#villainess isekai manga
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princessbakarina · 10 months ago
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seeing 'new' female isekai-ed characters like katarina, yumiella, aileen and etc get dunked on online by twitter and reddit is so disheartening. dudebros making fun of them for being dumb, dense and idiotic when the male isekaied characters that they like are blander than white bread yet the most gorgeous women still fall on their feet for them. yeah so realistic. sure katarina and co aren't perfect characters but at least they have flaws and faults unlike their op conqueror bland ass printer paper looking male mcs. let women enjoy their female fantasies without being needlessly mocked by men who aren't even the target demographic. give me a break and a gun
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murasaki-cha · 10 months ago
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I gotta say, one iconic thing about Rishe (7th Time Loop) is that during the first meeting with Arnold, in this life, she went "Oh my god that's Arnold Hein, the ruthless emperor from my past lives that took over the continent and started war after war, the man who killed me in my last life by plunging a sword in my chest........ damn he's still hot"
Speak your truth sister!
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asteriass · 8 months ago
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The progression of the “Villainess” trope
Y'know, thinking about it, it's very ironic how a trope made to subvert one's expectations & give more depth to 1 dimensional villains in cliche novels by "humanizing" them more & providing their side of the story, eventually became oversaturated with cartoony villains & flat MCs. Thus, completely failing in its goal to "subvert expectations" as it too turned into mind numbing cliche, becoming the exact opposite of what the troupe initially aimed to achieved.
I am talking about "Villainess" series.
I remember seeing a twitter post a while back saying how a lot of the villainess stuff the authors & studios are putting out nowadays lack any sort of nuance when it comes to its characters. And how a lot authors simply switch the roles of the cast (Like: OG MC -> villain | OG villain -> MC) & call it a day. And I 100% agree with that.
This troupe kinda ended up becoming the dictionary definition of the saying, "You either die as a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become a villain” lmao
What could've been an opportunity to write nuanced villains & morally ambiguous main characters, turned EXACTLY into the cliche it was pocking fun at.
In an attempt to reveal how the MCs of your typical cliche novels can also be in the wrong at times, flaws that the story & its (in-canon) fandom may purposefully ignore, the villainess stories ended up doing EXACT SAME thing EXECPT this time it's the "villains" doing it rather than the OG FL or OG ML of the “OG novel”. In an attempt to stop cliche villains from remaining cliche, while we did ended up getting slightly more nuance for the “OG villain” characters, in the process, the OG MCs turned exactly into those flat cliche villains.
Alot of villainess series poke fun at the troupes they themself use, but not in a satirical way.
So many villainess series poke fun at the OG novels for being problematic or stupid & the fandom of said novels basically ignoring its flaws & problems, only gushing over the OG FL. Which yea, is nice & all, but y'know... that's exactly what those villainess series do too. SO MANYY of them borderline have the FLs participating in literal slavery. & More often than not have a borderline colonizer ML. Not to mention the numerous which carry weird undertones of colorism, and many such other things. All the while, the fandom of these villainess series continue to ignore their glaring problems & flaws & instead just gush over the FL and ML.
And I'm not even saying this in a hating sort of way (well, aside from the series with issues of colorism, orientalism, etc). Moreover, this is all not to say that one can not enjoy such stories, because admittedly, there is indeed fun in just reading a simple and familiar story line. But this is all more me being intrigued by this trope’s almost ironic progression as companies rush their staff to produce something which they think will be able to ride the waves of the current trends, only for the vast majority to simply drown in a sea of mediocrity (with many even being canceled due to this)
[Though I mean, something as simple as villainess tropes won’t be the only one to go through this. Like a lot of Shakespearean works, a subversion of the classics & typical troupes back then, got turned into ones of those classics and by many are now considered cliche. And that's just scrapping the bottom of the barrel!]
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cheesecakethots · 5 months ago
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how it feels to enjoy a trope that everyone unanimously agrees is bad
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fandomcentralsstuff · 3 months ago
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This was so funny Isaac the realest one ever😭😭😭😭
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notsobeautifuldisaester · 6 months ago
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No one expects 100% accuracy but I want people to know
No, there aren't any bad end event for a villainess and there's no bullying call-out event
No, Otome having dark themes isn't an exception. Otomes are stories after all
No, Otome doesn't equal reverse harem (they can overlap but they're not the same)
No, Otomes aren't a matriarchy where every man save for the bishies are oppressed
No, Otomes isn't giving women unrealistic standards for men
No, Otomes aren't games to find a perfect prince on a white horse
No, dating sims and romance vns aren't interchangeable. They do have difference
No, All Yumejins aren't evil rabid bitches that want to off anyone who gets in the way in their husbandos
No, making the heroine evil for no reason isn't a refreshing twist
No, "For an otome" isn't a compliment
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violetlunette · 2 months ago
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So, I just reading an old Shoujo called "Angelique" and I realized that Sebek has all the traits of an old school shoujo rivals. The ones who act haughty and antagonistic but are actually tsunderes with hearts of gold. Just make his dad a duke and give him drills and he'd fit.
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dvasva · 2 months ago
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sometimes i think i have a coherent thought about how in transmigration/isekai stories written by men the protagonist imposes themselves upon the world without caring much about social convention while in transmigration/isekai stuff written by women the protagonist tries their hardest to fit in and not draw unnecessary attention or do something out of character or weird, especially in danmei transmigration stuff....
and then i see shibuya yuuri harajuku furi in my peripheral squaring up against everyone and making baseball the national sport. the most shonen protagonist trapped in a bl harem.
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zmeyel · 11 months ago
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The popularity of all of the "reincarnated otome game villainess seeks revenge on the capture targets" series just shows what the people truly want is the Count of Monte Cristo.
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manga-miscellany · 2 months ago
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danshive · 2 months ago
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Ooh, a new Otome Villainess Isekai anime to watch with dinner!
(Soon) Excuse me, waiter? These love interests appear to be four-to-five years older than the protagonist? I daresay, the fork?
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shoujo-dump · 9 months ago
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Akuyaku Reijou Level 99: Watashi wa UraBoss desu ga Maou de wa Arimasen
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mizuki-nikki · 9 months ago
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"don't die penelope. don't leave me in this HELL.
i'll do anything for you.
if you want to get out of here, i'll get you out of here. i will give you LOVE or whatever you wish. i'll do everything you want.
don't die."
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ladies and gentlemen, our favorite male lead, callisto regulus 🤍✨
( i seriously cant wait to see those sentences being executed in the manhwa. who wouldn't fall for u callisto??!)
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deus-ex-mona · 2 months ago
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if the trope works, it ✨works✨ y’know~
#(aka chizuchan manga ch5 is coming out in 18 1/2 hours and im too excited to sleeeeep)#(s o im reading rofan isekai manhwa as a bedtime story☆ but the story is too interesting to lull me to sleep☆ ✨sad times✨)#still thinking about this rofan webnovel i binged over the weekend with a dynamic like this^#the dude pined for over a hundred chapters before going from 0-100 the moment they were in an enclosed space together it was so funny#the fact that his interest in her started bc she gave him tips on tax evasion was iconic tbhhh#m a n i cant forget that dumb biscotti boi no matter what i do… that novel was pretty good and it had reasons™️ for why the fl was so op…#thinking about them and their hilarious dynamic again kinda makes me want to see lxl in a rofan setting tbh#they’d have the pettiest of arguments esp in a ‘formal’ nobles setting#i d o kinda have a draft/stuff for a lxl villainess isekai au fic… but i think it’d be too sad if they dont un-isekai themselves back#so i havent done much with it… hm. maybe some day…#b u t on another note fanart of meoto rofan aus are always fun to see#their costumes are so complex yet the artists always draw them so beautifully… thank you for the food lxl twt#but… demon x human sacrifice is. lowkey. kinda… beauty & the beast-esque… right…?#except for how demon!aizo prolly wasnt cursed into demonhood. but. still.#oh well… maybe that’s enough rofan lxl thoughts for one day… see y’all when chizuchan ch5 drops later~~~~~~
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murasaki-cha · 10 months ago
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Arnold you jealous little shi-
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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mimiszz · 10 months ago
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