting to leave Wan if she’s always this overbearing and volatile.

The girls are fighting in the bathroom! This is tacky!

A whole wine bottle in the car? Girl!

Looknam’s character in the last GL was expecting. Now she’s pumping milk. I’m excited for her to have a toddler running around in the next one.

I was not expecting us to be at the beginning of a breakup in this show. I’m intrigued and probably going to stick with this for a while just to see how they handle it.

Oh lord this mess has been going on for a while. Wan and Kim’s dads may have been seeing each other on the side and became neighbors?

Oh shit both dads ran off together.

Dawan’s imaginary world is so dramatic.

I see. Kim is being blackmailed and is trying to protect Wan.

Oh Thai dramas, how is it suddenly night time?

Truly was not expecting noble idiocy in episode 1.

I don’t know what drugs this auntie doctor has, but mom looks good?

Seems like Kim’s mom doesn’t know about their relationship.

Next week promises more fighting and mess. My goodness.

Girls, this is capital M Messy! We had so much drama in the first episode and we barely got to meet anyone. We got rich actresses beefing on live television and trying to suffocate each other in the bathroom. We’ve got homophobic blackmail and noble idiocy. We have a recent mother trying to help these lesbians even with her tiddies leaking the whole time. We have a neighborly connection through their gay dads who ran off together. There’s a drug dealing doctor on the horizon. It’s so much!

[withgaby]

Le petit monde de Chao Planoy

Quand je commence le visionnage de la série Blank, quelque chose m’amuse beaucoup.

Le personnage principal de cette série s’appelle Nueng, appartient à une famille noble et sa sœur s’appelle Sam. C’est marrant parce que dans Gap, il y a Sam, femme d’une famille noble qui a une sœur qui s’appelle Nueng. Ce qui est encore plus drôle, c’est que Nueng signifie « un » et Sam, « trois » et dans les deux séries, elles ont une troisième sœur qui se prénomme Song, c’est-à-dire « deux ».

A ce moment-là, je me dis simplement que cela doit être commun dans les familles nobles thaïlandaises d’appeler leur enfant Nueng, Song et Sam.

Mais lorsque, dans Blank, Nueng rend visite à sa sœur, on apprend qu’elle vit avec une femme se prénommant Mon. Ça commence à faire beaucoup de coïncidences.

Dans les deux séries, Gap et Blank, il y a une grand-mère abusive, Sam aime les femmes et la sienne s'appelle Mon, Nueng est peintre, une artiste sans-le-sou... C’est là que je me demande si les deux dramas ne se dérouleraient pas dans le même univers ?

Après quelques recherches sur internet, je découvre que oui, Blank et Gap sont deux séries se passant dans le même univers. Les deux séries sont adaptées de romans de Chao Planoy, une autrice thaïlandaise à l’origine de plusieurs romans GL qui ont été adaptés en série ou le seront dans un futur plus ou moins proche. Toutes ses histoires sont interconnectées par leurs personnages. Ce que nous allons appeler le Chao Planoy Univers.

Je vais essayer de vous décrire les différentes connexions que nous pouvons voir entre les séries du Chao Planoy Univers. Je dois préciser que j’écris ce billet le 11 novembre 2024 et ne me base que sur les séries que j’ai vues et les informations que j’ai pu collecter sur MyDramaList.

Il y a tout d’abord Gap où Nueng, personnage principal de Blank, est la sœur ainée de Sam.

On retrouve d’ailleurs Sam, mais aussi sa petite amie Mon dans la série Blank.

Wan, le docteur Wanwiwa, est l’une des seules amies de Nueng et le personnage principal de Affair. Nueng va d’ailleurs faire une courte apparition dans Affair.

Pleng, second personnage principal de Affair, est une chanteuse qui tournera un clip dans la série Dream (My Marvellous Dream Is You) avec Wan (Dawan), personnage principal de la série précédemment cité.

Karn, personnage principal de Apple (Apple My Love), sera d’ailleurs la co-star du clip.

La série Us, qui devrait sortir d’ici peu, nous contera l’histoire de Dokrak et Pam, qui sont allées au lycée avec Dawan et qu’on a donc vu dans Dream.

En ce moment, est diffusée Pluto dans laquelle nous n’avons pas encore rencontré de personnages du Chao Planoy Univers et sont annoncées deux nouvelles adaptations de ses romans, Mate et Ryhthm.

Tous ces personnages reliés les uns aux autres me rappelle la toile d’Alice Pieszecki dans la série The L Word. Le projet du personnage, autrement appelé The Chart, est un élément central des premières saisons qui représentent toutes les relations amoureuses et sexuelles entre femmes lesbiennes et bisexuelles de Los Angeles. Cette conception des relations humaines nous rappelle à quel point le monde est petit.

Cette interconnexion des histoires de Chao Planoy n’est finalement pas si étonnante, puisqu’elles se déroulent toutes dans notre monde moderne, les protagonistes orbitent toutes autour de Bangkok et, encore une fois, le monde est petit.

Les séries n’étant pas adaptées par les mêmes équipes, on peut constater que Nueng a été interprétée par trois actrices différentes depuis 2022.

Mind Sawaros Nekkham dans Gap

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Faye Peraya Malisorn dans Blank

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Anna Sueangam-iam dans Affair.

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Chao Planoy est donc une autrice en vogue dans les adaptations sérielles en Thaïlande, on peut même parler d’un starter pack pour un bon drama GL Thaï, mais on verra cela dans un prochain billet.

[top-pleng]

as dumb and in denial as WanPleng were at times—okay, mainly Pleng... only Pleng—she wasn't so dumb that she genuinely didn't know how Wan felt about her. she did know, she was just scared of what that meant 😭

I think Dawan is genuinely dumb tho and has no idea that Kim loves her and like girl... you are breaking Kim's heart again and again... pay attention! use your brain!!! I hate them fr (I kid I love them)

[kungpowkingshockey]

After an amazing meal at @dawan_yakiniku with @weeweean18 jumping up and down seemed the reasonable thing to do. . . . . . #yakiniku #taipei #dawanyakiniku #dawan #taiwan #coachlife #delicious #yummy #jump #afterdinner #colours #colors #rainbow (at Da-Wan Yakiniku Dining Restaurant 大腕燒肉專門店) https://www.instagram.com/p/CmWou_EyEsn/?igshid=NGJjMDIxMWI=

[fortunatelydopethings]

An upcoming US rapper, Big Wan has been shot dead.

An upcoming US rapper, Big Wan has been shot dead.

An upcoming US rapper, Big Wan has been shot dead. Big Wan, from Milwaukee (real name Dawan Turner) was shot and killed Friday morning (November 26), according to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. Milwaukee police said shots were fired into a home on the 3800 block of North 13th Street where the 19-year-old was staying with his mother and grandmother. Reports say Big Wan was in an upstairs…

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[unrealcosima]

I noticed this too, although I only saw one sticker and I thought it was Wan's 😅

It's quite common in Thai shows to show the unpopular character with no stickers on Valentines day (which is quite cruel and would have given me even more self esteem issues, but Kim doesn't seem to care).

I found it really cute because Dawan is this super popular girl and Kim someone who no one sees, but Dawan only has eyes for her, and she's the only one that can make her nervous 😊

Maybe someone said it already but rewatching ep6 I realized that on Valentine's day, everybody has a lot of stickers, except Kim, who only has three : two on her collar and a big one on her tie. Which means that it was probably Mali, Mon and Wan who gave them to her, because they knew she isn't very liked by other students (even if I'm not sure why?) and that she wouldn't get stickers from others....And I find this adorable !

And maybe it's normal to give stickers to your friend on Valentine's day (we don't do that in my country so Idk) but I just imagined what it probably meant for her who seems like she was a very lonely kid before she met them, and probably was even before she changed schools. Like...They included her, they made sure she was part of the day, of the celebration...Kim never does anything for herself, but her friends try to do it for her instead and remind her that she matters (even if they're not always the best at it). And that made me emotional ! I love cute friendships ! I love this group and I love this show !

(Also...Little headcanon that the biggest heart that she has on her tie was given by Wan because...Of course she would want to give her the biggest sticker !)

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[wastingoxygensince1983]

Umm...

Turns out that Khun Sam is the less toxic of Planoy's girl boss.

While watching GAP, not knowing yet Dawan, Wan and Gen I would never expect it.