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cararata · 4 months ago
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I'm trying to finish watching bnha bc i never did and i'm also starting to really like the chatacters again but that fuckass ending is ruining my experience and also bakugou is still there
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all-encompassing-hero · 2 months ago
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Ok, so hear me out. Vigilante Ururaka and Midoriya.
So, at some point after the My Villian Acadamia arc (or honestly any point in the story prior to the second war and the big final battle), Ururaka and Midoriya sit down and have a discussion about the League of Villians. Specifically about how the League primarily came about because of both the corruption of hero society, as well as the general views of regular people. Ururaka wants to help save Toga because of what she's learned about how people treated her, and Midoriya wants to help Shigaraki because One for All has shown him how All for One manipulated Tenko.
So Uravity and Deku become vigilantes, standing against the corruption of hero society, specifically the HPSC. I would include both Hawks having a change of heart after killing Twice (or trying to, if you want to keep him alive), as well as Lady Nagant choosing to stand against All for One, both of them giving Deku and Uravity insider knowledge about what the HPSC has done.
Of course, this would cause the HPSC to see Deku and Uravity as a threat, and they would start sending other heroes after them. This means that the duo is dealing with attacks from both sides, at least until they can start to get through to the League.
I also think that at some point, Bakugo, along with the rest of Class 1-A, who aren't aware of what the HPSC is doing, get recruited to hunt down the two rouge heroes. This leads to a series of fights where Midoriya and Ururaka try and convince the rest of 1-A of what's really going on, eventually convincing most if not all of the class.
Eventually they are able to get through to the League so they can offer them the help they need, but as long as the HPSC and All for One exist, the Leauge will never be safe. Thus begins a mission to both stop All for One as well as bring down the HPSC.
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bibibbon · 7 months ago
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I'm so done with MHA now which is so sad because at one point in time I loved it.
Just all this time, (and MONEY!) I and all of us spent on this shit of a series , and the conclusion is that all the 99% of the main villians die, (and fail to be saved by thier hero counterparts eventhough that was poorly set up - but I digress).
Izuku remains abused by Bakugou (with Bakugou growing over Izuku's character and role as MC.)
Todoroki Enji remains free and relatively well off despite being outed as an abuser (with his narrative growing over Shoto's story especially but also Rei's, Dabi's and every other Todofam members too.)
Talking of Izuku, ironically, the poor kid has become more of a literal 'Deku' controlled by the narrative the more the series has gone on. To the point where I couldn't feel connected to him anymore, despite him being my favourite at one point, because all these major things have happened, such as losing OFA he's like 😐 / softly smiling at Bkg while Bkg, his abuser, is the one who bawls about it.
I'm so dissatisfied, so angry that even my love for fic of this has faded because it's so rare to find one that offers true concequence to Bakugou, Endeavor and Aizawa - that also treats Izuku well.
Sorry for the vent, I was furious, but now I am just sad and needed someone like minded to anonymously talk this out with.
That's a totally valid feeling to have towards MHA. To be honest I have kind of gotten used to watching/interacting with shows that have a lot of wasted potential so MHA doesn't bother me as much (even if I go on long rants about it's wasted potential tbh I find it more fun to just ramble at this point)
I have never actually spent money on a lot of the media I consume so I can't actually relate but dam I do feel bad and can empathize with you over that.
Overall I do every much agree with your rant and the way the narrative simply sucks everything interesting out of izuku is so disappointing. Ironically izuku has been turned literally into a physical "deku" whether that be 1) by the narrative or 2) in his fight with shigaraki where he literally couldn't move without the help of blackwhip.
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thekingofwinterblog · 6 months ago
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I think your point of Deku feeling like a lesser All Might is the result of the story not wanting to commit to any too radical change, only saying "people will try harder and do better" - hence Deku at best is an imitation of All Might, the symbol which for all the critisicm, basically got rehabiliitated.
Thats why, besides all the build up and weirdo fans that whiteknight the LOV too much, there was need for "redemption" - because this would make Deku look different, as someone who brought something truely new, something that could surpass even All Might - saving not only the civilians, the status qou - but also the villians, fixing society and not just letting it go on forever.
Back when the series was still running i was honestly thinking we were building towards the idea that the entire series was gonna be the origin story of the MHA universe's justice league.
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That seemed the logical solution to a lot of the current system's flaws.
The pro hero system was an imperfect solution to a real, complicated problem(namely how to have a running society in a world where everyone has superpowers), and the series was ultimately about exploring those problems, and by extension the obvious flaw of having a superman figure to rely upon to effectively patch up it's shortcomings.
But the fact is, putting every, single problem upon the back of one man, no matter how strong and powerfull didnt work, and in large part was the reason why everyone was so complacant.
For all the infighting and competion for the rankings, the reality was that the entire system was built upon the expecation that all might would always be there, and when he wasnt, the much more flawed upper rankers failed to uphold the system, and in endeavor's case, did more to hurt the public's faith in the system than anyone else.
The obvious solution, and the one i expected the series to head towards, was to effectively do away with the competition element that the rankings represented, and solve the problem through how the Superheroes of the DCAU effectively solved superpowered crime once and for all.
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centralize the entire japanese hero system into one, overarching organization that was for all intents and purposes a centralized superhero team with the entire group working together for the good of the nation, where people would be sent where they were needed, when they were needed, and because this would allow more control, heroes would both be more effective, but also have way more "time to kill" due to not constantly competing to stay relevant, and thus being able to devote more of their lives to do silly little things like take better care of their families.
That was where i thought the series was heading, and how izuku was going to surpass all might, by being the lynchpin for this new system.
obviously it wouldnt have solved all the problems, but i think few people would argue this kind of ending would have been a worse outcome than what we got.
Regarding the idea that the series would somehow "fix" society forever though, it's something i actually disagree with most of the others who hated the ending.
One of the things that made MHA special, is that unlike One Piece, that far too often had endings that were way too happy, MHA made no bones about the fact that there were no perfect fixes. the world was complicated, people were and would forever be flawed, and there was never going to be any one size fits all solution that would make everything better.
Im glad the ending did not backtrack on that point... But the problem is the fact that it offered NO solutions or improvements as a whole, with Uraraka and Shoji's work being the only real things that seems to have changed the system beyond everyone "Working harder".
also, there is one other point that the series screwed up on, which is how it handled the way it presented the virtues of what "The status quo" actually means.
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MHA's entire first two thirds are about building up to a societal collapse, where law and order break down, where to hero system fails.
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One of the reasons why the LOV are the villains of the piece, and what separates them from the heroes, is their ability to completely dissasociate the fact that they just set into motion events that killed hundreds of thousands of people, while discussing their hopes and dreams, as gigantomachia is killings thousands up people that they are literarily trampling underfoot.
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One of the reasons Dabi is such an amazingly good villain is that he is the only leaguer who just throws any and all justifications for the greater good to the wind when Twice dies, and he commits himself fully to his actual goal, of hurting his dad, and ripping their society to pieces.
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and he does just that in spectacular manner, as using his understanding of how society works, he shifts all blame unto him in the eyes of the public.
chapter 290 is probably MHA's best chapter, and definitly it's best villain chapter as Dabi in one move rips his dad's life and Japan's society to pieces.
But the manga does not in any way try to present him in a positive or even neutral light.
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After all, his amazingly devastating revenge is juxtaposed with images of what ripping down the "Status Quo" actually looks like.
Shattered lives.
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destroyed children.
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lives on a grand scale snuffed out.
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When Shigaraki gives his famous villain and heroes speech, what we are actually shown when he describes "Trash that needs to be coddled" we are shown what that actually means. Innocent children, who's lives have just been ruined, many of them who will now have to live with lifelong trauma.
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and after all is said and done, what was the actual result of "Tearing down the status quo"?
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Fear, hatred, mistrust, and murder. might makes right.
THIS is what always happens when law and order breaks down, and anarchy actually gets to reign.
it has happened countless times throughouth history, be it Japan's Sengoku Jidai, China's warring states periods, the french revolution, the russian revolution, the haiti revolution, the splitting of Alexander's empire, the norwegian civil war period, the era of the princes in ethiophia, the fall of the western roman empire, The Bronze age collapse, and so, so many others.
This is what ALWAYS happens when the "Status Quo" is violently torn down. And MHA for all it's faults does a pretty good job showcasing it.
No the problem is two fold, in how it actually showcases it in a grander context.
It lacks a figure that really calls the villains out on their hypocisy and the aftermath of what their actions have actually lead to.
2. We arent given a real estimate of just how BRUTAL their actions actually were.
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In One piece chapter 543, the main protagonist of the series, Monkey D. Luffy is called out by Hannyabal that his actions in that arc, are, WRONG.
That the prison of Impel Down, that luffy and his gathered band are breaking out of exists to keep the people of the world safe, and to let innocent people live their lives in a "Status Quo" of peace and order, withouth having to fear for their lives from the "Golden age of piracy".
Now the One Piece universe has the caveat that the World Government is so objectively evil, that despite Hannyabal's good intentions here, you could make a solid case that every single one of the pirates in impel down is an objectively lesser evil than the WG.
However, that is not the argument luffy makes, because he is NOT a hero.
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Luffy does not CARE about a debate in right and wrong. While he has his own morals, if the time comes that he has to choose between what he wants, or what others considers good, luffy does not care to debate such issues with them. because he is not a hero. he is a pirate, and he does as he will.
The reason why this scene works so well, is to illustrate the fact that luffy, despite doing a lot of good through the series, is NOT a Hero.
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it's why at the end of this chapter, luffy is put face to face with his main rival, the likely final villain of the series blackbeard.
This is not the story about the rivalry between a good hero and an evil villain. It's the story about two men with the same goals and willingness to step over others that they dont like to reach that goal.
this entire scene and what it represents is all about laying this bare, and to prepare to lead into the fact that luffy's main motivation through most of one piece second half is to assassinate his political rivals.
While they might be objectively evil people, and luffy gets more, and better moral motivation to kill both of them, Luffy's actual motivation to kill kaido and big mom are built upon pure ambition and nothing more.
which is the point about the aforementioned scene in Impel down.
unlike MHA, One piece is NOT a story about good versus evil. it's main themes are freedom, for both good and ill.
MHA however, IS a story about good and evil, and as such is REALLY needed a figure like Hannyabal during the final arc, and objectively good person who called the league as a whole out on all their bullshit.
Because withouth it, it can, as proven by all the people who were confused about the league not getting any redemption, think that MHA is saying the league's actions can, in some way justify their actions, when the entire point of the latter half of the manga is to illustrate just how much it VERY MUCH CANNOT.
The destruction and death is there... but this was really a point where the story would have benefited from being blunt as a sledgehammer about just how evil the villains actually were.
which leads me to point two.
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Hunter X Hunter has a villain group that also tries to rip down society and conquer the world in the form of a faction known as the chimera ants.
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Their leader Meruem is frankly speaking one of the best shonen villains ever, and a REALLY well developed character, where over the course of one arc he becomes a far better and more nuanced person... though he never stops being an actual villain who's death was an objective good for the world.
He does HORRIFIC shit and is ultimately responsible for a lot of the horrible stuff his faction does... and yet his actual goals and death count is probably not THAT different than Shigaraki.
Both of them wanted to destroy the current world order, and both of them were stopped before their rampages could expand beyond one single country.
If this is the case, then why is Shigaraki fans far more upset that he was ultimately killed, than Meruem fans are that he was?
Well the fact shigaraki had a much more sympathetic backstory helps, i would argue there is a much, much bigger reason. Namely the fact that HXH focuses FAR more on the actual destruction and attrocities that Meruem's little takeover actual caused... but it also gave us clear, hard numbers, which makes it WAY clearer that despite everything, Meruem was a TRUE monster.
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During the Ant's invasion they killed about half a million people, 478 594 of which were civilians, and 12 905 who were actual soldiers.
Those numbers are about comparible to what shigaraki probably killed, give or take. half of the heroes of a country with tens of thousands of them were killed, while law and order dissapeared, and gigantomachia smashed his way through a dozen cities in one of the most densly places on the earth.
I think MHA would probably have silenced a LOT of critisim for killing of Shigaraki and the League, if they had actually shown these numbers, and given us an exact number of just how many innocent people the league butchered or were responsible for dying in their war against Hero society.
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nixwriteschaos · 2 years ago
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So I know u already did part 2 which was phenomenal Iike Amazing so just have to to do another final part 3 will be last one I promise I just having so fun making these ideas request cuz jinx is my fav
Takes place where left off bakugou doesn’t die maybe he blocks the attack from hitting him reader bakugou and reader both have battle have monologue about the past bakugou trying to mends his ways of hurting the reader but reader slowly have meltdown attacking agressive letting her rage get her she slowly getting vulnerable state bakugou like maybe hugs her saying heartfelt speech sorry about everything but maybe he notices one the villains tried to stab or shot BAKUGOU without notices but jinx pushes him out the way users her numbs ti defeat villian to save his life but she got extremely hurt and change of heart but is slowly dying bakugou is in shock and cries while holding her
I can imagine reader saying like “I’m always a jinx I guess I deserve this fate
bakugou is just in shocked tries to help the reader saying she could be hero but reader is like it’s too late for me maybe that can could end I know it’s angst but originally I was gonna let reader have redemption but i felt like wouldn’t fit her arc unless u want to change to be somewhat good ending it up to u but this final part I had in mind for idea it doesn’t have to exact this but u can add changes to ur liking u see fit aslo dm me for any questions cuz I love ur blog aslo i Hope this ok Request and that won’t be trouble just jinx is just fav charcter sm
Always a jinx
Bakugou x Fem!Reader
Summary: Bakugou managed to avoid the attack made by Jinx, but will he be able to change her heart?
★☽A/N: WE DOING IT AGAIN!! I honestly love making this, I haven't had this much fun writing something in a long time!! I'm actually considering making a series (With my own BNHA oc) and will be posting it on Wattpad and maybe Tumblr! Enough of this, let's get into it! ENJOY!!!!
Contents: Angst - a few breakdowns - death(?)
Y/N’s quirk: Arcanna (Allows the user to create crystal-like balls that can be used to boost the user’s stats, power up weapons (Like guns), and can be used as explosives when crushed.)
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BANG!!!!!
Wait.. How? Bakugou was still alive..
Bakugou managed to dodge the shot but caused himself to fall down on his side, still tied onto the chair. “Y/N, YOU REALLY NEED HELP!” Bakugou angrily said. “WHY CAN’T YOU JUST– DIE?!” Y/N cried, her face was twisted with anger and sadness. She has been tormented by the memories, almost becoming deaf, almost dying from drowning and from his Quirk, and she hated it. Her breakdown was worse this time. She was yelling, trashing her surroundings while Bakugou tried his best to get out of his restraints. “Why can’t you leave me alone? I hate you! Stop! Shut up!!” She said to herself, her hands gripping her hair hard.
Bakugou managed to get out of the restraints and quickly walked towards Y/N. “Y/N, calm down.” He said in a stern voice, almost demanding. Y/N just looked at him with her E/C eyes that glowed a pink glow. “Leave me ALONE!” She screamed, pushing him away.
“Y/N, listen to me. I know I haven’t been the nicest to you in the past but what I know, I can change. Someone showed me that I could change to be a better person, a better hero. I hate that I couldn’t mend things with you but this is my chance to mend things with you if you let me help you. You can become the hero you always dreamed of with Deku.” Bakugou softly said, extending both his hands out as he walked slowly towards Jinx who was looking at him with widened eyes, her hands fidgeting.
“I don’t need your pity.” She spat with venom. “I’m not pitying you, I’m trying to help you.” Bakugou replied, getting close to her by the second. “I don’t need anyone’s help. I’m hopeless! I’m a freak case! What makes you think you could fix me?!” Jinx asked, her body was in an unstable, angered, and vulnerable state. She was shaking as she heard the voices messing with her head.
By now, Bakugou was standing close to her, looking straight at her but she was standing on her left side, not noticing Bakugou as she held her head in a tight grip. Bakugou felt guilty, how is that possible? He feels no quilty over bullying Deku but he felt the guilt twist his guts when it came to remembering his torment on Jinx. If he wanted to be a hero, he needed to make some changes. His hands reach towards Jinx’s trying to get her attention. But as his hands reached closer, she turned her head to look at him with frightened eyes as she looked at his hands that were reaching for hers.
She couldn’t help but sob more as she pounced on him, crying hysterically. Bakugou was stunned but soon hugged her back, combing her hair to soothe her. “I don’t think I can fix you.. But I can help you.” Was all Katsuki said.
She lifted her head to look him in the eyes. “Do..Do you think I can be a.. Hero too..?” She asked in soft hiccups. Katsuki had a small smile on and nodded, “Yes.” He answered.
Jinx couldn’t help but feel a sense of relief? Of what? Oh… Relieved that she could change paths, that she could follow her dreams instead of following her nightmares. Relieved that she could make new friends, friends with the same goal.
That all faded away when she saw someone behind Katsuki. Toga, and she looked furious. Furious that one of her close friends in the League was hugging a hero course student, the League’s target no less! She grabbed her knife and swung it towards Bakugou’s back. Jinx’s eyes widened and quickly hugged Katsuki tight which shocked him. What shocked him more was when she quickly turned around, swapping their places when she was stabbed by the thrown knife, its very tip grazing her heart.
“Y/N!” He called out. He was furious, blasting Toga away from them. Katsuki didn’t pull the knife out since it was impaled in her and would only cause her to bleed out if he were to take it out. “Why the fuck would you do that?!” He angrily asked. Y/N just smiled. “A hero would do that… Right?” She asked with a smile. Katsuki couldn’t stop the water from pouring out of his eyes. “...Right.” He grinned.
“Shit- I’m always a jinx so I guess I deserve this fate.” She chuckled. Katsuki couldn’t help but tear up a bit. He quickly grabbed her to try to pick her up to bring her to the hospital– But she stopped him. “You won’t be fast enough.” She protested. “I will be fast enough!” Bakugou protested back, picking her up and ran as fast as he could to bring her to the hospital.
Just as they were a mile away from the hospital, someone yelled from a distance. “IT’S NOT OVER YET!” Bakugou didn’t look but he knew it was a member from the LOV. Shigaraki was furious that he lost his little play toy. Using two of his fingers, he grabbed a crystal that was long ago made by Y/N. He smashed it to the ground, inches away from Y/N and Katsuki.
Bakugou managed to blast away before it exploded, creating a hole in the city’s ground but only caused the knife to slip even deeper by the impact. “You’ll make it.” He promised to the girl who had fallen unconscious, running as fast as he could.
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The hospital’s walls were white and clean, the air was fresh, and patients and medical staff crowded the halls and rooms.
In one of the rooms, Katsuki Bakugou held the hands of Y/N L/N who lay unconscious on a hospital bed. He hoped for the best for her.
Slowly, she opened her eyes to the bright light of the hospital room, taking quick glances around the room before her eyes landed on Katsuki’s figure. He felt eyes on him and looked up to see her looking at him. He couldn’t help but show a small smile before hugging her softly.
Jinx was no more… It was just.. Y/N. A soon to be hero.
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★☽A/N: And that’s the finale!! I hope it wasn’t that short. I just want to thank you all for the support that you have given me. I hope to learn how to write better, fix my grammar and update my vocabulary!
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doodlegirl1998 · 2 years ago
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I saw your ask about how you would change MHA and want to add...AFO should be utterly pathetic.
Yes. I love evil mastermind as much the next guy. But AFO is a loser, look he has a powerful quirk and could have taken down the world but he instead figgle his tumbs and pines over Yoichi.
(The final villains should have been Redestro and HC)
Like the man is such loser...if I see any fic where he is a competent villain...I will think is an oc.
But let me ask you this: aside fron how loser AFO is, have you noticed how the world in mha seems to be a dystopia?
Hi @mikeellee 👋,
My issue with AFO is essentially this, he was built up by Hori at the beginning as someone who was meant to be the big bad, intimidating, powerful and a real threat to the heroes.
Yet later in the series he makes some of the most dumbass and infuriating decisions and reactions. I'll give some examples:
Screwing Shiggy's potential as a threatening villain in his own right? - AFO's fault.
AFO getting scared by a first year (Tokoyami and Dark Shadow) and getting strange PTSD off Bakugou? What the fuck was that Hori?!
Staying in Tartarus and waiting for Shig to get him out even though he could bust out at anytime himself? Lazy motherfucker.
Getting tricked by first year's including the UA traitor, who he didn't think to secure the loyalty of somehow? Like I don't know by making Yuuga explode like we just saw him do to Nagant? Yeah AFO didn't think to do that apparently...
I can find pathetic AFO funny and can laugh about it at times however an reflective issue of that on the story is this : If AFO becomes a pathetic villain by extension all the OFA holders 1 - 8 (including All Might become pathetic too.) Because if he is pathetic it shouldn't take 8/9 generations of OFA holders to end him.
As for your next point -
The main villains should be ReDestro and the HPSC. I can see where you're coming from and I think it would be a more interesting story if they were bigger villians. Many themes and ideas would tie organically here
1) ReDestro could have a quirk marriage of his own to carry on and strengthen his / his families legacy. (A good idea you gave to me in our private messages. This would fit his character.)
2) Geten being a Himura would tie in organically here as well as having him parallel Endeavor's lust for power/ attitude.
It would tie more into the world building of MHA and "heroic corruption" that Hori tells us off but never shows (bar Endeavor whose pathetic redemption undermines that anyway.)
And the final point - is MHA as a dystopia?
So a Dystopia is defined as this on Google
'An imagined state or society in which there is great suffering or injustice, typically one that is totalitarian or post-apocalyptic.'
Hmmm. Yes I can see where you are coming from. I would definitely say that Hori wanted to set it up as the heroic industry / society being corrupt and flawed initially and Deku / his peers to be the one to change that before he pivoted hard away from this angle and the systemic issues go ignored.
Quirkless Discrimination? Unexplored / unresolved.
Mutant Discrimination? Barely given the focus it deserved.
HPSC corruption? Destroyed by a ReDestro clone so they're now a non issue except when Hori wants us to feel sympathy for Hawks or Nagant.
Quirk marriages/ corrupt heroes like Endeavor? Well a 'hero' like that could easily happen again because he received no consequence for being an abusive POS or engaging in a quirk marriage. Also the ranking system remains in place so someone else abusive, powerful and equally driven could occur again.
Do you feel how infuriated I am with all this? Why waste this set up like this, Hori?!
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mliter · 2 years ago
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Izuku Midoriya.
"If I can't save the one small girl in front of me, how can I become a hero that saves everyone?"
Initially starting out the series as a timid boy that was bullied, he's grown into what i see as one of the greatest characters to come out of a manga. How did he grow into this? He was given a chance.
Deku's a kid that really likes superheroes. He's super passionate about them. He spends his childhood being a superfan of all might. In a world where so many people have superpowers, he spends his early years with the confidence that he'll be blessed with one too. He later finds out that he's quirkless. No superpowers.
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It's a heartwrenching moment that plays out at the start of his story. You see how his life is being the few without superpowers, but he's still him. By complete chance a villian attacks, and even without superpowers, he jumps in to help his bully. You can tell he has a lot of character at this point. In the story, he goes through a lot.
His design is great. The green jumpsuit coupled with the bright red shoes and big white gloves make for a look that can be picked out of a crowd. His green, fuzzy hair is pretty unique to him as well. I still wonder what that thing around his neck is though.. I forgot. Horikoshi’s unique artstyle and proportions also make him even more unique.
As a character, he’s constantly put down by shonen meatheads because he’s too nice, and expresses emotions other than being pissed at his enemies. He does have a tendency to get really into analyzing his opponent and what theyre doing mid battle. Most find it annoying, but I find it a charming trait of the character. He’s a bit of a Boy Scout. Like superman. He’s part of a wave of anime protagonists that are very kind. Deku’s compassion and humanity are some of his strongest attributes. He really lives to the idea of a hero.
Dare I say? he’s one of the greatest superheroes to appear in the recent years.
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aashi-heartfilia · 2 years ago
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worst things about the lastest chapter of mha is the number of people saying ochako cucked izuku with toga (I don't think these people know what that word means) that the plot to stop the villians by trying to get through to them is pointless cause they are irredeemble (the only irredemeble people are those who refuse to change) or them claiming their opinion of ochako couldn't got lower cause clearly by seeing the pain of that the villians are going through means they don't care about their victims or are rewriting the series to support her view
Yup, that sucks.
One of the reasons I'm not able to post much regarding this chapter is because of all this banter. The arguments mostly goes like this...
Ochako finally confessed her deep love for Deku, now they're gonna get married.
See! See! Ochako finally confessed. Now only Izuku needs to confess and then they'll get married and have a bunch of babies (Ewww)
No!! Ochako is TOGA's wife. She called TOGA cute!
YURI BAIT.
Ochako should have just killed the staby pants. So disappointed!
Deku this, Deku that.
It's always the shipping wars!
It's like no one even wants to pay attention to the actual story and always fight upon shipping wars.
And I agree with most of what you've said. Instead of looking at the bigger picture, these types of people are actively making the community more and more toxic.
Personally, I don't engage with them. It's just a waste of time. So, I just laugh from the sidelines.
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ao3feed-dadzawa · 2 years ago
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A Call for Help
A Call for Help by CalicoLynx, Catlady5001, Withstarryeyes
“Deku, Ingenium's needed on the south side for ground support.”
Izuku presses down on the call button, waving Tenya off as he depresses pegs to update the hero's position. “Copy, Ingenium dispatched. ETA two minutes.”
“Copy.”
Izuku leans back, allowing himself a moment to breathe as he stares at the clear sky. It smells like saltwater on the mild breeze and Izuku can't say he's ever had a more peaceful job during a rescue. He can do this. It's only temporary. Besides, Izuku wants to be, has to be helpful.
He readjusts his headset, double-checks that his monitor is properly arranged, then settles in for a long day of dispatch.
Or...Izuku's on desk duty and it's up to him to aid in missions and ensure the safety of the friends he works with.
Words: 3996, Chapters: 1/1, Language: English
Series: Part 4 of A Friendly Purple Round of Telephone
Fandoms: 僕のヒーローアカデミア | Boku no Hero Academia | My Hero Academia (Anime & Manga)
Rating: General Audiences
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Categories: Gen, Multi
Characters: Midoriya Izuku, Aizawa Shouta | Eraserhead, Yamada Hizashi | Present Mic, Uraraka Ochako, Todoroki Shouto, Iida Tenya, Bakugou Katsuki, Kirishima Eijirou, Kaminari Denki, Class 1-A, Takami Keigo | Hawks, Nishiya Shinji | Kamui Woods, Takeyama Yuu | Mount Lady
Relationships: Class 1-A & Midoriya Izuku, Iida Tenya & Midoriya Izuku, Aizawa Shouta | Eraserhead & Midoriya Izuku, Jirou Kyouka & Midoriya Izuku, Bakugou Katsuki & Midoriya Izuku, Kirishima Eijirou & Midoriya Izuku, Midoriya Izuku/Uraraka Ochako, Midoriya Izuku & Todoroki Shouto, Kaminari Denki & Midoriya Izuku, Aizawa Shouta | Eraserhead/Yamada Hizashi | Present Mic
Additional Tags: Characters Are Pro Heroes, Pro Hero Midoriya Izuku, injured midoriya izuku, Midoriya izuku is on desk duty, dispatch au, Present Mic and Aizawa own a hero agency, Class 1-A Shenanigans, Midoriya Izuku-centric, Hurt Aizawa Shouta | Eraserhead, Hurt Yamada Hizashi | Present Mic, Hurt Bakugou Katsuki, Building Collapse, Fires, Reckless Midoriya Izuku, brief mention of a panic attack, Minor Midoriya Izuku/Uraraka Ochako, Minor Bakugou Katsuki/Kirishima Eijirou, Minor Iida Tenya/Todoroki Shouto, Minor Jirou Kyouka/Yaoyorozu Momo, Class 1-A as Family, Found Family, Villian Raid, Mission Gone Wrong, Bakugou Katsuki Swears A Lot, Canon-Typical Behavior, Discord: No Writing Academia Fic Fight, NWA Fic Fight Team Vigilantes
Read Here: https://archiveofourown.org/works/48608113
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ao3feed-bnha-girls · 2 years ago
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Hero's Can Be Villain's in an Alternate World
Hero's can be villain's in an alternate World by LivStarOP
In a world where things went down differently, heros are villians and villians are hero's
Words: 1280, Chapters: 1/1, Language: English
Series: Part 1 of Villians Can be Hero's in an alternate World
Fandoms: 僕のヒーローアカデミア | Boku no Hero Academia | My Hero Academia (Anime & Manga)
Rating: Not Rated
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Characters: Himiko Toga, Shigaraki Tomura | Shimura Tenko, Toya (Critical Role), Dabi | Todoroki Touya, Bubaigawara Jin | Twice, Midoriya Izuku, Uraraka Ochako, Todoroki Shouto, Bakugou Katsuki, Sensei | All For One, Yagi Toshinori | All Might, Akaguro Chizome | Stain
Additional Tags: villian deku, Villian All Might, Hero Toga, Hero Dabi, Hero Shigaraki
Read Here: https://archiveofourown.org/works/48412195
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ao3feed-izuku-midoriya · 2 years ago
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Wanna work a nightshift?
Wanna work a nightshift? by Villian Deku but not really
How did one of the kids of Aizawas class get turned into animatronics? He just wants to talk to the person he swears
Words: 1021, Chapters: 1/?, Language: English
Series: Part 1 of The chaos of crossovers
Fandoms: 僕のヒーローアカデミア | Boku no Hero Academia | My Hero Academia (Anime & Manga), Five Nights at Freddy's
Rating: Not Rated
Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings
Characters: Aizawa Shouta | Eraserhead, Midoriya Izuku, Maijima Higari | Power Loader, Yamada Hizashi | Present Mic
Relationships: Aizawa Shouta | Eraserhead/Yamada Hizashi | Present Mic, Aizawa Shouta | Eraserhead & Midoriya Izuku
Additional Tags: Parental Yamada Hizashi | Present Mic, Parental Aizawa Shouta | Eraserhead | Dadzawa, Midoriya Izuku Needs A Hug, Izuku turned into a animatronic, he can't turn back
Read Here: https://archiveofourown.org/works/47647831
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generouskittensong · 16 days ago
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unlike many other things that were hella retconned like
- itachi not being a villian
- the rinnegan is -> uchihas can achieve
- the whole reborn bullshit
- past lives nonsense
Minato being Narutos father was Kishis plan from the get-go. I wouldn't say it was a mistake or that this is a mistake. It does make sense unlike all the other bullshit Kishimoto retconned because he had no clue what to do with his story because he never had a plan.
Sasuke doing revolution was never something he wanted to do. He probably doesn't even know how to do it. He just put it there for the sake of.. well.. to put it there..
Sasuke was always set up to fail because it's a shounen. Kishi wasted all characters for nothing. I don't even think he is proud of his story and wants it to vanish.
No wonder why he distanced himself from that garbage called boruto and tries for the 2nd time to make a new manga to overshadow Naruto.. that's how much he hates it.
Look at other Mangakas, especially BNHA Horikoshi.
He loves his story, his (only) canon couple (thank God he wasn't money hungry like Kishimoto who made a new generation for milking purposes) Horikoshi was probably told the same to do it because if there is a series where they have enough characters and shippers, it's my hero academia and he said NO! and only made Deku x Ochako which was hinted on from the moment we saw them first together.
He still draws artworks of his characters unlike Kishimoto who despises all of them. That's the difference of an author who actually knows what he wants and one who has no clue what he was doing.
Kishimoto got only lucky because back then television was a thing and Naruto was aired in the west and hyped more than One Piece.
Otherwise nobody cared for Naruto. In Japan Naruto was never popular like other Mangas. That's why Naruto was forced to end in 2014.
The sales were so bad, that they wanted to axe Naruto. I remember when the message was out, that only 3 months left and Naruto will end.
Even Kishimoto was surprised by that.. Ok his father died at the start of 2014 so he probably completely lost all his interest in that story. but still.. Naruto didn't brought them much money like they hoped for. But they thought to make a new generation and Naruto will be around much longer. It worked.. somehow but then then we saw how miserable all couples are.. don't get me started on SS and Gaiden. Then the whole Boruto rubbish.
Narutos worth is now 10 billionen. Ofc they want to milk out everything they can before they get rid of it but.. nobody wants boruto. Everyone hates it. Ikemotes wish to make boruto as popular as naruto will always stay a fantasy of his..
As a talented author I would have said. I want to take on Kishimotos mission and surpass One Piece. But nah... bro wants not even to surpas Naruto but only gain the same status as Naruto. That shows what kind of untalented author Ikemoto is.. and don't get me start on his drawing skills. that guy was Kishis assistant for fucking 15 years.
Why Making Minato Naruto's Father Was the Worst Mistake Made in Naruto — pt. 1: Neji
Making Minato Naruto's dad was the worst decision Kishimoto could have made. I have a lot to say about it. My main reason is that by making Minato his dad, it set Naruto on course to becoming the "Child of Prophecy." The reincarnation of Ashura, the son of the Sage of Six Paths, and Hashirama, the first and most powerful Hokage. That absolutely ruined the initial premise of the story. The initial Naruto fought against the system. He was the underdog. He challenged the sastus quo. He was going to beat the odds and become Hokage despite his past. Making him the Child of Prophecy in Shippuden changed the course of the series and retroactively made the initial series' message essentially null and void.
Because I have a lot to say, let's take a look at Neji, for instance, as I believe this is one of the more significant instances:
He's initially seen in a negative light. When you watch Naruto for the first time, you don't know the storyline fully, so you're led to believe Neji is some angry character who hates his family and takes it out by beating his cousin so badly that she starts to go into ventricular fibrillation.
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The viewer is made to dislike his character. Then you see his fight with Naruto, and you learn about Neji’s backstory. The interpretation of his backstory is up to personal discretion; the viewer is allowed to feel however they want about it. I was around eleven when I watched the fight. Because I was a child, I didn't put too much thought into the broader implications of his story, and just took everything at face value. I didn't think critically about the series in any aspect. I think that’s how most people tend to see this storyline.
If the viewer doesn't know the rest of the story—or if they don’t look deeper into the nuances of Neji’s storyline—they might see Neji as a character who's angry and violent.
However, when you look at this story through a more critical lens, you see a different picture. He's angry, yes, about the untimely and unjust death of his father. We see glimpses into the past of the Hyuga clan. How Neji was branded with the curse mark on Hinata's third birthday, how Hizashi harbored anger towards the main family—his own twin brother and his niece—because of circumstances out of his control.
And then Neji, his four-year-old son, witnessed his uncle—his father's twin brother—use the curse mark's intended ability (you know, to keep the cadet branch in line) to DESTROY HIS BRAIN CELLS because he sensed Hizashi’s anger. They claim that the curse mark was so the Byakugan would be sealed away after death, and that was the reason for it, but let's not pretend that that was the whole truth.
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There may have been some truth to that initially, but if they wanted to protect the secret of their kekkei genkai, why not put the seal on everyone? Hm? Or is it just a way to force the cadet branch (I know the more common way of referring to them is the 'branch family', but for consistency with the official manga translation, I'll use 'cadet branch' and 'main branch') into serfdom?
When they killed Hizashi to hand over his body to Kumogakure, it was because he "chose to die to protect his family", right? But look at it this way—what other choice did he have? Hizashi saw death as the only way to escape fate; to be free of his destiny as a member of the cadet branch.
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Can you imagine what that must have been like for Neji? Because it’s Neji telling the story, we know that he knows why his father was killed. It’s never made clear when he learned of the reason for his father’s death, but if he’s telling Naruto this at age thirteen, and we know through what we’ve seen in his anger (seemingly long-standing, at that), all this to say—he knew from a young age that Hizashi’s body was given to Kumogakure. He knew they wanted the Byakugan. He knew they were going to desecrate his father’s body and remove his eyes. How would that make anyone feel? To not only have your father offered up as a sacrifice in his brother’s place, but to then further know that not only would you not have his body to give a proper burial but to know that his corpse was going to be mutilated and most likely dumped or burned like he had no significance? Does anyone think about that? Because I do.
Also, why was neither Hinata nor Hanabi branded? Hinata was the first-born; shouldn't that mean Hanabi would have been branded? Even if they made the decision to train Hanabi to see if she'd make a better head-of-house, and determined she was the better option, why wasn't Hinata then branded as well? Hizashi was born into the main family, too. But he was branded because he was the second born. A bit hypocritical, hm?
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Regardless, Neji had every right to be angry. Naruto pointed this out during their fight, and I think it largely goes overlooked. While angry and touting the whole 'destiny' angle, Neji was fighting against it all along. In volume 12, chapter 103, page 73, Naruto says to Neji, "The cadet branch is supposed to protect the main branch, but you used the exam as an excuse to beat up Hinata... It sure seems like you were trying to defy your fate, too!" Ignorance about the cadet branch 'protecting' the main branch aside, his point is valid.
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Even if Neji didn't realize it, he, too, was fighting against the unjust system of 'destiny' that was instilled as a result of the treatment of the cadet branch. Pushing forward, in volume 12, chapter 103, page 79; Neji asks Naruto, "Can I ask you something? Why do you keep trying so hard to defy your destiny?!" And then Naruto's line we know all too well, "Because somebody told me...I was a failure!"
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This ties back in with the initial premise of the series. Naruto’s the underdog. He was a ‘failure.’ In chapter 104, page 94, as Naruto charges towards Neji after using the Nine tail’s chakra, Neji’s words echo in his mind. “…you want to be Hokage, huh?” “I don’t think that’s gonna happen.” “Only a select few are even considered for Hokage.” “Wake up and face reality!” “Those who will become Hokage are born with that fate. You can’t get there by trying… you have to be pre-selected.” “Each person’s life consists of being swept along in the inescapable current of his destiny…” Those last two will be important later. On the very next page, Naruto tells Neji, “Look, I may not understand the tragic destiny of the Hyuga clan or whatever, but… If you think it’s inescapable, fine! Then stop fighting it already!!” “When I become Hokage…I’ll change the Hyuga clan!”
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Even after all of this, even after having seen Naruto’s chakra seep through after his tenketsu were blocked, even after Naruto tried to understand his circumstances, Neji’s anger did not dissipate. On page 101, after crawling back out of the crater he’d been thrown into, he still walks up to ‘Naruto’ and says, “…sorry, failure…it’s too bad, but…this is reality.”
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It’s only when Naruto comes up out of the ground and uppercuts him in chapter 104, page 105, and subsequently lectures him, “I failed the academy graduation three times… because, unlucky for me, the exam always tested the same ninjutsu…my absolute weakest ninjutsu. And my weakest ninjutsu…was the bunshin no jutsu…the art of the doppelganger. So shut up about ‘destiny’ and ‘inescapable fate’ …you shouldn’t whine about such trivial stuff! ‘Cause…unlike me…you’re not a ‘failure.’” It's only then that Neji begins to see things differently.
Though, the fact that he begins to see things differently, to me, is a case of cognitive dissonance. That'll be a different post though.
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ao3feed-izch · 2 years ago
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A Call for Help
by CalicoLynx, Catlady5001, Withstarryeyes
“Deku, Ingenium’s needed on the south side for ground support.”
Izuku presses down on the call button, waving Tenya off as he depresses pegs to update the hero’s position. “Copy, Ingenium dispatched. ETA two minutes.”
“Copy.”
Izuku leans back, allowing himself a moment to breathe as he stares at the clear sky. It smells like saltwater on the mild breeze and Izuku can’t say he’s ever had a more peaceful job during a rescue. He can do this. It’s only temporary. Besides, Izuku wants to be, has to be helpful.
He readjusts his headset, double-checks that his monitor is properly arranged, then settles in for a long day of dispatch.
Or...Izuku's on desk duty and it's up to him to aid in missions and ensure the safety of the friends he works with.
Words: 3996, Chapters: 1/1, Language: English
Series: Part 4 of A Friendly Purple Round of Telephone
Fandoms: 僕のヒーローアカデミア | Boku no Hero Academia | My Hero Academia (Anime & Manga)
Rating: General Audiences
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Categories: Gen, Multi
Characters: Midoriya Izuku, Aizawa Shouta | Eraserhead, Yamada Hizashi | Present Mic, Uraraka Ochako, Todoroki Shouto, Iida Tenya, Bakugou Katsuki, Kirishima Eijirou, Kaminari Denki, Class 1-A (My Hero Academia), Takami Keigo | Hawks, Nishiya Shinji | Kamui Woods, Takeyama Yuu | Mount Lady
Relationships: Class 1-A & Midoriya Izuku, Iida Tenya & Midoriya Izuku, Aizawa Shouta | Eraserhead & Midoriya Izuku, Jirou Kyouka & Midoriya Izuku, Bakugou Katsuki & Midoriya Izuku, Kirishima Eijirou & Midoriya Izuku, Midoriya Izuku/Uraraka Ochako, Midoriya Izuku & Todoroki Shouto, Kaminari Denki & Midoriya Izuku, Aizawa Shouta | Eraserhead/Yamada Hizashi | Present Mic
Additional Tags: Characters Are Pro Heroes (My Hero Academia), Pro Hero Midoriya Izuku, injured midoriya izuku, Midoriya izuku is on desk duty, dispatch au, Present Mic and Aizawa own a hero agency, Class 1-A Shenanigans (My Hero Academia), Midoriya Izuku-centric, Hurt Aizawa Shouta | Eraserhead, Hurt Yamada Hizashi | Present Mic, Hurt Bakugou Katsuki, Building Collapse, Fires, Reckless Midoriya Izuku, brief mention of a panic attack, Minor Midoriya Izuku/Uraraka Ochako, Minor Bakugou Katsuki/Kirishima Eijirou, Minor Iida Tenya/Todoroki Shouto, Minor Jirou Kyouka/Yaoyorozu Momo, Class 1-A as Family (My Hero Academia), Found Family, Villian Raid, Mission Gone Wrong, Bakugou Katsuki Swears A Lot, Canon-Typical Behavior, Discord: No Writing Academia Fic Fight (My Hero Academia), NWA Fic Fight Team Vigilantes
source https://archiveofourown.org/works/48608113
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gemgdynamight · 4 years ago
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WAIT A MINUTE I HAD A BRAINFART. What if...Hisashi is the mass murderer? But Deku looks just like his dad so he gets confused for him??
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drawingtr · 6 years ago
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Villain!Fantasy!Deku - Ready as I’ll ever be
Yeah, want to see more?
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tardigradetheking · 2 years ago
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I honestly find any villianizing of the villains hard to swallow, because in my opinion right after my villian academia all lot of characters stopped being characters and started being a series of actions to progress the plot
Why does Hawks still stand endeavor
Why didnt all might warn "dark" deku about burn out
Why did the villains who had just been humanized to high heaven suddenly start acting cartoonishly evil.
That being said I agree that horis writing has inconsistent and nonsensical themes.
I suppose your right about the hidden gem of goodness thing too
Hori is about to drive me insane with the dumb way he describes some of his villains 😭😭
You thought Naruto's "Obito was a really cool guy!" was bad? wait until you hear this:
"Twice was a really great guy"
"Toga has universal love for everyone"
Folks, are you at peak moral purity when you're a terrorist/serial killer and you remorselessly justify your evil actions because of your nasty victim-complex and entitlement? 💀💀💀
I can't believe I'm gonna quote bojack horseman; but this was facts:
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It doesn't matter how much ���hidden goodness🌟 the villains have deep, deep in their hearts. It doesn't fucking matter. Not when they are constantly choosing to dehumanize and terrorize and murder innocent people.
That's like saying Enji - pre redemption - was a really good guy despite being an abuser because he had hidden goodness inside his heart 🤪
All human beings have hidden goodness inside their hearts, anyway. Bad people are not bad because they lack goodness, but because they refuse to act on their goodness.
And what kind of message is that? Villains don't deserve to be helped unless the heroes can detect some hidden goodness inside them? Is that why Overhaul and Mascular and many, many other villains were thrown in prison without any hero risking their lives to reason with them and offer them compassion and understanding? 🤨
I don't think that was Hori's intention, but it's inevitable to reach this conclusion because the writing of this particular theme is so inconsistent and nonsensical.
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